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You can now in adjust the intensity00:00:02
which HDR content displays.00:00:05
>> There's a slider now. So it'll show you00:00:08
like the brightness that the HDR content00:00:10
comes through. >> Dragging it all the way up.00:00:12
>> Marquez, >> I'm dragging it all the way up.00:00:13
>> That's what it was.00:00:14
>> I want it. I want to be scrolling with00:00:16
low [laughter] brightness and I want to00:00:18
see your your picture on Instagram and00:00:20
just boom.00:00:21
>> Marquez wants that flashbang [laughter]00:00:24
>> in his bed.00:00:25
>> I want that impactful media.00:00:26
>> I just want to turn it all off.00:00:28
>> Turn it all the way up. I hate HDR.00:00:30
[music]00:00:33
>> Yo, what is up people of the internet?00:00:35
Welcome back to another episode of the00:00:37
Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm00:00:39
Marquez. >> I'm Andrew.00:00:40
>> And it's your birthday.00:00:42
>> Nice. >> Happy birthday.00:00:43
>> Happy birthday.00:00:45
>> Today is as of the day of recording, my00:00:48
birthday. My 32nd birthday.00:00:51
>> And what's your listening age, by the00:00:52
way? >> Uh yeah, we'll get to that.00:00:54
>> My Spotify rap seems to agree. Um, yeah.00:00:57
So, in this episode, we we have like00:00:59
kind of a lot actually to go through. A00:01:01
bunch of stuff for some reason. All00:01:02
happened this week in the first half of00:01:04
the week. Very convenient for us to talk00:01:05
about on the pod. Galaxy Z Trifold for00:01:07
real for real this time. Uh, tons of00:01:09
Android features. Uh, YouTube also00:01:11
finally did the thing.00:01:14
>> You know what I'm talking about.00:01:15
>> YouTube Rewind. >> Yeah. Uh, actually, yeah, I miss it. I00:01:17
miss it.00:01:18
>> Uh, and also, uh, we're going to wrap it00:01:19
up with our Waveform Creators rap to see00:01:21
how many of you continue to listen to00:01:23
us. So, that's what we're going to do.00:01:25
K-pop.00:01:27
>> I also had K-pop on my Spotify rap. So00:01:31
did Casey. K-pop Demon Hunters.00:01:33
>> Well, it is your birthday and we thought00:01:34
we'd open this episode00:01:37
>> with Adam. Could you grab us that? Um,00:01:40
>> we got you a little present.00:01:41
>> Yeah. Oh,00:01:42
>> we know it's hard to get something for00:01:44
the man who has everything, but last00:01:45
week you told [snorts] us there was00:01:47
something you didn't really understand.00:01:49
So, we thought it would be a perfect00:01:52
time to get you that thing and see if00:01:54
you can um live the magic of00:01:57
>> live the magic. And then we'd also be00:01:58
curious as the greatest tech reviewer on00:02:00
earth, the greatest product reviewer on00:02:02
earth, we would curious if you could00:02:03
give a brief re like a, you know,00:02:05
instant stream of consciousness review.00:02:07
>> This must be a Lubu. There's00:02:09
>> Can you please explain the audience?00:02:12
>> Well, I just think you'd have the00:02:13
ability to make it crystal clear what a00:02:16
Lubu is for everyone else. Wow. Way to00:02:18
ruin the surprise.00:02:19
>> Do a hand [laughter] do a hands-on00:02:20
review. >> All right, I'll I'll unbox this. Oh. Oh,00:02:23
I'll unwrap this.00:02:25
>> Um, and it is in fact00:02:28
>> I'm pretty sure this is Lubu. Does it00:02:29
say Lubu anywhere? Or is that a00:02:31
nickname? It doesn't say Lubu on it.00:02:32
>> Oh, it doesn't?00:02:34
>> I've also never witnessed this happen.00:02:36
>> It says it's Well, it says uh00:02:38
>> Did you get a knockoff, fellas?00:02:40
>> No, I did not get I [laughter] did not00:02:41
get a lufu.00:02:43
>> Well, is what is Luind? Is that like00:02:45
what people call it as a00:02:47
>> No, it's the real name. >> That is in fact a Laboo.00:02:49
>> It doesn't say it anywhere00:02:50
>> anywhere.00:02:51
>> I think people already know what it is.00:02:52
>> It says exciting macaron the monsters00:02:56
vinyl face. Uh PopMart. It doesn't say00:03:00
Laboo anywhere, but here's the box.00:03:02
>> Uh it's a PL. It's a colorful box. It's00:03:04
got colors.00:03:06
>> Um I'm going00:03:07
>> So it's a blind box, so you can get any00:03:09
of those ones on the side.00:03:10
>> And there is like an extremely rare one,00:03:12
right? We all know he's going to pull it00:03:14
>> in this series. The extremely rare one00:03:16
is a one out of 12 chance.00:03:19
>> The rest of them are one out of six.00:03:20
>> Got it. So, there's six six of them on00:03:22
the side and then one secret one that's00:03:24
a one out of 12. So, it's exactly twice00:03:27
as rare or half as common.00:03:30
>> 12. >> I will open it.00:03:31
>> No, that's not Runescape drop rate.00:03:33
That's fantastic.00:03:34
>> It's in a bag now.00:03:36
>> It also does not say labu. It says00:03:38
exciting macron. I'm actually starting00:03:40
to wonder why people call these a00:03:42
boobies. >> I thought they had like a tear thing on00:03:44
the inside. This has like a a sticker on00:03:47
the top that feels like it got tampered00:03:48
with already.00:03:49
>> I went to the PopMart store in World00:03:52
Trade00:03:53
>> and purchased this.00:03:56
>> Smells kind of00:03:58
>> artificial. Smells00:03:59
>> smells kind of like [clears throat] a carpet.00:04:00
>> Um, okay.00:04:01
>> Secret one.00:04:02
>> So, this is00:04:03
>> beige. [laughter]00:04:05
I'm going to go based on00:04:06
>> I believe I believe there's a card in00:04:08
the bag that that tells you what's in00:04:10
the in the the blind bag.00:04:12
>> Oh my god, it's ugly.00:04:13
>> It's pretty cute. Okay, this card00:04:15
>> this is very like Patagonia jacket00:04:17
colored.00:04:18
>> Yeah, beige. [laughter]00:04:22
>> Uh I got toffee it says. Oh,00:04:24
>> okay. So, one of the middle normal00:04:27
rarity ones. Toffee is and I guess00:04:29
that's the color too. Uh, so it's a00:04:31
little furry character with um [snorts]00:04:34
it's it has like regular hands and feet00:04:37
and a face, but then the rest is00:04:40
completely covered by fur. Uh, it's got00:04:42
a keychain on the top, so you could00:04:45
pitch your keys on this.00:04:47
>> Oh, shoot. >> Um,00:04:48
>> are you going to do that for the rest of00:04:49
the day? We would be very hurt if you00:04:51
wouldn't put if you don't put your I00:04:52
actually don't carry any keys with me,00:04:55
so I I will not have any keys to put on00:04:57
this, but it is a nice little keychain,00:04:59
I will say. And it says the monsters on00:05:02
it. So, at no point anywhere does00:05:03
anything say Lubu. [laughter]00:05:05
>> I'm also The exciting macaron thing is00:05:08
that that's this one's like uh00:05:10
>> I believe series, right? Okay.00:05:12
>> Oh, yeah. But00:05:14
>> there are no macar macaroons. Well, I00:05:17
believe all of the colors are references00:05:19
to >> Oh, to macaroon color.00:05:21
>> Uh, or flavors perhaps. I don't know.00:05:23
>> I think it's just macaroon colors.00:05:24
Toffee.00:05:26
>> Oh, yeah. Toffee.00:05:27
>> Yeah. Yeah.00:05:28
>> I think audio listeners love that00:05:29
section.00:05:30
>> Yeah. >> I cannot say I understand any of the00:05:33
hype, but it is a pretty unique looking00:05:35
uh character.00:05:36
>> How's the build quality, would you say?00:05:38
>> Yeah, it feels So, it's kind of like a00:05:39
bobblehead. It feels like I could rip00:05:41
the head off. I don't want to. I'm not00:05:42
going to, but it kind of doesn't it feel00:05:45
doesn't it look like I could look at it?00:05:47
How small the neck is?00:05:48
>> It's pretty malleable.00:05:50
>> I'm just saying. >> I think that's that's good build quality00:05:52
that they're confident enough in a tight00:05:54
neck.00:05:55
>> Can I feel it?00:05:56
>> Yeah. Here you can try it.00:05:58
>> Happy birthday. [snorts]00:05:59
>> Yeah. >> Happy birthday. I know you love your00:06:00
presents so much and will never get rid00:06:01
of it and carry it everywhere you go.00:06:03
>> Yeah, you guys know me.00:06:04
>> You know what's funny? On the tag, they00:06:05
have a little area to cut it.00:06:07
>> Nice. Smart.00:06:08
>> Yeah, you should cut it off cuz it takes00:06:10
up like a lot of the space. lose resale00:06:12
value in there.00:06:13
>> Honestly,00:06:14
>> decent build quality.00:06:16
>> Is this >> is resale value something I should be00:06:18
thinking about with this?00:06:19
>> Not anymore.00:06:20
>> No, I already opened it.00:06:21
>> This is just a normal mass-produced00:06:22
product that everyone can buy.00:06:23
>> Here, I can find the resale value.00:06:25
>> Okay, there's no way it's high.00:06:28
>> That's soft. >> How much actually is a is is a Lubu or00:06:31
whatever this is00:06:33
>> about $30 on this.00:06:35
>> Whoa.00:06:36
>> You [laughter] spent00:06:37
>> This was This was to be fair00:06:39
>> a corporate card purchase. It was for00:06:42
the podcast. We forgot it was your00:06:44
birthday,00:06:45
>> which maybe makes this worse, but we00:06:47
wanted to do it just for the pod and00:06:48
then it happened to land on your00:06:50
birthday. >> Research. Research.00:06:52
>> There was a mint green humansized labua00:06:54
that sold for $170,000.00:06:57
>> Mint green. But that's like a oneofone00:06:59
humansized one.00:07:00
>> Yeah. >> I feel like these are just regular00:07:03
stuffed animals.00:07:06
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But they're creepy.00:07:07
>> Collectible00:07:08
>> with like a unique face that is00:07:10
>> like remember the00:07:11
Do you remember the trolls with the long00:07:13
weird hair?00:07:14
>> Yep. Yep. >> It's not different.00:07:15
>> Yeah.00:07:16
>> Everything is the same. >> I agree. I'm going to00:07:18
>> Nice.00:07:19
>> Oh, >> we live in a circular society. Oh,00:07:22
perforated. Nice. >> Yeah.00:07:23
>> Well,00:07:24
>> cool. Yeah, that's00:07:25
>> It does seem that toffee sells on eBay00:07:29
for slightly more than it was paid for00:07:31
in the blind box.00:07:32
>> So, how easy was it for you to walk in00:07:34
and buy this in the blind box?00:07:35
>> Uh, that easy. I I walked into the00:07:38
Popart store and grabbed one of the00:07:40
blind boxes and took it to the register00:07:43
>> and uh corporate card.00:07:44
>> Are we past the major hyper00:07:48
>> the hardest part of the whole thing was00:07:49
that the corporate card does not have a00:07:51
tap chip? Um and I had to actually00:07:53
physically insert it. Um I do believe we00:07:56
I don't know if we're necessarily past00:07:57
the hype as much as every single thing00:08:00
is a recession indicator. Yeah.00:08:03
>> Um, but there were more than four blind00:08:07
boxes available for purchase in the NYC00:08:10
Oculus Walmart store.00:08:12
>> Yeah. >> Huh. Yeah. Nice perforated box. Nice00:08:15
perforated tag.00:08:16
>> Good build quality.00:08:19
>> I have no idea how much you spent, but00:08:20
without looking at the receipts on the00:08:22
corporate card, I'm going to That's what00:08:23
I was going to guess. $30.00:08:24
>> Yeah, it was it was I think before tax00:08:26
it was like 28 and after tax it was like00:08:28
31. Okay.00:08:29
>> Would you describe that as an experience00:08:32
worth $31?00:08:34
>> I can tell that this is not about the00:08:36
physical product at all because it's not00:08:37
impressive at all. It's definitely more00:08:39
about the social uh plugin and like00:08:44
relating to other people who got one and00:08:46
like the Pokemon card opening type of00:08:48
experience. It's like not really about00:08:49
the thing. It's more about the00:08:52
>> the stuff around the thing. The aura.00:08:53
The aura.00:08:54
>> The aura. The aura.00:08:55
>> Are you farming right now?00:08:57
>> This thing is for sure.00:08:58
>> Yeah. Yeah, >> we've blessed this episode with Lubu00:09:01
aura.00:09:02
>> Yeah. >> To every to everyone that begged me to00:09:05
buy Marquez Lubu after last week's00:09:07
episode, you know who you are.00:09:09
>> Yeah. >> You're welcome.00:09:10
>> You made this happen.00:09:11
>> Well, happy birthday.00:09:14
>> Thank you. >> Uh, I have another birthday gift for00:09:16
you.00:09:17
>> Oh, [clears throat]00:09:18
>> that is a segue.00:09:19
>> It's more dystopian [laughter]00:09:21
Nice.00:09:22
>> Okay, so this is actually what you asked00:09:24
for. >> This is actually a birthday gift for00:09:25
Ellis. Um, okay, Ellis.00:09:28
>> Yes,00:09:29
>> I know how much you let you love AI00:09:31
overview.00:09:33
>> I know that. And when I said that that00:09:35
Laboo sold for $170,000 at auction, it00:09:38
was an AI overview answer. It might be a00:09:40
lie. I'm not sure.00:09:42
>> But because I know how much you love AI00:09:44
overview, I've got a really fun new00:09:45
headline for you, which is00:09:48
>> in the Google Discover feed on some00:09:50
phones when you know the thing where you00:09:52
swipe over to the left. Yes. Um, notably00:09:54
my friend actually liked the articles00:09:56
that were being served to her because00:09:58
they were about chimpanzees.00:10:00
>> Uh, they are now experimenting with00:10:03
using AI to replace the headlines with00:10:06
like fourword headlines and it's going00:10:09
about as well as you would expect.00:10:12
>> This sounds like when Apple tried to00:10:14
summarize notifications and it just went00:10:16
horribly wrong. >> Yes. Yes. So, so here are some of the00:10:18
summarized headlines.00:10:20
>> Okay. PC Gamer Balders's Gate 3 players00:10:23
exploit children.00:10:26
>> Not what the article is about.00:10:27
>> Do you know what the article was about?00:10:30
>> No. [laughter]00:10:31
>> And like if I type that in00:10:32
>> isn't about that.00:10:34
>> I I think I found the article on Gamer.00:10:36
It's it's about how Balders's Gate three00:10:39
players have discovered that since kids00:10:41
are not killable in the game, they could00:10:43
control an army of them to make the game00:10:45
very easy, but they're virtual children.00:10:48
>> Maybe that not that far up.00:10:50
extremely far00:10:51
>> virtual children. That's true. Very00:10:52
different from real children.00:10:54
>> All right, here's another one. Uh, G200:10:56
slows older pixels.00:10:58
>> I have no idea what that could be about.00:11:00
>> That can't use G2 old.00:11:02
>> G2 is Oh,00:11:04
>> yeah. G2 is on the newest Pixel, not the00:11:07
older pixels.00:11:08
>> Uh, from the Verge, Microsoft developers00:11:10
using AI.00:11:12
>> Nice. [laughter]00:11:14
To be fair, that does narrow down a I00:11:16
should click this article. [laughter]00:11:19
>> Uh, RS Technica Steam Machine price00:11:21
revealed. It was not. [laughter]00:11:25
>> Are you serious?00:11:26
>> It was. Well, no, it was not actually00:11:28
revealed. >> I know. That's00:11:29
>> correct. Um, PC Gamer schedule one00:11:32
farming backup.00:11:36
>> Uh, probably a Farming Simulator00:11:38
headline of some sort. It's this like00:11:40
crazy game where you're like a you like00:11:43
grow drugs and sell drugs in this town00:11:45
and like you can um00:11:48
>> like experiment with it and feed it to00:11:50
the like uh people around the town and00:11:53
they get like00:11:55
>> they'll like vomit on the street and it00:11:56
was this crazy game that for like a00:11:58
month had a ton of hype. So there must00:12:01
have been00:12:02
>> uh not the Sims quite but yeah it's like00:12:05
drugs drug dealer simulator pretty much.00:12:08
I am getting flashbacks to Sim City and00:12:11
actually one of my favorite games of all00:12:13
time that I almost guarantee none of you00:12:14
played which is called Sidmer's uh00:12:17
civilization golf sim golf00:12:21
>> and you could build a golf course and a00:12:24
business around that golf course and you00:12:26
had to lay it out you bought a plot of00:12:28
land. >> This is the most00:12:30
Yeah. You bought a plot of land and you00:12:32
had to buy a plot based on how hilly it00:12:33
was or how flat it was and how00:12:34
malleable, how rocky or whatever. And00:12:36
then you start building and it costs a00:12:37
certain amount. You start off with a00:12:38
three-hole golf course, a little pitcher00:12:39
putt, and then you destroy things and00:12:41
you add new holes and you build a 9-hole00:12:43
course and 18 hole course. You build a00:12:44
whole business out of it until you have00:12:47
uh and then you build a golfer as well.00:12:49
God, and the soundtrack for this game00:12:50
was so good.00:12:52
>> This is the ideal Marquez video game.00:12:54
>> Yeah, I put a lot of hours into that00:12:56
game now I'm remembering it.00:12:57
>> Dang.00:12:58
>> Wow. >> Incredible. Good times. Anyway, last one00:13:01
uh from PC games and AI tag debate heats00:13:06
[laughter]00:13:07
>> what? >> Because they're just trying to use like00:13:10
as few words as possible. The I feel00:13:12
like the funniest thing about AI stuff00:13:14
is they're like we're going to pull all00:13:17
this stuff from articles that we didn't00:13:18
write, you know, into AI overviews and00:13:20
stuff and give terrible credit towards00:13:22
it. And now they're like, do you know00:13:23
what else we could do better than them,00:13:24
even though they're doing all of it in00:13:26
the first place?00:13:27
>> Rename their headlines. Like dude00:13:29
everyone online we are people like this00:13:32
is like a title is extremely important.00:13:34
I think the people writing these00:13:36
articles know how important the titles00:13:38
are and that some garbage blackbox LLM00:13:42
is going to do it better than00:13:44
>> Google forced this industry to be00:13:46
developed. Like Google forced the SEO00:13:48
industry. There are conferences. There00:13:50
are expos that people go to to talk00:13:52
about search engine optimization. And00:13:54
now Google's like00:13:56
>> we don't care that you did that. We're00:13:58
just gonna like randomly mess with it00:14:00
now. >> Yeah, that is not my favorite feature.00:14:03
>> Yeah, [laughter] >> it just feels like I've never worked at00:14:05
a tech company. I don't really00:14:06
understand how things go on in [snorts]00:14:07
there, but it just sort of feels like00:14:09
someone woke up some morning, some like00:14:12
VP, middle manager type person. I was00:14:15
just like, man, I haven't given anyone00:14:18
any new ideas in like a month. I got to00:14:20
I got to think I I I got it. Well, AI00:14:22
the the headlines. Yeah, I know we've00:14:26
already made all the videos and images00:14:28
slop. Let's make the headlines slop now.00:14:30
Anyway, the Verge did reach out to00:14:31
Google about this and their official00:14:33
statement was, "We are testing a new00:14:35
design that changes the placement of00:14:36
existing headlines to make topics easier00:14:39
to digest before they explore links from00:14:42
across the web. I want articles to be00:14:45
harder to digest by just the title and I00:14:48
want you to have to click it and go into00:14:50
it's more you're flat the more you00:14:53
flatten an idea the more it's going to00:14:55
be misinformation spread across00:14:57
>> one of the best things Twitter has ever00:14:58
done which was the00:15:00
>> please read this before you00:15:02
>> before you retweet it. It's like are you00:15:04
sure you want to because you could still00:15:05
read the article. That's00:15:07
>> that actually is one of my biggest00:15:08
gripes about AI overview just in Google00:15:10
is00:15:12
>> I can read it and be like, "Okay, that00:15:14
is exactly what I'm looking for. I just00:15:16
want to double check it because it's an00:15:18
AI overview." And then you click the00:15:19
link and then it shows like three00:15:21
articles that I possibly pulled that00:15:23
from. I just want to be like I just want00:15:25
where did this quote come from?00:15:26
[clears throat] Like00:15:27
>> this would actually be helpful cuz it is00:15:30
right some of the times. And when it's I00:15:31
just want to make sure it's right cuz I00:15:33
will never take it at face value.00:15:35
>> Yeah. and it makes that part really00:15:36
hard. That's my biggest frustration.00:15:38
>> Well, hopefully people will uh hate this00:15:40
as much as I do and they will not end up00:15:43
shipping this full time because it's00:15:44
just an experiment right now.00:15:45
>> How long until this comes to YouTube and00:15:47
we don't have to think about titles00:15:48
anymore? [snorts]00:15:49
that would that would hit so much harder00:15:51
for me cuz like I00:15:53
>> it's the packaging is part of the00:15:55
product00:15:56
>> in and that's like a generic statement00:15:58
about like every industry and every00:16:00
product but also with articles like the00:16:01
the headline and the the opening like in00:16:04
the newspaper this was true now about00:16:06
online articles the packaging is a part00:16:08
of the product and for us videos the00:16:10
thumbnail and the title even though you00:16:11
can AB test it or whatever it's still00:16:13
very true that the packaging is a part00:16:15
of the product it leads you in the00:16:17
thumbnail sometimes is the opening scene00:16:18
of the video, things like that.00:16:20
>> Uh, for AI to just gobble that up and00:16:23
summarize it, like we've seen that go00:16:25
poorly so many times. There's just no00:16:27
way that that works. Well,00:16:28
>> I think for people listening to us or00:16:30
even maybe in our shoes sometimes, it's00:16:32
it feels like it hits harder for if they00:16:34
took this to YouTube because it's so00:16:36
much easier to be personal on seeing a00:16:38
face, but like we probably know some of00:16:40
the people that wrote these articles.00:16:41
This is like 9 to5 Google. This is00:16:43
Verge. You just put an article on the00:16:45
Verge. Like this could have been yours00:16:46
up there that you took time to doing. We00:16:48
know people at 95 Google Android00:16:50
everywhere. And like00:16:52
>> these are actual people that think the00:16:54
same way we do. It's just a written form00:16:56
and you don't see their face.00:16:57
>> You guys are stuck in the past,00:16:58
[laughter] man. You're stuck in the00:16:59
past. Don't you realize that all00:17:01
Google's doing? They're lowering the00:17:03
barrier to entry, bro. It's like what if00:17:05
you really want to be a journalist, but00:17:07
like you're really bad at writing and00:17:09
you don't want to learn how to write.00:17:10
Now you can just have the AI do it for00:17:12
you. What if you want to review a phone00:17:14
but you just don't have the phone? It's00:17:15
just like AI can just see how the00:17:17
phone's doing online and00:17:18
>> get with the times guys like you should00:17:20
be able to do anything without trying00:17:23
and give Google money in the process.00:17:25
[laughter]00:17:26
>> There was there's a part of my brain00:17:27
that was like trying to reason with like00:17:30
the old skill that we had growing up was00:17:35
we wanted to find information on the00:17:36
internet. So, we had to learn how to00:17:39
Google something language.00:17:41
>> An SEO language. And not only that, then00:17:43
like how to navigate the top couple00:17:45
links to figure out like which sources00:17:47
you trust and like how to gather the00:17:49
information to find the answer.00:17:51
>> Yeah. >> And over time that became like the00:17:53
established thing that we all had to00:17:54
learn. And now there's kids growing up00:17:56
where they're going to Google something00:17:58
and they have to have a totally00:17:59
different mindset about how to find the00:18:01
right answer to their question, which is00:18:03
going to involve like a lot of times00:18:05
looking at an AI overview and then like00:18:07
clicking all of the links that it00:18:08
references and gathering that together.00:18:10
I don't know. Like I I want them to also00:18:13
have some sort of process that they can00:18:14
trust to find reliable answers to00:18:16
questions on the internet. And it's00:18:18
definitely going to be different today00:18:20
versus how we grew up 10 years ago. But00:18:23
I yeah, there it just doesn't seem like00:18:25
it's better. What Google wants is they00:18:26
want to make an answer engine, not a00:18:28
search engine. They want you to be able00:18:30
to just type a natural language question00:18:32
into a box and it just tells you and you00:18:34
don't have to go to a website. It just00:18:35
wants to be like the answer to00:18:37
everything in one little00:18:38
>> which is fine, but then let me go one00:18:40
level deeper.00:18:41
>> But it's not00:18:44
the information. >> If I Google like, okay, Samsung trifold,00:18:46
I don't mind them taking the top 1000:18:48
articles, summarizing it, and being00:18:50
like, this is a thing that happened. I00:18:52
should be able to click that and see all00:18:53
the actual articles like give me the00:18:55
answer. Sure. But then when I click it00:18:57
just pop up. >> Yeah. But I just think like the lowest00:18:59
common denominator is people generally00:19:00
are not going to go to those articles.00:19:02
You are because you grew up in an era of00:19:04
skepticism. >> It's kind of like commoditizing surface00:19:07
level knowledge. So it lets you like00:19:09
speedrun the beginning of learning about00:19:11
something into the middle. Like at the00:19:13
beginning of like you let's say we know00:19:14
nothing about what do we we know nothing00:19:16
about lemurs whatever like leoos, right?00:19:20
The first the first four or five Googles00:19:22
of me trying to figure out what lubusoos00:19:24
are in 2003 were like what does the word00:19:28
mean, where do they come from and like00:19:30
figuring all the stuff and like going to00:19:31
Wikipedia and reading a bunch of stuff.00:19:33
Now, the first four to five Googles is00:19:35
just giving me an AI answer where I just00:19:37
go, "What is a liaboo?" And it has OI00:19:39
overview and then I Google uh why are00:19:41
they so popular? And it gives me an AI00:19:42
overview. And then I just read the first00:19:44
three or four. And now I've just00:19:45
speedrun all of the like probably very00:19:48
useful understanding to just getting the00:19:51
high stuff00:19:53
>> and to Google that's a success for them00:19:55
because they keep you googling and00:19:58
that's great. >> Well, that's true. Yeah, that's true in00:19:59
everything that they're making. I mean,00:20:01
even with um anti-gravity with the00:20:03
coding stuff, it's like,00:20:04
>> yeah, you speedrun learning how to code.00:20:06
>> Yeah. You you're you're understanding00:20:08
the very very high level things of like,00:20:11
oh, I need a Google Maps API key. It00:20:14
told me that, but it did it for me. So,00:20:16
I don't know how to implement it00:20:18
or how it did it or why it did it or00:20:20
what it means to do that again or00:20:22
improve upon it. You just know that you00:20:24
did it, >> right?00:20:25
>> Tough. >> Not Not great.00:20:26
>> Not Not better.00:20:28
>> Not fantastic. >> Definitely not better. Um, well,00:20:30
>> man, you sound old on your birthday.00:20:32
>> I know these kids, [laughter]00:20:35
new title, old man yells at cloud. I00:20:37
feel like old man yelling at Cloud, but00:20:39
I I do think there is the cloud.00:20:41
>> Yeah, the cloud. Literally,00:20:42
>> I just want to throw out without getting00:20:45
too00:20:46
>> too late.00:20:47
>> Yeah, without getting too late. It's00:20:49
just like,00:20:50
>> you know, there's all this talk in the00:20:52
United States about how about about00:20:54
China's censored internet, you know what00:20:56
I mean? and how crazy it is that you00:20:58
can't Google certain things or certain00:21:00
information is just unavailable to you00:21:01
in certain countries, you know, uh and00:21:04
uh you know, when we live in the world00:21:06
where there's just an answer machine and00:21:09
there's no transparency as to where it00:21:10
gets its answers from, that's the same00:21:12
thing. That's that's that's exactly the00:21:14
same thing. All of a sudden, you could00:21:16
be like, "What's Plus?" and Google could00:21:17
be like, "There's no such thing as Plus.00:21:19
We we've never done anything that's00:21:21
stupid, you know, and then there'd be no00:21:23
way to fact check that." And uh that's00:21:25
>> we do ask it for sources like when they00:21:28
sort of start to put this they sprinkle00:21:30
the links in now for00:21:32
>> it's being clear that right now there00:21:34
are sources in all of this and it also00:21:36
is the top of a Google search where you00:21:38
can scroll past it and all of the normal00:21:39
links00:21:40
>> yeah also eventually all of these these00:21:43
companies do want what David's00:21:44
describing like like a spot that does00:21:47
not take you to any other places00:21:49
>> I'm just making sure we all right now00:21:51
that is not the situation we're in and00:21:54
>> it's where we're going though00:21:55
>> that's where we're heading >> it's the direction we're pointing. It00:21:57
doesn't mean we have to go all the way.00:21:58
>> It's definitely the direction,00:21:59
>> but it's the direction we're pointing.00:22:00
>> No, but that's like we've already seen00:22:02
it with Gracipedia. You know, that's00:22:03
literally the entire point of Graedia.00:22:06
>> I don't take Grock seriously in the00:22:08
least.00:22:09
>> Side note, I found it. You have to click00:22:11
the little icons and it shows you all00:22:13
the articles here.00:22:15
>> A tiny little tiny button you have to00:22:17
remember to find. Yeah. No, that00:22:18
button's the thing I don't like about on00:22:20
browser is it's like I wish it just00:22:23
brought me to the exact article, but00:22:24
it's usually when you click it, I'm00:22:26
clicking it at the end of a sentence,00:22:27
which probably should be just a sentence00:22:29
from an article, and then it shows me00:22:31
like three articles. So now I have to go00:22:33
back and find it in there. Like it I it00:22:35
should direct me to the sentence in the00:22:38
article, I feel like. And that would00:22:39
actually make it useful because then in00:22:42
one minute it can be true or false and I00:22:44
can confirm and it did actually do that00:22:46
actually. And so does so does AI00:22:48
overviews.00:22:49
>> If you click on >> No, AI I'm talking about AI over it.00:22:52
Like it has the link and then it shows00:22:53
me three articles by the sentence and00:22:55
then I have to go find it. Like it00:22:56
should just show me the article that it00:22:58
brought me to.00:22:59
>> In Gemini when it shows you sources on00:23:01
the side, if you click one of the00:23:02
sources, it automatically brings you to00:23:04
the part and it highlights it too where00:23:06
it took the information from.00:23:07
>> I wonder if we are in different stages00:23:08
of AI over because my AI overviews do00:23:11
that too. Like when I click on the00:23:12
little chain, it'll take me to the exact00:23:14
sentence in the article. Yeah, mine just00:23:16
did that as well.00:23:18
>> It's still wrong most of the time, but00:23:21
um >> yeah, I just Googled Sidmer's golf00:23:23
release date.00:23:24
>> Mhm. >> And the AI overview is correct. And then00:23:26
I click on it and it says it's pulling00:23:28
from Wikipedia and a fandom.00:23:30
>> Oh, and it is correct.00:23:31
>> And it's correct.00:23:32
>> Nice. >> Yeah, that's good. Wikipedia is correct.00:23:34
So, that was easy for them. That's true.00:23:36
>> Well, I looked up the milliamp hour00:23:38
battery life of a phone that I'm going00:23:40
to ask you about at trivia later and it00:23:42
linked to the Wikipedia thing and it00:23:43
just made up a number. It links to00:23:45
>> Is the Wikipedia right?00:23:47
>> No. No. The Wikipedia number was right,00:23:49
but the number it gave me in AI00:23:51
overview, despite linking and00:23:52
highlighting the number Wikipedia, was a00:23:54
different number.00:23:55
>> Wow. Nice.00:23:56
>> All right.00:23:57
>> Well, I have something positive to talk00:24:02
about.00:24:03
>> Really? Um, have you ever wanted to00:24:06
consume no00:24:07
>> YouTube shorts, Tik Tok, and Instagram00:24:11
reels at the exact same time00:24:13
>> with three different scrolls happening00:24:14
in three different rates?00:24:15
>> Do I have a phone for you?00:24:17
>> You ever wanted to watch Quibby, Tuby,00:24:18
and Phoebe at the same [laughter] time?00:24:22
>> Bring back Quibby.00:24:24
>> Too early. >> Galaxy Z Trifold.00:24:26
>> Z Trifold, baby. We finally got an00:24:28
announcement. We were waiting for this.00:24:29
They were saying by December. They00:24:31
technically did it December 1st,00:24:34
>> I think.00:24:35
>> So, to be clear, we got some00:24:36
information.00:24:37
>> Yeah, >> we didn't get a price yet.00:24:39
>> No, >> but we got uh we got to see the device.00:24:42
Oh, we did. >> Korean price.00:24:43
>> Okay. And we got to see the device in00:24:44
action. There's a couple YouTube videos00:24:46
out about it now and some specs. And we00:24:49
can see how it folds. So, there's the00:24:50
single display and then there's the00:24:52
unfolding the inside for the triple00:24:54
display. >> Explain how it folds to audio listeners.00:24:56
>> Okay. So, um, picture a picture one of00:25:00
those pamphlets, one of those trifold00:25:02
pamphlets, right? Where you have like a00:25:05
left, a right, and a middle. And just go00:25:07
ahead and fold the left and the right00:25:08
over each other. So, you have a single00:25:11
column. That single column is a 6 and 1200:25:13
in screen, single screen setup. And then00:25:15
you open both at the same time, and you00:25:18
have a 10-in tablet on the inside.00:25:20
>> So, there is no like two screen version00:25:23
because there's only a single or a try.00:25:25
But it's like one of those pamphlets,00:25:27
you know, like a big menu.00:25:29
>> Like a Yeah, a map. Yeah, like a map or00:25:32
I'm thinking of like the souvenir shop00:25:34
and like they have like a zoo. Like a00:25:36
brochure brochure. Thank you. Yeah.00:25:39
That's what I'm picturing.00:25:40
>> They should They should have just called00:25:41
it the Samsung Galaxy brochure.00:25:43
>> Yeah. So try.00:25:45
>> So this phone will have a Snapdragon 800:25:47
Elite for Galaxy, which is the last gen.00:25:49
It's not the 8 Elite Gen 5, but00:25:50
Snapdragon 8 Elite for Galaxy. It will00:25:52
be like I said 6 and a half inches on00:25:54
the front 1080p 120 Hz AMOLED. It will00:25:57
be 10 in 16 by 11 120 Hz 2160 by 158400:26:02
which feels low resolution00:26:04
>> a little low a little low but I think00:26:07
that will work handinhand with its 560000:26:09
mAh total battery which is not huge.00:26:13
It's a 10-in screen so I think having00:26:15
less pixels will be better for battery00:26:17
life. >> We're spoiled.00:26:18
>> Uh triple cameras. have a 200 megapixel00:26:21
main camera. Seems [clears throat] like00:26:22
a flagship camera. Haven't tested it00:26:24
myself yet, but that's a good sign.00:26:26
Also, a 12 megapixel ultrawide and a 1000:26:28
megap 3x telephoto,00:26:30
>> which to which a lot of people replied00:26:31
to my tweet, how will a 10 megap 3x00:26:34
telephoto be better than punching in on00:26:36
the 200 megapixel uh primary camera? To00:26:39
which I replied, eh, I don't know.00:26:42
Optics, the optics and the lens of the00:26:44
3x telephoto could make it feel better00:26:46
than the the crop on the primary. the00:26:49
photo sites are much larger on a 1000:26:51
megapixel.00:26:52
>> It Yeah. So maybe in lower light it will00:26:54
be better. So we'll see. We'll see.00:26:56
>> Um00:26:57
>> ironically cuz usually the telephoto is00:26:59
the worst at low light.00:27:00
>> Exactly. >> So00:27:01
>> uh titanium hinge, aluminum body, IP 4800:27:04
rating, and all the way unfolded it's00:27:07
all the way down to 3.9 mm all the way.00:27:09
>> Which is the thinnest Samsung phone00:27:10
they've ever made. Even thinner than the00:27:12
Fold 7.00:27:13
>> I don't know if you realize how thin 300:27:15
mm is. Like when we talk about the00:27:17
thinnest phones that we've seen so far,00:27:19
>> we're in the range of 5 to 6 mm. And00:27:22
those are that's like iPhone Air, that's00:27:24
S25 Edge. Those are 5 mm phones.00:27:28
>> 3.9 mm is crazy thin. I haven't held00:27:32
this yet, >> but watching the videos, it seems crazy.00:27:34
And to fit like meaningful compute and00:27:37
battery and storage and all that in this00:27:39
phone is genuinely impressive. Well,00:27:41
it's funny though because then when it's00:27:42
folded, it's apparently stupid thick.00:27:46
So, like this doesn't even feel like a00:27:48
normal phone. >> Yeah, exactly. Folding this thing up is00:27:50
going to be its weak point. It's going00:27:52
to feel like a chunk like a 12, 13 mm00:27:55
thick phone, which you guys probably00:27:58
haven't used a phone that thick in many00:28:00
years, but00:28:02
>> unfolded is is kind of the point.00:28:03
>> Big chunker. Unfolded, it's Yeah, it's00:28:06
it's 4.2.00:28:08
The Fold 7 was 4.2. So, it's it's00:28:11
slightly thinner than the Fold 7.00:28:13
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Which is crazy.00:28:15
>> Um >> the first iPhone was 11.6 millimeters00:28:17
thick.00:28:18
>> Yeah. This is thicker than that.00:28:20
>> Thicker [laughter] than that phone.00:28:21
>> It does do 45 watt wired charging, which00:28:24
is kind of surprising for something that00:28:26
thin. I'm curious about the heat00:28:27
dissipation.00:28:28
>> Yeah. What kind of heat dissipation?00:28:30
What kind of heat00:28:31
>> dissipation?00:28:32
3 mm thick. You can't have very much.00:28:35
>> Yeah. Uh 309 g. It's very heavy. The00:28:38
ZFold 7 was 215, so just add another00:28:40
third to that. [laughter] Yeah, as you00:28:42
would.00:28:43
>> Everything kind of steps up in thirds,00:28:45
right? 200 something grams for the dual00:28:47
screen.00:28:48
>> The battery capacity did not quite step00:28:50
up in third. >> True, true, true. Yeah, the price did.00:28:53
[laughter] >> It's true.00:28:54
>> So, what was the price? So, okay, people00:28:56
are expecting this to cost $2,800.00:29:00
That's about the conversion rate from00:29:02
from the Korean price. Okay.00:29:04
>> Which a $3,000 phone,00:29:08
>> but think about it. You have a 10-in00:29:10
tablet in your pocket now.00:29:12
>> Yeah, I know.00:29:13
>> I could get an iPad and an iPhone,00:29:15
>> but then you'd have to carry an iPad00:29:17
that you can't fold up and an iPhone.00:29:20
>> What if you could a MacBook?00:29:24
Well, what they need next is they need00:29:25
they need to make some sort of like00:29:27
omega thin keyboard and mouse because00:29:31
the whole the whole point for me for00:29:33
this is that I can just have a little00:29:35
laptop in my pocket at all times.00:29:37
>> Interesting. >> Like a 10-in laptop.00:29:39
>> Yeah. >> Um, you can use obviously a Bluetooth00:29:41
mouse and keyboard with it. And it has00:29:44
decks.00:29:45
>> I would like to see your decks, Adam.00:29:47
>> Yeah. Now Adam's in.00:29:48
>> I'm all in. Wait, can I have this huge00:29:51
screen so I can plug it into a bigger00:29:53
screen?00:29:54
>> No. Can I like fold it so that two of00:29:56
the screens are a screen and the third00:29:57
screen is the Huawei can do that. That00:30:00
can't do that. Annoying. Uh, but it does00:30:02
have a really interesting form of decks.00:30:04
So, there's the traditional Dex where00:30:06
you plug it into a monitor and then you00:30:08
can use it as a second display and it's00:30:10
like it's a 10-in second display so it's00:30:12
pretty big. But it also has a ondevice00:30:15
dex mode00:30:16
>> where you enable dex mode and it becomes00:30:19
basically like the tablet where00:30:20
everything all apps become windowed.00:30:22
>> So you can just like throw apps around00:30:24
instead of it, you know, taking up the00:30:26
full screen. They're all windowed. So00:30:27
it's sort of like what happens when you00:30:29
attach a pixel to a display and it00:30:31
becomes like the the Android on computer00:30:33
type thing, but it's just on your phone00:30:35
as a little tablet. Other cool thing,00:30:38
you can make app groups with it now. So00:30:40
you can make it so two to three windows00:30:42
always open up at the same time in00:30:44
certain um orientations. So if you're00:30:47
always like working on Google Docs on00:30:49
one and then you've got YouTube on00:30:50
another and you've got another thing on00:30:52
another, you can pin that to your00:30:53
taskbar and when you click it00:30:55
>> opens all of them at once00:30:56
>> in the same positions which is very00:30:59
cool.00:31:00
>> Adam is ringing ah on the inside.00:31:02
>> Yeah. I don't00:31:03
>> um Yeah, there was So there was a Mr.00:31:05
Who's the Boss video that went out about00:31:07
this? That was like probably the first00:31:08
video that went out. I think maybe him00:31:10
and SuperSoft put the same video out at00:31:11
the same time.00:31:12
>> Aaron said that it the inner glass is so00:31:15
soft that he leaned it against a vase,00:31:19
which I don't know what kind of vase he00:31:21
was looking at, but it's it produced00:31:24
very deep gouges in the screen by00:31:26
leaning it against a vase. Yeah,00:31:29
>> I mean it's that like soft screen where00:31:30
like I mean we've seen fingernails and00:31:32
that kind of stuff produce like dents.00:31:34
So I guess weight of phone plus leaning00:31:37
on a thing for a shot I'm guessing is00:31:39
>> but like deep gouges. Yeah, that's00:31:41
>> I mean like yeah00:31:42
>> red flag. It's kind of spooky. It kind00:31:44
of it gives me Galaxy Fold one vibes.00:31:47
>> I was thinking the same thing like this00:31:48
is a super super limited thing. This is00:31:50
two YouTubers who got to hand like play00:31:52
with it hands-on in Korea and that was00:31:54
it. And it'll slowly start to show up00:31:56
later I'm sure. But this is the type of00:31:58
thing where it's so expensive and it's00:32:00
so limited that they probably aren't00:32:03
going to have the masses [snorts] really00:32:05
approaching this thing and they can kind00:32:06
of handle the crazy crisis stories00:32:09
better than maybe the first fold which00:32:11
was everyone getting excited and then a00:32:13
bunch of YouTubers trying it and then a00:32:14
bunch of people breaking it.00:32:16
>> Yeah. Do we think it's any different00:32:17
from the fold screen? Like why would the00:32:20
material have to be different?00:32:21
>> It is different. I think because of the00:32:23
both folds and folds in I guess the same00:32:26
direction.00:32:28
>> I mean it's like still only 180° fold00:32:31
but it doesn't matter.00:32:32
>> I think it does. I think the key to like00:32:33
when So we saw this with the razor,00:32:35
right? So they had this like little00:32:37
piece of the chin where when you unfold00:32:40
it, it would dry it a little bit more00:32:41
screen out because when it folds it like00:32:44
>> pulls it up and when you unfold it, it00:32:46
stretches it over that crease. But00:32:48
that's why would that make a difference00:32:50
in what the material is rather than just00:32:52
how much room it has to move.00:32:54
>> A razor is just it gave itself more room00:32:56
to do that, >> right? Well, all these have some level00:32:59
of stretching over the crease to flatten00:33:01
it out. I'm saying when you have two00:33:03
creases, you have to stretch it twice as00:33:05
much. And so you probably need to to do00:33:08
accomplish that in the same amount of00:33:09
room, you have to make it softer.00:33:12
>> Yeah. So it's more total malleable.00:33:15
>> Yeah. Not just not just that, but like00:33:17
the when you like when you fold the00:33:19
screen, you're you're applying tension00:33:22
like because the screen is being00:33:23
stretched out, right? That tension is00:33:25
then dissipated over the entire rest of00:33:27
the screen. It's not like there's like a00:33:28
hard wall where the screen is clamped00:33:30
somewhere and the rest of the screen is00:33:31
not under tension but right next to the00:33:33
crease. So when you have two creases,00:33:35
there's now way less room for that00:33:38
tension to dissipate. You're applying00:33:39
all of that force into a much smaller00:33:41
area.00:33:42
>> Yeah.00:33:44
Well, >> I went to music school.00:33:45
>> I don't know if I believe [laughter] any00:33:46
of you.00:33:47
>> It's just I'm picturing because the00:33:49
first fold, the issue that they mostly00:33:51
dealt with was that uh that layer that00:33:54
they put on top of the soft glass was00:33:57
like not close enough to the edge and00:33:58
people would pull it off. Fold it off.00:34:00
>> But like that they have to put that on00:34:02
top because that is harder. And when you00:34:04
have that fold unfold, that hard layer00:34:08
on top is essentially eliminating the00:34:11
crease. Like we've seen some get really00:34:12
close to having no crease now. But I00:34:14
just feel like this one, I mean, if you00:34:15
seen the video, there's a ton of crease00:34:17
in these and it's inherently00:34:20
not as hard cuz it has to stretch twice00:34:24
instead of once.00:34:25
>> Uh, yeah, intuitively it makes sense to00:34:27
my brain. I can't really explain it very00:34:28
well, but I guess that's TBD on how00:34:31
durable this actually is.00:34:32
>> I'm picking up what you're putting down.00:34:33
Cool. Perfect. Maybe it's cuz you're 32.00:34:35
Maybe that's why. It's also IP48 is kind00:34:38
of creepy. >> It's not Yeah, it's not great. It it can00:34:41
it can withstand 1 millimeter or larger00:34:45
particles.00:34:46
>> Yeah, the dust part I'm not imp I'm not00:34:48
expecting much. I'm a little worried00:34:50
about that. But the eight is full00:34:52
submersion. No,00:34:54
>> like 1 meter or something. Yeah,00:34:56
>> I can dunk this under water.00:34:57
>> I mean that's that's [clears throat]00:34:58
more about the seals.00:34:59
>> They know the dust will break it before00:35:00
it goes into water. So00:35:03
>> Exactly. It's funny. I'd be more worried00:35:05
about larger particles because00:35:07
>> Dude, you don't want to see my pockets.00:35:08
I mean like folds generally what goes on00:35:10
in there.00:35:11
>> I wouldn't want to be in there.00:35:12
>> I feel like folds generally the issue is00:35:15
not that it's getting inside but that or00:35:17
inside the hinges, it's that it's00:35:18
getting inside when it folds. So now you00:35:20
fold it once and you have a particle in00:35:22
it and now you fold it again and smash00:35:23
the particle in even more. So now every00:35:26
piece that's inside your screen gets00:35:28
closed twice.00:35:30
And if it's if it's on the second one,00:35:34
>> so it's either getting in between two00:35:35
screens and fold it again or one side00:35:38
folds in and then it's between a screen00:35:39
and a hard piece, which means it's not00:35:42
getting absorbed by both sides. It's00:35:43
only getting absorbed by the screen00:35:45
side.00:35:46
>> For those that don't remember, the00:35:47
Galaxy Fold one, the screens were00:35:50
breaking immediately and they had to00:35:52
like do a little recall before they00:35:54
actually sold uh the devices and then00:35:55
they put a screen protector on it or00:35:57
whatever. I I don't know, man. I I feel00:36:01
like they would have learned their00:36:02
lesson by now, so I'm gonna like look at00:36:04
this with optimism.00:36:06
>> I tweeted this phone out.00:36:08
>> It [clears throat] feels sketchy to me.00:36:09
>> It definitely does. I I ended my tweet00:36:11
with like,00:36:12
>> you know what? Shout out to Samsung for00:36:14
being insane enough to try this cuz they00:36:16
don't have to try this. Huawei has done00:36:17
a00:36:18
>> trifold. Try00:36:20
it. Yeah.00:36:21
>> But yeah, they are they are crazy00:36:23
enough.00:36:25
>> Thanks. One thing I thought was cool was00:36:28
so in order to fold it, unfold it, the00:36:33
the screen that has the camera on it is00:36:35
actually a little bit wider than the00:36:37
other two screens. So it creates kind of00:36:38
a lip. So as you're holding in your00:36:40
hand, you can press your thumb down on00:36:42
that lip to then pop the first fold00:36:44
open. And then when that happens through00:36:46
a magnet, the interior screen kind of00:36:48
opens up a little bit, which gives you00:36:50
then a lip to pull it open.00:36:51
>> Is it the front screen that has the lip?00:36:53
>> No, it's the back screen. Oh, the back00:36:54
the camera. So you can kind of like hold00:36:56
[snorts] it open and then that part pops00:36:58
up a little. Um00:37:01
>> I thought that was a neat way of doing00:37:02
that because if you're just digging your00:37:03
fingernails into it to open it up time00:37:06
is probably not great.00:37:07
>> Yeah. So it comes with a case. Um and00:37:09
the case has a little kickstand on it.00:37:12
>> Back to the kickstand phones. Thank god00:37:14
we back.00:37:15
>> Uh that's nice cuz you're going to be00:37:17
able to, you know, use a mouse and00:37:18
keyboard with it. It also comes with a00:37:19
45 watt charger. At least where it's on00:37:22
sale right now.00:37:23
>> G2. I don't think it has G2. It does00:37:26
have wireless charging, but it's 1500:37:28
watt, so I don't think it's G2. Um, so00:37:31
it's it's coming out in Korea earlier,00:37:33
but it is launching in the US in Q1 of00:37:35
2026. Pretty incredible. I'm going to00:37:38
work to try to get my hands on this00:37:39
thing. I'm very curious about it. The00:37:40
Huawei Mate XT was a fascinating phone,00:37:43
but at no point would I like buy one or00:37:46
recommend one to anyone services on00:37:49
>> Yeah. But even just like as a hardware00:37:50
concept, it was like kind of insane.00:37:52
Yeah. >> Uh, this is Samsung. It's going to like00:37:55
really launch and really go on sale.00:37:58
Real people are going to be able to buy00:38:00
it.00:38:01
>> Uh, so I'm just curious to see how this00:38:02
goes. I'm going to try and see what what00:38:04
kind of usability it actually kind of00:38:05
wields for people.00:38:06
>> It is ironic that the Huawei Mate XT00:38:08
actually folded like a Z and this is00:38:11
called the Z trifold, but this folds00:38:13
like a U.00:38:14
>> Like a00:38:15
>> Yeah,00:38:16
>> like a G when it's fully folded.00:38:18
>> Yeah, it's true. Like a G.00:38:20
>> Yeah.00:38:21
>> Yeah. like a G00:38:22
>> six seven.00:38:24
>> Jesus,00:38:25
>> don't do this.00:38:27
>> You're joking. >> We have to go to [laughter]00:38:30
>> guys. We00:38:31
>> the life of a meme.00:38:32
>> Every year we inch closer and closer00:38:35
>> to hell00:38:36
>> to crumple phone. [laughter]00:38:38
>> Hey, not wrong.00:38:39
>> Um, can I share uh something someone00:38:42
sent on Discord about the trifold? That00:38:43
was funny.00:38:45
>> Um, this guy Elliot on our Discord said,00:38:47
"Samsung trifold and boxes are out. I00:38:49
showed my grandma a video and she said,00:38:51
"I'm getting better at spotting AI. That00:38:53
one was pretty obvious." [laughter]00:38:56
>> To which I say, "That's00:38:58
>> kudos, Grandma. I'm glad you're looking00:39:00
for >> I'd rather you air on that side." Yes.00:39:02
>> Honestly, >> I would say that the AI is probably more00:39:05
prominent for more people than foldable00:39:07
phones are.00:39:08
>> Oh, yeah.00:39:09
>> So, it would make sense that she had00:39:10
just never seen a foldable phone.00:39:12
>> I'd rather her live not knowing there's00:39:14
folding phones and be very wary of AI.00:39:16
Although, remember that granny in the in00:39:18
the airport that I saw with the the00:39:20
foldable phone?00:39:21
>> Do you think this granny knows more00:39:22
about the Apple Vision Pro or the Steam00:39:24
Deck?00:39:25
>> I can ask. I'll ask God. He'll probably00:39:29
listen to this [laughter] episode.00:39:30
>> Probably neither, man.00:39:31
>> There's probably a Vision Pro in the00:39:32
store she bought the phone in. Did she00:39:34
go in, though, or did she just have her00:39:36
daughter her daughter buy it for her?00:39:37
>> I think people go to stores in the US.00:39:39
>> A granny, though.00:39:40
>> Yeah, dude. Granny's love dinosaurs.00:39:43
>> Yeah, dinosaurs.00:39:45
>> Stores. The No, the the dinosaur00:39:47
experience that comes with the only00:39:49
thing the Vision Pro does.00:39:51
>> Oh, >> wow. Most exciting product of the year,00:39:53
huh?00:39:54
>> That's why I said it was the Steam Deck.00:39:55
>> And still more than the Steam Deck. I'm00:39:57
standing on it.00:39:58
>> Oh, yeah. That was obvious. Anyone who00:39:59
disagreed with us is a boron.00:40:02
>> Chad GPT was the correct answer. It was00:40:03
the most boring answer. We were thinking00:40:05
of physical gadgets.00:40:07
>> All right. Well, we got a lot more to00:40:09
talk about soon. We were going to put it00:40:10
in this section, but I feel like we00:40:11
should move it to the next section. So,00:40:13
u maybe let's throw it to trivia. And00:40:14
then we got a ton of Android features to00:40:16
talk about after that.00:40:17
>> Let's do it. So, please don't leave.00:40:20
Retention,00:40:21
>> guys.00:40:22
>> 3600.00:40:23
>> How did you know?00:40:24
>> That's just a shot in the dark.00:40:26
[laughter]00:40:28
>> No, I'm just kidding.00:40:30
>> Seconds in a day. [laughter]00:40:32
>> Um, guys,00:40:37
[laughter] >> what's that from?00:40:38
>> The office.00:40:40
>> It's from Isent. It's either rent or is00:40:44
it or is it in the Heights? I can't00:40:45
remember. >> No, it's okay.00:40:47
>> In the Heights.00:40:48
>> Uh, a few weeks ago, I asked if you00:40:50
wanted to do a question about socks or00:40:52
batteries, and you guys went with socks.00:40:54
And today, I'm going to finally get00:40:56
around to asking my dope ass battery00:40:58
question.00:40:59
>> I was hoping for socks, too.00:41:00
>> What was that sock question?00:41:01
>> It was about which sock is the cheapest00:41:03
or the most expensive. Oh, yeah. And it00:41:06
[clears throat] wasn't the iPhone sock.00:41:07
Or was it? I don't remember. Either way,00:41:08
guys, the new OnePlus 15, a uh a a a fan00:41:13
favorite around the office. I guess that00:41:14
doesn't make it a fan favorite. A00:41:16
favorite, a regular favorite. Just00:41:17
regular old favorite around Marquez's00:41:19
favorite. >> Marquez's favorite. It has crazy battery00:41:22
life. Everyone knows this. Um but you00:41:26
know what does not have crazy battery00:41:28
life?00:41:30
>> Oh, this is iPhone 12 mini.00:41:31
>> My iPhone 12 mini.00:41:33
>> Yeah. How many times larger in milliamp00:41:36
hours [laughter] is the OnePlus 15's00:41:38
battery than my iPhone 12?00:41:40
>> Are we going decimals battery?00:41:42
>> Yes. And we're going to do delta.00:41:45
>> Okay.00:41:46
>> How many times? [laughter]00:41:47
>> So, you are in you are encouraged to get00:41:50
as specific with decimal points as00:41:52
possible00:41:53
>> because it will likely [laughter]00:41:56
>> and I'm going to I'm going to add00:41:57
something here.00:41:59
>> No calculators.00:42:00
>> Well, yeah. We're doing long division00:42:02
today, boys.00:42:03
>> In your head.00:42:04
>> You can do long division on the00:42:05
whiteboard. >> Yeah. I have no idea how to divide these00:42:07
numbers.00:42:08
>> Make the house. Make the house.00:42:09
>> Make the house, bro. There's a house.00:42:11
>> House. Are you doing square roots over00:42:12
here? >> You guys rich or something? [laughter]00:42:15
>> No. Long.00:42:17
>> You guys need to go back to second00:42:18
grade.00:42:20
>> What? Were you born in 1948?00:42:21
>> It's been 20 years since I manually00:42:23
divided numbers.00:42:24
>> You [laughter] know what? Honestly.00:42:25
Honestly, real quick,00:42:26
>> let's do a mini mini rapid fire trivia00:42:28
round.00:42:29
>> Okay. Which of the following is the00:42:31
answer to a division problem?00:42:34
>> The dividend, the divisor, or the00:42:37
quotient?00:42:38
>> The quotient.00:42:39
>> I knew that. Yeah, I knew that.00:42:40
Dividend. >> I didn't understand.00:42:41
>> Diviser. Dividend to divisor. Numerator,00:42:44
denominator.00:42:45
>> Oh, he's cooking. He's cooking.00:42:46
>> The quotient is the answer.00:42:48
>> Wait. >> Okay. We had a question a couple weeks00:42:50
ago and I was like Marquez would know00:42:51
what the difference is. And now you're00:42:53
here. >> Okay.00:42:54
>> What is the difference between an ocean00:42:55
and a sea? Didn't we talk about this00:42:57
podcast C was that was while he was00:43:00
gone? >> Yeah, he was gone that week.00:43:02
>> I see. I don't00:43:03
>> I was like Marquez would know the answer00:43:05
because you know differences between I00:43:07
don't know if there's a formal00:43:08
difference. >> There is00:43:09
>> I know that a lake is an enclosed body00:43:11
of water and that an ocean is not00:43:13
enclosed uh but a sea [laughter] is that00:43:17
different from an ocean? I actually00:43:19
don't know. >> It is. All right. Well, we'll think00:43:20
about that and we'll either learn00:43:22
something new or we'll figure out what00:43:23
the answers are. Answer be at the end00:43:24
like usual. We'll be right back.00:43:29
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All right, welcome back. We got a bunch00:46:36
of new Android drops uh kind of out of00:46:38
nowhere. They are trying to make Android00:46:40
drops much more frequent so that there's00:46:42
big platform like instead of big00:46:44
platform releases where it's like00:46:45
Android 16, Android 17, there's just big00:46:48
new feature drops that come out through00:46:49
Android. Love it. And kind of out of00:46:51
nowhere, I believe it's yesterday as of00:46:53
time of recording, maybe 2 days ago, we00:46:55
got a lot of new features. Um, so we're00:46:57
just going to run through a lot of them.00:46:59
Some of them are Android wide and some00:47:01
of them are pixel drops. So, it's kind00:47:03
of those like, oh, this is on Pixel00:47:05
only. Maybe for now, maybe forever, but00:47:07
probably just for now.00:47:08
>> Kind of like AirDrop.00:47:10
>> Kind of like AirDrop00:47:11
>> until iPhone only for only 15 years.00:47:14
>> Yeah.00:47:15
>> So, [clears throat]00:47:16
let's just go through this. Circle to00:47:18
search scam detection.00:47:20
>> Upgrade to Circle to Search.00:47:22
>> Dope. >> Now, you can circle a scam or what you00:47:25
think might be a scam, which Adam's mom00:47:26
apparently needs.00:47:28
>> And this is so useful. It'll bring up a00:47:30
little thing that'll that guides you00:47:32
through why it may or may not be a scam.00:47:34
It it references it against all known00:47:36
scams00:47:37
>> and then it'll tell you, oh yeah, this00:47:39
is a common scam that does this, blah,00:47:40
blah, blah. You know,00:47:41
>> so this is great if it works.00:47:43
>> Yes.00:47:44
>> Cuz imagine you circle to search an00:47:46
actual scam, but it's so new that it's00:47:49
not referenced yet. It tells you it's00:47:51
not a scam. My other concern is that the00:47:54
people that will make the most benefit00:47:55
of this is pe the people that are not00:47:57
good at knowing what a scam is on their00:48:00
phone. And that demographic probably00:48:02
also doesn't know how to use circle to00:48:04
search. >> But they probably have a nephew that can00:48:06
be like, "Hey, real quick, just circle00:48:09
to search by doing this one two step."00:48:11
And it'll tell you. I will say that I00:48:13
just did circle to search on the message00:48:14
that my mom sent me, the screenshot of00:48:16
the obvious scam, and it said, "If you00:48:19
were not expecting this message or do00:48:20
not have a paid cloud subscription, it00:48:22
is likely a scam." So, it does do it.00:48:24
>> It's also like people search scams all00:48:26
the time. I got a letter in the mail the00:48:28
other day that looked super official to00:48:30
where like it had three perforations00:48:32
where you tear it kind of like like that00:48:34
usually means like check or it says open00:48:37
immediately on the front.00:48:39
The the funny thing was that initially00:48:41
got me is uh there was clearly a00:48:43
placeholder text in one part that it00:48:45
didn't change because I think it's was00:48:47
supposed to know who my lender was and00:48:49
it just said like lender in bold when it00:48:52
just didn't replace it. But anyways, I00:48:53
search the exact thing and just in00:48:55
Google's a million search results of00:48:56
like letter same exact amount same exact00:49:00
font. So like people search these so it00:49:02
has the database to be able to find a00:49:04
lot of you can't circle search a letter00:49:06
but I'm sure plenty of that happens00:49:08
>> Gemini live00:49:10
>> I think it's huge if it works Facebook00:49:13
are about to be real sad that all their00:49:15
scam things on Facebook aren't going to00:49:16
sell allegedly allegedly.00:49:18
>> Allegedly allegedly but yeah know like I00:49:20
what was it like 10 to 30 somewhere00:49:22
between 10 and 30% of their business00:49:24
allegedly might go down the tube00:49:27
>> yeah allegedly. Yeah, cuz that many00:49:29
people are going to use circle search. I00:49:31
don't know about that.00:49:32
>> They watch them make it so circles to00:49:34
search can't work inside of Facebook.00:49:35
[laughter] >> Oh my god. Yes. I want to these are00:49:38
first of all, these are the the00:49:39
Androidwide features for the phones that00:49:41
have these capabilities. Um Emoji00:49:43
Kitchen is getting new expanded sticker00:49:45
combinations.00:49:46
>> Not useful.00:49:48
>> Wow. >> But fun.00:49:49
>> They're different people. [laughter] I00:49:51
love Emoji Kitchen. It is fantastic. You00:49:53
can make monkeys hug each other on Emoji00:49:55
Kitchen.00:49:56
>> [snorts] >> That's the judge they used to but I'm00:49:59
saying not useful.00:50:00
>> All right. Call reason. This is00:50:02
interesting. You can now mark00:50:03
[clears throat] a call as urgent so that00:50:05
when the other person is getting the00:50:07
phone call it will say it's urgent on00:50:10
the call. So that is useful because00:50:13
sometimes people call me while I'm busy00:50:15
and I'm like I'm not going to answer00:50:16
right now. But if it did say urgent I00:50:18
would pick up and be like what's wrong?00:50:20
>> I can't wait to call Ellis at 3:00 in00:50:23
the morning with an urgent tag. And he00:50:24
goes what? and it'll be like you know00:50:26
nothing about C's. [laughter]00:50:29
>> Very interesting. >> So the caller,00:50:31
>> just to be clear, the caller marks their00:50:33
own call as urgent. Yeah.00:50:34
>> So that the receiver sees an urgent tag.00:50:37
>> Yeah. It'll have it put a little tag on00:50:38
it. This is urgent. I think it has to be00:50:40
Android to Android.00:50:41
>> But sounds like then you can circle to00:50:42
search the call [laughter] screen and00:50:45
>> can is is urgent the only tag?00:50:47
>> Yes.00:50:48
>> I would so much rather have one that00:50:50
says not urgent. So when I call my mom00:50:54
and she doesn't pick up when she sees00:50:56
that later.00:50:57
>> Parents have to assume the worst about00:50:59
every single phone call. So that can00:51:01
just be like,00:51:02
>> "Yeah, >> just wanted to lane just wanted to say00:51:04
hi." Like you don't have to stop00:51:06
everything you're doing to call me back.00:51:08
>> Well, I saw something online that was00:51:09
like I mean if you're calling me instead00:51:11
of texting me, it's probably urgent.00:51:14
>> So there is that.00:51:16
>> Um I they did call it call reason and00:51:18
not like urgent call. So, I'm wondering00:51:21
if they're planning on potentially00:51:22
adding more reasons later, like, "Did00:51:25
you pick up the groceries?" I don't00:51:26
know. >> At this point, just send a text. I guess00:51:28
it's crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah.00:51:29
>> I [clears throat] thought this was going00:51:30
to be just cuz this happened to me00:51:31
recently is I got a phone call from a00:51:34
number I didn't know, but rather than00:51:36
say probably spam, it just said00:51:39
potentially medical because it was a a00:51:41
new doctor I'd went to calling me back00:51:43
that I didn't have their name. And I was00:51:44
like, whoa, wait, that's actually really00:51:46
useful. I never pick up calls that I00:51:49
don't know the number to. And since it00:51:50
didn't populate, I was like, "Oh, this00:51:52
is probably who I think it is." And it00:51:53
was,00:51:54
>> right? Uh there's a new safety check00:51:56
feature in Google Messages. So, if00:51:58
you've ever been added to a group chat00:52:00
in Google, which you can now get added00:52:02
to in like Google Messages where it's00:52:03
just like usually it's like a Bitcoin00:52:05
group chat with like a thousand people00:52:07
in it. This happens in WhatsApp all the00:52:09
time.00:52:10
>> Um this is why WhatsApp is not very00:52:12
good. >> Has never happened to me, but okay.00:52:14
Well,00:52:16
>> Telegram though,00:52:17
>> I never get Telegram.00:52:19
>> Every other Tuesday,00:52:20
>> do you pay the I pay for it anyway.00:52:22
Okay.00:52:23
>> Uh, so now if you get added to one of00:52:25
these spam group chats, it will identify00:52:27
that and it will immediately have a00:52:29
little popup that's like, do you want to00:52:31
leave and report this00:52:33
>> immediately? So, it just assumes that it00:52:36
can sort of identify when things are00:52:37
kind of spam spam group chats, which is00:52:40
nice. Chrome on Android is now getting00:52:42
pinned tabs.00:52:44
So, if you're a big Chrome on Android00:52:46
person, you can now constantly have00:52:48
certain tabs that are always at the top00:52:49
of your tab groups.00:52:50
>> That's actually nice.00:52:51
>> I like that. >> There are now expressive captions across00:52:54
videos. So, when you're like watching00:52:55
captions on like YouTube or something,00:52:57
it will be like joyfully and then it'll00:53:00
put the caption, which is interesting.00:53:02
and it they're like colored and it's00:53:04
trying to like help you understand the00:53:06
energy that's coming from from the the00:53:09
speaker.00:53:10
>> Sarcasm in videos is going to get way00:53:12
funnier because it's00:53:14
>> so useful sarcastically00:53:16
>> or just like in not understanding it.00:53:17
It's going to be like joyfully but like00:53:19
Marquez is saying something super00:53:21
sarcastic about like a new feature on an00:53:23
iPhone and00:53:24
>> yeah, so that's that's coming to YouTube00:53:26
across all devices like immediately00:53:28
which is cool. uh the guided frame00:53:30
feature which is sort of the people with00:53:32
um disabilities who cannot really like00:53:36
have trouble using their phone camera00:53:38
and it speaks out to them and says like00:53:40
where to move it so that they can center00:53:42
on the thing.00:53:43
>> That's getting a lot better. Um you can00:53:46
now tell Gemini to make uh changes while00:53:48
you are voice typing.00:53:50
>> So you can type out a message and if you00:53:52
decide you wanted to change something00:53:54
you say actually change the part that00:53:55
says this to this and it'll do that.00:53:57
>> Wow. I would never that's the type of00:53:59
thing that I would like see my parents00:54:01
do and I would be like stop you can't00:54:02
that doesn't work it doesn't and then00:54:04
just starts typing it starts typing what00:54:05
they were saying [laughter]00:54:07
>> but the fact that it'll actually do that00:54:08
now would have be kind of awesome00:54:11
>> stop like so you write the whole you00:54:13
speak the whole message out00:54:15
>> you have to then stop and then say00:54:17
change this part00:54:18
>> um or not completely sure I think you00:54:20
can do it00:54:22
>> I think you can do it fluidly you don't00:54:24
identify when you're saying certain00:54:26
things like Hey Marquez, I'm gonna be a00:54:27
little late to work. Uh, wait, erase00:54:29
that part. I'm gonna be really late to00:54:31
work. Like, it will do that mids00:54:33
sentence and not just type the whole00:54:34
thing. >> I thought it already did that.00:54:37
>> Maybe I don't I don't use00:54:39
>> I'm textual specifically cuz the text00:54:41
speech is really good. >> The text to speech is really good, but I00:54:43
haven't had I haven't been able to go00:54:45
back and edit parts of what I already00:54:47
typed.00:54:48
>> I think it's specific like key phrases00:54:50
that will trigger it like that. Like00:54:52
what you said, Andrew, it would actually00:54:53
do that. Wait, actually erase like it'll00:54:56
go back and00:54:57
>> erase. That's pretty awesome.00:54:58
>> So that's pretty cool. There's now00:54:59
better voice dictation that lets you00:55:01
edit certain words or shorten messages00:55:03
automatically. Um and then there are00:55:05
also better parental controls that make00:55:07
it easier to be a parent, I suppose.00:55:09
>> Boo.00:55:11
[laughter]00:55:13
>> Lame.00:55:15
>> 32. [laughter]00:55:17
Um okay, we're adults.00:55:20
>> Wait, so all of those are coming to all00:55:21
Android devices? Uh yeah, that's like00:55:23
the platformwide. And then there's00:55:26
Android 16 QPR to pixel drop.00:55:30
>> There's too many acronyms. Um okay,00:55:33
actually useful notification summaries.00:55:35
So now allegedly, we'll see about that.00:55:38
>> Yeah, right. I'll be the chick.00:55:39
>> So this is like a more thoughtful00:55:42
version of Apple's notification00:55:43
summaries. If you either have a very00:55:46
long message or you have a notification00:55:48
from a group chat, it will summarize it.00:55:50
But then you can click the little00:55:52
dropown menu and it'll just show you the00:55:54
whole thing. It'll also show you like00:55:56
the messages from the group chat in the00:55:58
little dropown thing or it'll show you00:55:59
the whole message. But overall it'll00:56:01
just summarize it if it's a super long00:56:02
message or if it's a group chat.00:56:04
>> So it doesn't do like all notifications.00:56:06
It's just like per app.00:56:08
>> It's like group messages.00:56:09
>> Yeah, it's like in messages. This is00:56:11
going to hurt so much more when you get00:56:14
broken up with over a text message and00:56:15
it's a really long thoughtful thing and00:56:17
then Google's [clears throat] just like00:56:19
chained to you. [laughter]00:56:20
>> Well, there's that famous like cuz you00:56:22
know how iMessage will do the like00:56:24
animations when you say certain words.00:56:25
There's like this famous screenshot00:56:27
where someone says, "Congrats, you threw00:56:29
away our entire relationship for for a00:56:31
guy." And it's got00:56:33
>> streamers. Yeah. [snorts]00:56:35
>> On Samsung. It's like the wacky00:56:36
[laughter] waving like inflatable arm00:56:38
guy.00:56:42
talk.00:56:43
>> Um, okay. There's notification00:56:45
organizer. So now your notifications get00:56:47
separated into categories, which is so00:56:49
useful. So now it'll be like news. It'll00:56:52
be like it'll be like offers, that kind00:56:55
of stuff. So you just I love that. I00:56:57
think that's amazing.00:56:58
>> Where is this?00:56:59
>> In your notification shade.00:57:01
>> So they're just turning into like Gmail00:57:02
kind of00:57:03
>> the old inbox used to do.00:57:05
>> Yeah. Sort of00:57:06
>> like those like pre-made. You can kind00:57:08
of think about it in a similar way.00:57:09
>> Okay.00:57:10
>> Your notifications are00:57:11
>> just your inbox for your whole phone.00:57:12
>> Yeah. >> Basically.00:57:13
>> Yeah. >> Yeah.00:57:14
>> Which is different types of stuff. Um00:57:16
and it'll silence lower priority ones so00:57:18
that you don't have to deal with like00:57:19
random little offers and stuff like that00:57:21
which is nice. They now have custom icon00:57:24
shapes so you don't have to just be00:57:27
circles anymore. You can be like little00:57:28
weird X thing. You can be like00:57:31
>> squirles. >> Yeah. Just different. There's like a00:57:33
triangle one, like a one that's like00:57:34
flat on the bottom, but then like a half00:57:36
circle on the top. Very strange. They're00:57:38
kind of just, you know, they're they're00:57:40
leaning into the material. U kind of00:57:41
>> a lot of other launchers have this, too.00:57:42
This is just like one more customization00:57:44
for your home screen.00:57:45
>> Yeah. Yeah.00:57:46
>> Uh expanded themed icons. So, before it00:57:50
was like you would you would theme all00:57:51
the icons, but there would be of course00:57:53
like one or two apps that didn't support00:57:54
it and it looked horrible. Now, they00:57:57
truly will force it on every single app.00:57:59
So, it will work for every single app.00:58:02
>> Are you Are we sure? The amount of times00:58:04
I've heard this will for sure work. It00:58:07
does work. But I will say it doesn't00:58:09
work in the drawer. The drawer is still00:58:11
just a regular.00:58:12
>> Yeah. Which is >> I'm a little I'm more okay with that.00:58:14
But00:58:15
>> yeah,00:58:16
>> there I'm there will be one icon that00:58:18
does not work some.00:58:19
>> Well, Duolingo famously changes its icon00:58:22
all the time. And it does have like it00:58:24
did work on Dolingo. So, if it worked on00:58:26
Dolingo, I would imagine it works on00:58:27
everything else. Yeah. Okay,00:58:28
>> we did [clears throat] it. [laughter]00:58:30
>> We're here.00:58:31
>> There's now an option to force dark mode00:58:33
on every app as well. So apps that don't00:58:35
have a dark mode, it'll basically just00:58:37
like invert the white colors to black.00:58:39
But it does it in a like smart dynamic00:58:41
way. You know what happened to me00:58:43
recently? I saw a screenshot on Twitter00:58:45
of Spotify light mode and I went, "Wait00:58:48
a minute. [laughter]00:58:50
>> I've never seen Spotify light mode." And00:58:53
I actually went into Spotify and started00:58:54
digging through settings. I was like,00:58:55
>> "Is there actually a light mode in00:58:57
settings?" >> I found that there is not. Somebody just00:59:00
inverted Spotify.00:59:02
>> Oh. >> And it kind of looks decent. I'm sure00:59:04
Almartart looks weird, but um yeah,00:59:06
there is no light modes for Spotify.00:59:08
>> Interesting. Yeah, I'm interested in00:59:10
this one because without that, I already00:59:12
have this issue where sometimes on my00:59:14
Pixel, it decides that uh so like the00:59:17
notification bar on the top that has my00:59:20
time and battery percentage, it won't00:59:22
invert that correctly with the mode of00:59:23
the app that I have open. So, let's say00:59:26
I have YouTube open and it's got a white00:59:29
background. It won't change the time and00:59:32
battery to now invert to black. So now00:59:34
it's just fading into We I showed you00:59:36
this the other day or sometimes Yeah.00:59:38
like it's supposed to be black text and00:59:40
I have a dark mode thing and I just lose00:59:42
my battery percentage and00:59:44
>> because it disappears.00:59:45
>> Yeah. And I'll close the app and open it00:59:46
back up and that'll fix it. But like I00:59:48
have very little faith in this if it's00:59:50
already screwing up that normally.00:59:52
>> Yeah. Yeah. This is kind of just a lot00:59:54
of features that they announced a long00:59:55
time ago, but they are like I swear it00:59:57
works now. [laughter]00:59:58
>> On Godfree.01:00:00
>> No cap. No cap. Um, you have expanded01:00:02
split screen options to like have01:00:04
multiple apps open. And now you can you01:00:06
can like drag one to like show the01:00:09
amount that you want the app to be open.01:00:11
There's even a 9010 split. So you can01:00:14
have an app open 10% and then have the01:00:17
other app open 90%.01:00:19
>> It's like a sliver of the top of the01:00:20
app. >> Yeah. You got your little app ticker.01:00:22
>> 90% waveform podcast, 10% [laughter]01:00:25
homework notes. You should really be01:00:26
studying.01:00:27
>> Wow.01:00:28
>> Exactly. So that's that that feels like01:00:30
they are putting it in it to prepare for01:00:32
more foldable stuff to be honest just to01:00:34
be able to be more more malleable in01:00:35
that way.01:00:36
>> One of the biggest changes which Adam um01:00:38
actually posted about on threads01:00:40
>> you can now not on threads he post about01:00:42
this in the slack you can now adjust the01:00:45
intensity which HDR content displays01:00:49
>> there's a slider now so it'll show you01:00:52
like the brightness that the HDR content01:00:54
comes through. >> I'm dragging it all the way up01:00:56
>> Marquez. I'm dragging it all the way.01:00:57
>> That's what it was.01:00:58
>> I want it. I want to be scrolling with01:01:00
low [laughter] brightness01:01:02
>> and I want to see your your picture on01:01:04
Instagram and just boom.01:01:05
>> Marquez wants that flashbang01:01:08
in his bed.01:01:09
>> I want that [laughter] impactful media.01:01:10
>> I just want to turn it all off.01:01:12
>> Turn it all the way up. >> I hate HDR. And then I wrote think01:01:16
[laughter] below that. Um, okay. Uh,01:01:20
there is a new remove toggle when you're01:01:22
removing apps from your home screen. So01:01:23
now you don't have to like click and01:01:24
drag to the little like X in the top or01:01:27
bottom or whatever. Um when you like01:01:30
when you press on it, there's just a01:01:32
little remove like option.01:01:34
>> Lots of other launchers have that01:01:35
already also. >> Yeah, it's faster. Yeah.01:01:36
>> Wait, no. Just dragging it to this trash01:01:38
is faster.01:01:39
>> I don't think so cuz you have to you01:01:40
have to like long press it and then drag01:01:42
it. >> That's always been faster for me cuz01:01:44
there's always like five little there's01:01:45
like uninstall uh view info uh and then01:01:49
the short whatever shortcuts there are.01:01:50
So, if it's a calendar event, it'll be01:01:51
like if it's if you long press on the01:01:53
calendar icon, it'll show new event,01:01:55
view calendar, uninstall, close, remove,01:01:58
and I have to find, remove every single01:02:00
time. So, I just found that just01:02:01
highlighting and just dragging them to01:02:03
the trash is faster.01:02:04
>> Adam, do you have this yet?01:02:05
>> Yeah, it's awesome. It's just like um01:02:09
not smart launcher.01:02:10
>> Is there a chance you could accidentally01:02:12
press remove? >> Can you show?01:02:13
>> Yeah, it's01:02:14
>> You have to find it every01:02:16
icon and it just pops up like one of the01:02:19
little options there. is just remove.01:02:21
>> So that has a bunch of other Yeah. a01:02:23
bunch of other01:02:24
>> That's one of those things where I'm01:02:25
going to love that, but when my mom01:02:27
tells me like Facebook is off my phone,01:02:29
it's like you probably accidentally long01:02:31
pressed and hit remove.01:02:32
>> Oh my god. [laughter] >> I have to find remove.01:02:34
>> It's the top. It's the first01:02:36
>> I know it's in a different place every01:02:37
time. Like in Instagram it was it's the01:02:40
top this time.01:02:42
>> Change. >> There is a new quick adding of app01:02:45
shortcuts in that same menu.01:02:46
>> This is awesome.01:02:47
>> Yeah. So, [clears throat] Adam, you want01:02:48
to explain that since you have it on01:02:49
your phone?01:02:50
>> Yes, I have this already. And this is01:02:52
basically the same uh little gesture if01:02:54
you just like long press something.01:02:56
Certain apps have like quick functions01:02:58
you can do01:02:59
>> like uh for example, Dualingo, if I long01:03:01
press, we'll just say, do you want to01:03:02
open Dolingo or do you want to like jump01:03:04
straight into a lesson? So, instead of01:03:06
always clicking Dolingo, always clicking01:03:08
to my most recent lesson, I can do one01:03:10
of these app shortcuts and just hit do a01:03:12
lesson and it pops up as like a little01:03:14
shortcut on my like home screen. Oh,01:03:16
that's >> So, and I can remove the actual Dolingo01:03:18
app and just have that there. So, I can01:03:20
just go straight into a lesson every01:03:21
time.01:03:22
>> That's nice. >> There's a bunch of other apps that like01:03:24
also have similar things like uh01:03:26
YouTube. You can jump straight into01:03:28
shorts if you want. For some reason, you01:03:30
could jump into subscriptions.01:03:32
[laughter] >> Wow. Of course, they would add that.01:03:36
>> There's a reason I chose YouTube. But01:03:38
yeah, there's like a not all apps have01:03:40
this. I think it needs to be like01:03:41
implemented by the developer obviously,01:03:42
but like the WNBA app, I just have it01:03:44
straight up to give me the schedule.01:03:46
Just like the games, show me the next01:03:47
games. That's it. I don't need to go01:03:48
through looking through a Yeah, it's01:03:51
pretty cool. >> That's nice.01:03:52
>> If Instagram has a shortcut to go01:03:54
straight to reals, we just brought back01:03:56
IGTV.01:03:58
>> It's essentially what it was. Yeah,01:04:00
>> it was a separate app just real.01:04:02
>> We did.01:04:03
>> Um, okay. There's a new widgets view.01:04:06
So, if you we remember, Android only01:04:08
decided to care about widgets again01:04:09
after Apple started doing widgets stuff,01:04:11
but better because they hadn't updated01:04:13
them since like 2012. Now, there's a01:04:15
very rich widget showcase that has two01:04:19
little options. There is a featured tab01:04:21
and there is a I wrote it down here. Uh,01:04:25
where is it? Yeah, featured tab. Oh,01:04:27
sorry. There's a featured tab and there01:04:29
is a browse tab. The featured tab will01:04:31
show like the richest, most fun, most01:04:33
interesting widgets that it assumes you01:04:35
want to use. And then the browse will01:04:37
just like kind of showcase all the01:04:39
widgets. What's nice about it is that01:04:40
it's rich so it shows them sort of01:04:42
moving and doing the things that they do01:04:44
instead of the old version of adding01:04:46
widgets where it was just like you to01:04:47
select from a number and you didn't01:04:49
really know what they looked like and01:04:50
all this stuff. And yeah, it's much01:04:52
better now. Um, Quick Share now allows01:04:56
you to do the tap thing that you can do01:04:57
on iPhones where you tap your phones01:04:59
together. So, if you have Quick Share01:05:01
on, you can tap to connect to another01:05:04
>> work with an iPhone.01:05:05
>> No.01:05:06
>> Just01:05:07
>> Do you think it does like a cool01:05:08
animation? >> No.01:05:09
>> Really? >> It doesn't. I saw someone demo it. It01:05:11
doesn't do an animation.01:05:12
>> How have I never realized that like01:05:14
>> the tap to share things kind of like two01:05:16
phones dabbing each other up or like01:05:18
[laughter]01:05:19
>> send me your contact info?01:05:22
Yeah,01:05:23
>> works to me.01:05:24
>> A lot of these features, is this the01:05:25
first time we've seen Google do Android01:05:29
stuff that iOS had already implemented01:05:32
and not the other way around?01:05:33
[clears throat] >> No, no, it's it's this has happened many01:05:35
times. They stole from each other.01:05:37
>> Okay. I thought it was always Apple just01:05:38
copying.01:05:39
>> It was at the beginning.01:05:40
>> Okay. >> And then they would innovate and then01:05:41
Android was like01:05:43
>> this is almost Google copying other01:05:46
launchers. Like they're making pixel01:05:48
launcher just like straight01:05:49
>> up just like oh you wanted this here it01:05:52
is now if I could just get rid of the at01:05:53
a glance widget that'd be great.01:05:55
[laughter] >> Oh my god. Yeah. How is that not I would01:05:58
return all of these01:06:00
>> just to remove at a glance on my home01:06:02
screen. >> Oh my gosh.01:06:03
>> It's insane.01:06:04
>> What is at a glance?01:06:05
>> It's this thing.01:06:06
>> Oh god. I don't know what it is.01:06:09
>> But Ellis, this is why it's insane. It01:06:11
takes up a part of your home screen and01:06:14
can be a bunch of small little01:06:15
notifications or the weather or time.01:06:18
>> You can turn it off, but it keeps it01:06:20
there.01:06:22
>> Just it doesn't give you the01:06:23
notifications. You can never take it off01:06:25
of your home screen.01:06:26
>> It's permanent real estate.01:06:29
>> And then it just goes like the date and01:06:30
time, which I already have01:06:33
>> in the corner. And I have my clock01:06:34
widget that I like. Clock widget is01:06:36
almost unnecessary with that, but I01:06:39
still prefer a bigger clock. But that01:06:40
means I also have to have at a glance.01:06:43
If there if there's01:06:46
>> something I can't wait to be on killed01:06:48
by google.com, it's at a glance widget.01:06:49
[laughter]01:06:52
>> Okay. There are expanded biometrics01:06:54
options. So you can select apps that you01:06:56
want to force to use like face detection01:07:00
for phones that support, you know, face01:07:02
their version of Face ID,01:07:03
>> which is, you know, not usually not IR,01:07:06
but you can force it to have additional01:07:09
security through face unlock, which is01:07:11
helpful.01:07:12
>> Uh, and then little small thing, there's01:07:15
now a time zone changed notification01:07:18
that you can enable. So if you live in01:07:20
the European Union, you love trains, and01:07:22
you're not sure01:07:24
>> [laughter]01:07:25
>> as you know, >> as you do, and you're not sure if your01:07:28
phone has updated the time zone yet,01:07:29
which is important for when you're01:07:31
setting calendar appointments and you're01:07:32
doing all that kind of stuff, you can01:07:34
now make it so your phone will give you01:07:36
a notification saying the the time zone01:07:38
changed to this time zone.01:07:40
>> That's sick. >> Yeah, very useful.01:07:42
>> I immediately thought of a short01:07:45
where you go on the the line of a time01:07:47
zone difference and you jump back and01:07:49
forth between it and see how many01:07:50
notifications you That's another one of01:07:51
those things that's like oceans and01:07:53
seas. Like when am I actually in the01:07:55
other time zone? Like I know that01:07:56
there's a time zone line on a map,01:07:58
>> but is it really like a twoft between01:08:01
time zones? There's no way like I can01:08:02
step two feet over.01:08:04
>> Time isn't real, Marquez.01:08:05
>> I mean, I know that to Arizona. We know.01:08:08
>> I think I'm developing this too much as01:08:10
like that one spot in Arizona where you01:08:12
can jump between like four states,01:08:14
>> which that part is real, which is super01:08:16
cool. I just wonder like real01:08:18
>> whenever [laughter] I01:08:20
>> whenever I land at an airport in a new01:08:22
time zone and I take my phone off01:08:24
airplane mode, it takes like 10 seconds01:08:25
and it like goes, "Oh, you're in a new01:08:27
time zone." And it just changes the01:08:28
clock. Nothing happens. So, it's like01:08:29
cool that it'll tell me I'm in a new01:08:31
time zone. But I do wonder where exactly01:08:34
does that switch over.01:08:36
>> Yeah, there's probably there's got to be01:08:38
a little I want to know. I kind of want01:08:40
to >> What do you mean? It's just the state01:08:42
lines. >> Yeah, but is it01:08:43
>> in the US it's the state lines? So if I01:08:45
cuz when I'm driving on a road and I see01:08:47
the welcome to New York sign, that's not01:08:49
the exact state line of00.01:08:53
>> If there's no people in a place,01:08:56
>> it doesn't matter what time. >> Actually, multiple people.01:08:57
>> Yeah,01:08:58
>> multiple states have and it's not the01:08:59
state line,01:09:00
>> but there's a there's a time zone line,01:09:03
let's say in Ohio, right?01:09:06
>> Michigan. Michigan's the farthest one01:09:08
in. So, if I live on one side of the01:09:11
line >> and I drive my car to the next town01:09:14
over,01:09:15
>> on the other side of the line,01:09:16
>> my phone will switch.01:09:17
>> Yeah.01:09:18
>> At what moment is my phone triggered to01:09:20
switch? Is it when my GPS coordinates01:09:23
are exactly 1 meter past an exact line01:09:26
which is somewhere?01:09:27
>> I would imagine so. Yeah.01:09:28
>> And then can I just ping back and forth01:09:30
over that line by like 2 yards and01:09:32
switch my time zone back and forth? This01:09:34
is useless.01:09:35
>> I think it will. Yeah.01:09:36
>> I would imagine so. Yeah. I just want to01:09:39
check. I don't think it's I don't think01:09:40
it's stateines. Are there confusing01:09:43
there states in multiple time zones?01:09:45
>> According to this map and this is not an01:09:47
AI overview. [laughter]01:09:49
>> Yeah. >> Um but it's funny cuz I didn't think it01:09:52
then you said that. I was like that01:09:53
would make the most sense like because01:09:54
it's weird to be in the same state on01:09:56
multiple lines.01:09:57
>> Time zones in general don't make sense.01:09:59
Tom Scott has a great video about this01:10:00
from like a decade ago.01:10:02
>> I have to tell me and I agree.01:10:04
[laughter] I just would like to this is01:10:06
like this is something I would do for a01:10:07
YouTube short is just go to the line01:10:10
with my phone and just walk across the01:10:12
line and see what happens. >> Well, what's confusing though also else01:10:14
is it looks like sometimes it uses a01:10:16
state line01:10:17
>> and sometimes it doesn't.01:10:19
>> That's wrong.01:10:20
>> It seems like01:10:21
>> Texas Kansas01:10:24
brutal [laughter]01:10:26
>> for more than that reason.01:10:30
>> I'm not even talk about time zones.01:10:32
[laughter] >> I I shouldn't I was right. Michigan is01:10:34
the far. I mean, unless you count that01:10:35
little sliver of Indiana.01:10:36
>> There's a little sliver of Indiana.01:10:38
>> Yeah. But01:10:39
>> Wow. >> That's why uh Michigan is so fun in the01:10:42
summer because it's so far west that the01:10:45
sun doesn't set until like 9 or 10 p.m.01:10:48
>> That's nice. That's awesome. >> It's so fun.01:10:49
>> Wow.01:10:50
>> Isn't there a city in Michigan about01:10:52
time zones? >> Yelled at a couple months ago. Anyway,01:10:55
>> Detroit. [laughter]01:10:56
>> What's really funny is I talk all this01:10:58
smack about Detroit, which then gets cut01:11:00
from the podcast. I really hope. My01:11:02
Safari uh my my Safari like when I open01:11:05
Safari the default background is Cade01:11:07
Cunningham. So play off Cade.01:11:09
>> All right. That was a basketball01:11:10
reference.01:11:11
>> Kades really good right now.01:11:12
>> Yeah. Chris Paul, too.01:11:14
>> Too01:11:15
>> too soon.01:11:17
>> That's going to age really poorly if01:11:19
something crazy comes out in the next01:11:20
two [laughter]01:11:23
>> anyway. Are they like Okay. Anyway,01:11:26
sorry. Time zone change.01:11:28
>> Time zone change on Android. Biggest01:11:30
feature. Um, that's about it for that.01:11:33
So, so if you got a Pixel or you're on01:11:35
Android, exciting times. It's kind of01:11:38
I'm kind of jealous. I've been on iOS01:11:40
for a little bit now and I'm pretty01:11:41
jealous that they just get like random01:11:43
feature drops.01:11:44
>> I will say it has been very nice being01:11:46
on Android this time around. Like every01:11:48
year I jump back and forth and I stand01:11:50
by it that iOS I think has better apps,01:11:52
but Android as an operating system is so01:11:56
fun,01:11:57
>> dude. It's so much more fun. Liquid01:11:59
liquid ass is so bad.01:12:02
>> It's so bad. And like and material 301:12:05
expressive horrible name is great.01:12:08
>> Or like material P expressive.01:12:12
[laughter]01:12:14
>> I got it was on brand.01:12:16
>> Yeah, >> that's incredible. Excuse me. Material01:12:17
Lemonchello.01:12:18
>> Right. Right. Lemonchello.01:12:20
>> Do you want to talk about YouTube01:12:21
recaps?01:12:22
>> Why don't we make after the next ad01:12:23
break all our recap news?01:12:25
>> All the recap stuff cuz it's all recap01:12:27
news. All01:12:29
right, just to wrap it up, uh related to01:12:32
last week, last week we talked about how01:12:34
DJI or maybe it was two weeks ago. I01:12:36
don't know. It was either last week or01:12:37
the week before. I don't know what time01:12:38
zone I was in. Um so we talked about how01:12:42
DJI might get banned from the United01:12:43
States before the end of the year01:12:45
because of this they have to do a01:12:46
security clearance thing that they're01:12:48
probably not going to do because they're01:12:49
lazy. And uh if that happens, that would01:12:52
be weird because the Osmo Pocket 4,01:12:55
which if for those that don't know, the01:12:56
Osmo Pocket is probably DJI's most01:12:59
popular product for creators. Uh it's01:13:01
this little tiny thing that's basically01:13:02
a smartphone sensor, but I don't know01:13:05
why people buy it, but they like it. Um01:13:07
it's pretty good.01:13:08
>> It's good. It's popular. The Pocket 401:13:11
just passed the FCC, which is the01:13:14
Federal Communications Commission in the01:13:15
United States. It was just certified by01:13:17
the FCC, which means it is its launch is01:13:20
usually quite imminent after things pass01:13:22
the FCC, like within a month or two, but01:13:26
they're going to be banned within 301:13:27
weeks. So,01:13:29
>> wow. >> The [clears throat] options here are01:13:30
like they pass the FCC, but they just01:13:32
never sell it in the US, or it passes01:13:34
the FCC and it's sold for two weeks.01:13:38
>> If it passes the FCC, would they revert01:13:40
it? Because once it's banned, everything01:13:43
everything they make, period, is banned.01:13:44
They can't import any devices into the01:13:47
United States after unless they did the01:13:49
Nintendo Switch 2 thing where they just01:13:51
fly as many as possible.01:13:53
>> I was picturing a timeline where they're01:13:54
like, "This just got approved. Everyone01:13:56
scramble, ship as many to the US as01:13:57
possible and just storm somewhere so01:13:59
that when they get banned, we could at01:14:00
least profit from selling the ones that01:14:03
we made over the line01:14:04
>> before the door closed."01:14:05
>> It is possible.01:14:06
>> That's crazy.01:14:07
>> Yeah, it's crazy. So, it's kind of like01:14:08
a will they won't they kind of thing.01:14:12
[laughter] >> Or we'll just go to buy one from Best01:14:15
Buy in Canada and01:14:16
>> Oh, true. Yeah, I guess we could do01:14:18
that. >> Yeah. Yeah.01:14:19
>> Anyway, okay. We're going to do trivia01:14:21
and then we're going to recap our years01:14:24
through various data tracking algorithms01:14:27
>> and we're going to like it. [laughter]01:14:29
>> But first, I have to correct myself.01:14:31
One, Andrew, thank you for pointing out01:14:33
that I do not know how time zones work.01:14:35
>> Totally. I realize I know way less about01:14:38
time stamps than I do.01:14:39
>> Time.gov is a really cool website I01:14:41
found in this. The second correction is01:14:43
earlier I said in between 10 and 30% of01:14:46
Meta's uh profits come from scams.01:14:48
Allegedly uh I was wrong about that. The01:14:51
Reuters article claims that Meta01:14:53
internal documents say that 10% of their01:14:56
profits come from01:14:59
scams. Adam,01:15:01
>> why does Arizona think they're so much01:15:03
better than everybody else?01:15:04
>> They're right. Arizona01:15:06
standard time. Come on, y'all.01:15:08
>> Come on, guys. >> But also, we kind of are jealous a01:15:10
little bit. >> I'm pretty jealous.01:15:11
>> Very jealous. >> They just never have to deal with this01:15:13
>> Basically, daylight savings. Question01:15:15
number two. So, we just spent most of01:15:18
that segment talking about all the new01:15:19
Android features uh in the QPR201:15:23
release, right? Yeah.01:15:24
>> What does that stand for?01:15:26
>> I have an idea, but I'm not sure.01:15:29
>> I forgot. I did have I did know this01:15:31
like a couple months ago, and I just01:15:33
don't remember anymore at all. It's01:15:34
totally escaped me.01:15:36
>> Which means I'm going to guess and then01:15:37
r/android is going to declare me an01:15:39
idiot when [laughter]01:15:41
>> Well, that's just01:15:43
that's already happened. That's01:15:44
unavoidable. I just was [laughter]01:15:46
forecasting a little bit.01:15:47
>> Fun fact, the people who make QPR2 are01:15:49
the same people that make the01:15:50
mayonnaise.01:15:52
>> You know, that was originally going to01:15:53
be my question, but I was like, they're01:15:54
not going to know what I'm talking01:15:55
about. >> I love QP mayonnaise.01:15:56
>> Mayonnaise.01:15:57
>> Rich brought in QP mayonnaise.01:15:58
[clears throat] No, Eric brought it.01:15:59
Eric brought it.01:16:00
>> Eric brought the Q and that did that did01:16:03
happen. All right. Well, we'll all01:16:04
either know it or we'll take a guess and01:16:06
answers will be at the end like usual.01:16:08
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proved that they do at least hear what01:18:20
we are saying to them because they01:18:22
announced a feature that I and others,01:18:25
Hank Green notably, have been pitching01:18:28
on Twitter for years since they killed01:18:30
YouTube Rewind, which is we want01:18:32
wrapped. I still want them to call it01:18:34
rewind, right? >> We want I I said they should have called01:18:36
it rewind, and that's totally fine. I01:18:37
get it. they want to abandon the name.01:18:39
But the idea would be I just want to01:18:40
know like all the stats and numbers and01:18:42
insights and analytics from the videos01:18:44
that I watched on YouTube this year. I01:18:46
watch a lot of YouTube and contra kind01:18:49
of similarly to Spotify wrapped. I feel01:18:51
like it's kind of like a window into who01:18:53
you are. It's kind of like an01:18:54
interesting insight into your year.01:18:56
>> So YouTube did finally do that this year01:19:00
and it's rolling out this week. Almost01:19:01
all of us have it. Andrew still hasn't01:19:03
gotten it. It's supposed to be like this01:19:04
week globally.01:19:05
>> So fun. But [laughter]01:19:07
Google >> arguably the most Google faithful here01:19:09
>> with the Google phone doesn't yet.01:19:12
>> But it's called YouTube recaps. And if01:19:14
you do have it, you can open it up. It's01:19:16
in your account page and it can walk you01:19:18
through. It was It's kind of like a01:19:19
firstg product. It's not the most01:19:21
insightful thing in the world, but it01:19:22
shows you like the channels you watch01:19:23
the most and like the genres you watch01:19:25
the most. And it's kind of interesting01:19:26
and I feel like I had some things that I01:19:29
learned and some things that were like01:19:30
clearly wrong in there. Yeah. But uh it01:19:32
was cool. It did. I think my most01:19:34
interesting stat is I watched allegedly01:19:37
1,880 channels this year.01:19:39
>> Oh my god.01:19:41
>> I watched 538.01:19:43
>> You watched three times as much.01:19:44
>> Do you scroll shorts on there?01:19:46
>> Uh on the YouTube app. Does that count?01:19:48
Yeah, that would count.01:19:49
>> That has to count.01:19:50
>> I could see that flying.01:19:53
>> Interesting. Yeah, I guess that would01:19:54
instantly bump up the number of channels01:19:56
you watch. >> It doesn't show any shorts channels when01:19:58
I look at the channels, though.01:19:59
>> It also didn't01:20:00
>> What do you mean? Yeah.01:20:02
>> I mean like these two have shorts on01:20:04
them. So like >> I mean they have shorts on them but01:20:06
they're not main01:20:08
show up in the short.01:20:09
>> This could just be long form. It could01:20:11
be. I'm not sure that it includes01:20:14
shorts. And it doesn't say there's no01:20:15
like numbers to any of this. It's just01:20:16
kind of telling me like here's what you01:20:18
watched, but I feel like this could just01:20:19
be long form.01:20:20
>> Well, my top channel is the Waveform01:20:22
Podcast.01:20:23
>> Hell yeah. I bet [laughter] some people01:20:24
watching this their top channel is01:20:26
Waveform Podcast.01:20:27
>> Uh so shout out to you guys. Maybe send01:20:28
us the screenshots on Twitter. They01:20:30
haven't.01:20:32
appreciate audition.01:20:33
>> I would argue most people watching this01:20:34
probably has it as their top channel01:20:36
because if you watch it on YouTube, the01:20:38
hours you are putting in01:20:39
>> it's just default way more than a lot of01:20:42
other things. >> It doesn't say how it's measuring it. Is01:20:44
it by hours? Is it by total views? Is it01:20:46
by percentage of catalog watched? Cuz I01:20:48
saw a couple channels in here that like01:20:49
I haven't watched that many videos of01:20:51
them. But I'm in the top 3% of waveform01:20:54
viewers.01:20:55
>> That's [laughter] pretty definitive. You01:20:57
watch a lot of it and most more than01:20:59
most people and I make a lot of it.01:21:01
>> How many channels did you say you watch?01:21:02
>> Mine said [clears throat] 1,88001:21:04
channels.01:21:05
>> Okay. I I got 1,77.01:21:08
>> Hell yeah. >> Do you watch shorts on YouTube?01:21:10
>> No. >> Okay. >> So, yeah, it feels like it could just be01:21:12
long form. And then it shows like a01:21:13
screenshot of like a bunch of channels01:21:15
and it seems like it's >> So, while I'm playing Dota, you're01:21:17
watching YouTube.01:21:18
>> Yeah. What I sleep is that Marquez, you01:21:21
were not on the list of my tech channels01:21:24
that I watched. >> Oh, wow. You were you were categorized01:21:26
on my recap as a business insights01:21:28
channel. Really?01:21:29
>> That's really interesting.01:21:30
>> Yeah. The number one business insights01:21:31
reviewer in the world.01:21:33
>> Business.01:21:34
>> I mean, I'll take it.01:21:35
>> I saw someone say that Waveform Clips01:21:37
was categorized under gaming.01:21:38
>> Yeah, I saw that.01:21:40
>> We know a lot about gaming. We've never01:21:41
had the algorithm.01:21:43
>> We are the Nintendo Switch 2 podcast.01:21:45
[laughter] >> That's honestly maybe that's why01:21:48
>> there's a good amount. So, it gives me01:21:51
>> YouTube recap gave me my top three01:21:53
genres. So, one was tech news, two was01:21:55
sports content, three was comedy. Didn't01:21:58
know that, but I guess that's01:22:00
technically true. Uh, and then it gives01:22:03
me a couple other things. It doesn't01:22:04
show me. I would say Spotify wrapped is01:22:06
a more developed product with more01:22:08
interesting insights.01:22:09
>> Very developed.01:22:10
>> But shout out to YouTube for actually01:22:11
listening. This is a good first try.01:22:13
>> Now, next year, build in some01:22:16
interesting like01:22:17
>> like number crunching or like insights01:22:20
like how many hours of YouTube did I01:22:22
watch this year? I want to know that. I01:22:24
want to know uh something Spotify did01:22:27
this year with Wrapped is they analyzed01:22:29
your listening history and just came up01:22:32
with a a listening age and it gives you01:22:34
a number of like you have the listening01:22:37
habits of a 20-year-old or a01:22:39
70-year-old. Um, interestingly, today is01:22:42
my 32nd birthday and it said mine was01:22:44
exactly 32.01:22:46
>> Hilarious. Crazy. Um, I also think like01:22:48
if Amazon did a wrapped, it would know01:22:50
way too much about you to get it wrong01:22:52
and it would just tell you your exact01:22:53
age.01:22:54
>> This is totally not because I'm really01:22:56
salty that I'm the only person here01:22:57
without recap right now.01:22:59
>> I feel like like the reason Spotify01:23:01
wrapped works so well is because it has01:23:04
a singular day where everybody is01:23:06
sharing it. So to roll this out01:23:08
gradually and like not have everyone01:23:11
having it and sharing it at the same01:23:12
time is just the amount of people are01:23:14
going to be like, "Oh, I'm hyped. I want01:23:15
to go look at and it's not in your01:23:16
profile, you've just lost.01:23:19
>> Sounds like a U problem.01:23:20
>> Yeah, [clears throat] a YouTube problem.01:23:22
I think it's rolls out features and01:23:24
stages and waves a lot. And I I almost01:23:27
wonder if they even have the ability to01:23:28
like I mean other than removing the like01:23:31
dislike button.01:23:34
>> Yeah, they should be able to pull they01:23:35
should be able to hit a button and every01:23:36
single thing on the second largest01:23:38
website on the planet should change.01:23:39
>> What was your YouTube award? Mine is the01:23:41
most likely to have the latest tech and01:23:43
still know the best local coffee shop.01:23:46
>> Which is extremely accurate. [laughter]01:23:48
>> That's pretty specific.01:23:50
>> Extremely accurate.01:23:51
>> Mine was the most likely to know what's01:23:54
going on behind the scenes of a news01:23:55
story before other people have heard the01:23:57
news story. [laughter]01:23:58
>> Wow.01:23:59
>> That's also very specific.01:24:01
>> That's not insinuating.01:24:02
>> You just know01:24:03
>> I'm aing genius, right? [laughter]01:24:05
>> That he's the one that committed the01:24:07
crime.01:24:09
My award is most likely to find the01:24:11
coolest new gadget before everyone else.01:24:14
>> Yeah, that's mine.01:24:15
>> That seems pretty generic.01:24:16
>> Yeah, >> to be honest.01:24:17
>> Are you the curious mind? I'm the01:24:19
curious mind.01:24:20
>> That's my personality type.01:24:21
>> Wonder.01:24:22
>> I'm the wonders seeker. Marquez, do we01:24:23
have the same YouTube rat?01:24:25
>> Maybe.01:24:26
>> Tech product reviews.01:24:27
>> Did you also Was Bad Bunny also your top01:24:28
listen to? [laughter]01:24:29
>> No, I've never heard a Bad Bunny song in01:24:31
it entirety. So that's01:24:32
>> That is a lie.01:24:33
>> In its entirety. Bad Bunny was yours?01:24:36
>> Yeah. on my Spotify.01:24:39
>> Baboon.01:24:40
>> Yeah. Do >> you know that line in the office where01:24:42
he's like, "I love inside jokes. I'd01:24:44
love to be part of one one day." That's01:24:45
how I [laughter] feel right now with all01:24:47
you guys. I don't know what any of you01:24:48
are talking about.01:24:49
>> Oh, you know what's funny? After you01:24:50
watch a YouTube recap, it has you do a01:24:53
questionnaire to whether or not you01:24:54
think that it01:24:55
>> it was good or not.01:24:56
>> It was good or not.01:24:57
>> Whether or not it actually it says,01:24:58
"Rate your level of agreement. This01:25:00
recap reflects who I am, my interest,01:25:02
preferences, etc."01:25:03
>> They're trying. The first screen, if you01:25:05
look, very small text at the bottom, it01:25:07
says AI can make mistakes. So, it was01:25:10
definitely made with AI.01:25:11
>> Damn. I mean, I don't I'm not shocked.01:25:13
>> Microsoft uses AI.01:25:16
>> Yeah, I can make mistakes. It does say01:25:17
they're very tiny. Very small text. I'm01:25:18
sorry, Andrew.01:25:19
>> Yeah. [laughter] Anyway,01:25:20
>> I'm so irrationally mad about this.01:25:24
>> It's kind of like,01:25:25
>> and before everyone asks my I don't have01:25:27
my history deleted or anything, like I01:25:29
don't have any of the special things01:25:30
that would not let me have it. YouTube01:25:32
just hates me. Well, I still don't have01:25:34
my Google Photos recap, which was what01:25:36
we're were about to talk about. No, I01:25:38
don't have that either. >> That I do have, which is01:25:40
>> You have it? >> I do have that one.01:25:41
>> Wow. So, Google gave that to01:25:43
>> Do you want to go to that? Yeah, we'll01:25:44
go to Google. Are you guys done with01:25:45
>> We'll just finish up Google. Yeah,01:25:46
>> YouTube recap.01:25:47
>> Yeah. Still should have be called should01:25:49
should have been called YouTube Recap.01:25:51
>> And I I do want to say really quickly, I01:25:53
know that YouTube Rewind got01:25:54
progressively more cringe,01:25:56
>> but I like I feel like there's something01:25:58
cultural about that, you know?01:25:59
>> Keep the name. Like, own the name. I01:26:02
know it if they must have really really01:26:05
realized how bad it was to bury it, but01:26:07
it would have been way better to own it.01:26:09
>> What has changed though like that? This01:26:11
is something I've been thinking about a01:26:12
lot recently. There's not really like a01:26:14
singular cultural event that everyone01:26:17
like it doesn't happen that much anymore01:26:19
that there is one topic that everyone is01:26:22
watching and seeing and talking about.01:26:24
So01:26:26
because of algorithmic timelines and01:26:28
everything being curated to for you.01:26:30
Mhm. So now like the YouTube rewind, you01:26:33
know, it already felt a little out of01:26:34
touch cuz it would be some like artists01:26:36
that you had you've never heard of them01:26:38
before and it was like, oh, they were01:26:39
really popular. That's crazy. But now it01:26:41
would be like I would not recognize01:26:42
literally anything that happened on it.01:26:44
>> Which is why this is a perfect01:26:45
replacement for it. So it's just telling01:26:47
you about yourself and what you watch,01:26:49
>> but I want to feel more connected to the01:26:50
world. That's why I think the best01:26:52
YouTube rewinds, the best YouTube01:26:54
rewinds were the first few where it was01:26:56
just the extremely extremely small01:26:59
selection of the couple of memes that01:27:01
everyone was aware of01:27:03
>> which there are like no that everyone's01:27:05
aware of. >> There's only like five like exactly six,01:27:08
seven. you've all01:27:10
>> they've all heard, you've all seen maybe01:27:12
like one major sports event of the year01:27:15
and one major cultural like event or one01:27:19
or two celebrities that like01:27:21
>> had a big moment or something like that.01:27:23
That would be it.01:27:24
>> But I feel like01:27:25
>> I mean in the tech space even now the01:27:27
Android releases are not going to be01:27:28
like a big Android 17. They're all just01:27:31
coming out all the time constantly.01:27:32
There used to be stuff every day on01:27:34
Twitter that we would they would be the01:27:37
topic of the day. That does not happen01:27:40
almost at all anymore.01:27:41
>> Like every now and then, but not very01:27:43
often.01:27:44
>> Yeah. >> If you were in charge,01:27:46
>> if [clears throat] you were in charge of01:27:47
YouTube Rewind today and you were trying01:27:48
to do it the same style as the last few01:27:50
rewinds, you would have a list like 7001:27:52
pages long of things to include and it01:27:54
would just be impossible.01:27:55
>> Yeah. >> So glad they didn't try01:27:57
>> like K-pop.01:27:58
>> Yeah. I feel like it could be like01:27:59
>> K-pop Demon Hunters.01:28:00
>> K-pop Demon Hunters. Coffeezilla01:28:02
>> like kind of I feel like this was kind01:28:04
of his breakout year. Or did he start?01:28:07
[laughter] >> That was like two to three years ago.01:28:09
His breakout year was probably two to01:28:11
three years ago. >> I think when like the bigger NFT crypto01:28:14
scammy stuff was01:28:15
>> the 2022.01:28:17
>> It might be longer than last year22.01:28:20
I think he was still a coffee channel.01:28:22
>> I didn't even know he was a01:28:23
>> he was definitely doing a lot of the01:28:24
crypto stuff during the metaverse wave.01:28:27
His most popular video three years ago,01:28:30
four years ago, two years ago, two years01:28:32
ago. >> Yeah.01:28:34
>> Yeah. >> Yeah.01:28:36
>> Actually, two years ago was his really01:28:38
big year.01:28:39
>> The biggest YouTubers were still Mr.01:28:41
Beast and like the most obvious ones01:28:43
that you're thinking of.01:28:45
>> T-Series and that's fine. All right.01:28:46
Tell us about Google Photos recap that01:28:49
apparently only you have, Andrew.01:28:50
>> Yeah, this is the Pixel Reward.01:28:53
>> This is my Pixel Reward, not the other01:28:55
Google product from YouTube. Um, I mean,01:28:58
Google Photos is awesome already in that01:29:00
it does a lot of these like memories01:29:01
together or like this day back, like01:29:04
photos from this day in previous years.01:29:07
Um, but it pretty much just gives you at01:29:09
the top of your screen a like 2025 year01:29:13
recap. Um, and you just scroll through01:29:15
it and it pretty much is just going to01:29:16
show the people you took the most photos01:29:18
of. I have 1,800 photos of Lane01:29:21
apparently from this year. Um, which is01:29:24
then funny because then it's Claire and01:29:26
then my the third person is just Lane,01:29:28
but it doesn't put Lane's name to the01:29:31
face. So, uh, but yeah, it's just kind01:29:34
of going through all how people you've01:29:37
taken photos of. Um, you know, mine is01:29:41
just all lane pretty much, but01:29:43
>> exploring new places, things you've01:29:45
done. I've gone to a lot of Devil's01:29:46
Games, theme parks. I guess it's01:29:50
>> it's another good service to have a01:29:51
rewind. And then it throws some videos01:29:53
at the end, just like clips them all01:29:55
together, which is awesome. I think as a01:29:58
parent right now,01:29:59
>> yeah, >> this is like one of the coolest things01:30:01
ever. >> That's why I gave it to you first,01:30:03
>> possibly.01:30:04
>> Um, and this is really cool because I01:30:06
can share it just through Google Photos01:30:09
with other people. I I think like01:30:11
>> one last thing about harping on being a01:30:13
parent is like01:30:15
>> when you have a kid, start a shared01:30:16
Google Photos album with everyone who01:30:18
might take pictures of them that they01:30:20
can then look at and it's the best thing01:30:22
ever. Yeah, >> I I think that's really awesome.01:30:24
>> Yeah, they also added a new feature to01:30:27
this Google Photos recap where you can01:30:28
now export directly to Cap Cut for some01:30:32
reason. It's specifically Cap Cut01:30:34
>> and they have a bunch of different01:30:35
templates where you can put different01:30:38
photore stuff in it. Um,01:30:41
>> weird.01:30:42
>> Yeah, I guess it's like they really want01:30:44
you to make a short out of it or01:30:45
something.01:30:46
>> I'm sure to share it. [clears throat]01:30:47
>> Yeah.01:30:48
>> The other funny thing is there's also an01:30:50
option called replace people or photos.01:30:53
So, I guess if you01:30:54
>> cuz I I guess we all take photos of like01:30:56
random things all the time. Maybe a01:30:58
receipt, maybe just like this is where01:31:00
[laughter] I am. So, like if that01:31:01
happens to pop up, you can replace the01:31:03
photo. Replace people is really funny. I01:31:05
guess maybe if you take too many photos01:31:08
at like work and there's someone from01:31:10
work that that you don't want to be with01:31:12
all your other family members. I'm01:31:14
assuming it will take out the couple01:31:15
slides that's dedicated to that person.01:31:17
>> The tag that recognizes. Yeah.01:31:19
>> Yeah. So, you can edit it.01:31:22
>> I'm glad because not to go dark, but01:31:24
that could also be a thing if you lost a01:31:26
family member this year and then it's01:31:27
giving you a recap of like01:31:29
>> Yeah. Look at all these pictures and see01:31:32
that right now. That might be like good01:31:33
to see the memories with the person, but01:31:35
like if you broke up with somebody, then01:31:36
you don't want to see the memories with01:31:38
the person. >> Yeah.01:31:39
>> Yeah, I can see that.01:31:40
>> Well, that's depressing.01:31:42
>> Yeah. >> Spotify [laughter]01:31:45
um is the next one. Spotify kind of01:31:47
kicked off this whole like recap thing01:31:49
and now freaking Eight Sleep is probably01:31:51
doing a recap. [laughter]01:31:52
>> Wait, I want that.01:31:53
>> How You Slept this year.01:31:55
>> Wait, I want that. Eight sleep wrapped.01:31:58
I didn't get the Spotify age01:31:59
[clears throat] thing.01:32:00
>> You didn't? No,01:32:01
>> it's in It's in the01:32:02
>> I know. I was looking at01:32:03
>> in your rap. It didn't Huh.01:32:04
>> No, I guess I'm timeless. [laughter]01:32:08
>> That's That's what I want to ask. I01:32:09
think there was two main things in raps01:32:11
this year that were different that were01:32:13
fun. And one is it calculates your age01:32:16
based on music you listen to. And also01:32:18
the last one was01:32:19
>> towards the end it created files of kind01:32:22
of like01:32:23
>> your most music listening day. It would01:32:26
be like the day you listened to the most01:32:28
different genres. The day you listened01:32:29
to this one artist too many times and01:32:31
had a little recap. But I wanted to ask01:32:33
what everyone's listening age was.01:32:36
>> Mine is 47.01:32:37
>> 47.01:32:38
>> Mine is 32.01:32:39
>> 32. That's hilarious cuz it's your01:32:41
birthday. I think David and I are on the01:32:43
older end. >> Mine was 87.01:32:45
>> 8.01:32:46
>> I thought it was 77.01:32:47
>> Oh, was it 72?01:32:48
>> Mine was So mine's kind of interesting01:32:50
because it's also old. I believe it's01:32:53
68. The only thing is, and Marquez had01:32:56
an interesting point about this, so01:32:57
maybe he's right. I listen to a lot of01:33:00
older music. 73. Okay.01:33:02
>> Sorry, not 87.01:33:04
>> That's wild.01:33:05
>> Yeah. Old01:33:06
>> knows you make fun of Spotify [laughter]01:33:07
all the time.01:33:08
>> I'm the enigma, baby.01:33:09
>> So, I mean, my genres are indie pop,01:33:12
Scott Punk, Minianapolis Sound, whatever01:33:14
that means.01:33:15
>> That's Prince01:33:17
and alternative rock. And how is that01:33:19
73? I think it's more based on when the01:33:23
music came out and when you would01:33:25
approximately be01:33:26
>> Yeah. I mean, it plays Joanie Mitchell01:33:28
when I um01:33:29
>> Mine's mine played Bruce Springsteen01:33:31
when it said 68. But it also said in my01:33:33
top genres, number four was Lullabi01:33:35
because of how many things I play for01:33:36
Lane, which makes me wonder01:33:39
>> if my age should be way higher and01:33:41
that's actually pulling my average down01:33:43
really hard. But then you said I thought01:33:45
it was interesting. Like obviously a lot01:33:46
of one-year-olds listen to lullabibies,01:33:49
but maybe they're not the ones listening01:33:50
to it on Spotify. It's their parents who01:33:52
are listening to the lullabies on their01:33:54
Spotify. So it knows based on you01:33:56
listening to lullabibies that you are01:33:58
around a parents age.01:33:59
>> Yeah, potentiary point.01:34:01
>> They also just know how old you are.01:34:04
>> That was the thing. I think you just it01:34:06
just knows. That's But it's supposed to01:34:07
tell you your listening age. It's just01:34:09
sad that mine's the same as my age. If01:34:11
it was just trying to actually guess our01:34:12
age, it's all really01:34:14
>> boring. It's perfect. [laughter]01:34:15
>> It's boring. >> I also found a very funny I I forgot to01:34:17
mention this. I found a very funny bug01:34:19
in the YouTube recap. So, as many people01:34:22
know, I watch almost every video at at01:34:25
least 2x speed. Um,01:34:27
>> unfortunately,01:34:28
>> the YouTube music the YouTube recap will01:34:30
play music in [snorts and clears throat]01:34:32
the background based on a song that01:34:34
you've listened to through YouTube01:34:36
music. Apparently, I don't really know01:34:38
how it picks it, but if the last video01:34:41
that you watched on YouTube before you01:34:42
start your recap, you were watching at01:34:44
2x speed or or something else, it plays01:34:46
that song at 2 to 3x speed.01:34:48
>> Oh, nice.01:34:49
>> So, watch this. So, if I I don't know if01:34:50
we can play this cuz I copyright, but if01:34:53
I switch Let me just switch this01:34:55
playback speed to to 3x.01:34:57
>> Okay, 3x.01:34:58
>> You're just in like a random video right01:35:00
now. >> Just a random video. And then I go to my01:35:01
YouTube recap.01:35:08
And it's like doing the reccast, but01:35:10
it's like playing it at 3x.01:35:13
>> Wait, can [laughter] you find01:35:14
royalty-free music to do this?01:35:16
>> It just01:35:18
only does your most played song through01:35:20
YouTube music as your background.01:35:21
>> Streetlight Manifesto sped up just01:35:23
sounds like through the fire and flames.01:35:24
>> I thought it was through the fire, but I01:35:26
thought it was.01:35:27
>> Yeah, that's really fun.01:35:28
>> Well, that song's not technically out01:35:30
yet, so maybe it's not copyrighted.01:35:33
I'm pretty sure Through the Fire and01:35:34
Flames has been out for quite some time.01:35:36
David, >> I played Through the Fire and Flames at01:35:38
a party and someone was like, "What is01:35:39
this?" And I was like, "Oh my god,01:35:41
>> is that person uncultured?"01:35:43
>> That's why your listening age is 73.01:35:45
[laughter]01:35:46
>> Jeez,01:35:47
>> Dragon Force. That is really funny.01:35:49
>> Um, anyway, if you guys uh if you guys01:35:52
have us on your wrapped or your recap,01:35:56
because we could be on your YouTube01:35:57
recap or your Spotify wrapped,01:36:00
>> send it to us. >> Yeah.01:36:01
>> Yeah. I want to see it. >> Yeah. Yeah, I want to see it.01:36:02
>> Yeah. >> I also wanted to end this with one other01:36:05
wrapped we got is in megaphone we get01:36:08
wrapped for creators which if you guys01:36:10
want to open the link you can01:36:12
>> we have not looked at this but this is01:36:13
basically01:36:14
>> our wrapped for waveform of people who01:36:17
listen to us and I thought we'd go01:36:19
through it really quick. I think we01:36:20
usually do this every year.01:36:21
>> Um so if you guys want to pull it up at01:36:23
the production desk. Let's go. 2025.01:36:26
This year is quite the year for you.01:36:28
Scroll down. This is just on Spotify or01:36:31
is this across all?01:36:32
>> Well, no. Megaphone is across all audio.01:36:34
Yeah. >> Yeah. So, this should do everything.01:36:36
It's just that Megaphone's owned by01:36:37
Spotify now. So, okay.01:36:38
>> Little proof that hard work pays off.01:36:40
2.3 million total plays.01:36:42
>> Damn. >> Again, audio only.01:36:45
9% increase of total audience from last01:36:48
year. >> Okay.01:36:49
>> 122,000.01:36:51
Total new audience. Wait, what? Isn't01:36:54
that what we just Oh, total audience.01:36:55
Total new audience 56.8K AK up 350% from01:37:00
last year.01:37:01
>> Our audio. >> I'm not sure how it's01:37:03
>> I don't know what that means.01:37:04
>> That but Okay. >> Well, this is audio, right? This is This01:37:06
is just through Spotify.01:37:08
>> Or is this01:37:09
>> No, it's megaphone. This is all This is01:37:11
what pushes to our distribution.01:37:12
>> Yeah,01:37:13
>> that's cool.01:37:14
>> That sounds like a totally wrong number.01:37:16
Total followers 274,000 up 7% from last01:37:20
year.01:37:21
>> Is that right? [snorts]01:37:22
>> 52.6 million minutes of listening.01:37:26
How many uh do I have more hours in Dota01:37:28
2 than people?01:37:29
>> Well, here we go. Hours of listening.01:37:31
877,00001:37:32
hours of listening. I'm01:37:33
>> pretty close.01:37:34
>> That is 36.5,00001:37:38
days.01:37:39
>> 5.2,000 weeks.01:37:41
>> Is that just this year?01:37:42
>> 1.2,00001:37:44
months and 100 years. Centennial.01:37:48
[laughter]01:37:49
>> Wow.01:37:50
>> We're a blue zone.01:37:51
>> This is our centennial.01:37:54
>> Blue zone. That's so many dishes.01:37:56
[laughter]01:37:57
>> It's a lot of dishes.01:37:58
>> Wait, is that it?01:37:59
>> Yeah, that's it.01:38:00
>> Oh, wait. No, no. The charts.01:38:01
>> Number nine.01:38:02
>> We hit number.01:38:04
>> Number nine. What?01:38:05
>> The charts. Waveform. FKBHD podcast. You01:38:07
hit number nine.01:38:09
>> Like total01:38:10
>> number nine. We're sorry. [laughter] We01:38:12
know we have hands. We didn't think it01:38:13
hurt that bad.01:38:15
>> Do we hit the number nine?01:38:17
>> I just What is the chart? It just says01:38:18
the charts. You were on the charts for01:38:21
43 weeks. You charted in eight01:38:23
countries.01:38:24
What does that mean?01:38:25
>> What does [laughter] that mean?01:38:27
>> Clearly, they did not put as much work01:38:28
into01:38:29
>> They put way too much work in the01:38:31
animations for all of this cuz they're01:38:33
really good.01:38:34
>> Thanks, Daddy.01:38:35
>> One episode. Our most popular episode.01:38:37
>> What do you think? Our What episode rose01:38:38
above the rest?01:38:40
>> Know which one it is? >> Vision Pro.01:38:41
>> Apple iPhone.01:38:42
>> Was it Vision Pro? iPhone.01:38:45
>> Our live Oh, yeah. Apple Park event.01:38:48
>> Yeah. 40% more than the average episode.01:38:51
>> Wow.01:38:52
>> Nice. Wait, was that our That wasn't the01:38:54
bonus.01:38:56
>> I was going to say, yeah,01:38:57
>> we're still quoting it.01:38:59
>> Whatever that means.01:39:01
>> Hot takes, leave notes, and everything01:39:03
in between.01:39:04
>> Love notes.01:39:05
>> What is that?01:39:06
>> These are all the comments we haven't01:39:07
enabled.01:39:08
>> Oh, no. It's the comments that we barely01:39:11
know how to read.01:39:12
>> Well, there's hundreds of them.01:39:14
[laughter] >> YouTube needs to fix this episode. Got01:39:16
the most comments.01:39:18
>> Oh. Uh,01:39:19
>> the most used emoji was a thumbs up. All01:39:22
right. [laughter]01:39:23
>> United States left 716 comments. Most01:39:26
comments were left on June 19th. Sorry.01:39:27
Were you going to say something else?01:39:28
>> Is that just01:39:29
>> Is this on Spotify?01:39:31
>> This is through Spotify.01:39:33
>> Sorry. If you comment on Spotify,01:39:35
>> good job.01:39:36
>> We probably [laughter]01:39:38
never seen that. >> It's just we don't have a process in01:39:40
place like reply to them.01:39:42
>> Yeah. Replying stuff.01:39:43
>> Yeah.01:39:44
>> Are listening pass. Oh, this is the most01:39:46
fun part. The like 158 countries01:39:48
reached.01:39:49
>> There are 158 countries. There's I can't01:39:52
name all the planets. [laughter]01:39:54
>> Uh oh. Oh.01:39:56
>> All right. Top countries. United States,01:39:59
United Kingdom, India, Canada, Germany.01:40:02
Everybody else needs to step it up.01:40:05
[laughter]01:40:06
>> Come on, man.01:40:07
>> Yeah.01:40:08
>> Get your friends to listen. You're never01:40:09
going to chart at this rate. [laughter]01:40:11
>> You're charted. You charted number nine.01:40:15
>> Um, your show made it to the top of many01:40:18
fans lists.01:40:19
>> What's a list? >> I don't know. It's [laughter] It's next01:40:21
to charts. It's next toart. You're a top01:40:23
10 show for 71,000 fans. That's pretty01:40:26
awesome. Top five for 55,000 fans.01:40:29
Number one show for 18.7,000.01:40:32
>> That's01:40:33
>> shout out fans,01:40:34
>> including me on YouTube.01:40:37
>> Your top fans streamed 2.6 times more01:40:40
than everyone else.01:40:41
>> Yeah,01:40:42
>> I feel like this has to just be Spotify.01:40:44
There's no way they could collect01:40:45
>> Yeah, this feels like Spotify only data.01:40:47
I don't think they can collect they01:40:49
don't have user data from01:40:51
>> unless they're like logging everybody's01:40:53
IP all the time01:40:55
>> minutes and stuff like that total or01:40:58
>> that could probably be a Spotify idea.01:41:01
>> Well, it's a Spotify URL cuz it's01:41:03
through megaphone which is what pushes01:41:04
to RSS for01:41:05
>> Spotify logo in the corner01:41:07
>> cuz Spotify owns megaphone.01:41:08
>> Yeah, but it's I think it's pretty clear01:41:10
it's Spotify.01:41:11
>> This is all just Spotify then. That's01:41:12
crazy cuz all these numbers are way01:41:13
higher because Spotify isn't even our01:41:15
most listened to. I don't know because01:41:17
megaphone gives us um [laughter]01:41:22
>> Megaphone gives us numbers outside gives01:41:23
us numbers outside of Spotify. That's01:41:24
what I'm saying.01:41:25
>> I think I think that I would guess that01:41:26
the listening numbers are probably from01:41:29
all platforms because you can detect how01:41:31
many times an RSS feed is pulled from01:41:32
megaphone servers, but I don't I don't01:41:35
know how they would know like our like a01:41:37
user's top shows from RSS01:41:40
infrastructure. It's01:41:41
>> it's really simple syndication.01:41:43
>> Keep scrolling. These get really01:41:44
interesting when you scroll down. The01:41:46
top artists01:41:47
>> the top artists from people who listen01:41:50
to our podcast.01:41:51
>> What do you know? I don't know one or01:41:54
two which is probably01:41:55
>> I don't know one. I don't know two.01:41:57
>> Number three.01:41:59
>> Three is Kendrick Lamar. Four is Taylor01:42:00
Swift. And five is Drake.01:42:02
>> Top audio books you guys listen to.01:42:04
Number one John Green. Everything is01:42:06
Tuberculosis. Number two Ezra Klene01:42:10
Abundance. Number three Gary Stevenson01:42:13
the trading game. Number four, James01:42:16
Clear's iconic Atomic Habits book. And01:42:18
number five, Mark Manson, The Subtle Art01:42:21
of Not Giving A. [laughter]01:42:24
>> Wow.01:42:25
>> It's There's something funny about01:42:28
talking about not giving a and then01:42:30
censoring the word on the cover, the01:42:33
page. Sounds like you give a little bit.01:42:35
>> You got to sell the book everywhere. You01:42:36
got to sell the book.01:42:38
>> And then other top shows that you guys01:42:39
listen to.01:42:40
>> Let's just say number two.01:42:41
>> Number one. Well, Jerry is the most01:42:43
popular podcast on Earth. So Joe Rogan01:42:44
is number one,01:42:46
>> the Wan Show number two, The Verge Cast01:42:48
number three, the New York Times Daily01:42:50
number four, the Bill Simmons podcast01:42:52
number five.01:42:53
>> Wave for listeners know Ball.01:42:54
>> You know Ball? Y'all know Ball. Okay.01:42:57
Pretty awesome that the JerryRig01:42:58
Everything Experience is the number one01:43:00
podcast. That's01:43:01
>> That is interesting.01:43:02
>> Um, who's Bill Simmons?01:43:05
>> Sports comedy.01:43:07
>> Just leave it at that. Sports guy. Big01:43:08
sports guy.01:43:10
>> Yeah. The the last thing says fans01:43:12
listen to you for longer than 99% of01:43:14
other shows. So we have a show that01:43:16
keeps people listening for long01:43:18
durations.01:43:19
>> Wow. >> Which for a podcast I feel like is a01:43:21
pretty big achievement. That's pretty01:43:22
cool. >> Honestly, shout out to Adam for that01:43:24
because if you were in the room with us,01:43:25
you would leave so fast. [laughter]01:43:27
>> It's a good point.01:43:28
>> I haven't left yet.01:43:30
>> I don't know. I have to cut them01:43:31
sometimes where you leave the bathroom.01:43:34
>> Oh yeah, it's true.01:43:35
>> You receive more shares than 99% of01:43:37
other shows.01:43:38
>> Really? That feels like something.01:43:40
>> Feels a lot.01:43:41
>> That feels like a great accomplishment.01:43:42
>> They shared all the iPhone the iPhone01:43:44
video. iPhone01:43:46
>> and [clears throat] that's it.01:43:47
>> Nice. >> Okay.01:43:48
>> Well, we charted.01:43:50
[laughter] >> Whatever that means. We did that.01:43:53
>> Doc, I charted.01:43:54
>> We charted.01:43:55
>> We charted. We listed. [laughter]01:43:59
>> And now we trivia.01:44:00
>> Unlike Nathan Drake who uncharted, we01:44:03
charted.01:44:05
>> We charted. Sea of Thieves.01:44:06
>> Charted the seas. All right. All right.01:44:09
Relax. [laughter]01:44:12
>> And another thing.01:44:14
>> Also, I just blinked.01:44:15
>> What's an ocean anyway?01:44:16
>> I just blinked and this animation thing01:44:18
was like in my [laughter]01:44:20
>> cuz it's like pulsing.01:44:22
>> I learned when I was really young. That01:44:25
C is for cookie. And that's good enough01:44:28
for [laughter] me.01:44:31
>> We could have solved that whole argument01:44:32
with that one.01:44:34
>> Did long I did long division for this01:44:35
one. So this is01:44:36
>> was that the first question though?01:44:37
>> How did you do long division01:44:39
>> for the first?01:44:40
>> I don't see I don't see any long01:44:42
>> in this class. You got to show your01:44:43
work, brother. [laughter]01:44:44
>> Did long division.01:44:45
>> Would you ask Chad GPT?01:44:47
>> Okay, guys. The OnePlus 15's battery is01:44:50
insane. How many times larger in01:44:53
milliamp hours? Is it larger or longer?01:44:55
Doesn't matter. How many times more in01:44:58
milliamp hours is the OnePlus 15 than my01:45:01
12 mini?01:45:04
Closest Delta.01:45:05
>> Closest.01:45:06
>> Oh, boy.01:45:07
>> Delta.01:45:08
>> Oh, wait.01:45:12
[music]01:45:13
>> We have really milked this piece of01:45:14
music for so much at this point.01:45:16
>> It's incredible. It's timeless.01:45:18
>> I wish I remember who wrote it.01:45:20
>> Let's switch to Sidmer's Sim Golf theme01:45:23
song next.01:45:24
>> You guys probably haven't heard it. Sid01:45:26
Myers Civilization.01:45:27
>> I was going to say we [laughter] were01:45:28
both like, Marquez, everyone's heard of01:45:30
Civilization. >> I heard of Sid Myers Sim Golf.01:45:33
[laughter]01:45:34
Oh boy.01:45:35
>> Oh, please, please give me the win.01:45:38
>> These are close answers.01:45:40
>> These are close answers.01:45:41
>> It ain't 2400.01:45:42
>> I've showed more work than both of you01:45:44
guys. David,01:45:46
>> what is your answer?01:45:47
>> 4.2x.01:45:48
>> All right. I will tell you now that you01:45:50
are the farthest01:45:52
>> away >> from what I can see.01:45:53
>> All right,01:45:55
>> Andrew. Yes. What did you put?01:45:57
>> 3.15.01:45:58
>> 3.15.01:46:00
That puts you01:46:03
0.12 away from the correct the correct01:46:06
answer. Marquez, what did you01:46:07
>> think is right? I I know the OnePlus 1501:46:10
has a 7,300 mAh battery.01:46:12
>> That is correct.01:46:13
>> I was guessing that your phone's in the01:46:15
ballpark of 2400, which I think might be01:46:17
too high. So, I have I have I was01:46:20
thinking it was 1500.01:46:21
>> I have 3.1x, which I'm I'm realizing.01:46:24
>> I'm sorry. I I'm going to round that to01:46:27
3.10 10 because you do not have01:46:30
>> Oh, wait. You That's what you meant by01:46:32
that. You weren't like X was not a01:46:33
variable. No, you were saying 3.1 times.01:46:36
>> The correct answer is 3.2701:46:40
which gives Andrew01:46:41
>> Yeah.01:46:42
>> the point.01:46:43
>> What is the mill of the iPhone?01:46:46
>> I believe it is I believe it is 2227.01:46:50
>> For some reason, I was guessing like01:46:51
1500.01:46:52
>> I was guessing more. For some reason,01:46:53
>> you know why I guess 1500? It was the01:46:55
usable uh millah of Ellis's battery.01:46:58
>> That's what I was guessing. [laughter]01:47:00
Wow. >> It's like 800.01:47:01
>> Probably 1500 by this point. I was01:47:04
thinking >> I was in Chinatown buying fish balls for01:47:06
David and I. And so I the guy the fish01:47:10
ball at Mr. Chang's fish ball store was01:47:13
um was like, "Oh, you should scan this01:47:15
QR code and leave a review of my fish01:47:17
balls." And I was like, "Yeah, I love01:47:19
it, man. I'm here all the time." And I01:47:21
opened my camera app to scan it and my01:47:24
camera broke. It didn't work. So I like01:47:26
at this point01:47:27
>> this point. Are01:47:28
>> you just going to upgrade your phone?01:47:29
It's a feature phone.01:47:30
>> Are you going to upgrade it?01:47:32
>> As soon as I can get a 17 Pro for under01:47:36
$1,200. Sure. But like come on, man.$12.01:47:39
>> You get the small one.01:47:41
>> Yeah, >> the small one's not 1,200. I mean, after01:47:44
it starts at 11 and then you should01:47:45
never buy base storage iPhones. So01:47:48
>> doesn't start at $999.01:47:49
>> No. >> Yeah.01:47:50
>> 10 10 Oh, a Pro 109. 1099. a pro.01:47:54
>> It starts at 109 1099.01:47:57
>> Yeah. >> All right, I'm gonna pass it over to01:47:58
Adam to do a score update and hit you01:48:01
with question number two.01:48:03
>> Get him.01:48:05
>> Well, that's getting cut.01:48:07
[laughter] >> Why?01:48:08
>> Why?01:48:09
>> Quick update on the score. Marquez with01:48:12
10. Andrew after that correct answer01:48:14
with 13. David bringing up the rear with01:48:17
nine. David, this is your chance. What01:48:19
does QPR2 mean?01:48:23
for the Android updates that we spoke01:48:27
about. QPR2 is when you exchange a bribe01:48:32
for fish eggs.01:48:34
>> Quidd pro row.01:48:37
[laughter]01:48:39
>> One point to Alice.01:48:45
>> This is it. Flip him and read. What do01:48:48
you got? I'll go David first.01:48:50
>> Oh, duh. I did. [clears throat] Oh,01:48:55
>> oh, I think Marquez is right.01:48:56
>> I think Marquez is right.01:48:57
>> Okay. Well,01:48:58
>> I wrote it means nothing, hoping that it01:49:00
just didn't really mean anything01:49:01
[laughter] because I couldn't even01:49:02
pretend to make up letters.01:49:04
>> Would have been hilarious, but no.01:49:05
>> I wrote quarterly pixel release 2.01:49:08
>> Okay. And Marquez, what did you write?01:49:10
>> I wrote quarterly public release 2.01:49:13
>> Marquez. I think it's public though.01:49:15
>> Neither of you were correct. It's01:49:17
quarterly platform release 2. Close01:49:20
enough. Close enough. >> Nice work. And neither of us can claim01:49:22
close to Delta because we're both one.01:49:23
>> Yeah, you're both one word off.01:49:25
>> Cuz it's a word. >> Unfortunately, that means01:49:27
>> you're both. [laughter]01:49:28
>> There's not distance between words.01:49:30
Actually, there isn't 3D space. So,01:49:32
>> well, hey, nobody gets those points, but01:49:34
we all learned something today.01:49:37
>> Shout out to those of you who have a01:49:38
singer wrapped or your recaps01:49:40
>> and Yeah, cuz I get I get it wrong every01:49:43
week, [laughter] so I just learn01:49:44
something every week.01:49:45
>> Um, and thank you for watching and for01:49:46
listening and subscribing. We'll catch01:49:48
you very soon in our more regularly01:49:49
scheduled programming in Techmber.01:49:52
[laughter] >> No,01:49:53
>> we're just forcing it at this point.01:49:54
>> Texember, see you soon.01:49:56
>> It's his birthday. >> Oh, true. You're right, Marquez.01:49:59
[laughter]01:50:01
>> Waveform is produced in a small studio01:50:03
in between the Labrador and Saraso seas01:50:05
by Ellis Roven and Adam Molina. Uh,01:50:08
>> the Caspian Sea is a lake.01:50:10
>> Bingo.01:50:11
>> Our theme music is written by Vain Sil01:50:14
and we're part of the Vox Media Podcast01:50:15
Network. We're written by the01:50:18
>> Written by the Vox video.01:50:22
[music]01:50:26
>> I'm on oceans service.noah.gov.01:50:30
>> Okay.01:50:31
>> And they say a sea is the part of the01:50:33
ocean that is near land.01:50:36
>> That's it. >> Oh, I thought it came after01:50:38
>> that's a terrible ex explanation.01:50:40
>> That's not Go to the Atlantic Ocean.01:50:43
>> Yeah. [snorts] So not all ocean but then01:50:46
there's a bay all sea is part of ocean.01:50:49
>> So it's some of the parts of the ocean.01:50:52
>> It's a part of an ocean that's like01:50:53
vaguely near land that's not just like01:50:56
far out. >> So it's not like a hard line. It's like01:50:58
a gradient.01:50:59
>> Yeah.01:51:01
>> That's a weird way of describing.01:51:03
>> I don't think so.01:51:04
>> But it's just like it makes you think01:51:06
any parts of the ocean that are near01:51:07
land are seas.01:51:08
>> It's a01:51:09
>> which is not true. Well, think of it01:51:10
this way is like when you're when you're01:51:12
actually sailing, right? Like land these01:51:16
like big masses of stuff really affect01:51:18
weather patterns.01:51:19
>> So, we talking about land.01:51:21
>> What? No, I'm talking about01:51:23
>> I like my GPT definition actually.01:51:25
>> Oh, no.01:51:27
>> Okay. And mine is personalized to give01:51:29
me analogy. So, it says, "Think of the01:51:30
ocean [laughter]01:51:32
as the plants giant main stage of salt01:51:34
water. There's only a few. They're01:51:35
immense. They're deep and they connect01:51:37
continents. A sea is like a side room01:51:40
off of that stage. Smaller, shallower,01:51:43
often partly enclosed by land and01:51:44
commonly linked to an ocean. So oceans01:51:47
shape global circulation and climate01:51:49
with broad uninterrupted waters. Seas01:51:51
sit on continental margins like the01:51:53
Caribbean Sea, the Mediterranean Sea.01:51:56
They can have distinct conditions and01:51:57
ecosystems and are more influenced by01:51:59
nearby land and rivers. Do they have to01:52:02
be a certain size? >> That's a better01:52:03
>> Ellis has the perfect image for this.01:52:05
So, if anyone is confused, look at the01:52:07
video version cuz I will have this image01:52:09
in the podcast. >> Do they need to be the same size?01:52:11
>> If you say you put it,01:52:12
>> it's the part of ocean by land. That's a01:52:15
confusing way of describing it.01:52:16
>> Wait, so the um cuz in Santa01:52:19
[clears throat] Cruz01:52:20
>> like that's a like that's a bay cuz01:52:22
there's Santa Cruz there's the Mterrey01:52:24
Bay which is like the area that01:52:27
separates Santa Cruz and Mterrey.01:52:28
>> Yeah. Wait, so what's the difference01:52:29
between a bay?01:52:31
>> Yeah, a bay. We're we're we're thinking01:52:33
of these terms as like, you know, these01:52:35
hard geographical or I guess not01:52:37
geographical, it's the ocean. But but01:52:39
the reason I would assume the reason01:52:42
that these terms are different is01:52:43
because when you're sailing on the01:52:45
water,01:52:46
>> the conditions, the average weather,01:52:48
it's going to be different when you're01:52:49
out in the open ocean versus vaguely01:52:52
near a mass of land. Right? So just01:52:55
saying the Atlantic Ocean has these01:52:57
conditions is not specific enough01:52:59
because the Labrador Sea and the Saraso01:53:02
Sea are going to be require different01:53:04
sailing techniques to traverse them.01:53:06
>> Also all the01:53:09
>> So the Gulf of Alaska Alaska goes all01:53:12
the way down to01:53:13
>> the Bearing Sea. Oh, all the way down.01:53:16
>> Yeah. where like01:53:18
>> Chilean,01:53:19
>> it's like the general01:53:20
>> like this is a bunch of seas01:53:23
and then all of a sudden it's like01:53:25
>> does it have something to do with like01:53:26
the ocean floor like where it drops off01:53:28
to deeper parts and that would be the01:53:30
ocean? >> Yeah, we could go to the Labrador Sea.01:53:32
>> I've never heard most01:53:33
>> Lincoln Sea01:53:34
>> because we're not you're not we're not01:53:36
sailing like they don't we're not01:53:38
traversing the oceans. They don't have01:53:39
meaningful differences.01:53:40
>> Also, the Gulf of Mexico. I'm just01:53:42
saying like this thing is01:53:43
>> not a sea.01:53:44
>> So it's even more enclosed cuz I'm01:53:46
looking at the the Bay of Bengal right01:53:48
now. I'm feeling like that's kind of a01:53:50
Gulf.01:53:51
>> We brought up a map that has a bunch of01:53:52
seas. None of us use the terms for it.01:53:55
But then it's also just missing a giant01:53:57
portion that's like still land connected01:54:00
to ocean.01:54:02
>> Yeah. [snorts] Anyway,01:54:03
>> this didn't help me at all.01:54:04
>> Yeah, this didn't help.01:54:05
>> What was your question? Wait, Ellis,01:54:07
what was your question?01:54:08
What's the difference between the01:54:10
>> I'm just saying the the original01:54:12
explanation was a poor explanation and01:54:14
Ellis is trying to prove it with a map01:54:16
that nobody cares about and is still01:54:17
proving me right.01:54:20
>> What's the sea off California?01:54:22
>> I near land. It might it might not have01:54:25
a denotation because it's not necessary01:54:27
to separate from the rest of the Pacific01:54:29
Ocean. This doesn't even the Pacific01:54:31
Ocean is called the Pacific Ocean01:54:32
because it's01:54:33
>> Yeah. Yeah. But all I'm never mind is a01:54:35
pointless conversation. What about01:54:36
around like Hawaii? Is there like a sea?01:54:38
>> No, it's the Pacific. I feel like that's01:54:40
too small.01:54:41
>> It doesn't talk about the Gulf of Mexico01:54:42
at all.01:54:44
>> It's supposed to be seas, which is weird01:54:45
that it says Gulf of Alaska.01:54:46
>> Yeah.01:54:48
>> Um I'm just saying I think the saying01:54:51
seas are oceans near land is confusing01:54:54
because there are also oceans near land.01:54:56
And I think just a step further01:54:58
explaining it01:54:59
>> is not that unreasonable.01:55:00
>> Apparently, the Hawaii Sea is the01:55:01
Pacific Ocean surrounding the Hawaiian01:55:03
Islands. Yeah,01:55:04
>> but that is that might be made up.01:55:06
>> So, I think you're agreeing with Ellis.01:55:08
You just wish that it was more specific.01:55:10
>> Less. That's all I've ever said.01:55:11
>> Less. He wants less specific.01:55:13
>> No, I want more specific.01:55:14
>> I thought you didn't want the seas. You01:55:16
just wanted the >> No, no. I'm just saying the very vague01:55:19
definition of a sea is ocean next to01:55:21
land,01:55:23
>> which is what you first said, right? Or01:55:25
am I wrong on that? And then my whole01:55:26
argument.01:55:27
>> It's technically not wrong, but it's not01:55:29
actually.01:55:30
>> I just don't think it's a good01:55:31
description. >> Wait, but look at this. The Caspian Sea01:55:33
is not even connected to the ocean.01:55:35
>> That's an That's a lake. The Caspian Sea01:55:37
is a lake. >> You just don't see it.01:55:38
>> The Caspian Sea is also fully01:55:40
landlocked. >> Really?01:55:41
>> I can see how the Black Sea is01:55:42
connected. I just don't see how the01:55:44
Caspian Sea >> Yeah. Wait, that that is The Caspian Sea01:55:46
isn't connected. It's landlocked.01:55:48
>> I mean, it's the biggest lake in the01:55:49
world. >> It might have a river that connects it01:55:50
to the ocean.01:55:51
>> Like the Great Lakes. No, I know this.01:55:53
The Caspian Sea is the biggest lake.01:55:55
>> Caspian. Oh, you're right.01:55:57
>> Maybe they just named it that before01:55:58
they made all these.01:55:59
>> This is man.01:56:01
This is bull.01:56:04
>> Caspian sea is01:56:05
>> you realize there's not like01:56:06
>> also the Black Sea01:56:07
>> like a like a like you realize there's01:56:09
not like some group of guys in suits who01:56:11
are like the the official government of01:56:13
of seas and saltwater that decide all01:56:15
this stuff. They just [laughter] these01:56:19
are these are these are these are terms01:56:21
that have been developed and cultivated01:56:23
over millennia of of ocean fairing. Like01:56:27
there doesn't have to be a reason. Then01:56:29
why did you ask us a trivia question01:56:31
ABOUT >> I DIDN'T I didn't do any of this.01:56:35
>> This is Adam. >> I'm trying to respect that sometimes01:56:38
language is cultivated by [laughter]01:56:41
over time people doing cool stuff and we01:56:44
can learn about that stuff and we don't01:56:45
need to be like that's stupid cuz it's01:56:47
not stupid.01:56:48
>> I think it's01:56:49
>> I guess my [laughter]01:56:51
>> my argument is if we want to learn more01:56:53
about it then we should have a better01:56:55
descriptor of it than just sea is ocean01:56:57
next to land. I think that doesn't give01:56:59
it enough. And I think there's a better01:57:02
way to describe it.01:57:03
>> To explain,01:57:05
we can use the simple it's near land01:57:07
because that will affect the ocean01:57:10
conditions, which is important because01:57:12
you need to know what kind of conditions01:57:14
your oceancraft is going to face. If you01:57:17
just >> I'm not doing this anymore. He's just01:57:19
not listening.01:57:20
>> I have an analogy. I think it's like how01:57:21
you still have the floppy disc as the01:57:24
save button.01:57:25
>> It's not actually a floppy disc. It's01:57:26
like an analogy for how we used to be.01:57:28
>> The Caspian Sea is the only one that's01:57:30
not connected to the ocean.01:57:31
>> When it was called the sea, they should01:57:32
rename it as01:57:33
>> Yeah. the Caspian Lake.01:57:35
>> Did you watch the the Hank Green video01:57:37
about fish recently? He talks about how01:57:40
there's all [snorts] this argument01:57:42
argument about whether sharks are fish01:57:44
or jellyfish fish. What actually is a01:57:46
fish? And the deeper you get into it,01:57:48
the more you realize it's literally01:57:50
impossible to decide a clear line of01:57:53
what I don't know why you're never mind01:57:56
>> because you're so mad at me cuz you01:57:58
think I don't believe you, but I believe01:58:00
you. And I'm just saying it would be01:58:02
easier for an average person to01:58:04
understand it with one more sentence01:58:06
tacked onto that. What I'm trying to say01:58:08
is the average person does not need to01:58:11
understand it because the actual cool,01:58:14
interesting, functional truth is01:58:16
complicated.01:58:17
>> The truth isn't complicated.01:58:18
>> It's it's based on all of01:58:20
>> But your answer to a complicated thing01:58:21
is01:58:23
>> be as vague as possible as the01:58:25
definition of it.01:58:28
I [snorts] I honestly don't over01:58:33
>> did say that uh listen to God01:58:35
>> the Hawaii Sea the ocean around Hawaii.01:58:38
>> No it did not.01:58:39
>> I googled Hawaii sea though so I let it01:58:41
on. I definitely01:58:42
>> Does Hawaii Sea exist?01:58:43
>> I don't know. AI overview seems01:58:45
>> you were asking for it Marquez.01:58:46
>> All I did was Google Hawaii Sea and it01:58:48
said Oh yeah. Yeah. Hawaii Sea. That's01:58:50
that's the water around Hawaii.01:58:52
>> And I figured that's all I need to know.01:58:54
>> All right. All right. Are you leading01:58:56
into the Android stuff? Okay, [snorts]01:58:58
let's hit it.01:59:00
>> All right, welcome back. Uh, there's01:59:03
>> the difference between an ocean and a01:59:04
sea. [laughter]01:59:05
>> Oh my gosh.01:59:06
>> I will01:59:07
>> catchy.01:59:08
>> This all stemmed from be being horribly01:59:11
wrong about seas in the first place two01:59:13
episodes ago. [laughter]01:59:14
>> Really?01:59:15
>> Well, I just said like, "No, season01:59:17
oceans are different."01:59:18
>> They are different.01:59:19
>> I know. And I know that. And01:59:20
>> Oh, but you said it like joking back01:59:22
then. >> No, no, no. I thought they were or like01:59:24
uh01:59:25
>> I use them as synonyms cuz people say01:59:27
the seven C's all the time. Wait, but it01:59:29
also01:59:32
back No, no, it did start from me being01:59:38
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