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this breaking news an hour before I came00:00:01
on a that Benjamin Netanyahu has00:00:03
categorically dismissed hamas's new00:00:05
calls for a prolonged ceasefire in Gaza00:00:08
pledging to forge a ha with Israel's00:00:09
military campaign until securing what he00:00:11
terms as total Victory Netanyahu pledged00:00:14
to destroy Hamas and ruled out any00:00:16
Arrangement that leaves a Palestinian00:00:17
militant group in full or partial00:00:19
control of Gaza I would like to00:00:22
emphasize once again there is no other00:00:25
solution other than this complete and00:00:28
decisive victory because otherwise it is00:00:31
just a matter of time till the next00:00:34
Massacre and the access of Terror from00:00:37
Iran will continue so only by destroying00:00:41
Hamas will we have security for the00:00:43
state of Israel in the north and in the00:00:46
South because Hamas would like to00:00:49
radiate its Terror all over the Middle00:00:53
East what J to discuss this is the00:00:56
Israeli American journalist Trader the00:00:58
Israeli American activist and author mik00:01:01
pelled and the Palestinian commentator00:01:03
Omar bad well welcome to all of you um00:01:06
start with you Emily uh a lot of people00:01:09
around the world imploring Israel to00:01:13
have some kind of ceasefire not least to00:01:15
get the hostages are but also to stop00:01:17
the Relentless killing of uh innocent00:01:20
Palestinians women children and so on00:01:23
but Netanyahu absolutely adamant uh00:01:26
tonight no deal no ceasefire we will go00:01:30
on until Hamas are completely finished00:01:33
what is your reaction to00:01:35
this well first of all thanks for having00:01:37
me on this important topic tonight I00:01:38
think the way that even the sentiment00:01:40
was phrased that it's Israel rejecting00:01:43
ceasefire isn't quite accurate you know00:01:45
when it comes to what the situation is00:01:47
on the ground Israel has been willing to00:01:49
accept multiple ceasefires in the past00:01:51
as well as they have done temporary00:01:53
pauses in fighting um the reality is00:01:56
that we had a ceasefire on October 6th00:01:58
it wasn't Israel who started this war00:02:00
um but it is Israel who will finish it00:02:02
and you cannot invade The Sovereign00:02:04
borders we're not even talking about00:02:05
disputed territory we're not talking00:02:06
about the West Bank but the Sovereign00:02:08
borders of the state of Israel rape00:02:11
murder and maim innocent people and then00:02:13
kidnap over 200 more and expect that you00:02:16
can dictate the terms of your own00:02:19
Survival and staying in power in the00:02:21
Gaza Strip This is just not the way it00:02:23
works and Israel would actually be in00:02:25
violation of international law for doing00:02:27
so because Israel as a state Act has an00:02:30
obligation legally to restore a sense of00:02:33
security to the citizens of the state of00:02:35
Israel and unfortunately that cannot be00:02:37
done until Hamas is removed from power00:02:39
in the Gaza Strip well mik I can see you00:02:42
laughing there incredulously before you00:02:45
respond to that I just want to inform00:02:48
viewers about what the Hamas proposed00:02:50
deal was as seen by the Reuters news00:02:53
agency phase one a 45-day pause in00:02:56
fighting during which all Israeli women00:02:59
hostages is males under 19 the elderly00:03:02
and sick would be exchanged for00:03:03
Palestinian women and children held in00:03:05
Israeli jails Israeli forces would00:03:08
withdraw from populated areas of Gaza00:03:11
and the Reconstruction of hospitals and00:03:12
refugee camps would begin phase two00:03:15
remaining male Israeli hostages would be00:03:17
exchanged for Palestinian prisoners and00:03:19
Israeli forces would leave Gaza00:03:21
completely phase three both sides would00:03:24
exchange remains and bodies and Hamas is00:03:26
also calling for the complete withdrawal00:03:29
of Israeli forces from Gaza going00:03:32
forward um your response to Netanyahu00:03:35
saying No00:03:41
Deal oh mik M I'm sorry I think you're00:03:45
muting you're on mute at the moment if00:03:47
you wouldn't mind just unmuting yourself00:03:50
yes you're back well it seem it seems00:03:52
certainly that the Hamas proposal is00:03:53
reasonable that Nano being a genocidal00:03:55
Maniac who wants to continue the killing00:03:57
and the Bloodshed is not interested I00:03:59
mean I think we've seen that the last00:04:01
several months of of of his policies in00:04:04
Gaza have led to what can only be00:04:06
described as mass genocide and since the00:04:09
entire world is standing with him and00:04:11
he's not seeing any he's not facing any00:04:13
consequences seriously there's no reason00:04:15
for him to stop and so the question is00:04:17
will the International Community step in00:04:19
and force him to stop the killing force00:04:22
him to accept the Hamas or the the00:04:25
Palestinian proposals uh and will the00:04:27
International Community stand by the00:04:29
Palestinians who are now like I said00:04:32
presented uh the world and presented00:04:34
Israel with a very reasonable um a very00:04:36
reasonable proposal for ceasefire having00:04:38
said that I think the ceasefire is00:04:40
nowhere nearly enough I think I I think00:04:42
the entire International Community needs00:04:44
to come in and and declare a no fly zone00:04:46
over Gaza and and impose severe00:04:48
sanctions against the state of Israel00:04:50
particularly now since it's obvious that00:04:52
he's the is the state of Israel is00:04:53
refusing even a very reasonable proposal00:04:57
by uh by the Palestinians by the00:04:59
Palestinian representatives in in the00:05:00
Gaza Strip so it seems very very clear00:05:03
the only question is why is the00:05:04
International Community not standing00:05:05
with the Palestinians and not helping00:05:07
the Palestinians to enforce at least00:05:10
this very reasonable um proposal okay00:05:13
but to play devil's advocate here00:05:16
Israel's position is that Hamas00:05:18
committed an appalling terror attack on00:05:20
October the 7th killing over 1,20000:05:23
people uh many of whom were innocent00:05:25
women and children butchered in the most00:05:27
Savage Manner and they have publicly00:05:29
stated since then Hamas that they will00:05:31
do the same thing again and again and00:05:33
again if they're able to and at the00:05:36
moment depending on which figures you00:05:38
you look at at least half the Hamas00:05:41
fighting force is still there and still00:05:44
fighting um representing to Israelis an00:05:49
existential threat to their very00:05:50
existence so why should Netanyahu in00:05:54
that circumstance allow half of Hamas to00:05:58
continue to exist and and present that00:06:00
threat to his00:06:01
people well the question is why why00:06:04
we're accepting the the Israeli premise00:06:05
to this Israel has been engaged in00:06:07
genocide and apartheid policies for 7500:06:10
years Palestinians have been living00:06:12
under a reign of terror particularly in00:06:14
the Gaza Strip this is not the first00:06:16
time that Israel massacred civilians by00:06:18
the thousands in the Gaza Strip so why00:06:20
Palestinians are resisting and why00:06:22
Palestinian Fighters came out of Gaza on00:06:24
October 7th and and and engaged in00:06:26
resistance is not the question there not00:06:28
resistance is it was what is what is00:06:31
resistance about raping and murdering00:06:33
and kidnapping innocent00:06:34
civilian hyoc00:06:37
murdering murdering children on the00:06:39
street right to talk about killing00:06:42
children Israel has no right to talk00:06:45
about in the first place Israel do you00:06:48
believe that Israel has a right to exist00:06:50
in the first Israel has been massacring00:06:52
children you00:06:54
believe hang on let me to talk about the00:06:58
let me interrupt00:07:00
what to let me inter let me interrupt00:07:03
because CH pleas with respect Mr pet let00:07:07
me interrupt to say one member of the00:07:09
panel hasn't spoken yet and has kept00:07:11
very quiet respectfully during that uh00:07:14
exchange between the two of you Omar00:07:16
badan this this cuts to the quick of the00:07:19
story really if you view what Hamas did00:07:21
on October the 7th as simply00:07:24
resistance then to me you are ignoring00:07:27
the reality that it was an paing terror00:07:30
attack you can have absolutely00:07:32
legitimate concerns about the scale of00:07:34
Israel's response I have them myself but00:07:36
do you genuinely also believe that it00:07:39
was resistance what happened that day00:07:42
I'll I'll get to that in a minute but I00:07:43
do have to respond first to the Gaul of00:07:47
somebody invoking the killing of00:07:48
children in light of Israel having00:07:50
killed nearly 12,000 pal Palestinian00:07:53
children buried under the rubble over00:07:54
the past three months in a genocidal00:07:56
scale in violence against against00:07:58
defenseless children it's it's is00:07:59
utterly and completely absurd and the00:08:01
second and equally important point to00:08:03
make is that anybody who tells you that00:08:04
there was a ceasefire on October 6th was00:08:06
lying to you on October 6 Palestinians00:08:09
had no Freedom whatsoever throughout the00:08:11
Gaza Strip they could not go in and out00:08:13
of Gaza no airport no sea port no jobs00:08:16
no access to the outside world no00:08:17
functioning electricity and Israel00:08:20
continued to steal Palestinian land in00:08:21
the West Bank throughout that entire00:08:23
year and for decades frankly even before00:08:26
that and had killed nearly 25000:08:29
Palestinians in the course of just the00:08:31
beginning of the year until October 6th00:08:33
so people who call that a ceasefire are00:08:35
basically telling you to accept a status00:08:37
quo in which Palestinians can be00:08:39
murdered they can have their children00:08:41
thrown in military detention00:08:42
indefinitely in which Palestinian land00:08:44
can be taken away from them at will and00:08:46
they can be denied freedom and that's an00:08:48
acceptable status quo so long as00:08:50
Israelis are safe there's a word for00:08:52
that kind of world and that's called00:08:54
apartheid that is the current status quo00:08:56
that always existed leading up to the00:08:58
violence that we saw on October 7th now00:09:01
certainly anytime that you engage in00:09:03
violence against civilians that is00:09:04
completely indefensible and there's no00:09:06
way to excuse that nonetheless thinking00:09:08
people look at the situation that led up00:09:10
to it and understand that imprisoning00:09:13
Palestinians by the Millions for no00:09:15
crime other than being Palestinian in00:09:17
Gaza and allowing and denying them00:09:19
access to the outside world uh is00:09:21
essentially a recipe to create a wave of00:09:24
violence that is effectively inevitable00:09:26
people who are serious about wanting to00:09:28
end violence and serious about producing00:09:31
a situation in which there is peace for00:09:33
both Israelis and Palestinians have to00:09:35
be concerned about the driving force of00:09:37
that violence and the driving force is00:09:39
absolutely Israeli apartheid that has00:09:40
denied Palestinians freedom for too long00:09:43
and until you solve that underlying00:09:44
problem you're never going to get into a00:09:46
situation in which there is any safety00:09:48
or security for any you know you00:09:49
continue you continue using all these00:09:51
buzzwords aarth genocide and those00:09:53
aren't what those words actually mean00:09:55
but I do want to clarify a few things00:09:57
that you commented on and the00:10:02
I shouldn't be speaking about killing00:10:04
children there is a massive difference00:10:06
between a defensive War targeting00:10:08
terrorist targets that are using00:10:10
civilian fights including un schools00:10:13
including hospitals in dangering their00:10:15
own people in the Gaza Strip something00:10:17
that they themselves have admitted and00:10:21
the invading of The Sovereign borders of00:10:23
a foreign country and murdering children00:10:25
in their home on let me ask00:10:29
not a defensive00:10:34
War over00:10:36
other let me ask Emily a question and00:10:39
it's this Emily look I think Israel had00:10:42
a right to defend itself a duty to00:10:44
defend itself but we now have as we've00:10:47
heard I think it's 12,000 children00:10:49
believed to have been killed uh another00:10:51
20,000 or so have been orphaned uh00:10:54
2third of Gaza has been flattened and00:10:57
here Benjamin Netanyahu says after four00:10:59
months well we're nowhere near finished00:11:01
there's months more of this we will00:11:02
continue until the last Hamas terrorist00:11:05
is gone okay but that may mean the00:11:07
entire Gaza Strip is gone destroyed00:11:10
flattened it may mean well hang on it00:11:12
may mean the number of children killed00:11:15
doubles to 20,000 maybe 30,000 at what00:11:18
point does this become even to people00:11:21
who support Israel imp placa about this00:11:23
does it become just utterly00:11:27
disproportionate well I think00:11:29
proportionality isn't the actual00:11:30
question here there's a very easy way to00:11:32
end this war and that is to return all00:11:34
of the hostages and to surrender00:11:36
unconditionally that is what hamash00:11:37
should be doing that is where the focus00:11:40
PR hang on Emily that00:11:44
would no hang on Benjamin Netanyahu00:11:47
stated unequivocally this goes on until00:11:50
Hamas are finished all of them that00:11:52
means another that means another 20,00000:11:56
people have to be killed right who are00:11:57
just the terrorists so he's not going to00:11:59
stop if the hostages got released00:12:01
tomorrow that's not true I said unal00:12:05
uncal of Hamas I don't think prime00:12:08
minister Netanyahu has any intention00:12:10
even if the hostages get returned00:12:11
tomorrow of letting 20,000 Hamas00:12:14
terrorists remain in power in Gaza he's00:12:17
going to continue but that's I already00:12:19
said that I said the release of hostages00:12:21
and the unconditional surrender of Hamas00:12:23
Hamas cannot remain in power in the Gaza00:12:26
Strip and restore have Israel rest a00:12:29
sense of security those two things00:12:30
cannot coexist that is why Netanyahu00:12:33
said we will not accept any term in00:12:35
which Hamas stays in power because they00:12:37
will do the same thing again and the00:12:39
longer this goes on the longer they stay00:12:40
in power the more funding I think the00:12:43
most recent documents said 150 million00:12:45
went through senoir in the documents00:12:46
that the00:12:47
IDF the more money that Iran is funding00:12:50
you cannot just stronger Hamas is you00:12:52
cannot just kill everybody in Gaza you00:12:55
can't Israel is not intending to kill00:12:57
everyone in Gaza00:12:59
they carry on for many more months they00:13:02
carry on for many more months how many00:13:04
people are going to get killed no I00:13:06
can't answer that question as to how00:13:08
many people are going to be killed but I00:13:09
can tell you that not a single uh not00:13:11
even one more person would be killed if00:13:13
Hamas surrendered unconditionally00:13:18
today can I suggest something I make a00:13:21
suggestion since nahu and his government00:13:24
have before October 7th have already and00:13:27
and previous Israeli governments have00:13:29
murdered more civilians than Hamas ever00:13:31
did why don't we do why don't we flip00:13:34
this equation and say that the hostages00:13:36
will be released once nanyo and his00:13:39
government are taken to the Haag and and00:13:41
and uh and charged with war crimes I00:13:43
think it makes much more sense the00:13:44
Israelis have killed far more00:13:46
Palestinian children and Palestinian00:13:47
civilians than Hamas or any Palestinians00:13:50
ever have Israeli attacks on Gaza00:13:52
preceded Hamas by decades Israeli00:13:54
attacks the West Bank go on Israeli00:13:56
attacks in Jerusalem go on where where00:13:59
Hamas is not in charge so I mean this00:14:01
whole Hamas excuse is ridiculous why we00:14:03
do this let's wait till let's wait till00:14:06
we remove nany's government and then00:14:09
negotiate I think that should be the00:14:11
condition and the Israeli military which00:14:12
is a genocidal terrorist organization is00:14:15
disarmed and dismantled that will be a00:14:17
good time okay let me let me final let00:14:20
me give the final word to the00:14:21
Palestinian on the panel which is you00:14:24
Omar look we have to be stop this00:14:26
pretense that Israel is engaging in00:14:28
accidental violence in which Palestinian00:14:30
civilians are killed every major human00:14:32
rights organization in the world00:14:33
including by the way Israeli human00:14:35
rights organizations document that the00:14:37
Israeli military is engaging in00:14:38
indiscriminate violence against00:14:40
civilians and that is why the00:14:42
international court of justice has found00:14:44
that there is actually a plausible Case00:14:46
for Israel being engaged in genocidal00:14:48
violence in Gaza and that should tell00:14:50
you something and we have to stop00:14:51
pretending that you can kill this many00:14:52
people on accident and just one issue00:14:55
with with something that you mentioned00:14:56
Piers I don't think this is a question00:14:58
of proportionality we have to be clear00:15:00
about what Israel is doing here this is00:15:02
not an act of self-defense because an00:15:05
occupier can never in principle be00:15:07
defending themselves against the people00:15:09
they're occupying if we are serious once00:15:11
again what Israel is doing in Gaza if00:15:13
they wanted self-defense there were zero00:15:15
there were zero Israelis in Gaza on00:15:17
October 600:15:19
zero Gaza they bombed it at will00:15:22
whenever they wanted to and they00:15:23
prevented00:15:25
pal you never mention EGP no00:15:27
responsibility00:15:29
everything is always Israel you know you00:15:31
know the problem the problem with that00:15:32
argument the problem with that argument00:15:34
is this is that when it wanted to at the00:15:36
start of this war Israel had the power00:15:39
and capability to turn off the energy00:15:41
into Gaza to turn off the internet to00:15:44
turn off the water to turn off the food00:15:46
supply that is a form of occupation even00:15:48
if you're not physically inside Gaza00:15:51
that's actually false00:15:57
defending00:15:59
of I don't think Israel should have that00:16:02
power over any Palestinian if Israel if00:16:04
Israel was interested terorist00:16:06
organization should be ruling00:16:08
Palestinians either I don't think that I00:16:09
agree with you is ring Israel I agree00:16:12
with you I agree with you nuclear poers00:16:15
ruling is okay listen I've got to bring00:16:17
it I've got to bring it to an end it was00:16:19
a good it was a good debate thank you00:16:21
I've got to leave it there I'm sorry00:16:22
we've run out of time we've gone longer00:16:24
than than I was expecting to I00:16:25
appreciate the passion on all sides I00:16:28
hope we can get to a point where this00:16:29
ends and and people stop dying I think00:16:32
we can all agree with that so thank you00:16:34
all of you for joining me I appreciate00:16:43
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