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One thing that's kind of cool about
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these is that they are using the 3D
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knitting technology that Apple literally
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invented. I think that's kind of
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interesting and cool.
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>> Am I insane or is every knit 3D?
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>> Well, everything is 3D cuz if you're
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really 3D world,
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>> but I don't know. I I want to touch it.
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I guess it's not interesting. I don't
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want to buy it.
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>> It's not interesting. Someone I'm not
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going to say any names was into Slack
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this morning asking if Apple had sent
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it. Yeah, I wanted to [laughter]
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I show it on the podcast.
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[music] >> Yo, what is up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez.
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>> I'm Andrew. >> And I'm Nintendo Switch 2. And we're
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back. [laughter] In this episode, we've
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got a $200 sock. You'll [music]
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understand what that means in a second.
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Uh Grand Theft Auto 6 is delayed. E in
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frame impressions, a new Spotify weekly
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wrapped, and we whipped together some
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main channel metrics for smartphone
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season because numbers are fun.
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>> They are.
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>> Wow. >> Yeah, that's a lot of stuff. That's a
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That's a wide variety.
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>> Cuz it's Techvember season. It doesn't
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roll off. >> It's a little more difficult.
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>> Uh but we can't call Techvember when we
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were scrging to talk about stuff this
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week.
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>> Yeah. Not as many new things are coming
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out. Like that's what September and
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October, Techtotember and Tetober are
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mostly about. And then everything's on
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the shelf for the holiday season, which
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is basically starting now because people
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are buying things around Thanksgiving
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and Black Friday and Cyber Monday and
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all that.
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>> Like socks. >> Like socks.
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>> Is that the first thing we should talk
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about? Apple socks.
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>> I'm down. I feel like we already teed it
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up.
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>> It's the news. It's the news of the of
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the week. >> It actually is the news of the week.
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>> Unfortunately, the news of the week,
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>> unfortunately. Okay, so here's what
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happened. Apple released a new fashion
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collab product. We've seen many fashion
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collab products from tech companies
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before with the likes of, I don't know,
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Supreme and whatever other fashion
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brands. Uh, this one being more popular
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overseas. Uh, it is essentially a an
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iPhone case that is knit
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and looks like a sock basically.
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>> Yeah. There's two of them.
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>> There's a long one and a short one.
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>> Yes. And they start at $149
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and [snorts] $229.
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Yeah.
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>> Wow.
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>> Yeah. So, the last time Apple did a
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fashion collab was Hermes in 2015. So,
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it was quite >> the last one.
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>> Yeah. Quite a while ago, which makes
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sense. So, this is the same guy that did
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the guy that designed the the iPhone.
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>> What's it called? It's called the iPhone
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Pocket. >> Yeah.
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>> Not to be confused with the Game Boy
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Pocket,
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>> which was awesome.
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>> Which is also awesome. But it's the same
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>> probably about the same price.
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>> Probably about the same price. Same guy
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that designed Steve Jobs turtleneck. So,
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it seems that Apple is kind of going
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with like a heritage play here. And he's
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like, but yeah, you you get two options.
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It's called iPhone Pocket because the
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whole idea of it was to have an
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additional pocket on you that you could
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carry your iPhone with.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And you know, there's a cross body one,
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>> right?
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>> That is the bigger one. That's the $230
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one.
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>> Yeah. And then there's one that is much
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shorter that is made to be sort of like
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carried around your wrist and also tied
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to things, that kind of stuff. It's just
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so incredibly easy to dunk on this. I
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will say there's one
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>> there's one thing I like about these.
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The colors.
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>> The colors are dope.
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>> Insane.
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>> They're saturated. They're confident.
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They're bold. Cuz the iPhones, we all
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know, don't have bold, saturated colors.
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Look at the You see the iPhone in the
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blue thing. It's like a dark blue, but
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then you have you have real blue and
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real orange. I would argue that the
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orange is a bright, saturated, bold
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color. >> It's the brightest and saturated and
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most bold they've done, but still
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compare it to these threads. It's
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>> Yeah. It's just that every single press
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photo
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>> of them with this bag, I just It really
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looks like satire to me.
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>> Oh, yeah. It does feel like satire.
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>> The yellow one looks like the Borat
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bathing suit.
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>> Yeah. To have [laughter] I tweeted this
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and that was one of the highest.
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>> And maybe that's just fashion. I think
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like I look the reason this feels very
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easy to dunk on for us is because we're
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western media in Asian countries. These
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cross body bags, these like smaller
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sling things are very very very popular.
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>> Yeah, they had another one they launched
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earlier this year.
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>> Arguably, it's the reason they launched
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the cross body strap for the iPhone Air.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um so there's that. It's just that, you
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know, this looks like something that
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your grandma could make on Etsy. It's
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>> every designer club is easy to dunk on
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because they're all extremely expensive.
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Like the ar the air I don't know say
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right Hermes Apple watch bands were 200
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plus dollars
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>> right >> which is like
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>> obviously they're wellmade and they look
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really nice and I'm sure they're all
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fancy looking but like yeah
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>> it's it's a $200 Apple Watch band. So,
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uh, anytime and and this this goes way
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back. The Supreme collabs, the other
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collabs that tech companies do with
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fashion brands are just
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>> if you're not in the target demographic,
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it seems insane.
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>> Yeah. [snorts] And we are not in the
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target demographic, so it seems insane.
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>> Also, those Apple Watch bands are way
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more than $200. [laughter]
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>> The Amaze ones. How much?
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>> Uh, 350, $450. This metal one is $1,000.
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>> Yep. Nice.
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>> There you go. Just pay more than the
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watch.
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>> Yeah. So, I mean, one thing that's kind
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of cool about these is that they are
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using the 3D knitting technology that
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Apple literally invented. So, I think
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that's kind of interesting and cool.
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>> Am I insane or is every knit 3D?
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>> Well, everything is 3D cuz if you're
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really 3D world,
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>> but I don't know. I I want to touch it.
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I guess it's not interesting. I don't
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want to buy it.
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>> It's not interesting. Someone, I'm not
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going to say any names, was into Slack
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this morning asking if Apple had sent
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it.
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>> Yeah, I wanted to [laughter]
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>> I show it on the podcast.
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>> You know, it's surprising they didn't
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send this as a review unit.
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>> I feel like they've in the past not sent
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review units of things they didn't
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really
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>> have a lot of faith in.
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>> Again, it's made for the Asian market,
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so it's like clearly to us this is
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heck.
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>> They've sent some weird review unit
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things and they didn't send this. They
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also didn't send the was it the 13-in M1
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Touch Bar.
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>> Oh, >> remember they didn't send that to us?
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>> Oh, when we were dunking on that because
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they like kept the Touch Bar.
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>> Yeah. Well, it was just a weird
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>> release and I and they sent they
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neglected to send it before we dunked on
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it, but we went out and bought one and
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I'm pretty sure the guy at the Apple
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store was like,
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>> "Yeah,
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>> wait, this says it's for didn't you guys
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get one of these?" And I was like,
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"Nope." And they're like, "Oh, that's
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weird."
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No, I think this is just so firmly
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targeted towards Japan. Like they they
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talk about Japan a lot. All of they say
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it's crafted in Japan. It's obviously a
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Miyaki collab. Like this is this is for
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they released the time zone dropped on
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like the Japan time zone. So it was like
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the middle of the night for us. So it's
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it's not for us.
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>> I'm just going to say it's firmly not
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for me.
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>> Yeah. But it is it is really funny that
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we wake up and we see a new $230 sock to
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hold your iPhone and we're like, "Wow,
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that's a new thing Apple did." Huh.
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Throwback to the uh iPod sock.
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>> That's actually what?
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>> Yeah. Which cost like $30 or something.
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It was much cheaper.
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>> It was much cheaper. I threw that in
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Slack and Tim thought I had photoshopped
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it to try and trick him and I was like,
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"No, man. These were real." And there
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was there was for the iPod and the iPod
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Nano.
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>> I had one for my iPod.
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>> Nice.
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>> They were really dumb.
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>> Yeah. >> Yep.
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>> Um Yeah. I don't know, man. I'm a little
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confused at this because I do I am one
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of those people that has like a little
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man purse thing. Yeah. And I have like a
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little side strap bag that I put my
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phone in sometimes when I'm going out,
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whatever. But it has like a zipper and
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like a flap to close over the top to
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secure it. This is just like the Yeah.
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Like the phone is just like exposed.
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>> Well, it's not really It goes in the
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slit and then it sinks to the bottom.
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>> But then like But it is kind of just
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like primeocket.
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>> It can hit things
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cuz it's like a pocket. It's open.
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>> It looks like when you put a bunch of
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quarters in a sock to like beat someone
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[laughter] up with.
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>> When do you do that? You don't do that.
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Andrew does that all [laughter] the
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time.
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>> Yeah, man. Got to get stuff done
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sometime.
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>> I The fashion people can have their
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moment
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>> and I'm happy for Japan.
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>> I wonder what their next collab will be.
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Place your bets now cuz they we will be
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wrong for sure.
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>> 10 years ago was the last one. So
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>> yeah, we will be wrong about the next
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one. >> Mariah called it the from the Lorax. Do
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you remember that?
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>> No idea what that is. Also I it's so
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it's a piece it's a garment from the
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Lorax Dr. Seuss book which I then pulled
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up the Seuss fandom and
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>> it says the need is a highly versatile
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object knitted from the foliage of a
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truffle tree according to the
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>> Onsler. It's a a find something that all
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people need. It cost $3.99 approximately
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$30 adjusted for inflation according to
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the Lorax book.
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>> Lorax is is very they're on top of it.
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Speaking of uh
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>> very versatile things. Okay.
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>> Like a pocket.
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>> I'll take it.
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>> Uh the OnePlus 15 dropped finally this
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week. We all seeing the designs and
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seeing all the specs and it's finally
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finally finally finally fully uh
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official and out
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>> and it's kind of a monster phone. It's a
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very interesting phone. Very uh unlike
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the usual like spec bump refresh that we
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see. This is like prime Snapdragon 8
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Elite Gen 5 time when whoever wants to
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be first in that wave and come out with
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a new phone with a new chip just drops a
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new phone. This one is the new chip, but
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also a new design and also a new screen
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and also a whole bunch of new specs and
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also new software and also this crazy
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build quality and also a way worse set
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of cameras. >> I was just about to say that. [laughter]
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>> Yeah, I was just about to say that
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>> I can talk about any of this. The review
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is up by the time you are are listening
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to this podcast or watching us here. So,
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if you want to check that out, full
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review is out there. But, what do you
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guys think about this new phone?
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>> So, this is a phone that is the OPPO by
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any other name, right? This is the OPPO.
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It's basically the find X9 Pro.
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>> Yeah. Minus the good camera.
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>> Minus the good camera.
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>> That color is so good.
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>> And this is the sandstone one. And if
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you hold it, you will like it even more
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cuz it's like soft touch.
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>> I was so disappointed that you were
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telling me the cameras were bad. Because
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looking at that camera and you holding
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it and walking around, I was like, "Oh
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my god, that thing is beautiful."
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>> I had a moment where I was like, I loved
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using the rest of this phone so much. I
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was like, well, I do have the Hasselblad
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in my backpack. Maybe I just don't take
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pictures on my phone anymore. And I had
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like a week where I just
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>> That's right. That's how we do it.
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>> So, it is that good. So, they dropped
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the hassle. We're just talking about the
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camera. They dropped the Hasselblad
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branding. >> Yeah,
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>> they dropped a lot of the Hasselblad.
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>> No more XPand mode.
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>> No more XPAN mode. No more orange
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shutter button. They do still have that
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sound though,
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>> that like
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>> the leaf shutter >> leaf shutter clunk sound. So, they
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didn't totally wipe everything.
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>> Okay. >> But, uh, the sensors are all smaller,
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the apertures are all smaller, the
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photos are all worse, the videos are all
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worse, they're all noisier, the colors
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are duller, everything is worse about
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the cameras. Is the shutter button still
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orange? >> No.
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>> Yeah, I don't think it would look good
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on >> the best part. This phone looks good
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already. >> It's the virtual shutter.
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>> Oh, the virtual Okay.
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>> Yeah, the virtual shutter button is
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orange.
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>> It feels good.
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>> Tell me there's still the Xpan mode,
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though.
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>> There's not,
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>> which my real XPAN photo is much more
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valuable.
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>> Yeah, but the all the other parts of
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this phone are A+. I'm not exaggerating.
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Like the specs and the performance. the
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Snapdragon 8 Gen 5, which is paired with
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LP DDR5X Ultra Plus RAM.
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>> What?
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>> I'm going to fact check that.
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>> Yeah. 16 gigs of I've I've memorized it
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so many times. LP DDR5.
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>> Adding the word Ultra to RAM now.
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>> 10,000 megabytes per second RAM.
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>> This is Ultra Plus.
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>> Yeah, Ultra Plus. Don't forget the plus.
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Very important on the 16 gig, right? But
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it's very fast. This phone is incredibly
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quick. And there's also two new
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dedicated chips in it that make it like
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unusually quick. There's a 3200Hz touch
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response
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>> enabled by a touch response chip
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>> and there's a dedicated Wi-Fi chip
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called the G2 Wi-Fi chip
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>> and this phone loads web pages
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ridiculously fast. It's very responsive
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to the touch. It's just a like a just a
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really quick solid responsive phone all
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the time which is very encouraging.
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>> I was using Fishers last night and the
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first thing I noticed when I turned it
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on is the screen looked really freaking
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good. >> Screen is nice. It is a little brighter.
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It is a I think it's a slightly lower
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resolution than the OnePlus 13. It's
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1272 pixels across instead of 1440.
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>> Not to send this off the rails, but
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David, I'd like your thoughts on this
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cuz this uh Marquez and I going over
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[laughter] the
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>> the specs and script for this had some
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confusion
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>> about the resolution being 1.5K. He like
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wrote it in the script. He called it
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1.2K. OnePlus refers to it as the
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world's first 165 Hz 1.5K display. And
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they say it over and over and over
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again. 1.5K. 1.5K. So I keep checking
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what's that the max resolution
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>> Yeah.
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>> is like 2700 by 1272.
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>> So I'm like, why do you keep saying
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1.5K? Because the last phone was 1440.
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That's closer to 1.5K, right?
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>> And then I Googled what 1.5K means and
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it doesn't mean 1500 if anything. It
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just means somewhere between 1K and 2K.
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1440 is 2K because it's referring to
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Anyway,
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>> confusing. The LG G3 had a 2K display
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and that was a big deal.
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>> 1440. It was the world's first 1440
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smartphone.
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>> Now, why would you call that 2K
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>> if the resolution is 2560 by 1440? Thank
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you. because the in between of 2560 and
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1440 the average is around 2K.
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>> Uh that would possibly be true. But I
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think what I've realized is for higher
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resolutions we refer to it by the
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horizontal resolution and for lower
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resolutions we refer to it by the
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vertical. So on YouTube when you see
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240p that's the vertical resolution.
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480p is the vertical resolution. 720p is
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1280 by 720. Right.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Now, when you refer to the big
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resolutions, 4K, that's roughly 4,000
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across. >> 3840 is across.
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>> Exactly. Or DCI P3, which people always
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like to talk about DCI as well.
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>> Well, P3 is a color, right?
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>> Sorry. DCI is 4096 across.
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>> 4K. Yeah.
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>> But 4K is roughly 4,000 across. And 8K
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is roughly 8,000 across, right?
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>> A lot of people are getting confused
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that 4K was four times 1080, which is
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also happens to be true, but 8K is 16
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times 1080. So, it's not referring to
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how many times 1080. Was it four * 4K?
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>> It's four times 4K.
00:14:24
>> Oh, but that's eight.
00:14:25
>> But that's eight. Exactly. So, but what
00:14:26
if you take that and divide it by three?
00:14:29
>> What? [laughter]
00:14:30
>> Someone driving is just going to turn
00:14:31
off the side of the road right now to
00:14:33
not listen to.
00:14:34
>> So, the point is we have like the K's,
00:14:36
which are the horizontal resolution big
00:14:38
numbers, and we have the P's, which are
00:14:40
the lowresolution vertical numbers. And
00:14:43
then, for some reason in between, we
00:14:44
just abandon everything, and we have 2K,
00:14:46
which is 2560 x440. We just call that 2K
00:14:49
for I don't know what and then we just
00:14:52
adopt slightly less than 2K which is
00:14:54
1272 across is now 1.5K just cuz it's
00:14:58
less than 2K. How does that make any
00:14:59
sense?
00:15:00
>> I just want there's a solid like 10
00:15:01
minutes of Marquez and I with the
00:15:03
scripts in front of us and me being like
00:15:07
you say 1.2K and him holding up the
00:15:09
phone and being like it's 1.2K and me
00:15:11
being like this is the guide it says
00:15:12
1.5K and him being like but it's 1.2K
00:15:15
2K. I'm not going to lie. And we just
00:15:17
neither would budge until we both just
00:15:19
had to start googling.
00:15:20
>> I'm trying to be clear about this. So
00:15:21
like the reason they say 1.5 is because
00:15:23
the horizontal resolution of a vertical
00:15:26
phone. So you're you're saying so in in
00:15:29
vertical aspect ratio?
00:15:30
>> I don't think we know the answer.
00:15:31
>> No, the the answer is because it's less
00:15:33
than 2K but higher than 1080. That's why
00:15:36
it's 1.5.
00:15:37
>> But why would they talk about that as a
00:15:39
benefit? because it's 1.5K and 165 Hz at
00:15:43
the same time instead of having to pick
00:15:44
high resolution or higher refresh.
00:15:46
>> It's not the first 1.5K phone that that
00:15:48
actually helped us move forward on this
00:15:50
is there are other 1.5K phones
00:15:52
definitely just marketing.
00:15:53
>> It's just the first 1.5K
00:15:55
165 Hz phone.
00:15:56
>> Yep.
00:15:57
>> Well, I'm the first person named David
00:15:59
who also
00:16:00
>> is wearing a blue shirt.
00:16:01
>> Wearing a blue shirt and is in Carne,
00:16:03
New Jersey right now.
00:16:04
>> Yeah. So, that's
00:16:05
>> I would bet that's not even true.
00:16:08
[laughter] >> Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. But yeah,
00:16:10
anyway, so they OnePlus, I'm sure in
00:16:12
their presentation says 1.5K many times.
00:16:15
There is no part of the screen that is
00:16:16
1,500 of anything.
00:16:18
>> It is simply less than 2K,
00:16:21
>> which is why they say 1.5.
00:16:23
>> I have a potential answer to your thing
00:16:25
about horizontal versus vertical
00:16:27
resolutions.
00:16:28
>> Okay. Is it because we only used to have
00:16:31
a horizontal video and so when we look
00:16:34
at something in a vertical format, we
00:16:36
kind of just consider it horizontal
00:16:38
video that's tilted 90°. I think this is
00:16:41
this was true before we got a bunch of
00:16:43
vertical video. Like like 10 years ago
00:16:45
when we got the first 8K TVs and 4K,
00:16:47
everything was horizontal. Just it was
00:16:49
just like a nice marketing number. Ooh,
00:16:50
4K. Ooh, 8K. But 1080 is 1920 x 1080.
00:16:55
So, I would say 2K because that feels
00:16:57
like 2,000 across, but that's not 2K.
00:17:00
>> It's 1080. >> Why didn't we call it 1920? Why did we
00:17:03
say 1080p?
00:17:04
>> I would have I would have been the guy
00:17:05
that called that 2K back in the day. I
00:17:06
technically would have been wrong.
00:17:08
>> Well, then there's the whole thing with
00:17:09
like HD. There's two definitions of HD.
00:17:12
>> Yeah. Well, I know about the Hill HD
00:17:14
thing cuz I happen to use that word very
00:17:16
often.
00:17:17
>> All right.
00:17:18
I I think 1080 and above deserves to be
00:17:21
called HD, but many circles say 720 is
00:17:24
included in HD.
00:17:25
>> 720 HD originally meant 720. I thought
00:17:28
1920 was called full HD.
00:17:31
>> It did. So 720p was was HD and then
00:17:34
1080p was FHD. And technically 2K, which
00:17:38
is 1440p, is QHD, which is quad HD
00:17:41
because HD is 720 and it's quad 720. And
00:17:45
then 4K is full HD which is
00:17:48
>> ultra high definition ultra high
00:17:49
>> 3840 because it's four times 1080 is HD
00:17:55
>> it's a lot
00:17:56
>> the good the goodiest high definition.
00:17:58
Yeah. >> All that to say screen pretty nice.
00:18:01
[laughter] >> Yeah. I mean hey what about the rest of
00:18:03
the phone?
00:18:04
>> Yeah. Uh battery
00:18:06
>> battery
00:18:07
>> sickest phone I've used ever
00:18:09
>> for battery. 7,300 mAh
00:18:13
>> silicon carbon, highest silicon content
00:18:16
of any anode we've seen. Uh, and also it
00:18:18
lasts longer than the the I mean, I
00:18:20
didn't get to main this cuz my SIM card
00:18:21
wasn't working. So, I I can't like fully
00:18:23
like rest my laurels on this, but it was
00:18:24
lasting longer than the 7500 mAh Xiaomi
00:18:27
17 Pro Max.
00:18:28
>> This cuz they kill background tasks and
00:18:30
like that's the whole thing. It's
00:18:31
>> Does it not have bands? Is that why?
00:18:33
>> Um, it just wouldn't let me do my AT&T
00:18:35
SIM transfer. So, I got a T-Mobile SIM
00:18:37
like super late. Oh, either way,
00:18:39
incredible battery life
00:18:41
>> and 100 watt charging outside of the US,
00:18:43
80 watt charging here and 50 watt
00:18:44
wireless charging and bypass charging
00:18:46
and charge limiting if you want. Like,
00:18:48
it's an awesome battery.
00:18:49
>> Isn't there a thing where it reverse
00:18:50
wireless charges at 25 watts?
00:18:52
>> You can do that, too. I think it's
00:18:53
>> 22.5 W.
00:18:54
>> That was the Xiaomi that did 22 and 12
00:18:56
reverse. I don't know if this one does
00:18:57
it too, but it does reverse if you want.
00:18:59
>> Got it.
00:19:00
>> Um, so awesome. Awesome battery
00:19:02
experience. And then it has this like
00:19:04
crazy ceramic finish or nano arc
00:19:08
something. I don't even know exactly
00:19:09
what they're calling it. Like they did
00:19:10
this crazy finish to the metal where
00:19:13
it's basically ultra ultra hard and
00:19:14
scratch resistant. So you can
00:19:16
>> That's pretty hard to me.
00:19:17
>> Yeah. You can you can you can drag a
00:19:18
coin across the back of it and it leaves
00:19:20
a nasty looking scratch and then you
00:19:22
just wipe it off because you've realized
00:19:24
it's scratched the metal of the coin off
00:19:25
onto the back of the phone.
00:19:27
>> It's it's super durable. [snorts]
00:19:29
>> So I did a whole short just showing that
00:19:31
in action.
00:19:32
>> Two questions. Yeah.
00:19:33
>> One, does it have mags safe pixels/2?
00:19:38
>> That is probably the biggest missing
00:19:39
feature. They do have cases with magnets
00:19:41
in them, but it is not built into the
00:19:43
phone. So, >> okay. Second question. Uh, it's really
00:19:46
scratch resistant, right? So, does that
00:19:48
mean that it's more likely to shatter if
00:19:49
you drop it?
00:19:50
>> I So, in theory, yes. I just don't test
00:19:55
that. So, I don't know. I don't know.
00:19:57
And I'm sure Zach's going to get his
00:19:58
hands on this and and do a scratch
00:20:00
testing. But >> I was wondering if they had anything
00:20:01
like in the review guides or something
00:20:02
like, "Don't worry about that. It's
00:20:03
fine."
00:20:04
>> No, they didn't. I mean, they they did
00:20:05
talk a big game about the finish, and it
00:20:07
feels great in the hand, which is like
00:20:08
the most important thing. It's got this
00:20:09
little micro texture to it. I was using
00:20:11
the matte black one, which actually
00:20:12
feels even more different from that.
00:20:14
>> But really, I I love the finish on the
00:20:16
back. >> It does feel very hard.
00:20:18
>> Yeah. [laughter]
00:20:19
>> I don't really
00:20:20
>> I think it's fiberglass on the back and
00:20:21
then the the nano arc whatever is on the
00:20:24
rails, >> but it feels great. I love the nano arc.
00:20:26
Whatever.
00:20:27
>> Yeah. Um, so yeah, everything about this
00:20:29
phone was was great and then the cameras
00:20:31
were a huge letd down. So I'm like I
00:20:33
could daily this phone, but I would just
00:20:34
be super disappointed with
00:20:36
>> if it had the Oppo X9 cameras.
00:20:38
>> That would be nice.
00:20:39
>> Funny you mentioned that because I was
00:20:41
crossopping those two phones as you do
00:20:43
when you have no intention of buying the
00:20:45
phones.
00:20:46
>> Am I the only one? Right. Just watching
00:20:47
videos constantly about
00:20:48
>> Sure. You have no intention of buying
00:20:49
the phone? >> Not yet. Uh, would you say that the
00:20:52
OnePlus 15 is the 15, right? OnePlus 15
00:20:56
is like just the Oppo Find X9 Pro but
00:21:00
for the states or are there like
00:21:03
dramatic differences or meaningful
00:21:04
differences between the two besides the
00:21:06
camera obviously? >> I mean aesthetically yes. Uh software
00:21:09
wise also like Oxygen OS is closer and
00:21:12
closer to Color OS that it kind of feels
00:21:13
like that's also
00:21:14
>> remember they temporarily changed it to
00:21:16
Color OS and people got mad even though
00:21:17
it was like the same software.
00:21:19
>> Yeah. So they call it oxygen OS but
00:21:21
basically the same >> is sick too though.
00:21:22
>> Coloros is good.
00:21:23
>> I didn't even remember it.
00:21:24
>> It is
00:21:25
>> I that morning I was watching a video on
00:21:28
color on the [laughter] podcast.
00:21:30
>> Yeah, it it does have a bunch of things
00:21:31
like uh you know how subtle things. You
00:21:34
notice when you open Google Maps it's
00:21:37
not 120 Hz anymore. Your phone or waves?
00:21:40
>> I almost I don't
00:21:41
>> it's always in Android Auto. So I almost
00:21:43
never >> Did you notice that Android Auto is not
00:21:45
120 Hz?
00:21:46
>> I guess I never thought. I guess I'm my
00:21:48
eyes are usually on the road. [laughter]
00:21:49
>> So yeah, this is this is like picky
00:21:52
picky picky little stuff, but like
00:21:54
certain apps Android defaults to not run
00:21:57
at 120 Hz to save battery. Like maps,
00:22:00
like you don't need 120 Hz maps. You're
00:22:02
just going to, you know, update for your
00:22:03
navigation. Well, okay, perfect. Because
00:22:06
in this phone, you can go through and
00:22:08
choose your max refresh rate on an
00:22:10
appbyapp basis. And so you you open it
00:22:13
up and you see everything set to 120 and
00:22:15
then you see ways and maps and Android
00:22:16
Auto are set to 90 by default. And you
00:22:18
can just bump them up to 120 and
00:22:20
suddenly you have the smoothest maps
00:22:21
experience of any Android phone. That
00:22:23
type of stuff pretty fire. There's a lot
00:22:25
of little settings you can mess with.
00:22:27
There's also plenty of stuff you don't
00:22:28
have to touch. Like I don't use their AI
00:22:30
stuff. I don't use mine space but it's
00:22:33
there if you want to. Uh yeah, really
00:22:36
really good phone. Really useful phone.
00:22:38
But do they sell a pocket for it? There
00:22:41
is no pocket for it, but I'm sure you
00:22:42
could put it in the Apple pocket.
00:22:44
>> I don't know. >> You just put it in a sock.
00:22:45
>> Probably explode if you put it in the
00:22:47
>> You just buy a $200 sock. You can get
00:22:50
amazing socks for $200.
00:22:51
>> You get the [clears throat] Teenage Engineering socks.
00:22:54
>> How much $7? Oh, yeah.
00:22:55
>> No, they're not that expensive.
00:22:57
>> But you can only get them if you buy the
00:22:59
whole >> No, I think you buy them separately.
00:23:01
>> Oh, really? Yeah. How much were they?
00:23:02
>> Oh, they're $29 for two pair.
00:23:04
>> 30 bucks for two pairs.
00:23:05
>> Well, we actually not sure if it's
00:23:06
>> We're definitely sure it's two pairs.
00:23:08
>> You can get six pairs of those socks.
00:23:10
Okay. Anyway, I like the phone a lot.
00:23:13
Watch the full review.
00:23:14
>> I really want to throw this against
00:23:15
concrete and see what happens.
00:23:17
>> I don't think that's how it works.
00:23:18
>> Well, that's the whole thing, right?
00:23:20
It's hard. >> Well, if you're going to you don't do
00:23:23
you don't use a case on your phone.
00:23:24
>> N.
00:23:25
>> So, like the screen's going to shatter
00:23:26
anyway.
00:23:27
>> Maybe. >> So,
00:23:30
>> I don't know. What if I threw it
00:23:31
sideways? You know, >> I feel like he's imagining he throws it
00:23:34
and the concrete just like splits
00:23:35
underneath it. [laughter]
00:23:36
>> Like when a superhero waves.
00:23:38
>> Yeah, that's true. That would be fire. I
00:23:40
mean, it kind of feels like you should
00:23:41
be able to do that.
00:23:42
>> Well, uh, speaking of surprising,
00:23:45
>> speaking of superheroes,
00:23:46
>> we've gone so far off script already. I
00:23:49
don't know what any of you are trying to
00:23:50
segue, too.
00:23:51
>> I was going to go for the iPhone Air
00:23:53
next. >> I know. I was going for LeBron.
00:23:55
>> Oh, uh, superheroes. I get it. Well,
00:23:57
which one?
00:23:58
>> Do you want to do that?
00:24:00
>> Which one? >> LeBron quick and then we'll jump to
00:24:01
iPhone.
00:24:02
>> Yeah. LeBron has this new show on his uh
00:24:05
his YouTube channel. It's called
00:24:07
Uninterrupted. And the show's called The
00:24:09
Main Thing. And he's got these
00:24:10
interviews. He's interviewing six people
00:24:12
>> a day.
00:24:13
>> Um, >> wait, it's his YouTube channel.
00:24:15
>> It's Well, yeah, he runs the company, so
00:24:17
it's like kind of his YouTube channel.
00:24:18
>> Oh, but it's not like LeBron James.
00:24:20
>> It's not LeBron James, but it's
00:24:21
uninterrupted. And it's the LeBron
00:24:23
interview show called The Main Thing.
00:24:25
>> And LeBron does edit all of it.
00:24:27
>> Yeah. Yeah. He's got this incredible eye
00:24:29
for color correction. [laughter] I don't
00:24:30
know if you guys knew that.
00:24:32
>> So, you guys play basketball while
00:24:33
you're doing the interview? No, he so we
00:24:35
I was [laughter] one of the
00:24:37
>> I was one of the guests. It was a good
00:24:38
time. Uh we shot it like two months ago
00:24:41
or something. I don't even remember when
00:24:42
we shot this, but it was a good
00:24:45
>> It was a good interview and it's finally
00:24:47
up now. So if you want to watch it, it's
00:24:49
on YouTube.
00:24:50
>> Wait, do you want to guess what they
00:24:51
actually played during the interview?
00:24:52
>> Um
00:24:53
>> Fortnite.
00:24:54
>> How about we play a video game?
00:24:58
>> Did you actually play the video game?
00:24:59
>> We played two video games.
00:25:01
>> Okay. Oh, I saw them give you one from
00:25:03
2004 and one Oh, you saw it.
00:25:05
>> I saw him give you a controller and I
00:25:07
thought it was maybe one of those fake
00:25:08
shoots where it's like I'm gaming, but
00:25:10
actually not.
00:25:11
>> Well, so the TV was like on the other
00:25:13
side of the room and we were playing
00:25:14
like really far away. We played Madden.
00:25:17
>> Wait. Oh, that's what I was going to
00:25:18
guess. >> Oh, I didn't know you Oh, so yeah, you
00:25:20
were right. You [snorts] were totally
00:25:21
going to get it.
00:25:22
>> Oh, [laughter] sweet.
00:25:23
>> Madden04 and Madden 26.
00:25:25
>> So, the one on the N64
00:25:26
>> was Madden04.
00:25:27
>> On the N64,
00:25:28
>> I think it was an N64. I don't actually
00:25:30
remember which console it was.
00:25:32
>> Was the controller like
00:25:34
>> describe the controller.
00:25:35
>> Was it for someone in the video?
00:25:37
[laughter] >> Like the middle? I don't think it was
00:25:38
that middlear,
00:25:40
>> but it was 04. So, whatever console you
00:25:42
could get Madden04 on back in the day,
00:25:44
that's what we play. >> I actually 04. I I got my Xbox in
00:25:49
seventh grade, which would be 2003. So,
00:25:51
probably would have been Xbox or
00:25:52
PlayStation 2, right? Yeah,
00:25:54
>> that feels right. Maybe PlayStation 2.
00:25:56
Yeah, >> I think it's past N64. Either way, uh,
00:25:59
we yes, we did actually play the game
00:26:00
and it was distracting trying to
00:26:03
interview each other and play Madden.
00:26:05
And also, if you're competitive, we're
00:26:07
trying to beat each other in Madden. So,
00:26:08
>> wait, what football team did you pick?
00:26:10
>> I don't remember. I think I picked the
00:26:11
Broncos.
00:26:13
>> Why would you?
00:26:14
>> Cuz I don't play Madden and I don't
00:26:15
really I don't know who's good in 2004.
00:26:18
>> I'm not even a football.
00:26:20
>> Wait, why are you guys playing a
00:26:21
football game?
00:26:22
>> So, Madden uh LeBron's a big Madden guy.
00:26:24
He plays a lot of Madden.
00:26:25
>> Why isn't he Why isn't he a football
00:26:27
player? Well, he used to be a football
00:26:29
player. >> Really? >> Yeah. And now he plays basketball. And
00:26:31
it was funny because I chatted with him
00:26:32
about NBA 2K and his biggest gripe was
00:26:34
that it's not realistic enough, which is
00:26:36
I mean, you're a basketball. [laughter]
00:26:38
>> Obviously, you're not going to think
00:26:39
it's perfect, but it was funny because I
00:26:41
think that's what an NFL player would
00:26:43
say about Madden, >> too. But what's the other game you guys
00:26:45
played?
00:26:46
>> That was it. So, Madden04 and then we
00:26:48
switched to Madden 26. So, we played the
00:26:50
old Madden and then the newest Madden to
00:26:52
sort of compare them. It was a fun
00:26:54
little >> What were your thoughts on the
00:26:55
differences? uh feels like you're
00:26:58
playing with polygons in the first one.
00:26:59
Yeah. Which is very it's very old
00:27:01
school. There's very few plays.
00:27:03
>> And the characters
00:27:05
>> move like um they don't move like they
00:27:07
have joints. They move like they're kind
00:27:09
of like on rails sort of and like you
00:27:12
can move in
00:27:13
>> vectors of like lightweight pulleys that
00:27:15
control their arms and keep them at only
00:27:17
68 pounds.
00:27:19
>> Neo robot.
00:27:20
>> Yeah. Thanks. I was I was reaching
00:27:22
[clears throat] >> it was it was fun to see to contrast the
00:27:25
difference between old
00:27:28
>> hyperrealistic game and new hyper
00:27:30
realistic game and then think about the
00:27:32
future of that which would have been
00:27:33
fun. So yeah, you can go watch that too.
00:27:34
That's on the interrupted YouTube
00:27:35
channel.
00:27:36
>> Okay. Well, speaking of something that's
00:27:38
getting interrupted,
00:27:39
>> shipments of the iPhone air.
00:27:41
>> Ah,
00:27:42
>> wow. That was so good.
00:27:43
>> A lot of people sent me this headline.
00:27:45
>> Yeah. So,
00:27:47
I think that we need to make the
00:27:48
distinction that this is all alleged.
00:27:51
>> Yeah. >> Um, a lot of the headlines were not
00:27:53
saying alleged, but the original source
00:27:56
was alleged. So, it's alleged.
00:27:58
>> Allegedly,
00:27:59
>> as with any leaks.
00:28:00
>> Yes. So, as we know, apparently the
00:28:03
iPhone Air is not doing well, which I am
00:28:05
still confused about because my
00:28:06
anecdotal evidence in New York City
00:28:09
>> in Greenpoint
00:28:10
>> in Greenpoint [laughter]
00:28:13
>> says to me,
00:28:14
>> very representative of America
00:28:15
[laughter] >> that this is selling very well. Uh yeah,
00:28:17
apparently iPhone Air is not selling
00:28:19
well and selling so badly that they are
00:28:22
going to not release the one that they
00:28:24
were going to release next year, which
00:28:26
to be fair, they're releasing the iPhone
00:28:28
Fold next year, so they would have had
00:28:30
just so many phones.
00:28:31
>> Allegedly.
00:28:32
>> Allegedly.
00:28:33
>> Maybe.
00:28:34
>> Um and instead they're going to wait
00:28:35
until 2027, spring at the earliest, when
00:28:39
they will add a second camera lens
00:28:40
because apparently that has been one of
00:28:42
the main gripes. So, they're not
00:28:44
completely getting rid of the iPhone Air
00:28:46
idea like they did with the mini. Rest
00:28:48
in peace. Um, but they are Yeah, they're
00:28:51
just going to modify it and add a second
00:28:53
camera. I'm just going to say I'm not
00:28:55
sure that the lack of a second camera
00:28:57
was the reason people were not buying
00:28:58
this phone.
00:28:59
>> Yeah,
00:29:00
>> Apple. But,
00:29:01
>> I don't know that to be true. That was a
00:29:04
reason why a lot of people that I saw
00:29:06
were not buying it was because they were
00:29:07
scared of it not having a second lens.
00:29:10
>> I think there are two main reasons. not
00:29:12
a second lens and a bigger battery. So,
00:29:14
if they just added a second lens and
00:29:15
just made it a little thicker to get a
00:29:17
little bit more battery
00:29:18
>> and maybe even dropped the price a
00:29:19
little. [laughter]
00:29:20
>> I'm actually kind of wondering why this
00:29:22
phone is not selling well
00:29:24
>> because it costs $200 more than a better
00:29:26
phone. >> But how much phones cost in the US
00:29:29
doesn't seem to matter to people because
00:29:30
everyone's on a payment plan.
00:29:32
>> But this is worldwide. So, it's like,
00:29:33
okay, in the US maybe more people will
00:29:35
go with this phone and especially in
00:29:37
certain places. But then like outside of
00:29:39
that like the enthusiasts are picking
00:29:44
the best phone they can get.
00:29:45
>> Yeah.
00:29:46
>> And the normal people are picking the
00:29:48
most accessible phone they can get. Then
00:29:50
what is the person that picks the more
00:29:52
expensive but slightly less functional
00:29:54
phone?
00:29:55
>> The people who buy the sock.
00:29:57
>> That is actually true.
00:29:59
>> Yes, that is true.
00:30:00
>> Yes. But it's also not that much more.
00:30:02
It's like it's still cheaper than the
00:30:04
Pro.
00:30:05
>> Right. So there's that. But if you're if
00:30:08
you're going to spend more money, what
00:30:09
do you want out of that? It
00:30:10
>> depends on who you are.
00:30:11
>> Yeah, fair enough. I think for maybe
00:30:14
most people, you're spending more hoping
00:30:16
to get a phone that's better and lasts
00:30:18
longer and is like better battery,
00:30:21
better cameras and stuff like that. And
00:30:22
so you you see that the Pro is that and
00:30:24
you go straight to the Pro and you skip
00:30:27
over the Air, which is in the middle of
00:30:28
them.
00:30:29
>> If there are some people who obviously
00:30:31
go in the store, pick it up, love it,
00:30:32
hold it, amazed by it, they're going to
00:30:34
buy that because they like it. But I
00:30:36
just think that's less people than they
00:30:37
expected.
00:30:38
>> I will say as well to my anecdotal
00:30:40
evidence, I see so many pros.
00:30:42
>> I do see a lot of pros.
00:30:44
>> It seems like everyone upgraded this
00:30:46
year. >> Yeah, it's crazy.
00:30:48
>> Wait, before we get off the pricing
00:30:49
talk, do you want to know how much the
00:30:51
iPhone air is monthly if you were to get
00:30:53
it through Apple?
00:30:54
>> $37
00:30:55
>> 41. And the regular iPhone 17 is 33.
00:31:00
>> Okay. I don't think most I don't know.
00:31:01
So if even if you're doing a payment
00:31:03
plan, it's like that's not even the
00:31:04
cheapest one.
00:31:05
>> Yeah. It's not the cheapest. Yeah.
00:31:07
>> Do you guys think for the average
00:31:10
consumer who's not sick in the head like
00:31:13
us?
00:31:14
>> Yeah. >> That the 16E actually makes the air a
00:31:18
difficult value proposition, which hear
00:31:21
me out, right?
00:31:22
>> Guess is going to come over this table.
00:31:24
[laughter] But I think because I think a
00:31:28
lot of people who are not in our world
00:31:30
see it's an iPhone with one camera and
00:31:33
then they do some research and the
00:31:35
functional differences between them that
00:31:37
other than processing power and RAM and
00:31:39
stuff like that which I would assume the
00:31:41
kind of people who are choosing between
00:31:43
like which iPhone to get and are not
00:31:44
getting the Pro are not really thinking
00:31:45
about you get high refresh screen.
00:31:48
>> Mhm.
00:31:49
>> Mag Safe and thinness.
00:31:51
>> Yeah. And other things they won't notice
00:31:53
like pro chip. Exactly. And that is a
00:31:55
pretty big price discrepancy between 16e
00:31:57
and Air. And I'm not saying anyone's
00:31:59
going to choose the 16e over the Air,
00:32:01
but do you think it makes the value prop
00:32:03
of the Air a little bit more confusing?
00:32:06
>> I think there's a there's something to
00:32:08
that. I just think the second it costs
00:32:09
more than the base 17, it was confusing.
00:32:12
I think when you have the base 17
00:32:14
sitting there which is like the easy to
00:32:16
understand newest iPhone and then they
00:32:18
also have a more expensive iPhone which
00:32:21
is very pretty but is [snorts] a worse
00:32:24
it's a single camera it is less battery
00:32:26
it is all these downsides. Yeah,
00:32:28
>> that is already
00:32:30
>> that's true >> of sort of
00:32:31
>> the only benefit is that it's thinner
00:32:33
and more sort of like premium and pretty
00:32:35
>> pretty
00:32:36
>> but it's missing a camera has worse
00:32:38
battery.
00:32:39
>> One of my best friends who's a 16e owner
00:32:42
and like generally likes it.
00:32:44
>> When she went to go buy it, she was
00:32:47
really not sure about one camera. She's
00:32:48
not
00:32:49
>> techy at all and she was like, "How am I
00:32:51
gonna get by
00:32:53
>> with just one camera?"
00:32:54
>> And the Apple Store employee was like,
00:32:55
"No, no, we're doing this thing. called
00:32:57
fusion camera like like don't worry like
00:32:59
you're going to get a lot of good out of
00:33:00
this like this is the future this is the
00:33:02
way >> three camera lenses in one
00:33:03
>> yeah exactly like the whole feel and
00:33:05
then when the 17 regular came out and it
00:33:07
still had two cameras even though Apple
00:33:09
never said they were going to do it she
00:33:10
was like
00:33:11
>> wait a second [laughter]
00:33:15
>> yeah yeah and me [laughter]
00:33:18
>> they do so I mean you can't you can't
00:33:21
fake an ultra wide you can kind of fake
00:33:23
some some amount of zoom but if you have
00:33:25
a really good telephoto, that's always
00:33:27
going to be better.
00:33:28
>> Yeah. >> Uh I saw a take on Twitter recently.
00:33:30
Maybe I'll find it again that was kind
00:33:32
of like someone was saying I take better
00:33:34
pictures now that I only have one camera
00:33:36
because I am more intentional. And the
00:33:38
random shots that I was going to take
00:33:40
with the zoom were always worse because
00:33:43
they would just be like lazily zooming
00:33:44
in with the software instead of
00:33:46
intentionally framing it up with the
00:33:48
single primary camera.
00:33:49
>> Primary zoom.
00:33:50
>> What kind of are you?
00:33:52
>> That is exactly Yeah, that's a real uh
00:33:55
cope. But it is.
00:33:56
>> Yeah. I mean, it's it's the same excuse
00:33:58
that a lot of film photographers use.
00:34:00
>> Yeah. >> And more intentional because it's
00:34:02
harder. That was one of my old old hot
00:34:04
takes was primes are stupid.
00:34:06
>> What?
00:34:07
>> What? >> Prime stupid.
00:34:08
>> We need to cut this before this is a
00:34:10
three-hour episode.
00:34:11
>> Primes are primes are just not bonus
00:34:14
episode opinion.
00:34:15
>> I have an opposite.
00:34:16
>> Prove me wrong. [laughter]
00:34:18
>> Primes are just so bad.
00:34:20
>> Did any of you guys see the Toy Story
00:34:22
trailer? >> Do it with your feet, man.
00:34:24
Toy Story 5 trailer. No.
00:34:26
>> Was it with your feet? [laughter]
00:34:30
>> Zoom like [clears throat] this.
00:34:31
>> No, I did not see the Toy Story 5
00:34:33
trailer. >> I'm imagining Marquez [laughter]
00:34:35
>> with his feet up on his zoom lens.
00:34:39
>> Zoom with [laughter] your feet, bro.
00:34:41
>> Spongebob toes like,
00:34:44
>> um, this is very fast. But did none of
00:34:46
you guys saw the Toy Story 5 trailer?
00:34:48
>> No. >> It is all it is.
00:34:50
>> Oh, I did see a frame from it. Yeah. is
00:34:53
um a box in like Andy's room or I don't
00:34:56
even know if it's Andy anymore. Uh all
00:34:58
of the toys like quivering and freaking
00:35:00
out and then at the end they pull out a
00:35:02
tablet and it's basically just I guess
00:35:04
the new movie is about all the toys
00:35:06
being really scared of the tablet taking
00:35:08
away
00:35:09
>> honestly fire concept.
00:35:11
>> That's a good that seems like a good
00:35:12
like AI trailer someone would make on
00:35:14
Twitter and you're like a ha good idea
00:35:15
but they're actually going to make this
00:35:16
a movie.
00:35:17
>> This is from Pixar. I want to ask your
00:35:18
opinion on this, Andrew, as the only
00:35:20
parent in the room because I have a
00:35:21
friend who now has two children and he
00:35:23
is struggling making sure that they
00:35:25
don't not you, Ellis. [laughter]
00:35:27
>> Making sure that they don't have um
00:35:29
tablet tablet kids like how is that
00:35:32
working out for you? >> The only time she looks at a tablet is
00:35:35
cuz we have one for FaceTime with some
00:35:36
family. Um, she watches TV sometimes and
00:35:40
then like if we're on a really long car
00:35:42
ride and like pushing bedtime or like
00:35:44
something where we're getting real
00:35:45
cranky, then I can throw on her favorite
00:35:48
show.
00:35:49
>> But does she have like a bunch of toys
00:35:50
like and that's what you
00:35:52
>> She has toys. She loves to play. Yeah.
00:35:54
Yeah. Play with toys.
00:35:55
>> Follow question. Is she up or down over
00:35:58
time on her Poly Market account?
00:36:00
[laughter]
00:36:01
>> She's terrible at Poly Market.
00:36:04
>> Always making all these bets. No, I I I
00:36:07
am an iPad kid. I think [laughter]
00:36:09
>> I They didn't have the iPad when you
00:36:11
were a kid.
00:36:12
>> No, I'm I am an iPad kid now.
00:36:13
>> Currently kid.
00:36:15
>> I like make food, sit down at the like
00:36:18
in the living room and then I'm just
00:36:19
like scrolling through like Claire will
00:36:21
be done eating dinner. I'm like, we
00:36:22
haven't even picked what to watch yet.
00:36:25
>> Claire, help me. Stop eating.
00:36:28
>> Yeah. >> Oh my god.
00:36:30
>> I think I eat more of my meals with a
00:36:32
screen in front of me than not.
00:36:33
>> Oh my god. Lately, I'm not doing that
00:36:34
because now I eat dinner with Lane and
00:36:36
Claire and we don't do it in front of
00:36:37
the TV. But yeah, before I would like
00:36:39
actually get mad at Claire sometimes. We
00:36:41
used to be country. We used to be
00:36:44
>> You should try it.
00:36:45
>> Meal time.
00:36:46
>> Check out the meal time video subreddit.
00:36:48
Tell me that's not just bangers.
00:36:50
>> I do know about that.
00:36:51
>> Videos 20 20 30 minute videos that you
00:36:54
just sit it down and eat your and it's
00:36:55
just great.
00:36:56
>> That seems like a great subreddit to
00:36:58
spam your YouTube channel on to
00:37:00
>> probably loyal followers. But it's got
00:37:02
to be like the Yeah, that perfect length
00:37:05
of video. >> I hope that Toy Story 5 I hope that the
00:37:08
big ethical question that they explore
00:37:10
is what's happening to our children with
00:37:12
the iPad. I
00:37:13
>> feel like it's got to be.
00:37:14
>> I really hope so.
00:37:15
>> Based on the trailer,
00:37:16
>> it's a big thing. It's a big deal. It's
00:37:17
a big ethical question.
00:37:18
>> There's a lot of iPad kids.
00:37:19
>> The funny thing about it is the amount
00:37:21
of kids that will probably watch Toy
00:37:22
Story 5 on an iPad is a large percentage
00:37:25
after
00:37:26
>> and they will understand what they're
00:37:27
watching. They won't be like, "Is this
00:37:30
bad for my brain development?"
00:37:31
>> No, they're going to have it split
00:37:32
screen with Google Docs [laughter] and
00:37:34
Poly Market picture and pictures trading
00:37:38
stocks while watching Toy Story 5 in
00:37:40
their diaper.
00:37:41
>> All right. Well, let's take a quick
00:37:43
break and do some trivia and we got a
00:37:44
little more to talk about after, but
00:37:46
let's hit it.
00:37:50
>> Scooby Doobydoo.
00:37:52
>> Guys, I have two potential questions for
00:37:54
today I figured I'd ask. Would you
00:37:56
rather answer a question about battery
00:37:59
sizes?
00:38:00
>> H
00:38:01
>> or socks.
00:38:03
>> Socks.
00:38:04
>> Socks. >> Battery sizes.
00:38:06
>> Um guys, that iPhone sock is really
00:38:08
expensive. But
00:38:10
>> oh, >> what is more expensive? [snorts]
00:38:14
A the most recent brand new in package,
00:38:18
excuse me, brand new inbox listing sold
00:38:21
on eBay like the view old sold products
00:38:23
of a fivepack of the original 2004
00:38:26
[music] iPod socks.
00:38:29
Really long unopened
00:38:30
>> unopened five pack [music] in the
00:38:32
packaging. B the short strap iPhone
00:38:36
pocket, not the [music] long strap for
00:38:38
>> 150. or C. A pair of plain white men's
00:38:42
socks from the fashion brand Balenciaga.
00:38:45
[laughter]
00:38:47
>> That's two socks.
00:38:48
>> Oh god. Plain white man. You know how a
00:38:50
plain white t-shirt would be like $200?
00:38:52
>> I I also realize it's a little confusing
00:38:54
because like you know the first item is
00:38:57
five socks, the second item is one sock,
00:38:59
and the third item is two socks. So
00:39:01
we're going by SKS here. Just make it
00:39:03
clear. >> Plain white. Like there's not even a
00:39:04
Balenciaga logo on it. It says the word
00:39:07
Balenciaga in black text.
00:39:08
>> I know what the answer is. [laughter]
00:39:12
>> All right. Well, we'll we'll think about
00:39:13
that. Of course, if we don't get it
00:39:14
right, we'll at least learn something
00:39:16
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>> All right, welcome back. I'm going to do
00:42:38
a very, very quick recap of GTA 6
00:42:41
getting delayed because I don't think
00:42:43
any of us here
00:42:44
>> I've never played GTA before.
00:42:45
>> I played some older ones. God, what is
00:42:46
wrong with
00:42:47
>> I've only sat on the couch during co and
00:42:49
watched Michael Fischer play GTA. That's
00:42:51
all that's all I've done.
00:42:52
>> That's that's on the couch playing.
00:42:54
Yeah, >> I guess.
00:42:55
>> Well, okay. So, Grand Theft Auto has
00:42:58
been delayed till November 19th, 2026.
00:43:01
>> Let's go, baby.
00:43:02
>> It's No, that is one year from now. Um,
00:43:04
it had already been delayed to May 2026,
00:43:07
but now I guess months before that even
00:43:09
happening, they decided we can't even
00:43:10
hit that one. We're delaying another
00:43:12
year.
00:43:13
>> Let's go. Um, that's that's a a long
00:43:16
time. It's already the meme of like we
00:43:18
already got blank and blank before GTA
00:43:21
like everywhere. So, um,
00:43:22
>> with the iPhone sock before GTA
00:43:24
>> we got the [laughter] iPhones.
00:43:25
>> Isn't that the one that had the trailer
00:43:26
come out that was super super viral?
00:43:28
>> Yep. >> That was GTA 6.
00:43:29
>> Oh, yeah.
00:43:30
>> It's like one of the highest viewed
00:43:32
YouTube videos of all time. >> So, what do you think is delaying it?
00:43:34
What do you
00:43:35
>> So their official quote was, "We are
00:43:36
sorry for adding additional time to what
00:43:38
we realize has been a long wait, but
00:43:39
these extra months will allow us to
00:43:40
finish the game with level of polish
00:43:42
that you have come to expect and
00:43:43
deserve."
00:43:44
>> Well, one of the biggest poly market uh
00:43:47
bets [laughter]
00:43:48
is whether or not GTA 6 will be over
00:43:50
$100. And there's people have put so
00:43:54
much money into this bet.
00:43:55
>> Over. It's got to be over, right?
00:43:58
>> The bundle or just the game?
00:44:00
>> I think just the base game. like just
00:44:01
$100.
00:44:03
Usually games are like 607.
00:44:05
>> Put your money where your mouth is. Is
00:44:06
that like [laughter]
00:44:08
2K? You can spend over $100 on a new
00:44:11
copy of 2K.
00:44:12
>> Uh but the base copy is like 80 or 90 I
00:44:15
think you and that's one of the more
00:44:17
expensive. >> Well, yeah, but they've been working on
00:44:18
GTA 6 for like it's like the biggest
00:44:21
game ever. >> That's true. It has the most hype. It
00:44:23
has the most like people waiting for it
00:44:25
and delays. I mean, it's essentially
00:44:26
infinite demand and they can make
00:44:28
infinite supply. I think if they made it
00:44:30
110 bucks, people would buy it.
00:44:31
>> Yes, they would.
00:44:32
>> Don't say that.
00:44:33
>> I'm just [laughter] It's true. I It's I
00:44:35
hate saying it because I don't want it
00:44:36
to be true, but it's like one of those
00:44:38
things where it's like I we want it to
00:44:39
be 40 bucks.
00:44:40
>> Remember how mad people were I mean,
00:44:41
this is exactly what happened with Mario
00:44:42
Kart World. People were so mad that it
00:44:44
was $80, but it's exactly what you're
00:44:46
saying. People will still buy it.
00:44:48
>> Yeah. They'll grumble all the way to the
00:44:49
cash register.
00:44:50
>> Yeah. And
00:44:51
>> there was some insane stat that was like
00:44:53
95% of people who own a Switch 2 also
00:44:56
own Mario Kart World. Well, that's cuz
00:44:58
there's no other games out for it except
00:44:59
for
00:45:00
>> it's the best game for it. But yeah,
00:45:02
that's that's fair. Yeah.
00:45:03
>> You know what really pisses me off about
00:45:05
this delay? >> What?
00:45:06
>> That I've been doing a good job of keep
00:45:08
putting it out of my head that oh, GTA 6
00:45:11
is delayed. Like, okay, whatever. No big
00:45:13
deal. I like forget about it. I go about
00:45:14
my life, live happily ever after. And
00:45:17
then they announce that they're delaying
00:45:19
it again and remind me that it's
00:45:20
delayed. And I was like, I was fine
00:45:22
before. So, you're looking forward to
00:45:23
it. >> Oh, I'm buying this game.
00:45:24
>> Oh, really?
00:45:25
>> Yeah. I I hope it's not over $100 more
00:45:28
cuz don't put that in.
00:45:29
>> It has been a [clears throat] How long
00:45:30
has it been since the last one?
00:45:32
>> 15 years or something.
00:45:33
>> I have to guess cuz my sister's husband
00:45:37
when he was in college apparently
00:45:39
skipped a bunch of classes when he
00:45:40
bought
00:45:41
>> when the last one came out to play it
00:45:43
and in the process of playing it got his
00:45:45
car stolen. [laughter]
00:45:48
>> Life.
00:45:50
>> That's amazing. Um, but yeah, so I I
00:45:52
think it'll be, you know, something
00:45:55
similar happened with Cyberpunk where
00:45:56
they delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed,
00:45:57
and then it came out and it was
00:45:59
>> it had some issues. Um, and it got
00:46:02
scrutinized to all hell because
00:46:04
partially because of how much it got
00:46:05
delayed. So,
00:46:06
>> this thing better be polished. Um, I am
00:46:08
interested. We just saw Silkong come out
00:46:11
and make a bunch of games push outside.
00:46:14
This feels like this is going to be like
00:46:15
the
00:46:16
>> whatever top tier Oh, yeah. gaming
00:46:19
version of that like uh
00:46:21
>> big big company doing it where I would
00:46:23
not doubt if some companies plan to come
00:46:25
out next fall and are like just kidding
00:46:27
GTA
00:46:28
>> I think there was a bunch of people that
00:46:30
changed their release dates like a bunch
00:46:31
of companies >> for Silkong or
00:46:32
>> no for already for this
00:46:34
>> no and they changed it because they
00:46:35
thought it was coming out at a certain
00:46:37
time and now this is happening they're
00:46:38
like scrambling like oh my god we got to
00:46:40
change it again [laughter]
00:46:41
>> I saw a tweet that said like when you
00:46:42
got your wife pregnant to time it
00:46:44
perfectly with the GTA [laughter]
00:46:46
>> and then they delay
00:46:48
paternity. That's brutal.
00:46:51
>> Damn.
00:46:52
>> You know what's funny? Um, the last GTA
00:46:55
came out in 2013. It's been delayed
00:46:57
twice. The last Street Manifesto album
00:46:59
came out in 2013 and it's been delayed
00:47:01
twice. Which one's going to come out
00:47:02
first, baby? We'll find out. That's a
00:47:04
new Poly Market. [laughter]
00:47:07
>> Polyark. Yeah, it's going to be GTA or
00:47:09
Street Manifesto. We'll see.
00:47:10
>> This is not financial advice.
00:47:12
>> No. And we do not endorse Poly Market
00:47:14
[laughter] or delaying
00:47:15
>> or Street Manifesto. I do. Speaking of
00:47:18
Australia Manifesto, because it's music,
00:47:20
Spotify,
00:47:21
>> as we know, every year does the big
00:47:23
wrapped thing. Uh Spotify creating their
00:47:26
wrapped thing has really made every
00:47:28
other company in the world decide to
00:47:30
look at all your data
00:47:31
>> except YouTube.
00:47:32
>> You Well,
00:47:33
>> well,
00:47:34
>> yeah.
00:47:35
>> Well,
00:47:37
>> YouTube Google does everything too early
00:47:39
and too cringe. And because of that,
00:47:42
they just they can never come back. You
00:47:44
know, it's like social media. Too early.
00:47:46
Little too cringe.
00:47:48
>> Um
00:47:49
>> glasses too early. Too cringe. So
00:47:52
Spotify now is thinking of doing a new
00:47:56
>> Oh, it's out. >> Oh, it's out. Yeah,
00:47:58
>> they thought about it and then they
00:47:59
[laughter] did it a weekly rap where
00:48:03
they release your listening stats. So
00:48:06
now you can just click on an icon and it
00:48:07
is right there in the dropown menu. It
00:48:09
shows you your top five artists and top
00:48:11
five songs of the week. And then each of
00:48:13
those lists has some more like your top
00:48:15
song suggestions under that. So it's
00:48:18
kind of like your release radar in a
00:48:20
way. It's sort of just like I don't
00:48:23
know, it's telling you what you were
00:48:24
listening to and then giving you
00:48:25
suggestions. Cuz I think the number one
00:48:27
complaint about Spotify and probably
00:48:29
most music streaming services at this
00:48:30
point is that you just get trapped in
00:48:32
this little circular algorithm of
00:48:34
artists that are kind of like each other
00:48:35
and that just suggest them constantly in
00:48:38
a circle forever until the end of time.
00:48:39
>> It depends on what type of artist they
00:48:41
are. Sometimes if you're in like a more
00:48:42
niche artist and then they're only
00:48:44
connected to a few other niche ones,
00:48:45
then you get in a circle. But if you're
00:48:46
in like you have to like find the
00:48:49
biggest spoke that has the most outside
00:48:52
connection and then you like slingshot
00:48:53
out via that [laughter] artist Demon
00:48:56
Hunters. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of.
00:48:58
>> Anyway. Yeah. Go on.
00:48:59
>> That's pretty much it. That's what it
00:49:01
is. >> That's what it is. But Andrew have any
00:49:02
interesting
00:49:03
>> Andrew wanted us to share our top
00:49:05
>> I think we should all share our top five
00:49:06
songs. You should also go back to last
00:49:08
week because it it continues. It sets it
00:49:11
up into weeks. So, right now, the
00:49:12
current week is only one day old.
00:49:14
>> This is like useless to me because
00:49:16
>> I'm one of those psychos that listens to
00:49:18
the same thing constantly for like a
00:49:20
week.
00:49:21
>> Same. Oh, yeah. Well, do you So, are you
00:49:24
I have a feeling we're the same type of
00:49:26
Spotify listener.
00:49:27
>> You like have two or three songs that
00:49:28
you just found that you you repeat
00:49:30
through them over and over and over
00:49:31
again until you're sick of them and then
00:49:33
you find three new ones and then that's
00:49:34
the rotation. And then when you go back
00:49:36
and find the last three, it reminds you
00:49:38
of the time. Oh, what what a time that
00:49:40
was.
00:49:41
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's
00:49:42
>> No, I'm the same way.
00:49:43
>> Yeah, I've been I have a song that I've
00:49:45
been listening to by Feed Me so much in
00:49:47
the past month. I am very confident it's
00:49:50
going to be one of the top songs of the
00:49:51
year for me.
00:49:52
>> Like very confident.
00:49:54
>> What is it [clears throat] called?
00:49:55
>> Uh the song is called Stop Motion
00:49:58
>> by Feed Me.
00:49:59
>> By Feed Me.
00:50:00
>> Feed me.
00:50:01
>> This is Every time we do this, I realize
00:50:02
I probably have the worst taste of music
00:50:04
that I've ever [clears throat]
00:50:05
>> So yeah, Feed Me was my number one
00:50:06
artist. [laughter] There's nothing wrong
00:50:08
with Bruce Spring.
00:50:09
>> There's nothing wrong with anything.
00:50:10
>> Yeah, that that's a surprise to me.
00:50:13
>> The Mountain Goats and then Adaba Boy,
00:50:15
which nobody knows.
00:50:17
>> And then Parcels, but it's down because
00:50:19
it was five weeks in my top five cuz
00:50:21
they had a new album that came out that
00:50:22
was fire.
00:50:23
>> Five weeks in your top five?
00:50:24
>> Yeah. >> Wow.
00:50:26
>> Oh, yeah. >> I tend to if there's a new if there's a
00:50:29
new artist that I find, I listen to
00:50:30
their discoraphy non-stop for three
00:50:32
months until I hate them.
00:50:34
>> And you just pick it. [laughter]
00:50:36
Okay.
00:50:37
>> And then you get like one week of
00:50:38
someone else and then you probably dive
00:50:39
back in.
00:50:40
>> Yes, that's exactly what it does.
00:50:41
>> We have similar listening patterns.
00:50:43
>> Yeah. Uh and then two artists that I
00:50:45
don't listen to but I think keep getting
00:50:47
suggested and autoplay after the
00:50:49
mountain goats [laughter] play.
00:50:51
>> Nice. >> So,
00:50:52
>> okay. >> They had a new album come out this week,
00:50:54
too. That was fire. So,
00:50:55
>> what you got, Ellis? I know you got
00:50:56
something fun.
00:50:57
>> I I'm confused, man. I I guess mine
00:51:01
>> don't go to the the current week just
00:51:04
because like it's only like one day.
00:51:05
>> I listen to music in like a ton of
00:51:07
different ways. Like I have Spotify. I
00:51:09
have a CD player and a tape player at
00:51:10
home. I've been listening to a lot of
00:51:11
music on YouTube.
00:51:12
>> What the hell is a tape player?
00:51:14
[laughter]
00:51:16
>> Oh, that's that thing with the you take
00:51:17
it out and you flip it. Oh, I know what
00:51:19
that is.
00:51:20
>> No, you're right. I know what that is.
00:51:22
>> Yeah, [laughter] you're you're right,
00:51:23
Ellis.
00:51:24
>> We're so old, Ellis.
00:51:27
>> Damn. Leave it to Dallas to be like,
00:51:28
"Hey, what's an artist you listen to?"
00:51:30
Well,
00:51:31
>> here's all of the ways I listen to
00:51:33
>> See, I can do that on the street Tik Tok
00:51:35
and the Give me an apartment tour on the
00:51:37
street Tik Tok at the same time, you
00:51:39
know? It's just efficient. No. So, I'm
00:51:41
really confused because half of these
00:51:42
songs I I don't even know, which mean I
00:51:45
think it was like they algorithmically
00:51:47
played once and because I use Spotify so
00:51:49
little. >> That's what happened to me.
00:51:50
>> So, I have uh my top artist is John Col
00:51:53
Train, which I don't remember listening
00:51:55
to John Col Train that week. My uh my
00:51:59
top song is Lean for Real by Playboy
00:52:02
Cardi. Another song I don't know. Um
00:52:06
and then the rest is just Shade, which
00:52:08
checks out.
00:52:09
>> Nice.
00:52:10
>> Number one, New Jobs. I don't know how
00:52:12
to pronounce it.
00:52:13
>> Is this artist or top songs?
00:52:15
>> New job, Sea of Cloud. Number two, Lupe
00:52:18
Fiasco, the Cool.
00:52:19
>> Force of Nature, Death Wish. Number
00:52:21
three, Golden. Number four, we already
00:52:24
know the top five. And then Daniel,
00:52:27
>> what's Golden Jurassic 5?
00:52:29
>> No, it's Golden Hop Demon Hunter.
00:52:32
>> It's high replay value.
00:52:33
>> It's the main song. I'm telling you,
00:52:35
>> it's been in my top five for multiple
00:52:37
weeks apparently.
00:52:38
>> Sorry, what was the fifth one?
00:52:39
>> Uh Jack's Lament, Nightmare Before
00:52:41
Christmas as a song cuz it was
00:52:42
Halloween.
00:52:43
>> Sounds like you're going up up up to the
00:52:44
top, Adam.
00:52:45
>> Got nice.
00:52:46
>> Got to be.
00:52:47
>> Mine's all over the place. I have
00:52:49
Rosalita by Bruce Springsteen. Great
00:52:51
song. M
00:52:52
>> No Broke Boys by Disco Lines and Tanach
00:52:55
cuz Lane and I dance to that song all
00:52:58
the time. >> Don't blame your daughter.
00:52:59
>> It's so good. Have you heard that song?
00:53:01
It's really good.
00:53:02
>> Andrew's definitely on the way home.
00:53:03
[laughter]
00:53:04
>> It's a kid song called No Broke.
00:53:05
>> No, it's not a kid. It is not a kids
00:53:07
song.
00:53:08
>> Okay.
00:53:09
>> Good. >> Uh I want to get better by bleachers.
00:53:11
All falls down by Alan Walker and
00:53:12
Dramaree by Dead Mouse.
00:53:14
>> Nice. >> Where's our teas?
00:53:15
>> Dramafree by Oh, is that new?
00:53:17
>> Uh it's new word. You definitely know
00:53:19
it. It's a few years old though, I
00:53:20
think. H
00:53:21
>> I don't know if I've heard of that song.
00:53:23
>> You have?
00:53:24
>> Sounds like we all listen to completely
00:53:25
different music.
00:53:27
>> It's kind of >> Sometimes our studio blend is just
00:53:29
insane.
00:53:31
>> Yeah, we haven't been on it for a while.
00:53:33
>> I haven't looked at it.
00:53:34
>> David, did you listen to my cool music
00:53:35
playlist I sent you? The YouTube link.
00:53:37
>> Not yet.
00:53:38
>> Cool. [laughter]
00:53:41
>> Well, you sent it to me and then I
00:53:42
didn't work at my apartment for a while.
00:53:44
So,
00:53:45
>> got it.
00:53:46
>> All right. >> You know, he only has internet in his
00:53:48
apartment. >> Let's do two. Do you want to do the ER?
00:53:51
Okay. So,
00:53:52
>> check it out. >> Last two week three.
00:53:55
>> Actually, before I just want to say it's
00:53:56
actually pronounced. So,
00:53:58
>> Oh, I ink.
00:54:00
>> Ink. E in.
00:54:01
>> Ink. All right. So, a a few weeks ago,
00:54:05
>> we Andrew and I got very giddy about
00:54:07
this new e- in Aura frame. Um, and
00:54:11
because ENC is a very cool technology,
00:54:12
we're super excited about it. They
00:54:14
actually sent us over a couple of them,
00:54:16
which is very cool. So they sent us like
00:54:19
their normal frames which are you know
00:54:21
screens outdated technology. Let's bring
00:54:25
it back.
00:54:26
>> Liquid >> but now we have actual ink.
00:54:29
>> So
00:54:30
>> well yeah it's still
00:54:32
>> electronic ink.
00:54:33
>> Electronic ink. So this I'm going to try
00:54:35
to show this without too much glare.
00:54:37
From far away it probably looks pretty
00:54:39
good. And like up close it kind of looks
00:54:40
like a half te kind of look.
00:54:42
>> Yeah. I'm like four feet away or
00:54:44
something and it looks like a photo in a
00:54:45
photo. Yeah, it kind of looks like a
00:54:47
photo, but I want to show you what
00:54:48
happens when you change out the picture.
00:54:50
>> It's for audio listeners,
00:54:52
>> it's really convincing from a few feet
00:54:54
away. It's one of those things where you
00:54:55
unbox it and you put your first picture
00:54:57
in and you're sitting right next to
00:54:58
you're like, "Oh man, this looks pretty
00:55:00
bad. >> Are you ready?"
00:55:01
>> And then about when you change the
00:55:03
picture, which this is only supposed to
00:55:04
do at [clears throat] night,
00:55:06
>> it just for like 20 seconds flashes like
00:55:09
crazy. It hasn't started. Oh, wait. No,
00:55:11
now it's start.
00:55:12
>> Okay. It just flashes because I think
00:55:14
it's changing all the Yeah, it's moving
00:55:17
it all around and changing all the
00:55:18
different areas. So, you'll see like
00:55:20
part of the picture will stop flashing
00:55:21
and then other parts will keep going.
00:55:23
>> If you've used a Kindle before, you've
00:55:25
seen this effect in some version, which
00:55:27
is like you turn the page and it flashes
00:55:29
and it it brings the new text into
00:55:31
effect. This is just doing it with color
00:55:33
and with way more detail.
00:55:35
>> Yeah. So, I've tried a lot of different
00:55:38
photos with this. I really like it. Um,
00:55:40
it looks it kind of looks like pixel art
00:55:43
where if you're far enough away, it
00:55:45
looks like regular art, but when you get
00:55:46
up close to it, it's kind of like this
00:55:47
half te pixely thing.
00:55:48
>> Yeah.
00:55:49
>> I will say it's not very good with black
00:55:51
and white photos. I will show a black
00:55:53
and white photo on it because it kind of
00:55:56
like adds the sepia look to it cuz it's
00:55:59
like not good at doing true blacks.
00:56:00
>> It's not perfectly black. That's very
00:56:02
>> Yeah. So, it has a sort of like yellow
00:56:04
cast. I think that it mixes in some of
00:56:06
the yellow beads with the black beads.
00:56:08
Um, I'm not sure why.
00:56:09
>> This is one of those pieces of
00:56:10
technologies that I cannot get behind
00:56:12
for this specific use case because it
00:56:14
feels very Adam.
00:56:15
>> Oops, I accidentally did it sideway.
00:56:17
>> If you just spin it, it should
00:56:19
>> Oh, does it automatically, but then it
00:56:20
has to
00:56:21
>> There's no auto rotate.
00:56:22
>> Well, it does have auto rotate, but it
00:56:24
just like needs to re flash again.
00:56:27
>> I should have done it.
00:56:28
>> It's cool. One thing we forgot to
00:56:29
mention the first time around is this is
00:56:31
$500. This is like a new thing they're
00:56:34
doing. Um, it is very expensive. It's
00:56:37
rotating. It's Oh, is it rotating?
00:56:39
>> I've been enjoying it so far. I think
00:56:41
the ultimate test will be now that the
00:56:42
holidays are coming up, I have it hung
00:56:44
up. I'm interested to see how many
00:56:46
family members walk by it and if they
00:56:48
like notice that there's something off
00:56:50
about it [clears throat]
00:56:51
>> or if they just think it's another
00:56:52
picture frame.
00:56:54
>> So, it's like pretty No, it's doing it
00:56:56
again. >> I don't think anyone's going to notice.
00:56:58
I think it's fine. The issue that I have
00:57:00
with something like this is part of the
00:57:02
to me part of the point of taking
00:57:04
pictures and printing them out is to
00:57:07
like hand them out or in a hundred years
00:57:10
find it in my attic or you know like
00:57:12
those moments are kind of
00:57:13
>> you can find this in your attic. It's e
00:57:15
in
00:57:16
>> like a e in [laughter] display with no
00:57:19
picture or memory on it
00:57:20
>> else it would have a picture on it
00:57:21
>> in a 100 years.
00:57:22
>> Yeah.
00:57:23
>> You don't think the battery would
00:57:24
explode? >> It doesn't matter.
00:57:25
>> I don't think you need to.
00:57:26
>> It's like an etch. It's getting set. It
00:57:28
is like an Etcher sketch. It won't erase
00:57:30
it.
00:57:31
>> Yeah, but when that thing's a big spicy
00:57:32
pillow.
00:57:33
>> I don't know how much.
00:57:35
>> I think you don't have to pick one or
00:57:36
the other though. Like I still plan on
00:57:38
>> $500.
00:57:39
>> I'm not going to not all my I don't have
00:57:42
one photo in my house though. Like I'm
00:57:43
not going to pay $500 for every photo to
00:57:46
be an ink when I'm going to have photos
00:57:48
and art set up. But like
00:57:49
>> it's nice to have one that's a rotating
00:57:51
one cuz you can't put every picture you
00:57:53
ever take up on the wall. It also has
00:57:54
like the app has like positioning and
00:57:56
you can zoom in and you can make it cuz
00:57:58
right now it has a little bit of a black
00:57:59
border but you can see it it's not good
00:58:01
at true black and white like it adds
00:58:02
like a sepia look and when I like this
00:58:05
is a 35mm shot and when I bring it into
00:58:07
the dark room and do actual dark room
00:58:09
printing those blacks are inky as heck
00:58:11
and more inky than this
00:58:13
>> but uh you know I think for the colors
00:58:15
it's quite nice and I'm very excited to
00:58:17
put it up and just have it cycle through
00:58:19
some pictures because I think that's
00:58:20
gonna be super cool. 500 is a lot, but
00:58:23
it is one of the first things that does
00:58:25
this. Obviously, this has been like my
00:58:27
dream forever. So, the technology will
00:58:30
get cheaper eventually. You know, photo
00:58:32
frames in general are really cheap now.
00:58:35
I mean, the Aura ones are not, but
00:58:37
that's because they're like ultra high
00:58:38
resolution. You can share, they have all
00:58:40
these features, whatever. But if you
00:58:42
want just like a a cheap photo frame,
00:58:44
you can get one of those for insanely
00:58:46
cheap. So, I'm hoping that this
00:58:47
technology catches on and it becomes,
00:58:49
you know, better. they get more ink
00:58:51
blotches and you can do more true
00:58:52
blacks. I think that would be nice.
00:58:54
>> Yeah. I guess the advantage of it is
00:58:56
like because you can get a digital
00:58:57
picture frame that rotates through and
00:58:59
it's not e- in it looks fine. But
00:59:02
>> this one can kind of look more like a
00:59:05
print. >> Well, and this one also has a battery
00:59:08
that can last 3 months. So, you can hang
00:59:09
it on the wall without hiding a wire and
00:59:12
then just charge it like your Nest
00:59:14
doorbell where you just take it off,
00:59:15
charge it for a couple hours every 3
00:59:17
months. And all the battery really does
00:59:19
is allow it to change photos and then
00:59:20
have the little light in it that kind of
00:59:22
illuminates it because it needs a little
00:59:24
bit of light. >> Back light. Yeah.
00:59:25
>> Well, it's a front light.
00:59:26
>> A front light, not behind it, but yeah,
00:59:28
that helps you see it.
00:59:29
>> But like if it dies, it'll just stay
00:59:31
static on whatever the last image is. So
00:59:33
that's also fine, you know.
00:59:34
>> Cool.
00:59:35
>> Yeah. So I don't know. I think it's
00:59:37
cool.
00:59:38
>> I like it. >> I think it's cool. I'm enjoying it. I I
00:59:39
want to hang it up and see what it does.
00:59:41
>> I am being a grump on this. I do not I'm
00:59:44
very wellelmed. I hope you feel good
00:59:46
about being wrong, Adam.
00:59:48
>> Um, cool.
00:59:49
>> Well,
00:59:50
>> all right. Well, I took this morning
00:59:52
since it was This is There's no segue
00:59:55
here. I'm just jumping right into the
00:59:56
next. >> Okay.
00:59:57
>> Um, not very.
00:59:58
>> Well, it's funny because I had this the
01:00:00
segue written for this and then I messed
01:00:02
up the order of everything. I was going
01:00:04
to say, speaking of wrapped,
01:00:05
>> smartphone season's wrapped. Anyways, I
01:00:07
thought it's
01:00:08
>> a worse segue when you have to go back
01:00:10
>> talking about rap or something. Um, I
01:00:11
just decided that now that TechTember
01:00:13
and Techtober have ended and we're kind
01:00:15
of in our slower season, I wanted to
01:00:17
pull some numbers from the main channel
01:00:19
because we just wrapped up smartphone
01:00:21
season. So, I took August 1st to October
01:00:24
31st. That really feels like when all
01:00:26
the big phones come out and these
01:00:28
numbers are pretty awesome. These are
01:00:30
all just from main channel. So, we had 1
01:00:33
million or 115,800,000
01:00:36
long form views, 11,100,000
01:00:39
long form watch hours, 85 million short
01:00:42
form views, 783,000 watch hours short
01:00:45
form. Um, despite four of our top four
01:00:49
five videos being shorts, the number one
01:00:51
video was actually a long form. So, our
01:00:53
most viewed video in this wasn't a
01:00:55
short, it was a long form with 13
01:00:57
million views
01:00:58
>> um was the iPhone 17 Pro and Air
01:01:00
impressions.
01:01:02
>> That one looks really good.
01:01:03
>> Awesome.
01:01:04
>> That one's really good.
01:01:06
>> Baby, put the frame down.
01:01:07
>> It looks so cool. Look at how cool it
01:01:09
looks.
01:01:10
>> Our top five long form videos. iPhone 17
01:01:12
Pro and Air impressions. iPhone 17 Pro
01:01:14
Air unboxing. Meta Ray-B band display
01:01:16
glasses. AirPods 3 Pro review. Xiaomi 17
01:01:20
Pro Max. M um some other notable things,
01:01:24
unboxing the $40,000 sealed OG iPhone
01:01:27
got 750,000 views in the last 90 days.
01:01:31
>> Um that video is 2 years old.
01:01:33
>> Yeah.
01:01:34
>> Um also the reviewing every Samsung
01:01:36
Galaxy video had 700,000 views in the
01:01:38
last 3 months. That's from March 2024.
01:01:41
>> And then only two videos the whole month
01:01:44
didn't hit 3 million or the whole time
01:01:46
span. So last three months didn't hit 3
01:01:48
million views which is top five sports
01:01:50
tech and investigating the Tesla robo
01:01:52
taxi 1.4 million and 2.9 million views.
01:01:55
>> The average view between those 16 videos
01:01:58
in last 3 months was 5.7 million.
01:02:01
>> Jeez. >> So that we cooks
01:02:04
>> the last smartphone seasons was crazy
01:02:06
and busy and it feels weird now that
01:02:08
it's like slowing down. by
01:02:10
>> my favorite stat usually is just like
01:02:12
taking the number of watch hours and
01:02:14
converting that into years of human life
01:02:16
that have been [snorts] wiped from this
01:02:18
planet.
01:02:19
>> Um so just for context
01:02:21
>> we're the reason Toy Story 5 is making
01:02:23
the tablet. [laughter] >> Well, so you can either read it as in
01:02:26
total everyone watching the videos uh in
01:02:29
short form just the short form videos.
01:02:32
Oh
01:02:34
>> that's only short form.
01:02:36
>> Wait for which ones? 783,000 watch hours
01:02:39
was just short. >> It was only short for videos.
01:02:41
>> Oh my god. Okay. Wait, that's even
01:02:43
better. Okay.
01:02:44
>> Oh my god.
01:02:45
>> So 783,000
01:02:47
watch hours total spread amongst all the
01:02:50
people who have been watching all the
01:02:51
shorts that we uploaded that were viewed
01:02:53
during the month.
01:02:55
>> You can think of or during the three
01:02:56
months. You can think of it as that or
01:02:58
you can think of it as one person
01:03:00
watching all of our shorts for 89 years
01:03:04
straight. God,
01:03:05
>> kids know what that's like. [laughter]
01:03:08
>> Watching Minecraft anymore.
01:03:10
>> That is so much.
01:03:11
>> Do you want to know how many years of
01:03:13
long form it's been?
01:03:14
>> Yeah, I didn't even Okay, so that by
01:03:16
>> How long is that for a long form?
01:03:17
>> It would be 1,272
01:03:20
years.
01:03:21
>> Oh, that's just not even possible for a
01:03:23
human. That's >> I beg to differ.
01:03:24
>> That's longer than the Earth. Have
01:03:25
>> you heard of Brian Johnson?
01:03:28
>> 1,000 years of watch time is crazy for
01:03:32
three months. Yeah, but isn't that
01:03:34
crazy? You could just watch shorts for
01:03:36
89 years straight and it still wouldn't
01:03:38
have equal the amount. [laughter]
01:03:40
>> Marquez, by display logic, it's 1.5K
01:03:43
years. >> Oh god,
01:03:44
>> I hate that even more.
01:03:45
>> That's right.
01:03:46
>> Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so that is Hey,
01:03:48
that's thanks to you guys. So, shout out
01:03:49
to you guys for watching the videos and
01:03:52
uh you know, you say it's slowing down,
01:03:53
Andrew, but it's still it's still going.
01:03:55
>> We just talked about a sock as the top
01:03:57
>> That's fair.
01:03:58
>> In our defense, that was the top
01:04:00
[laughter] two. >> I know. That's what I'm saying. We're
01:04:02
slowing down. OnePlus 15, trifold,
01:04:05
random other stuff's happening still.
01:04:06
Like, we're almost in simmering down.
01:04:09
And then the smartphone awards are
01:04:10
coming up. And like we're we're kind of
01:04:12
still in the thick of it. But hey,
01:04:15
>> hey. >> All right.
01:04:16
>> All right. >> We have one more segment that we want to
01:04:19
do, which is overhyped or underhyped.
01:04:22
>> Should we do that after the ad break?
01:04:23
>> Yes.
01:04:24
>> Yeah. >> Then let's do trivia.
01:04:26
>> Trivia. It's trivia. We're doing
01:04:30
>> trivia. So earlier in the episode, we
01:04:33
were talking about tech brands that have
01:04:35
done hype beast collabs with fashion
01:04:37
brands. So I have a question for you.
01:04:40
Bathing Ape and Stash.
01:04:43
>> Bathing Ape.
01:04:44
>> Bathing Ape. Bape. Bathing Ape.
01:04:45
>> He's an F1 driver.
01:04:47
>> No. >> That's what Bape is.
01:04:50
>> Bathing Ape. >> Can I look it up?
01:04:51
>> No.
01:04:52
>> They once collabed with which famous
01:04:55
camera brand to launch a custom camera?
01:04:59
Bathing Ape and Stash.
01:05:00
>> The Tea Company.
01:05:02
>> Stash.
01:05:03
>> American visual artist Stash aka Josh
01:05:06
Franklin.
01:05:07
>> Okay.
01:05:08
>> I'm more confused.
01:05:09
>> It's [laughter] just he's an artist.
01:05:10
>> Okay. And
01:05:11
>> they made a camera.
01:05:12
>> They collabed to make a camera with
01:05:15
which company?
01:05:16
>> Okay. >> It's called the Stash Bape camera, which
01:05:19
reminds me of uh Pap.
01:05:21
>> If you're a hype brand, you don't need
01:05:23
to name things.
01:05:25
>> It's awesome. That's a crazy
01:05:26
>> what Sony should be a hype company and
01:05:27
stop naming things.
01:05:29
>> One time when I was like a teenager, I
01:05:31
woke up in the morning and I met my dad
01:05:34
in the kitchen. He was like drinking
01:05:35
coffee and I saw him like pick up a
01:05:37
newspaper and there it was the LA Times
01:05:39
and there was a feature story about the
01:05:41
rapper Earl Sweatshirt
01:05:43
and my dad picked it up and I just see
01:05:46
he's like still waking up no coffee. He
01:05:47
goes, he says out loud, "Odd futures
01:05:51
Earl's sweatshirt." And he just puts the
01:05:53
paper down and looks at me and goes,
01:05:55
"What the does that mean?" [laughter]
01:05:59
Which is exactly how Stash came.
01:06:03
>> Hilarious.
01:06:04
>> All right.
01:06:05
>> Yeah. All right. Well, we're definitely
01:06:07
going to learn something this episode.
01:06:09
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>> Welcome back. It is time for
01:10:08
hypothetically speaking, everyone's
01:10:09
favorite segment where we have to decide
01:10:11
if something is overhyped, underhyped,
01:10:14
and the three hosts get one perfectly
01:10:16
hyped.
01:10:17
>> Oh yeah. So
01:10:18
>> I'm using on the first thing. [snorts]
01:10:20
>> The first thing. Okay, here we go. First
01:10:21
thing bubble soap candy. [laughter]
01:10:25
>> Hyped.
01:10:27
>> Overhyped or underhyped?
01:10:29
>> Okay. >> GTA 6.
01:10:31
>> Well, we can't.
01:10:32
>> How are we supposed to know that?
01:10:33
>> Well, that's it. clearly very very
01:10:36
hyped.
01:10:37
>> We will be guessing on if it's over or
01:10:39
underhyped based on what we think the
01:10:41
game will actually be.
01:10:42
>> I don't know if it's possible to know
01:10:44
that. >> You could use your perfectly hyped.
01:10:46
Marquette said he was going to use his
01:10:47
perfect. >> The thing is, okay, the thing is when
01:10:49
something is that hyped, it's basically
01:10:51
impossible to live up to the hype.
01:10:52
>> Yeah.
01:10:53
>> So, I think we would be safely probably
01:10:54
correct if we said overhyped.
01:10:56
>> I I would agree with that.
01:10:57
>> Like, when has a game ever been this
01:10:59
hyped and lived up to it? Breath of the
01:11:01
Wild.
01:11:02
>> Was that not nearly as This is one of
01:11:04
the most The trailer for it was one of
01:11:06
the most viewed YouTube videos of the
01:11:09
year of all time.
01:11:10
>> That's crazy.
01:11:12
>> There's just so there's no way living
01:11:14
the hype. >> I mean, between those three options, I'd
01:11:16
probably say overhyped.
01:11:17
>> I'd say overhyped. I was going to be
01:11:18
meaner about it.
01:11:20
>> Same game, new city.
01:11:21
>> Wow.
01:11:23
>> I don't even know if that's true.
01:11:25
[laughter] >> New city. We don't know if it's the same
01:11:26
game, but it's basically
01:11:27
>> Where is it? Is it set in Miami?
01:11:29
>> It's in Florida, not Miami. It's a It's
01:11:30
supposedly
01:11:31
>> just I wish it was just other cities in
01:11:33
Florida. [laughter]
01:11:35
>> It's an Orlando.
01:11:36
>> It's at Disney World.
01:11:39
>> Never mind. Under hypes.
01:11:41
>> Original soundtrack by Florida Georgia
01:11:43
Line. [laughter]
01:11:44
>> What's that place where they have all
01:11:46
the boats where Below Deck is based? Um
01:11:50
>> what is Blank Stairs across the
01:11:52
>> Wait, guys. There's two trailers.
01:11:54
There's a trailer from a year ago with
01:11:55
268 million views and then they did
01:11:58
another trailer 6 months later which got
01:12:00
another 139 million views. There's no
01:12:02
way it lives up to this hype. There's no
01:12:03
shot.
01:12:04
>> I don't know, man. But what if it does?
01:12:05
>> GTA 5 is like one of the most sold games
01:12:07
of all time.
01:12:08
>> If it does live up to the hype, we'll
01:12:10
come back to this episode and give it an
01:12:11
underhyped or perfectly hyped. But as of
01:12:13
right now, there's just shave his head.
01:12:16
>> A better shot. It's overhyped.
01:12:17
>> Yeah, it's definitely overhyped.
01:12:18
>> I'll just say overhyped.
01:12:19
>> All right, so overhyped for GTA 6. All
01:12:22
right, the next one is
01:12:26
teenage engineering. [laughter]
01:12:32
So, I've only ever used one teenage
01:12:36
engineering product in my life, and that
01:12:40
is >> the recorder. >> The microphone. The recorder.
01:12:42
>> What about the actual recorder that Hugo
01:12:44
like brought us?
01:12:46
>> Oh, I don't think >> cuz that's different from the
01:12:47
microphone.
01:12:48
>> I use the I have the microphone at home.
01:12:51
The microphone's good though, right?
01:12:52
>> So, the microphone is not very hyped,
01:12:54
but it is $1,200.
01:12:58
>> Yeah. >> So, if we're talking overpriced or
01:13:00
underpriced, it is overpriced. Priced
01:13:03
>> for sure.
01:13:05
>> Microphones are expensive.
01:13:06
>> Microphones get really expensive.
01:13:08
Microphones that sound as good as that
01:13:11
microphone get way more expensive than
01:13:13
that microphone. And I really appreciate
01:13:15
that microphones that tend to be more
01:13:17
expensive and higher quality than the
01:13:19
Teenage Engineering mic
01:13:21
>> tend to be a little bit harder to use.
01:13:23
I'm not saying it's not expensive, but
01:13:26
I'm saying every time you take that mic
01:13:28
home and record a video on it, I go,
01:13:30
"Hot diggity, what was what was that
01:13:32
recorded on?" And you go, "The Teenage
01:13:34
Engineering mic." And I go,
01:13:37
>> you know,
01:13:38
>> okay, I mean, it's good. It's the only
01:13:41
Teenage Engineering product I use.
01:13:44
>> You've used products designed by Teenage
01:13:45
Engineering before.
01:13:47
>> Oh, that's in collaboration.
01:13:48
>> The R1, the Nothing Phones.
01:13:50
>> That's fair.
01:13:51
>> What about this $250 toy car?
01:13:55
>> Apparently, it's awesome. [laughter]
01:13:59
>> I want to use my perfectly hyped on this
01:14:01
because I feel like every time you get
01:14:03
in a Teenage Engineering product, it's
01:14:05
just so freaking awesome. Like, they're
01:14:07
so freaking cool. And they like did
01:14:09
create an aesthetic that everyone has
01:14:12
been trying to copy forever. Like
01:14:13
nothing is basically just trying to copy
01:14:15
that >> more than I thought they did.
01:14:16
>> They make a lot of stuff. Um, however,
01:14:20
>> however, I do think people buy their
01:14:22
products like Adam did a whole video on
01:14:24
this about how,
01:14:27
you know, they they intentionally limit
01:14:29
the capabilities of their products so
01:14:31
they feel more like toys so that you
01:14:33
experiment with them more, but you're
01:14:34
not actually using them for real
01:14:35
production. Even if they they could
01:14:38
allow you to use it for real production
01:14:41
>> and it would be incredible, but they
01:14:42
don't on purpose because they want you
01:14:44
to be more experimental, which makes me
01:14:47
want to say it's overhyped only because
01:14:49
people think that you can use them like
01:14:52
a real sampler, like a real MIDI
01:14:54
keyboard, that kind of stuff.
01:14:57
>> But that's my only reason. Otherwise, I
01:14:59
think it's perfectly hyped.
01:15:00
>> Also, quick clarification, that video
01:15:01
never got made. Oh, Adam almost made a
01:15:04
whole video about
01:15:05
>> That was right before we changed the
01:15:06
whole strategy for studio.
01:15:08
>> Oh,
01:15:09
>> really?
01:15:10
>> You showed me a cut of that.
01:15:12
>> Yeah. >> Wow. [laughter]
01:15:13
>> Just put on your Just put on your
01:15:15
YouTube channel.
01:15:16
>> You've used more Teen Engineering
01:15:18
products than I think anyone else I
01:15:19
know.
01:15:20
>> Oh, don't try to spin this around on me.
01:15:21
>> So, I'm just wondering [laughter] you're
01:15:23
a reference for us. if you have an
01:15:26
opinion on it.
01:15:28
[sighs]
01:15:29
>> I have a hard time saying if it's
01:15:30
overhyped or underhyped because I think
01:15:33
they they are the hype.
01:15:35
>> They like like people are excited for
01:15:37
their things and they know what they're
01:15:38
getting. I don't think they're they're
01:15:39
not like scamming anyone.
01:15:40
>> That's why I'm saying I think they're
01:15:41
perfectly hyped.
01:15:42
>> It might be. Yeah.
01:15:43
>> I think this might be our perfectly
01:15:44
hyped.
01:15:46
>> I think they are a singular entity.
01:15:48
>> Nobody has People have tried to copy
01:15:50
them and nobody's done it correctly.
01:15:51
>> And they're not going around like trying
01:15:52
to build their own hype, right? They're
01:15:54
just like, "We make our stuff. People
01:15:55
like it."
01:15:57
>> They release weird stuff, too. It's like
01:15:58
always out of left field.
01:16:00
>> I think then that specifically makes it
01:16:02
appropriately hyped. If it's all organic
01:16:04
hype and it's for people who know what
01:16:06
it is and what they're getting,
01:16:08
>> then I say we spend our perfectly hyped.
01:16:10
>> Yeah. Let's spend our perfectly hyped on
01:16:11
the wooden box orchestra people.
01:16:14
>> $250 each, [laughter]
01:16:16
>> but it'll be the best wooden box
01:16:17
orchestra person you've ever held. The
01:16:19
benefit of this is that nobody hyped
01:16:21
this product, but they made it anyway,
01:16:22
which I think makes it appropriately
01:16:24
hyped. Fair enough. Yeah.
01:16:26
>> Perfect. So, Teenage Engineering, I'm so
01:16:28
happy because the next thing on this
01:16:29
list
01:16:30
>> Oh, no. >> is having a dedicated camera.
01:16:33
>> Overhyped or underhyped?
01:16:34
>> Underhyped.
01:16:35
>> You think it's underhyped?
01:16:37
>> Overhyped. I I feel like we all now have
01:16:40
like a dedicated little side camera that
01:16:42
we take. >> Even the kids,
01:16:44
>> they all have the dig cams now.
01:16:45
>> I have both of mine here today.
01:16:47
>> Nice. >> Yeah. Is he in the room with us right
01:16:49
now?
01:16:50
>> I I can go get them, but I don't think
01:16:52
anyone cares. >> Um, is it
01:16:54
>> we have a whole
01:16:56
on carrying it like carrying a separate
01:16:58
camera yourself.
01:16:59
>> Yeah, like having a separate camera.
01:17:00
Like my cous now has his like house of
01:17:01
blood too. So like
01:17:03
>> everyone has a separate camera as well
01:17:04
as their iPhone/ Android.
01:17:06
>> I think because of our uh Yeah. Because
01:17:10
of our name of this game,
01:17:12
>> it's not over underrated. It's over
01:17:14
underhyped.
01:17:15
>> And I feel like this has not that much
01:17:17
hype. Yeah, agreed.
01:17:18
>> So, I would say some YouTube channels
01:17:20
that make a living off of this.
01:17:22
>> Yeah, but they're not very
01:17:24
popping.
01:17:25
>> I think carrying a dedicated camera is
01:17:27
way
01:17:28
>> underhyped hyped.
01:17:29
>> Really?
01:17:30
>> Dude, I'm not seeing that. I'm not
01:17:32
saying that.
01:17:33
>> There there there are entire product
01:17:34
categories in the dedicated camera space
01:17:36
that are just like this camera is like
01:17:39
cheap enough like you don't have to
01:17:40
think about. >> Yeah, but those are for that's content
01:17:42
for other photographers,
01:17:44
you know? Like every time I have a
01:17:46
camera out, someone goes, "Are you a
01:17:47
photographer?" And it's like, "Well,
01:17:49
everyone's a photographer if they just
01:17:50
have a camera with them." Little bars.
01:17:52
>> Crazy. I I feel like the talk of the
01:17:54
town for the past year has been like,
01:17:55
"You got to get a Digi Cam. You got to
01:17:58
you got to get the new Fujif film. You
01:18:00
got to have a dedicated camera."
01:18:01
>> But also,
01:18:03
>> when you actually go out into the world,
01:18:04
how many people actually have a
01:18:06
dedicated camera? Not that many.
01:18:07
>> Not that many.
01:18:08
>> People talk about this a lot, but people
01:18:10
don't actually do it that way. >> But then everyone's Instagram post is a
01:18:12
Polaroid dump. You ever notice that
01:18:16
[laughter]
01:18:17
>> everyone's Instagram post is 15
01:18:19
Polaroids for some reason. Are they
01:18:20
real?
01:18:21
>> I've done a lot of folly family
01:18:24
activities and I have seen very few
01:18:27
cameras.
01:18:28
>> Okay. >> Underhyped.
01:18:29
>> If that's anecdotal, but like if if you
01:18:32
could think of a position to where
01:18:33
someone would bring a dedicated camera
01:18:35
to cuz I'm the turd there with it.
01:18:37
>> I I I do live in as we would say iPhone
01:18:41
Air territory. So maybe my perception is
01:18:44
a little skewed. >> iPhone.
01:18:46
>> Yeah.
01:18:47
>> You know,
01:18:48
>> David, >> what?
01:18:49
>> When Kendall Jenner posted her picture
01:18:52
with the contacts?
01:18:53
>> Yeah.
01:18:54
>> How difficult did it become to find the
01:18:56
contact? >> Impossible.
01:18:57
>> That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah, she overhyped the contact T2.
01:18:59
>> Well, I think since then, film cameras
01:19:01
in general have blown up.
01:19:03
>> Yeah, but then they also
01:19:05
>> cams have blown up.
01:19:06
>> They imploded again though.
01:19:07
>> Okay. >> The market did shrink.
01:19:09
>> It took a little bit. The contact is
01:19:11
still too expensive, but it is freaking
01:19:13
amazing. It's a great camera.
01:19:15
>> Saying underhyped.
01:19:16
>> We're saying underhyped because we
01:19:17
haven't seen this hype.
01:19:19
>> I just don't think there's >> cuz it's not like a thing everyone does.
01:19:22
>> It's hype enough for us to debate if
01:19:24
it's underhyped or overhyped, but I
01:19:26
think it's still in the underhyped
01:19:27
category right now.
01:19:28
>> Yeah, I think it's underhyped.
01:19:29
>> All right. So, carry the camera
01:19:30
underhyped.
01:19:31
>> That's right.
01:19:32
>> All right. >> We're all still cool. I promise. Number
01:19:36
[laughter]
01:19:38
>> number four. Live
01:19:41
translation.
01:19:42
>> Overhyped. >> Overhyped. [laughter]
01:19:44
>> Next.
01:19:45
>> Live.
01:19:46
>> Overhyped.
01:19:47
>> Here's an Here's Devil's Advocate.
01:19:50
>> The concept of live translation is we
01:19:52
are imagining perfect live translation.
01:19:54
>> Yeah.
01:19:55
>> The products themselves are short of
01:19:57
perfect. So like they're approaching
01:19:59
this idea and then falling short. But
01:20:02
the concept of perfect live translation
01:20:04
and anyone on Earth being able to talk
01:20:06
to anyone else on Earth fluidly and
01:20:08
perfectly without having to think about
01:20:09
it is pretty under.
01:20:11
>> The concept of flapping my arms and
01:20:13
flying is pretty awesome, too.
01:20:14
[laughter]
01:20:15
>> I think the fact that we're working on
01:20:16
it and falling short of it makes it very
01:20:18
clear that the products aren't all that
01:20:22
they're cracked up to be. But the idea
01:20:25
>> of what they're working towards is
01:20:27
amazing. The phrase live translation is
01:20:29
a misnomer too because it would only be
01:20:31
live if you literally had a babbleish in
01:20:33
your ear and you could directly
01:20:35
understand what people were saying and
01:20:37
there was like yeah but the idea though
01:20:40
is that you can get pretty close to
01:20:42
that. Obviously the text's not there yet
01:20:43
but you know someone starts talking and
01:20:45
it's in a language you don't know and
01:20:46
then within a half a second you start
01:20:49
hearing the correct language.
01:20:50
>> Yeah. I mean that
01:20:52
>> well okay but we're talking about hype
01:20:55
levels though right and I feel like
01:20:57
these companies
01:20:58
>> the companies are hyping the
01:20:59
>> have been hyping this idea for so long
01:21:02
>> but they're hyping uh they're hyping the
01:21:04
product
01:21:06
which falls short of the idea
01:21:07
>> correct which is why it's overhyped
01:21:09
>> but the idea itself is like a humanoid
01:21:13
robot >> it's not hyped as much as a product
01:21:15
>> but I would say right now the fact that
01:21:18
like seven different companies this year
01:21:20
announced it in an announce announcement
01:21:22
with a product that barely even does it.
01:21:24
>> Yeah. >> Is like that peak overhyped tech stuff
01:21:27
of announcing a product that doesn't
01:21:29
work. >> They literally started talking about
01:21:31
this during like the Pixel one with the
01:21:34
original >> Pixel Buds
01:21:36
>> and they've said it every year and I
01:21:37
feel like if you hype something and it
01:21:40
doesn't live up to how you're hyping it,
01:21:42
then it's overhyped.
01:21:45
>> Yeah.
01:21:46
>> Right. If if they hyped it and it was
01:21:48
like better than they said, then it
01:21:49
would be underhyped. Well, I mean, no
01:21:51
product is ever no tech product
01:21:53
especially is ever like better than they
01:21:55
say it's going to be. I think in my
01:21:57
opinion >> only GTA 6
01:21:58
>> very rarely. [laughter]
01:22:00
>> But yeah, I agree. I mean, my devil's
01:22:02
advocate is like none of the products
01:22:04
are good enough to consider them done
01:22:06
yet. So, we're still working towards
01:22:07
this idea and when we get there, it's
01:22:09
going to be amazing.
01:22:10
>> But what I can buy right now,
01:22:12
>> but what you can buy right now is
01:22:13
overhyped. >> I mean, it's
01:22:14
>> But is that what you're saying that
01:22:15
about AI too?
01:22:16
>> Is the Are we talking about the concept
01:22:18
or the products that exist? Because you
01:22:20
said live translate.
01:22:21
>> That's fair. So when I hear
01:22:22
>> talk about concepts now
01:22:23
>> Ellis just said live translation as a
01:22:25
concept world peace. [laughter]
01:22:29
>> Overhyped.
01:22:30
>> Pretty hype. Pretty hype.
01:22:33
>> So anyway I that's the angle I was
01:22:34
coming
01:22:36
>> the idea.
01:22:37
>> But if we're saying the products that
01:22:38
exist now I agree they're overhyped.
01:22:40
>> Yeah. >> Overhyped.
01:22:42
>> Overhyped. Okay. Next on this list
01:22:46
>> the orange iPhone.
01:22:47
>> Overhyped.
01:22:48
>> Overhyped.
01:22:49
Okay. As someone who loved it at first,
01:22:52
it's over it's overhyped. It's not as
01:22:54
good as I thought it was going to be.
01:22:55
>> Damn. Like I'm glad
01:22:56
>> it's good. I'm I agree. I'm glad
01:22:58
>> I'm glad they did it.
01:22:59
>> You're glad they tried, but [laughter]
01:23:01
>> yeah,
01:23:02
>> as Marquez holds up his orange iPhone.
01:23:04
>> I've liked it more over time to be
01:23:06
honest.
01:23:07
>> I have too, but I'm not sure if that's
01:23:09
just me falling for the marketing
01:23:11
because I do think that initially I was
01:23:14
super hyped on the orange phone, then it
01:23:15
came out and I didn't like it. And now
01:23:17
as I see it more, I'm liking it again.
01:23:19
>> Marquez, as an orange iPhone owner, have
01:23:22
you liked it more or less?
01:23:24
>> Less than I thought I would
01:23:25
>> since it came out.
01:23:26
>> Yeah.
01:23:27
>> Okay. >> I thought I would like it. It's not as
01:23:28
orange as I was hoping. And the orange
01:23:30
bleeding around the sides. You really
01:23:31
have to commit to the orange
01:23:33
>> for sure. >> And I want to put a case and a skin on
01:23:34
it so bad.
01:23:35
>> Wait, why'd you take off the half?
01:23:37
>> Because it was too thick and the buttons
01:23:39
I was annoying with the buttons. I'll
01:23:41
probably do this again. I'll probably
01:23:42
put a half a skin on my phone again cuz
01:23:44
I think that was kind of fire. Uh, it's
01:23:46
like Venom, you know, anyway. Uh, I wish
01:23:49
they made a black one.
01:23:50
>> Symbiote.
01:23:51
>> So,
01:23:52
>> overhyped. >> Okay.
01:23:53
>> Overhyped. Have to say it. Overhyped or
01:23:55
underhyped. Color OS.
01:23:59
>> Underhyped. [snorts]
01:24:00
>> Underhyped.
01:24:02
>> Well, depending on who's doing the
01:24:03
hyping. The company is hyping the hell
01:24:04
out of it, but sort of. Uh, the response
01:24:08
from people is not as good. People are
01:24:11
having an instinctual reaction because
01:24:13
they think because they remember a world
01:24:15
where Oxygen OS was the best Android OS
01:24:17
and they're just mad about it going away
01:24:19
in name, but Color OS and and Oxygen are
01:24:22
like the same OS now.
01:24:24
>> Yeah. >> So, >> but they're further from the original
01:24:26
Oxygen OS we all love
01:24:27
>> by far. They strayed and now it's all
01:24:29
color OS basically.
01:24:30
>> For sure. But it's still good.
01:24:32
>> It's good.
01:24:34
>> I think it's one of the best ch I think
01:24:36
it's one of the best like Chinese OSs. I
01:24:39
watched so many videos on this and I am
01:24:41
very intrigued to try Color OS.
01:24:43
>> Remember Fun Touch?
01:24:45
>> No.
01:24:46
>> Yeah, I think I you know what I'm saying
01:24:47
underhyped. I'm going to say underhyped
01:24:48
because in my using the OnePlus 15 I if
01:24:53
the cameras were good would 100% daily
01:24:55
that phone
01:24:56
>> and I was not annoyed by any of the
01:24:57
software. I could easily just not use
01:24:59
the annoying AI features or mind space
01:25:01
or whatever. I don't care about it. And
01:25:03
like the aesthetics and stuff that's
01:25:05
like kind of obviously copying iOS is
01:25:07
what it is. OnePlus 15 is still oxygen
01:25:09
though, right?
01:25:10
>> It's oxygen. Sorry, but it's basically
01:25:11
color OS. Are they basically the same?
01:25:13
>> They're basically the same thing. So,
01:25:14
like I don't mind it. And the the So, it
01:25:16
would be the Oppo Find X9 Pro that had
01:25:18
Color OS. That's the last phone I used
01:25:20
with that. It was fine. It was good.
01:25:21
Lots of good features. It's very quick
01:25:22
and responsive. Weird sounds. Fine.
01:25:26
Whatever. [laughter] >> It doesn't like weird.
01:25:27
>> Nothing like the Galaxy S3 water droplet
01:25:29
sounds.
01:25:30
>> Yeah, the water droplet sounds. But I
01:25:31
think in general the amount of
01:25:32
optimization and performance tuning that
01:25:34
they do that people don't really talk
01:25:36
about is underhyped.
01:25:38
>> Underhyped. I agree. Underhyped.
01:25:40
>> Yeah.
01:25:41
>> Yeah. >> Andrew, what did you say?
01:25:42
>> I said underhyped.
01:25:43
>> Underhyped as well. All right. All
01:25:44
underhyped. Next. AI browsers.
01:25:48
>> Overhyped.
01:25:49
>> Overhyped. >> Overhyped by
01:25:51
>> Damn, that was fast.
01:25:53
>> Everyone here uses Well, no,
01:25:57
dude. >> There's two types of people. There's
01:25:58
people who don't know about or don't
01:26:00
care about and don't talk at all about
01:26:01
AI browsers and then there's people who
01:26:03
overhype AI browsers.
01:26:04
>> Yeah. [laughter]
01:26:05
>> It's like there's no nice balance in
01:26:07
between. Well, you know, I think I might
01:26:09
sometime No, it's just people who are
01:26:10
like obsessed with AI browsers. And I'm
01:26:13
guilty. It's like all over my feed. It's
01:26:14
clearly it's clearly serving it to me.
01:26:16
Um but they're they're currently
01:26:18
overhyped. But again, the idea
01:26:21
>> they could be. [laughter]
01:26:24
>> Yeah, I'm going overhyped.
01:26:25
>> I don't know. the idea.
01:26:28
>> Get it? >> Dia,
01:26:29
>> which by the way,
01:26:31
>> they are just like turning DA into art.
01:26:32
>> And I am [laughter] such and it's great.
01:26:35
>> Every week they're just like here's
01:26:36
another Arc feature.
01:26:37
>> As unfortunate as it was that I was
01:26:39
wrong about ARC being still like a
01:26:42
priority for them. It's so clear that
01:26:43
they're just turning Dia into Arc and
01:26:45
I'm happy.
01:26:46
>> And what's going to happen when Dia has
01:26:47
when all of the Arc features are on Dia?
01:26:50
>> Then I will be is gone.
01:26:51
>> They will probably get rid of it.
01:26:54
>> Yeah. >> Later. So for those of you who were like
01:26:57
me and were using uh ARC and switched to
01:27:00
DIA because they had adopted enough of
01:27:02
the ARC features
01:27:04
>> pin folders,
01:27:05
>> you are probably going through the same
01:27:07
emotional arc as I am
01:27:10
>> because it has been slowly adopting like
01:27:12
the pin tabs look like Arc now and
01:27:14
they're on their way.
01:27:15
>> I need pin folders. Please, please,
01:27:17
>> Marquez, I think you're the only or
01:27:19
David, you've also spent some time with
01:27:20
this project. Uh
01:27:22
>> I can't wait to answer them.
01:27:23
>> The Palma 2 Pro. Um, the Xiaomi
01:27:27
>> Oh, SU7.
01:27:29
>> Oh, yeah. >> Or is it Sue7? Everyone around the
01:27:31
office has been saying Sue7.
01:27:32
>> It's SU.
01:27:33
>> I feel like an SUV, but with
01:27:35
>> because Yeah, it's SU7,
01:27:37
>> right? >> Is it overhyped or underhyped?
01:27:39
>> It is underhyped.
01:27:41
>> It's underhyped for
01:27:43
show. >> It is an incredible vehicle for an
01:27:46
incredibly low price. And the thing is
01:27:48
like it's underhyped because people are
01:27:50
never going to buy it in many markets
01:27:52
like here and it's unavailable and they
01:27:54
don't know how good it is which is why I
01:27:56
think by definition it's underhyped.
01:27:57
>> Well it's it's underhyped in the United
01:27:58
States. My question is is this a popular
01:28:00
product in China?
01:28:01
>> Yes.
01:28:02
>> Yes it is.
01:28:03
>> So then it's not underhyped in China.
01:28:04
>> Well it's correctly hyped in China. The
01:28:07
market speaks for itself. Like people
01:28:08
buy it. Supply and demand are speaking
01:28:10
for themselves and it's popular.
01:28:11
>> Yeah.
01:28:12
>> Out everywhere outside of those
01:28:13
available markets where it's
01:28:15
unavailable. People have no idea how
01:28:16
good it is. Yeah. So, I think it's
01:28:17
underhyped.
01:28:19
>> That's fair. That's my logic.
01:28:20
>> Do we get a We get a perfectly hyped and
01:28:22
we get it correctly hyped in China, too,
01:28:24
right? [laughter]
01:28:25
>> In Minecraft.
01:28:26
>> I feel like every car person that I know
01:28:29
and the few that I watch are super
01:28:33
excited about that car. So, I don't know
01:28:35
if that it's underhyped.
01:28:37
>> I feel like it's hard to get really
01:28:38
hyped about it though when
01:28:39
>> you can never get it.
01:28:40
>> Yeah. We can't get it.
01:28:42
>> Yeah. Because every non-car person has
01:28:43
no idea how amazing it is.
01:28:45
>> That's fair. I haven't actually gotten
01:28:46
to drive in it yet, but my experience
01:28:48
with it was pretty pretty weird. I'm not
01:28:51
going to lie. Only because the the two
01:28:53
passenger
01:28:54
>> Yeah, because the two features I got to
01:28:55
explore were the karaoke, which
01:28:57
>> Oh,
01:28:58
>> I found bizarre. The song selection was
01:29:01
really bizarre. No Creed.
01:29:03
>> No Creed in the included,
01:29:06
>> but [laughter] and then in the back
01:29:07
seat, the like duian on the the screen
01:29:12
>> tablet screen.
01:29:13
>> I found that incredibly off-putting.
01:29:15
just like endlessly in a in a car
01:29:18
scrolling through like Chinese thirst
01:29:19
traps and live League of Legend
01:29:22
competitions. [laughter]
01:29:23
>> Why is this here?
01:29:24
>> There's a lot going on with the car and
01:29:26
obviously Xiaomi is a company that makes
01:29:29
smartphones and and they are kind of
01:29:31
like the LG or whatever of China. Like
01:29:34
they make appliances, they make smart
01:29:36
home security systems, they make
01:29:38
>> make everything
01:29:39
>> smartones obviously. And now they make
01:29:40
this car and so it kind of just they
01:29:42
just plugged it into their ecosystem
01:29:44
like it works with everything.
01:29:45
>> Yeah.
01:29:46
>> Then they have Xiaomi tablets in the
01:29:47
back seats and uh it pairs with their
01:29:50
Xiaomi phone and can have like modules
01:29:53
attached to the screen and they attach
01:29:55
they connect to your like there's
01:29:56
there's a lot going on and you don't
01:29:58
have to use any of it and you chose to
01:30:00
use some of the weird parts which is
01:30:01
great. But I think like as a as a
01:30:04
vehicle like as an owner like as I'm
01:30:06
dailying the thing it's like it rides
01:30:08
really well. It has good range. The
01:30:10
software is super responsive. It's the
01:30:12
biggest CarPlay I've ever seen. The
01:30:13
speakers are amazing. It has active
01:30:14
noise cancellation. Just like the things
01:30:16
that make a car nice, build quality,
01:30:18
materials, comfort. It's all there.
01:30:20
>> Yeah, >> it's it's really good.
01:30:21
>> I kind of felt like when I was driving
01:30:23
it in California, it felt like the
01:30:25
combination between a Model S and a
01:30:28
Porsche. Uh,
01:30:30
>> sure. >> That was sort of my analogy.
01:30:32
>> I think that's fair.
01:30:33
>> Good save.
01:30:34
>> Thanks. [laughter]
01:30:35
>> Way cheaper than both of them.
01:30:36
>> Yeah. $40,000.
01:30:39
>> All right. So, underhyped. Sticking with
01:30:40
it. >> Yeah, I'm sticking with it.
01:30:42
>> All right. Next. Liquid glass.
01:30:45
>> Overhyped by Apple.
01:30:47
>> Yeah. That's the hard thing is
01:30:49
>> by who?
01:30:50
>> Yeah.
01:30:51
>> I don't think a lot of people are hyping
01:30:52
liquid glass.
01:30:54
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Apple's hyping liquid glass and
01:30:56
then everyone's responding with a not so
01:30:58
hype.
01:30:59
>> You know how I know it's overhyped?
01:31:01
because all of the designer people who
01:31:03
are just like love anything Apple does
01:31:06
originally when they first announced it
01:31:08
was like this is the greatest thing ever
01:31:10
and then after like one beta they were
01:31:11
like oh my god [laughter] this is
01:31:13
terrible so
01:31:17
I mean it's definitely not underhive gez
01:31:20
um >> that's fair
01:31:21
>> I kind of like it I don't have my phone
01:31:23
I have it on my iPad but
01:31:26
>> I don't know >> the only liquid glass feature that I
01:31:28
there's two liquid glass features I like
01:31:30
I like that when you pull down the
01:31:32
notification shade thing, it does that
01:31:34
like distortion field over like whatever
01:31:36
text you have. I love
01:31:38
>> I hate that. >> It's so fun.
01:31:39
>> Every time I'm like
01:31:41
>> And then for the apps that support it,
01:31:43
the like virtual glass tile that moves
01:31:45
between the options. Like I like that,
01:31:48
but pretty much nothing else about that
01:31:50
OS I actually enjoy.
01:31:53
>> So,
01:31:54
>> especially the fact that it destroys my
01:31:56
battery life. I love that.
01:31:57
>> Yeah, not enough people talking about
01:31:59
that.
01:32:00
I'm going to say overhyped because a lot
01:32:02
of companies are like changing the way
01:32:04
that their apps work and look.
01:32:06
>> I feel like the YouTube player kind of
01:32:08
looks a little bit less now. Like a lot
01:32:11
of other companies are shifting their
01:32:12
designs more towards
01:32:15
which is like to be fair. It's more
01:32:17
cohesive.
01:32:18
>> But
01:32:20
>> yeah, >> is this the world we want?
01:32:21
>> I don't think I need that.
01:32:22
>> I would prefer skumorphism
01:32:25
over this like hybrid skumorphism.
01:32:27
>> I think we're in too deep, dude. I like
01:32:29
flat white. We were at where we were at
01:32:31
like five years ago. Well,
01:32:33
>> I know that that's a dreamy, but I think
01:32:35
where we were at like five to six years
01:32:36
ago where everything was like clean and
01:32:39
we overdid that too. Obviously, there
01:32:40
was like way too much blank space
01:32:41
everywhere, but there was nice clean
01:32:43
flat 2D shapes. Everything was crisp and
01:32:45
clean.
01:32:46
>> What about like the original about the
01:32:48
original the original iOS and the
01:32:50
original >> that like real material schemorphism?
01:32:52
That was another vibe. You could get
01:32:55
into that. That >> is definitely a vibe.
01:32:56
>> I don't know if I was as into that part.
01:32:57
I love it.
01:32:58
>> Where you open the books app and a shelf
01:32:59
comes out of your iPhone. [laughter]
01:33:01
That was a choice. That was a choice.
01:33:04
>> Do you want to have fun in your life,
01:33:05
Marquez? [laughter]
01:33:07
>> I think we're in too deep. Like all the
01:33:08
things we do on our phones now don't
01:33:10
have nonphone analoges anymore.
01:33:13
>> Yeah, that's a good question. That's a
01:33:14
good point.
01:33:15
>> Like >> like what? like a save
01:33:16
>> like Tik Tok
01:33:18
>> like scroll
01:33:19
>> the YouTube TV context like barely made
01:33:22
sense with the app icon but like what
01:33:24
the what the heck in what other world
01:33:26
are we like >> that's fair that's a good point
01:33:28
>> you know what's very specifically so
01:33:30
just cuz you said Tik Tok it reminded me
01:33:32
like the swiping thing it's just it's
01:33:35
just pains of videos and that's kind of
01:33:37
boring but Android's new Android what is
01:33:41
this 15 Android 15 Android 16 Android
01:33:44
16's new material three expressive where
01:33:47
you you pull a notification out from the
01:33:49
group and swipe it away.
01:33:51
>> The physics of it
01:33:52
>> I feel like they're objects. I really
01:33:54
enjoy that specifically.
01:33:57
>> Before we leave this, Marquez, I did
01:33:58
want to ask something specifically of
01:34:00
you because you have seen K-pop Demon
01:34:02
Hunters. This is like part of your new
01:34:04
movies thing. I've only seen the first
01:34:06
30 minutes of it, but I wanted to ask
01:34:08
you, did you notice
01:34:09
>> in those first 30 minutes? I can't
01:34:12
remember exactly how many there were,
01:34:13
but how many horiz or vertical wipes
01:34:17
there were to get between scenes.
01:34:19
>> Oh, no. I didn't notice that.
01:34:20
>> I was trying to guess if they did that
01:34:22
on purpose to like fool Tik Tok addicted
01:34:24
children into like
01:34:26
>> maintaining attention.
01:34:27
>> It felt like
01:34:28
>> Did you notice that? I think in the
01:34:31
first three 30 minutes there were only
01:34:33
like two or three times but every single
01:34:34
time I'd never seen a movie get from one
01:34:36
scene to another by going and I was like
01:34:39
>> huh >> I
01:34:40
>> Spider-Man we'll probably watch it
01:34:42
again.
01:34:44
>> I didn't notice that.
01:34:45
>> Is it not kind of like comic booky of
01:34:47
like swiping to a panel? Like that's how
01:34:50
I would imagine it. I haven't seen it
01:34:52
>> in the comic book one. It's normally
01:34:53
like a zoom out of a panel like it's
01:34:56
>> see that or I can see a page swipe but
01:34:58
like I I you still you know panels up
01:35:01
and down also
01:35:02
>> that this is just how I interpret it
01:35:04
watching the movie going from like you
01:35:05
know anyway how many more do you guys uh
01:35:08
want to do these
01:35:09
>> more >> two more
01:35:12
>> let's do two more
01:35:13
>> tumo
01:35:14
>> two more
01:35:15
>> uh AI notification summaries
01:35:20
>> wait [laughter]
01:35:22
>> this is universally hated feature.
01:35:24
>> So if you find any value in them, then
01:35:26
they become under under
01:35:28
>> I don't think it's universally hated
01:35:29
because I just get really funny ones.
01:35:32
Like I just had one that I just took a
01:35:34
screenshot of.
01:35:35
>> This is the only thing they're good for.
01:35:37
>> Screenshots of when it messes up and
01:35:38
it's kind of funny.
01:35:39
>> So it's my email app, right? and it's
01:35:41
summarizing a bunch of emails, but for
01:35:42
some reason it gives like a summarized
01:35:45
subject that's trying to like total all
01:35:48
of the, you know, because it's like
01:35:49
>> Marquez is angry about this and blank,
01:35:52
right? >> This one is from Gmail. The headline is
01:35:55
the the subject is this is going to be
01:35:57
fun and it says credit card payment
01:36:00
scheduled for $2,300. [laughter]
01:36:02
I was like, yeah, I love not having
01:36:05
money.
01:36:06
>> It's going to be fun.
01:36:07
>> This is going to be fun.
01:36:09
>> Jesus. [laughter]
01:36:10
Yeah, I just for another anecdote is
01:36:14
when you when you're setting up a new
01:36:15
iPhone now, it's one of the
01:36:17
>> steps in the setup process is do you
01:36:19
want notification summaries? And I
01:36:21
instantly hit no.
01:36:22
>> Which by the way, uh new story we didn't
01:36:25
cover today is that the Pixel is getting
01:36:27
notification summaries. I put it in
01:36:29
here. I've never tried it, so I can't
01:36:32
say anything. >> Using a phone to me is managing your
01:36:34
notifications. That is what using a
01:36:36
phone is.
01:36:37
>> I get notifications. I decide what to
01:36:40
engage with and what not to. I dismiss
01:36:42
some. I go into apps from some. It's
01:36:43
like a launcher and and trying to like
01:36:46
distill that and summarize that is just
01:36:48
not useful to me.
01:36:50
>> Yeah, that's all.
01:36:51
>> Do you think can you prompt inject
01:36:55
>> uh notification summaries? Has anyone
01:36:57
tried this yet? I don't think input
01:37:00
anything,
01:37:01
>> but if you sent a message that was like
01:37:03
>> that said a certain
01:37:04
>> Yeah, it was like ignore all previous
01:37:05
instructions, [laughter] you know,
01:37:07
>> for flaws or
01:37:08
>> it would just be a regular reply to
01:37:10
whatever notification. [clears throat]
01:37:13
>> No, but would the summary the other
01:37:14
person get like could you dictate what
01:37:16
the summary sends
01:37:18
>> by by wording a message in a specific
01:37:20
way? I think the only reason
01:37:21
notification summaries exist is because
01:37:24
this was like one of the first use cases
01:37:27
of AI and LLM like
01:37:29
>> summarize the thing
01:37:30
>> that we we built the LLMs and everyone's
01:37:32
like quick figure out what we can do
01:37:34
with this. Figure it out. Figure it out.
01:37:35
And that's why we got like image
01:37:36
playground.
01:37:37
>> That's why everything has a summarize
01:37:39
button. >> They basically just gave us features
01:37:41
that they could do, not that they should
01:37:42
do.
01:37:43
>> Nice.
01:37:44
>> Yeah. So,
01:37:46
>> okay. >> That's why image playground exists, too.
01:37:48
Speaking of which, wait, did we settle
01:37:50
what what it was? Overhyped or
01:37:51
underhyped?
01:37:52
>> It's over. >> Overhyped.
01:37:54
>> All right. Next.
01:37:56
Insane image generation.
01:37:59
>> What AI?
01:38:00
>> Bro, do you remember
01:38:01
>> insane image?
01:38:02
>> Well, just image generation AI.
01:38:03
>> Do you remember when they had like
01:38:04
Google Deep Dream? Do you remember
01:38:06
Google Deepdream?
01:38:07
>> No.
01:38:08
>> This is like early Google image
01:38:10
generation.
01:38:11
>> No. >> And it was so insane. Like pull up a
01:38:14
couple of them. Yeah. It was like you
01:38:16
were on like lots of drugs. It was like
01:38:19
very acid induced.
01:38:22
>> That was a much better image generation
01:38:24
than what we have now.
01:38:25
>> I I miss Google DeepDream.
01:38:26
>> I miss that. Isn't that incredible?
01:38:29
>> I think the fact that image playgrounds
01:38:30
is pre-installed on the iPhone is all we
01:38:32
need to say. That's clearly overhyped.
01:38:34
>> Yeah, it's overhyped.
01:38:35
>> Does anybody ever use any of them?
01:38:37
>> Also, it's bad for society. So, very
01:38:40
overhyped.
01:38:42
>> All right. Image generation overhyped.
01:38:43
[laughter] >> Sora. Simple
01:38:45
>> unanimous sounds like AI
01:38:46
>> by unanimous decision.
01:38:48
>> Yeah. >> And
01:38:49
>> All right, then. Let's uh let's bubble
01:38:52
[laughter] >> underhyped.
01:38:54
>> Hype the bubble, baby.
01:38:57
>> Yeah. I I love it. It literally looks
01:38:58
like you're on
01:38:59
>> You can do it in VR.
01:39:00
>> Oh god. [laughter]
01:39:02
>> Today's first trivia question
01:39:04
is a tale of three socks.
01:39:07
>> Right.
01:39:08
>> Specifically, I'm wondering which sock
01:39:09
is the most expensive. Hit it, Adam.
01:39:12
>> Wait, I need a pen. Where's my pen?
01:39:14
>> The brand new in packaging fivepack
01:39:16
[music]
01:39:17
of the 2004 iPod socks that sold
01:39:20
yesterday on eBay.
01:39:22
The short strap iPhone pocket sock. That
01:39:26
is a really hard sentence to say. Or C,
01:39:30
a pair of plain white men's socks from
01:39:33
the fashion brand Balenciaga.
01:39:36
Note, these are plain white socks from
01:39:39
Balenciaga, not the Cardi B mentioned
01:39:42
Balenciagas that look like socks.
01:39:45
>> What?
01:39:46
>> Important distinction.
01:39:47
>> Wait, what are those?
01:39:48
>> Those are shoes.
01:39:49
>> Oh, okay.
01:39:50
>> Flip him and read. What do you got?
01:39:53
>> Oh, >> we literally all put the Oh, no. You
01:39:55
guys put the same thing. Marquez and
01:39:57
David, what did you guys put?
01:39:58
>> Well,
01:39:59
>> well, I did put it something different.
01:40:00
So, I put
01:40:01
>> Oh, everyone put something. Sorry. I
01:40:02
can't. >> No. Marquez and I put the same thing.
01:40:03
>> Yeah. my mistake, which is
01:40:06
>> so I put a which is the new inbox retro
01:40:10
sock.
01:40:11
>> Five socks.
01:40:12
>> Unfortunately, those were sold for
01:40:13
$81.99.
01:40:15
>> That's way too high.
01:40:17
>> David, you put
01:40:18
>> Balenciaga,
01:40:20
>> which sold for
01:40:22
$130,
01:40:24
meaning this new iPhone pocket sock is
01:40:28
the most expensive sock.
01:40:30
>> And that's the least expensive out of
01:40:31
the new expensive socks. Exactly.
01:40:33
>> I'm buying me some Balenciagas, baby.
01:40:36
>> Those were prices per SKUs. If you
01:40:37
adjust it for price per sock, it still
01:40:41
>> is the [laughter] most expensive song.
01:40:43
>> Nice. Quick update on the score. Marquez
01:40:45
and Andrew tied with 10. David with six.
01:40:48
Come on, David. You got this. We were
01:40:51
talking about hype, fashion, and tech
01:40:52
collabs. Bathing Ape and Stash once
01:40:55
collabed with which famous camera brand
01:40:58
to launch a camera?
01:41:01
Don't overthink it.
01:41:04
camera brand [music]
01:41:07
high fashion Adam
01:41:11
>> this is my opportunity [laughter] you
01:41:14
said come on David then you give them
01:41:16
hints come on
01:41:19
>> I only got [music] one shot
01:41:20
>> all right >> I don't want to miss my chance to blow
01:41:22
>> mom spaghetti get ready to flip it and
01:41:25
read what do we got
01:41:26
>> I feel like uh
01:41:27
>> guys
01:41:28
>> oh [laughter]
01:41:30
>> Mar put three different answers Here. I
01:41:33
guessed Polaroid.
01:41:35
>> Nope. Andrew,
01:41:36
>> why are you laughing at it? It's Bape.
01:41:38
You don't even know what Bape is. How
01:41:39
can you? [laughter]
01:41:42
>> I said Kodak.
01:41:44
>> Nope.
01:41:45
>> David, what is it?
01:41:46
>> Leica.
01:41:47
>> Correct. [laughter]
01:41:49
>> Leica will just sell out anywhere. Huh,
01:41:50
>> bro? Have you seen the Seal Q2?
01:41:53
>> Like the musician.
01:41:55
Look it up. It's so ugly. It's all
01:41:58
sequins. [laughter]
01:41:59
>> Look it up.
01:42:01
It's that it's that material when you go
01:42:03
to Ross and they have those pillows that
01:42:05
you can like carve a face. How much do
01:42:07
they sell that for?
01:42:08
>> It's like a lot of money. Yeah. However,
01:42:12
however much the Q2 is. Yeah. Or was
01:42:14
>> you know I've never shot I've never
01:42:15
actually I don't think I've ever shot
01:42:17
and owned with a Leica. So the only
01:42:19
Leica I've ever used are like Huawei
01:42:21
phones basically
01:42:23
>> and that's where all of my knowledge of
01:42:25
Leica comes from.
01:42:26
Leica has done a lot of
01:42:27
>> what's awesome about you
01:42:29
>> completely hurdling over the Leica price
01:42:32
point going straight going straight to
01:42:34
no Hasselblot as a camera owner.
01:42:37
>> Yeah.
01:42:38
>> Yeah. The Hasselblot's cheaper than
01:42:39
Leica.
01:42:40
>> No, that's what I'm Oh,
01:42:41
>> hustle. Yeah, they're both pretty
01:42:43
expensive.
01:42:44
>> The new Hustelblot is cheaper than
01:42:46
pretty much every
01:42:47
>> every mainframe Leica.
01:42:50
>> Is that true? They did a Lenny Kravitz
01:42:52
collection.
01:42:53
>> Oh, I got to see this. It's snakes skin
01:42:55
and brown. I love that.
01:42:57
>> Incredible.
01:42:58
>> Well, hey, look, like I said, if we
01:43:00
don't get points, we will at least learn
01:43:01
something. And I have learned so much
01:43:03
about Leica in the last 5 minutes.
01:43:04
[laughter] Thank you guys for watching
01:43:06
and for staying tuned and uh for of
01:43:08
course enabling all the amazing numbers
01:43:10
we got to talk about, but also just for
01:43:12
subscribing and for uh for hanging out
01:43:14
with us. So, we'll see you guys next
01:43:16
[music] week. Peace. Goodbye. Waveform
01:43:18
is produced by Adamina and Ellen and
01:43:20
part of the Vox Media Podcast Network
01:43:21
and Music was created by Vain Silk.
01:43:23
Bingo.
01:43:24
>> Bingo.
01:43:25
>> Where's the wave from? [music]
01:43:34
>> Overhyped
01:43:37
time. [laughter]
01:43:39
[clears throat]
01:43:42
>> There it is.

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In this episode, Marques, Andrew, and David start off talking about the newest Apple Pocket accessory that was released before getting into the OnePlus 15. After that, they talk about Marques getting interviewed by LeBron James, the new Spotify Wrapped weekly feature, and GTA 6 getting delayed (again). Then they wrap it all up with a game of HYPEathetically speaking. Enjoy! Chapters 00:00 - Intro 01:45 - Apple Pocket 08:50 - OnePlus 15 24:03 - LeBron x Marques 27:37 - iPhone Air shipments 00:34:44 - Toy Story 5 trailer 39:28 - Framer (Sponsored) 41:13 - Grammarly (Sponsored) 42:38 - GTA6 gets delayed 47:19 - Spotify Weekly wrapped 53:52 - Aura e-Ink frame 01:00:03 - End of smartphone season stats 01:06:19 - LinkedIn (Sponsored) 01:07:35 - Monarch Money (Sponsored) 01:09:06 - T-Mobile (Sponsored) 01:10:08 - HYPE-athethically speaking 01:39:03 - Trivia Links: Apple iPhone Pocket: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/11/introducing-iphone-pocket-a-beautiful-way-to-wear-and-carry-iphone/ MKBHD - OnePlus 15 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=QxIvodONzlBC9oU2&v=2MdQWo9fHZs LeBron James x Marques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=mYJmXIMzt3EnwaTC&v=htRERdGz4bI Verge - iPhone Air 2 delayed: https://www.theverge.com/news/817908/apple-iphone-air-second-generation-delayed Rockstar Games - GTA 6 delayed: https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/ak3ak31a49a221/grand-theft-auto-vi-is-now-set-to-launch-november-19-2026 This episode brought to you by: Framer: https://www.framer.com/design/ (code: wave) Grammarly: https://superhuman.com/ LinkedIn: https://business.linkedin.com/talent-solutions/post-jobs/ai-assistant?mcid=7361782423916802090&veh=mkbhd Monarch Money: https://www.monarch.com (code: wave) T-Mobile: https://www.t-mobile.com/switch Music provided by Epidemic Sound Shop the merch: https://mkbhd.com/ Social: Waveform Threads: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Waveform Instagram: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Hosts: Marques: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Andrew: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser David: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Adam: https://www.facebook.com/unsupportedbrowser Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.com/invite/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://www.youtube.com/user/20syl Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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