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>> Did you ever think you were made again?00:00:04
[Applause]00:00:09
>> Adam, what's your point?00:00:11
>> The future looks bright.00:00:13
>> My handshake is better than anything I00:00:15
ever saw. It's right here.00:00:17
>> You are a one.00:00:18
>> My son's right. I don't think I've ever00:00:20
said this before.00:00:22
[Music]00:00:26
>> How you doing?00:00:27
>> Good to see you.00:00:28
>> Good to see you. the head of the FDA,00:00:30
Dr. Marty McCrae.00:00:31
>> Good Lucari.00:00:33
>> Great to be here. Um, I'm in I'm in the00:00:35
belly of the beast. I must say, when I00:00:36
first heard of your podcast and and my00:00:40
team said, "I'm coming on," I said,00:00:42
"Finally, a podcast about pancreatic00:00:45
biliary diseases."00:00:46
>> That's right. And that's all we're going00:00:48
to talk about today. I'm glad you00:00:49
brought that up as an expert in that00:00:51
preview. You know, my background, I'm00:00:52
going to be able to ask you some00:00:53
technical questions in that. No, but00:00:55
it's great to have you here and and one00:00:57
of the things I love that we're doing is00:00:59
the fact that you're going on the road00:01:00
talking to anybody and everybody and to00:01:03
me that gives trust in me that you're00:01:05
willing to talk and share what's going00:01:06
on and also educate us because I think00:01:09
sometimes you know whether we can go to00:01:11
previous or even not even previous00:01:13
historically it's been you don't go and00:01:16
talk to people because what if you get00:01:17
caught off guard and it's a little too00:01:19
risky you shouldn't talk we're just the00:01:21
expert let's just tell people what to do00:01:22
and they got to do it so I respect you00:01:24
for coming Having said that, I just want00:01:25
to kind of open it up with what stories00:01:27
uh what items I want to talk about so00:01:29
the audience is aware and then we'll go00:01:30
from there. One, I want to talk about00:01:31
what's going to happen with Fouchy. I00:01:33
think a lot of people when you know you00:01:35
hear the story of 20 million people that00:01:37
died during COVID, we want to know if00:01:38
there's going to be any level of00:01:39
accountability. Two, uh as a father of00:01:42
four, I got two girls. I'm curious when00:01:45
you study the history, my wife and I00:01:46
were talking about this last week on00:01:49
girls who were having periods at 17, 1800:01:52
and the 1900s. in the 1800s and in the00:01:55
1900s was 161 17 then in the 50s it went00:01:58
to 141 15 then it goes to 13 and now00:02:01
today it's at 11 years old what's00:02:03
causing that curious about that of00:02:04
course we'll talk about autism as well00:02:06
and then the food pyramid how we went00:02:08
from food pyramid to my plate00:02:11
and what is the next thing we're going00:02:12
to be you know introducing because for00:02:14
longest time we're like eat your grains00:02:16
6 to 11 and you know they're good but to00:02:18
eat that much of it and the amount of00:02:20
lobbying that takes place with that and00:02:22
a myocarditis this and a few other00:02:24
topics that we'll get into, but I'm00:02:26
excited to have you here. So, having00:02:27
said that, to the average person, tell00:02:30
us the history of FDA. How did it get00:02:31
started? Why did it get started?00:02:33
>> Yeah, so it's um a fascinating history.00:02:35
It was a little over a hundred years00:02:37
ago, there were some um essentially some00:02:41
toxic chemicals that appeared uh and00:02:45
people were were getting very sick and00:02:47
even dying. So, a small group of people00:02:49
led an investigation to figure out where00:02:51
these chemicals were originating from.00:02:53
You know, they used to put mercury in00:02:56
some foods. There used to be heavy00:02:57
metals and Coca-Cola had cocaine in it.00:03:00
That's why it was called Coke initially.00:03:02
So, the FDA began by sort of doing00:03:04
investigations and people thought, hey,00:03:06
there's value in this. Now, it regulates00:03:09
20% of the US economy. Should probably00:03:12
be 15% or something far less. And um it00:03:17
we have offices in 50 countries and it00:03:20
oversees everything from mangoes coming00:03:23
across the border to cosmetics to MRI00:03:26
machines and microwave ovens to tobacco00:03:29
and vape products to wearables and00:03:32
devices and of course drugs. Got it. And00:03:35
uh for for yourself, you know, obviously00:03:38
I watched you when you were coming up00:03:41
and when they were saying he could be00:03:42
the head of the FBA, he could be the00:03:44
head of the FDA and everybody was00:03:45
following kind of some of the things you00:03:46
were talking. We've listened to you for00:03:48
many years when when especially during00:03:50
co when you would come out and talk00:03:51
about certain things, but uh for you00:03:54
having the job now one, how was the00:03:57
phone call made? Who called you and00:03:58
offered you the job? And what's the00:04:01
experience been for you so far? Do you00:04:03
actually feel like you can make direct00:04:04
impact?00:04:05
>> Yeah, I it's an awesome job. You can00:04:08
actually do stuff. You can actually get00:04:11
stuff done with a very high level of00:04:13
impact in society. I've been there about00:04:16
uh 8 months. We've gotten a tremendous00:04:19
amount of stuff done. Uh eliminating00:04:22
animal testing that's unnecessary. Uh00:04:25
the removal of the petroleum based food00:04:28
dyes. They've been talking about that00:04:29
for 35 years. talking about getting rid00:04:31
of one dye for 35 years.00:04:32
>> Within weeks, we announced the removal00:04:35
of all nine artificial dies from the US00:04:37
food supply. We're making our decisions.00:04:39
If we reject a product, we're making00:04:41
those letters public so the public can00:04:43
see why. We've got AI in the agency.00:04:46
We're cutting red tape. We're focusing00:04:48
on cures and meaningful treatments. And00:04:51
that's just the first eight months. So,00:04:53
I'm very grateful to President Trump00:04:55
when he called me and said, "Hey, is00:04:58
this something you'll consider?" Um,00:05:00
he's an amazing guy. He's a phenom.00:05:02
Really has more energy than anybody and00:05:05
instincts better than some of the00:05:07
academic elites in America. So, it's00:05:10
just a huge honor to work with him and00:05:12
Secretary Kennedy and Memed Oz and Jay00:05:14
Buddy and the gang.00:05:15
>> It's a it's great to see this team00:05:17
there. Okay. It's very good to see the00:05:19
team there and it's you know because00:05:21
these are the guys that were sometimes00:05:22
the most vocal during co so the people00:05:25
are like okay great you're in are you00:05:27
actually going to be able to do the00:05:29
things that we want so one question for00:05:31
you you know when you get a job like00:05:32
this I'm assuming if we were boys if00:05:35
we're friends and say we went to school00:05:37
together and you went to the you know00:05:39
medical route and I going to the finance00:05:40
route and we're having dinner we're at a00:05:43
game we're watching football you're a00:05:44
football guy I'm a football guy we're00:05:46
watching we're like hey you know Joe Bur00:05:47
just said he's going to come back and00:05:48
all this stuff. Ah, it's great. He's00:05:50
coming back. And I tell you, I say, "So,00:05:52
listen. Between you and I, we've known00:05:54
each other for 40 years, okay? From00:05:56
seventh grade. These are three things I00:05:58
want to see you do, bro. You know, like00:06:00
friends are talking to friends, right? I00:06:02
want to see this, this, this, this,00:06:03
that. Now, you know, you probably only00:06:05
have three people that will talk to you00:06:06
like that. Five people that will talk to00:06:08
you like that. But the people that are00:06:10
closest to you now that they know that00:06:12
you're in, what are what are folks00:06:15
telling you, man, I hope you get to the00:06:17
bottom of this and this and this. What00:06:19
are the three things your friends,00:06:21
specifically friends, maybe not even00:06:23
from the medical space, but friends00:06:24
telling you they'd like to see you00:06:25
pursue?00:06:26
>> Man, that's a good question. Now I see00:06:28
why your podcast is one of the top rated00:06:30
in America. Look, we're we're00:06:32
unfiltered. All of us uh the team, we00:06:35
are uh unfiltered. We are raw. We are uh00:06:40
honest and what you see is what you get.00:06:42
We're not going to put something in00:06:44
political speak and massage and give you00:06:46
some boring speech. Uh you know, they00:06:48
give me speeches that, you know, the00:06:50
team gives you speeches when you're in00:06:52
these jobs and you go into this00:06:53
association and you're supposed to, you00:06:55
know, read this speech. I can't do it. I00:06:58
can't read these speeches. They're so00:07:00
darn boring. I'd fall asleep. I fall00:07:02
asleep reading. So, we're going to give00:07:04
it to you like it is. And we're not00:07:05
going to be shy. My friends tell me they00:07:08
want to fix the food supply00:07:10
>> and they want to see cures for certain00:07:12
diseases. And I think we can deliver00:07:14
cures for certain diseases. I think in00:07:17
in this administration, you're going to00:07:18
see a meaningful powerful treatment00:07:22
through cutting the red tape and being00:07:24
proactive00:07:26
for neurodeenerative diseases, for type00:07:30
1 diabetes, for certain types of cancer.00:07:34
We just gave a priority review voucher00:07:37
to a company that makes a drug that00:07:41
takes certain rectal cancers of certain00:07:44
gene subtypes. It's a sub small sub00:07:46
subset of 10 uh 5 to 10% of rectal00:07:50
cancers. The drug literally melts the00:07:52
tumor away to zero. No chemo, no00:07:55
surgery, no radiation. That's the kind00:07:57
of stuff patients deserve. And that's00:07:59
the sort of stuff that's new in our00:08:01
health care system where we're throwing00:08:03
good money after bad into this broken00:08:05
system. We've got to innovate. We got to00:08:07
promote innovation. So I would say the00:08:09
food is the biggest thing and then cures00:08:12
for certain conditions and we're going00:08:14
to deliver on both. We're rewriting the00:08:15
food pyramid right now.00:08:17
>> You're rewriting the food pyramid.00:08:18
>> Yeah. It was written by the companies00:08:20
based on what they wanted to buy.00:08:21
>> Yeah.00:08:22
>> And when when should we be expecting the00:08:25
new food pyramid?00:08:26
>> I think in the next couple months. Okay.00:08:28
because we're and it's going to be00:08:29
short. It might be five pages, right?00:08:31
You put out this classic government00:08:33
disconnect from the American people. You00:08:35
put out a 200page document, no one's00:08:37
going to read it. You put out something00:08:38
that's four or five pages. Now, every00:08:41
single school board member in America,00:08:43
every parent can understand that we00:08:46
don't need to wage a war on natural00:08:49
saturated fat. Where did that come from?00:08:50
That was medical dogma. Medical00:08:54
establishment got that wrong for 5000:08:55
years. try to blame everything on00:08:57
saturated fat. Moved all these kids in00:08:59
school to lowfat things where they00:09:01
pounded them with refined carbohydrates.00:09:03
So, we're going to be honest with00:09:04
people. Uh we're going to talk about00:09:06
protein. We're going to talk about fiber00:09:08
and the types of grains you get, not00:09:10
just calories in equals calories out.00:09:13
And it doesn't matter what what the how00:09:15
processed the food is. So, we're going00:09:16
to be honest with people and I think00:09:18
you're going to see a meaningful change.00:09:20
give us any hints any any anything00:09:23
that's majorly different because the00:09:25
original food pyramid we saw was from00:09:27
what 92 to05 and then they changed it to00:09:30
I believe my plate is it called my plate00:09:33
>> my plate and then they had the food00:09:35
compass which uh and came out of an NIH00:09:38
study that said uh Lucky Charms was00:09:40
healthier than a steak00:09:42
>> Lucky Charms was healthier than a steak00:09:44
>> so when you hear stuff like this I mean00:09:48
you know no wonder people don't trust00:09:50
eee it's going to be very hard I mean00:09:52
I'm actually curious you know as we go00:09:54
through this how you going to be working00:09:55
on regaining the trust because after co00:09:58
people haven't trusted this probably for00:10:01
the last 5 years and that's going to be00:10:03
a lot of work for you guys00:10:05
well I think that's one of our big goals00:10:07
to rebuild public trust and we're doing00:10:09
it by trying to show some humility in00:10:12
our approach being extremely honest and00:10:15
by talking to the public we're not00:10:17
living in a black box in an ivory tower00:10:19
I'm here and I've been talking to people00:10:21
that want to have a serious conversation00:10:23
about what's wrong with our health care00:10:25
system. And we don't talk about when we00:10:28
talk about healthcare and everyone's00:10:29
talking about how to finance our broken00:10:31
healthare system. What's been missing00:10:34
are the two root causes. The price of00:10:37
goods and services is way too high and00:10:40
it could be much lower. You're seeing00:10:42
President Trump now announce lower drug00:10:45
prices at the price of pennies on the00:10:49
dollar of what these drugs used to be.00:10:51
And the other issue is the health of the00:10:54
population. No one talks about the fact00:10:55
that 40% of our nation's kids have a00:10:57
chronic disease. Many of them take00:10:59
regular medications. What's going on00:11:02
here? We're just medicating our nation's00:11:04
kids at scale and nobody is saying stop00:11:06
and and look up and look around and see00:11:10
what we're doing. We take these kids and00:11:13
we, you know, rattle them in the middle00:11:15
of the night in their circadian rhythm.00:11:18
We put them on a school bus, not because00:11:19
it's good for their uh circadian rhythm,00:11:22
but because it's convenient for adults00:11:23
going to work. And then we pound them00:11:25
with ultrarocessed foods and high00:11:27
glycemic loads, and we tell them to sit00:11:29
still at a desk. And then we pound them00:11:30
again with an ultrarocessed lunch. And00:11:33
then we tell them to sit still again and00:11:34
they can't do it. They got to sort of00:11:36
sugar comb. And then what do we do? We00:11:38
we tell them, "You're a bad kid." And we00:11:40
drug our nation's kids at scale. They00:11:42
have less natural light exposure than00:11:45
prisoners. What is going on? So, we've00:11:48
got to talk about these root causes. So,00:11:49
we're taking we're talk talking about00:11:51
all of this stuff and we're doing00:11:53
research and we're talking about um the00:11:56
medicalization of ordinary life. So your00:12:00
friends, their top three things. One was00:12:03
food supply, two was cure for diseases,00:12:06
which you just talked about, cancer, uh00:12:08
other things that we're talking about.00:12:11
>> Where was investigating Fouchy on the00:12:14
list?00:12:16
>> A lot of people are angry at Fouchy. A00:12:18
lot of people have a right to be angry.00:12:20
>> You were angry. You were very angry with00:12:21
him. You said a few things about him as00:12:23
well, right? a few years ago. You were00:12:25
you were very uh uh uh bold about it uh00:12:29
uh on what he was. You were probably one00:12:31
of the most vocal ones towards him.00:12:33
>> When we were all trying to figure out00:12:35
COVID at the very beginning, I was00:12:37
editor-inchief of one of the largest00:12:39
trade publications that doctors read00:12:41
called Med Page today. And I figured we00:12:44
were hearing stories about Wuhan, China.00:12:48
I got to figure out the real the real00:12:50
story. I don't want to hear political00:12:51
pundits so pine and talk about American00:12:54
resilience. Remember that whole we'll be00:12:56
fine, we'll be strong. What the heck are00:12:58
you talking about? We have to understand00:13:00
the transmissibility,00:13:02
the viral load, the treatments. And so I00:13:05
went deep dive on this. I called doctors00:13:07
in Wuhan during that whole outbreak and00:13:10
I basically00:13:12
started to realize that Fouchi was00:13:14
misleading the public. the only there's00:13:17
only three corona viruses that cause00:13:19
severe illness in humans. Uh SARS, MS00:13:24
and COVID 19. Well, the other two are00:13:28
airborne. Why did he think this suddenly00:13:30
took a turn and was just going to be00:13:32
different and telling teachers in the in00:13:34
the summer of 2020 to wear gloves and00:13:37
goggles and, you know, pour a gallon of00:13:40
alcohol solution on your mail and I00:13:42
mean, what the heck was going on? So I00:13:44
realized when he was being introduced on00:13:46
the media as our nation's top remember00:13:49
this our nation's top infectious00:13:51
diseases doctor I knew the guy had not00:13:54
done an infectious diseases fellowship00:13:56
training and there was this sort of uh00:13:59
bandwagon thinking we see it a lot in00:14:01
medicine we see it with you know opioids00:14:04
are not addictive how dare you disagree00:14:06
we got that wrong for 15 years it's an00:14:08
old story in medicine and so um now I00:14:12
realize as I was trying to figure things00:14:14
out and be independent from just00:14:16
reciting the catechism that Fouchi put00:14:18
out. What he was doing with his time is00:14:22
leading a massive cover up of the00:14:25
possibility that this came from the00:14:26
Wuhan lab, which any smart person will00:14:29
tell you it's obvious, right? The00:14:30
epicenter of the world was 5 miles from00:14:33
the lab. The lab had submitted, we just00:14:36
learned this about two years ago, and00:14:38
there's a great film called Thank You00:14:40
Dr. Fouchy00:14:42
and it goes through all this and um that00:14:45
lab had submitted a grant proposal to00:14:48
the United States government two years00:14:50
before CO in 201800:14:53
saying the proposal said we at the Wuhan00:14:57
lab would like to take a bat corona00:14:59
virus and genetically modify it by00:15:02
inserting the furine cleavage sites to00:15:06
enable it to infect humans.00:15:09
Now what? It was the cookbook for CO 19.00:15:13
And then people are acting like, "Oh, we00:15:15
don't know where it came from.00:15:16
>> They were plotting to do it. They had00:15:18
the resources to do it. They filed for a00:15:20
patent for a COVID 19 vaccine in like00:15:22
February of 2020. How do you have a00:15:24
patent on a vaccine that early? People00:15:27
have a right to be angry. Uh I'm angry.00:15:29
20 million people may have died00:15:31
globally. Uh $25 trillion. And people in00:15:36
the United States got so polarized. this00:15:38
toxic polarization that got spun up by00:15:40
affirming media where the they're angry00:15:42
at everybody. They're angry at a at a00:15:44
college kid who's healthy. There's no00:15:46
risk of dying of COVID because he's not00:15:49
getting his second COVID booster shot.00:15:51
They're angry at somebody not wearing a00:15:53
mask outside, a cloth mask. And they're00:15:55
angry at everybody, but they're not00:15:57
angry at the scientists that brewed this00:15:59
up at the lab. They were mad scientists.00:16:01
>> So, what what should happen though? I00:16:03
mean, if if you think about, you know,00:16:06
here's a guy who said, you know, masks,00:16:09
yeah, you got to wear masks and the00:16:10
cameras were off. He's taking the masks00:16:12
off. Here's a guy that's I probably will00:16:13
never shake another person's hand ever00:16:15
again. It's probably a good idea to00:16:17
never shake someone's head ever again.00:16:18
What are you talking about? I mean, you00:16:19
came in right now. We shook hands.00:16:21
That's one way of greeting each other,00:16:22
right? Uh he says, "You should trust me.00:16:25
I I think you're I'm somebody you should00:16:26
trust. Trust science." He kept saying00:16:28
this over and over and over again and00:16:30
then making people feel guilty. So now00:16:33
people sit there and listen to them. You00:16:35
know, six-foot rule. I never said that.00:16:37
You kind of did. And hey, you know, my00:16:40
grandma's dying. No, you can't go see00:16:41
her. Why? Because you may give her CO or00:16:43
you may give you CO. I never saw my00:16:45
grandma on her deathbed. There's a lot00:16:47
of people that went through this kind of00:16:48
stuff.00:16:49
>> Yeah. >> What What can you do? What can you know00:16:55
HHS do to make those people whole and00:16:59
say, you know what, I'm good. We got to00:17:01
the bottom of it. Now I can live my life00:17:04
and accountability's been held. What do00:17:06
you think can happen for those people to00:17:08
be comfortable moving forward?00:17:12
I don't know. But people want closure.00:17:14
They want a proper investigation. They00:17:17
want justice to be served. There was00:17:19
clearly a a massive cover up. I mean00:17:22
3:00 a.m. emails going on when Fouchi00:17:26
was told that uh hey this uh you know00:17:29
the Wuhan lab is being implicated and we00:17:33
funded the Wuhan lab they um00:17:36
>> 3:00 a.m. email that is00:17:38
>> yeah to the head of the committee that's00:17:40
supposed to approve gain of function00:17:42
research and Fouchy and Collins had00:17:45
created a system. So, you know, the00:17:47
origin is that in Wisconsin in00:17:51
conjunction with another lab, they did00:17:53
an experiment where they juiced up a a00:17:55
flu virus to make it very deadly. And00:17:58
they showed that it infected these00:18:00
ferrets, which are known respiratory00:18:02
models used for uh research. and they00:18:06
published this article and the basically00:18:08
the researchers said um hey we juiced up00:18:12
we Frankensteined a very deadly virus00:18:15
and we show that it's contagious and the00:18:17
world scientific community read this00:18:19
article and said what the hell did you00:18:22
just do no one should ever do this just00:18:26
because you can do something in science00:18:27
doesn't mean you should this is a bunch00:18:28
of mad scientists and they li they00:18:31
petitioned President Obama at the time00:18:33
to ban gain of function research and he00:18:36
to his credit put a moratorum on it.00:18:39
Well, Fouchy and Collins were known to00:18:41
oppose this moratorum and they did their00:18:44
bureaucratic ways to make sure that they00:18:47
could continue to do this including00:18:49
writing an op-ed called titled something00:18:53
like dangerous uh flu research that you00:18:57
know gain of function research a risk00:18:59
worth taking. and they changed the00:19:01
definition and they worked around the00:19:03
committee that was supposed to approve00:19:05
grants for gain of function research and00:19:06
they continued to fund gain of function00:19:09
research. Uh now President Trump uh one00:19:12
of his first things when we all took our00:19:14
office was to ban gain of function00:19:16
research any dangerous gain of function00:19:18
research. Fouchi will still play parse00:19:21
his words. He's kind of a master at it.00:19:24
uh like when he said I had never called00:19:26
for schools to be closed. Well, when00:19:28
Dantis reopened the schools, he said00:19:31
this is extremely dangerous, right? And00:19:33
people could die and so I mean he's a00:19:36
he's the master of sort of00:19:38
circumlocution. You know, I don't know00:19:41
what's going to happen, but people have00:19:43
a right to be angry.00:19:44
>> So, okay. So, currently right now, he00:19:47
had his00:19:50
uh what do you call it? He got his00:19:51
pardon, right? He got the stamp pardon.00:19:53
Hunter Biden got the signature pardon00:19:55
from Daddy, but he got the autopan00:19:57
pardon, right?00:19:58
>> Let's just say the investigation comes00:19:59
out00:20:00
>> and00:20:02
it's been removed. He's not pardoned. He00:20:04
was at Dick Cheneyy's funeral the other00:20:06
day, sitting right next to Rachel Maddo.00:20:07
A funeral he probably he would have00:20:08
never been to if Trump was never the00:20:11
president because these guys hated Dick00:20:12
Cheney. So for them to go, the only00:20:14
reason they went to Dick Cheneyy's00:20:15
funeral is because their daughter hates00:20:17
Trump. So it's kind of like a they have00:20:18
a mutual enemy, right? So, he's at the00:20:20
funeral, but let's just say the autopin00:20:23
comes back. He's been very low-key, very00:20:24
quiet. He's no longer the sexiest man on00:20:26
earth according to Guardian. He's been00:20:28
kind of like the most hidden man on00:20:30
earth right now. You can't find him. But00:20:33
say if it's removed and then you can00:20:35
investigate him. Would you support00:20:37
Fouchy being investigated to find out00:20:39
his involvement in COVID with 20 million00:20:42
people dying around the world?00:20:44
>> Absolutely >> you would support it.00:20:45
>> Yeah. Now, he just so you know, he gave00:20:48
a grand rounds distinguished lecture at00:20:51
John's Hopkins where I was before I came00:20:53
to the FDA, I think a couple weeks00:20:55
before I took office. And he got a00:20:57
standing ovation and they're praising00:20:59
him and fawning over him.00:21:01
>> What year was this?00:21:02
>> This was nine months ago. Oh,00:21:04
>> this is this is just before I took00:21:07
office at the FDA.00:21:08
>> 25.00:21:09
>> Yeah. And he's given distinguished00:21:10
lectures all over the place. And you00:21:12
know the audiences are clapping like00:21:13
seals and there's this group think in00:21:17
medicine and you know it's again00:21:19
affirming news out there and and Trump00:21:22
derangement syndrome and you know he00:21:24
made a bunch of mistakes. Okay, people00:21:26
are human. But then when Biden took00:21:28
office, he elevated him to be the chief00:21:32
medical adviser. And elevating a guy00:21:36
with that many errors when you get that00:21:38
many things wrong in a short period of00:21:41
time. And then you to me that was a00:21:44
major turn of events.00:21:46
>> Yeah. So uh I guess it's going to be a00:21:49
two uh uh step process. One they have to00:21:52
get to the bottom of the autopen. If00:21:54
they do, if they don't, nothing can00:21:57
happen. If they do, then it can be00:21:59
opened up. And you know, some tells me00:22:02
RFK Jr., he would probably want to get00:22:05
to the bottom of it. I know Rand Paul, I00:22:07
know a lot of other people want to get00:22:08
get to the bottom of it to see what00:22:09
would happen there. Because,00:22:10
>> you know, again, you sit here, you're00:22:11
like, well, you know, what's the big00:22:14
deal? Let's just move on. You know, that00:22:16
is the most annoying thing for people to00:22:18
hear. Let's just move on.00:22:20
>> You know, we investigated Watergate and00:22:22
nobody got killed. It was like the end00:22:24
of the world. Watergate, you know, we00:22:27
investigated 911 was only 20 months.00:22:29
This kind of gives me the vibes of 911.00:22:31
Let's just kind of move quickly on and00:22:33
not look back. We investigated a lot of00:22:34
these things for a long time. You know,00:22:37
World War I killed 15 to 17 million00:22:39
people. This thing killed 20 million00:22:41
people and there is not a trilateral,00:22:45
you know, investigation to see who was00:22:47
involved, who knew, who didn't know.00:22:49
Yeah. You know, I I think the level of00:22:51
frustration with the American people00:22:54
specifically is that the government's00:22:58
just going to be like, "Trust me, the00:22:59
American people are going to forget.00:23:00
We're going to move on." I don't know if00:23:02
this is going to be that because the00:23:03
next time another pandemic comes up,00:23:06
they're like, "I still don't trust you00:23:07
guys got your stuff together. I still00:23:09
don't even know what we're going to be00:23:10
doing." Because typically, if you run a00:23:11
business, private corporation, you run00:23:13
it, there's a mistake. What do we do? We00:23:15
sit there, we go through, we're like,00:23:16
"Well, okay, great. All right. So, what00:23:19
did he do? What did she do? What00:23:20
happened here? Can we see the emails?00:23:22
Can we see the exchange?00:23:24
He didn't do anything wrong. She's00:23:26
right. That one is a little bit strange00:23:28
on when he quit and when he put his00:23:29
letter of resignation in. Let's00:23:31
investigate it. Oh, so he started a00:23:32
business on the side and didn't tell us00:23:34
about it. And that was the one that he00:23:35
was selling us items. Let's investigate00:23:37
him. Have the lawyers go through it.00:23:38
They did. Oh, He's guilty. Okay,00:23:40
great. Well, guess what? in a future the00:23:43
next time somebody brings new companies00:23:45
for us to use we have to see who the00:23:46
board of directors of that company is we00:23:48
have to find that so this is never going00:23:49
to happen again all right this is the00:23:51
new protocol let's move forward that's00:23:53
corporations that's private corporation00:23:55
we don't have that there so for us to00:23:58
for for the people to fully trust I00:24:01
don't think it's going to happen unless00:24:03
we can like the word you use which was a00:24:05
perfect word have closure I don't think00:24:07
we've had it yet00:24:08
>> no not at all and Again, compare the00:24:12
rage of the left when when a 25-year-old00:24:18
teacher did not want to get the COVID00:24:20
shot because they wanted to get they00:24:23
were trying to get pregnant with their00:24:24
husband and they had concerns. They had00:24:27
some questions. And these people00:24:30
insisted they be fired from their jobs.00:24:32
Almost a million Americans, they had to00:24:34
be fired from their jobs. the rage, the00:24:36
out the outrage and all fueled by this00:24:39
affirming media. And then a guy was00:24:43
implicated in a bunch of mad scientists00:24:46
brewing up a virus that killed 2000:24:48
million people, a generation of children00:24:51
now with learning loss. And people say,00:24:54
"Oh, well, you know what? He tried his00:24:56
best and let's just move on." And what00:24:58
what I mean, we've got to rebuild trust.00:25:01
And I think I hope everybody watches the00:25:04
film. Thank you, Dr. Fouchy. You know,00:25:06
Google suppressed it, so it's hard to00:25:08
find, but it's an incredible independent00:25:11
documentary that goes through what is an00:25:14
an overwhelming accumulation of00:25:16
circumstantial evidence.00:25:17
>> You know, if they watch it, they're00:25:18
going to come back and say, "Okay, doc,00:25:20
what are we going to do about it?"00:25:22
Because it's going to go back to, "Let's00:25:24
do something about it." Right? Because00:25:25
that's that's the closure part. So, I00:25:27
have friends who00:25:28
>> will say things like this. They're like,00:25:30
"Man, I just I have guys here. They'll00:25:32
say, I feel like crap, man. I had to00:25:33
take it because at my job if I didn't00:25:35
take it they were going to fire me and00:25:37
you know I feel certain symptoms in my00:25:38
body and they'll say things like that if00:25:40
my body is acting different. How can do00:25:43
do we get to the bottom of people who00:25:45
took it? Is there anything they can do00:25:46
to get any of it out of their system or00:25:49
no? That's part of the risk you take by00:25:51
taking it.00:25:53
>> It it was an unexpected finding. They00:25:56
were downplaying it as the vaccine was00:25:58
being rolled out. And look, when it was00:26:01
a good match for the circulating virus00:26:03
at the time, at the end of Operation00:26:04
Warp Speed when it was produced, it was00:26:06
it was saving lives. You saw a reduction00:26:09
in the severity of illness right in00:26:10
front of your eyes. But then young,00:26:13
healthy people, it turns out, have00:26:15
essentially no risk of dying of COVID.00:26:17
And nobody was honest enough to admit00:26:19
that. Fouchi came from the HIV community00:26:22
where the message was everybody is at00:26:26
risk, right? No one should think they're00:26:28
not at risk of HIV. Everybody is at00:26:30
risk. And it was the same dogma that was00:26:32
put out there. And now we learned the00:26:37
virus particles were showing up in the00:26:39
breast milk of lactating mothers. We00:26:41
hear stories of long-term complications00:26:44
that were attributed to long CO and they00:26:47
were not. They were vaccine injuries. Uh00:26:49
we've been looking into some of the00:26:51
vaccine injuries. We found that they00:26:53
were sitting on myocarditis data at the00:26:56
FDA. It was far worse at the CDC. They00:26:59
were designing scientific studies as00:27:02
research propaganda as as political00:27:05
propaganda. The studies were so flawed00:27:08
in their design. It was jerryrigged to00:27:11
give you a result that the party the00:27:13
political party literally wanted. at the00:27:16
FDA. They fired00:27:18
uh the two top vaccine experts because00:27:21
they disagreed on the approval of the00:27:24
COVID booster in young healthy kids. It00:27:26
got no media attention, but it they they00:27:29
literally put political interference at00:27:32
it at its highest peak.00:27:34
>> So, is there anything people can do to00:27:36
get it out of their system today or or00:27:37
no?00:27:38
>> Not that I know of.00:27:39
>> Got it.00:27:40
>> Yeah. Because I'll talk to friends and00:27:41
they'll say, "I think I have long00:27:42
COVID." And one guy, good friend, he's00:27:46
known in the space. He'll always he's00:27:48
got CO, he's got long CO, he's got long00:27:49
CO. Is long CO tied to vaccines or is00:27:55
long CO tied to actually getting CO? Do00:27:58
we know yet? We don't know. We we know00:28:00
that there are complic long long-term00:28:04
complications of the infection of the CO00:28:07
infection itself. And there are some00:28:09
people who are vaccine injured and and00:28:11
we all know people. It's not it's not a00:28:14
case report. It's not one or two people00:28:16
in the in the country. We all we all00:28:18
know of people I mean I know of three00:28:20
people not personally but through one00:28:23
degree of separation who died from the00:28:25
COVID vaccine.00:28:27
>> Okay. >> Who died from the vaccine.00:28:29
>> Yeah. One of them was here in South00:28:30
Florida. Okay. I know of a cardiologist00:28:33
in um South Florida here who will tell00:28:36
you he's seen scores of people who have00:28:38
come in with cardiac complications of00:28:40
the vaccine. scores.00:28:42
>> Wow.00:28:43
>> And but you've not been able to speak up00:28:46
on this. Facebook and the White House00:28:48
were literally censoring true stories of00:28:51
vaccine complications.00:28:53
So, um it's the these are not ultra rare00:28:57
things that and look if somebody was00:28:59
ultra high risk of COVID, maybe it made00:29:01
sense when it was a good match. But now00:29:03
we have natural immunity. We have00:29:06
different circulating strains than were00:29:08
originally circulating. they're less00:29:10
dangerous. And these are nuanced topics,00:29:13
but the way that we kicked out kids from00:29:16
school if they didn't have the CO shot.00:29:19
The way that we gave people a false00:29:21
sense of of uh protection that if they00:29:25
wore a cloth mask, they could go visit00:29:27
grandma and they didn't have to worry00:29:29
about the cloth mask did nothing. You're00:29:31
breathing right through it, right00:29:33
through the pores of the And so it was00:29:34
it was basically a pandemic of lunacy,00:29:38
pandemic of misinformation.00:29:40
And the real information was nuanced and00:29:43
got censored.00:29:44
>> Yeah. Because when when you think about00:29:46
the video clips that we all saw, you're00:29:47
you're a football guy, the Bills, you00:29:50
watch all these games, you're like, why00:29:52
are people passing out? Right. You00:29:54
you've seen those clips, Rob. I don't00:29:55
know if you have it or not. There's00:29:57
clips. I mean, here's one of them.00:29:58
There's a there's a list of these right00:30:00
of people just passing out.00:30:05
We can't hear the audio rap.00:30:07
>> These began tracing small patterns,00:30:10
inflammation, bloodlets, micro clots00:30:12
weeks after certain shots. Most never00:30:14
noticed, but for athletes, the immune00:30:16
system hits too hard. The same spike00:30:18
that's meant to protect starts vessel00:30:21
walls. Breath thickens, flow slows.00:30:24
Boom. Iskeia doctors call it vaccine00:30:26
induced immune thrombotic event rare?00:30:30
Yes, imagine no it's in the lancet and00:30:33
an EGM. The question isn't if it happens00:30:36
but why somebody's break the code00:30:38
genetics guts toxins maybe all three00:30:41
because when the system built to defend00:30:43
starts to misfire the result isn't00:30:45
protection it's a stroke. They said00:30:48
right there I mean this is tough to00:30:50
watch. This is not easy to watch when00:30:52
you see the these are athletes. They're00:30:55
running all day. They're exercising all00:30:56
day. They're supposed to be the00:30:58
healthiest ones and then this happens to00:31:00
them.00:31:01
>> Yeah. Have we have we either00:31:03
investigated or started something to00:31:06
find out how many of these were tied to00:31:10
the vaccine or because even the Bills uh00:31:13
uh uh linebacker I believe who was00:31:16
interviewed afterwards quarterback or00:31:17
linebacker I don't know what he was but00:31:19
he he played defense when they00:31:21
interviewed Demar Hamlin and they said00:31:22
what happened he says I know what it is00:31:24
but I can't say it. I don't know if00:31:25
you've seen that interview.00:31:26
>> No I haven't. >> Yeah they interviewed him and they said00:31:29
do you know what it is? He says, "I do00:31:30
know what it is, but I just don't want00:31:32
to talk about it. I don't want to say00:31:34
anything." It was like this secret00:31:36
sauce. You can't say what happened here.00:31:39
Are we ever going to Or maybe we already00:31:41
have. Have we found out if there was a00:31:43
link between the vaccine and folks00:31:46
passing out, specifically athletes00:31:47
passing out?00:31:48
>> So, there's um an NIH study that's00:31:50
looking at this. But here's the thing.00:31:52
These athletes were at a risk of dying00:31:56
of COVID of exactly zero. No athlete has00:32:01
ever died of COVID. Okay? No00:32:03
professional athlete. And so the00:32:06
ultimate failure of the medical00:32:09
establishment was failing to recognize a00:32:13
10,000fold risk difference between a00:32:16
young person and an older person. And so00:32:18
they did again this Fouchy HIV mindset.00:32:22
Everybody is at risk almost as if00:32:24
everybody is at equal risk. And as a00:32:27
result, you know, they had all this00:32:29
forced uh all these forced vaccination00:32:33
requirements for young healthy athletes.00:32:36
A lot of NFL players were angry about00:32:38
the COVID vaccine requirement. But you00:32:40
know how the NFL is with their00:32:42
>> players they tight control of of that00:32:46
messaging. I mean, they even control the00:32:48
the news coverage of the NFL, right? The00:32:51
NFL network is owned by the NFL, right?00:32:53
So, it's we're both NFL fans, but I00:32:56
mean, there is this this side of the NFL00:32:58
that was ugly when you saw this vaccine00:33:00
requirement that the players did not00:33:02
want. I mean, the African-American00:33:04
community was has been more suspicious00:33:06
of the medical establishment than the00:33:09
non-affrican-american for good reasons00:33:11
because of the Tuskegee experiment, this00:33:13
cruel and barbaric experiment on black00:33:15
people that ran into the early 70s. And00:33:19
so there's this general skepticism and00:33:22
you saw this hesitancy in that community00:33:25
and you know when they they're trying to00:33:26
blame uh Republicans for being the00:33:31
unvaccinated and they're basically00:33:32
making it sound like it's Trump00:33:33
supporter. Number one unvaccinated00:33:35
community by a percentage was00:33:37
African-Americans.00:33:40
>> Yeah. And by the way, good for them for00:33:42
doing that. They they were skeptical00:33:43
about it. But that was the interview. If00:33:45
you want to pull it up that Michael00:33:46
Strahan is interviewing Demar Hamlin on00:33:48
ABC and here's what he had to say. Go00:33:50
for it. >> You're 24.00:33:52
Peak physical condition could run00:33:55
circles around me right now.00:33:59
How did doctor describe what happened to00:34:01
you?00:34:04
Um00:34:13
um that's something I want to stay away00:34:15
from.00:34:16
>> I know from my experience the NFL they00:34:19
do more tests than anything. And in the00:34:22
course of you having your physicals, did00:34:25
anybody ever come back with any say you00:34:26
had a heart issue or anything that was00:34:29
abnormal?00:34:30
>> Uh honestly, no. Um, I've always been a00:34:33
a healthy, young, fit, energetic, uh,00:34:38
you know, human being, let alone00:34:39
athlete. Um, so it it was something that00:34:42
was just that we we still processing and00:34:44
I'm still talking through with my00:34:46
doctors just to see what everything was.00:34:49
>> You can tell he doesn't want to talk00:34:50
about it.00:34:51
>> Yeah, you can tell.00:34:52
>> He just he went through it. He thought00:34:53
about it. He's like, I'm probably not00:34:54
going to get the contract. They're00:34:55
probably going to kick me out. Am I00:34:57
going to get sponsorship money? Nike is00:34:58
not going to give me a contract. just00:35:00
keep it to yourself. Like I wonder00:35:02
literally in that 10-second pause that00:35:04
he had that ABC showed,00:35:07
>> what was he thinking about?00:35:08
>> Yeah. Even doctors when asked publicly00:35:11
and on television, do you think this00:35:13
could have been a vaccine related00:35:16
complication? They were afraid because00:35:19
the censorship machine and was alive and00:35:22
active and they knew all heaven and00:35:24
earth could come down on them for even00:35:26
suggesting it as a possibility. And that00:35:30
is how draconian00:35:32
uh our um our medical establishment has00:35:35
become now where you were not allowed.00:35:37
This is like Chinese Communist Party00:35:39
kind of stuff, right? If you disagree,00:35:41
you could just disappear, right?00:35:43
>> Yeah. Well, look, I mean, I remember the00:35:45
movie, the concussion movie00:35:47
that uh00:35:48
>> Will Smith did. Was the movie called00:35:50
Concussion? It could have been called00:35:52
Concussion. And they were not fans of00:35:54
that movie. They they And by the way,00:35:56
this movie was one of the reasons why my00:35:58
wife00:35:59
>> doesn't want one of our boys to play00:36:01
football. So, this movie actually00:36:03
impacted and they ran a survey, a number00:36:06
that said parents uh of kids who make00:36:10
over $150,00000:36:12
a year have a higher likelihood of not00:36:16
pre not allowing their kids to play00:36:18
football than parents who make less than00:36:20
$150,000. So, there's a link between,00:36:23
yeah, we're not going to be touching00:36:24
that sport because it can have some00:36:25
brain damage on you and stepping away00:36:27
from it. So I I I just when I see this00:36:29
kind of stuff, to me, closure is00:36:31
important. And I think you guys got00:36:33
three years cuz honestly, we don't know00:36:34
who's going to be the next president of00:36:35
the United States. There there's a lot00:36:37
of people that are overly confident. Oh00:36:38
yeah, it's going to be J. D. Vance, it's00:36:40
done. It's going to be JD Vance, Rubio00:36:42
Ticket, and this is going to go 12 years00:36:44
and it's going to be fantastic. And then00:36:47
you go to Kshi and you look at you know00:36:50
2028 candidates and Nuome and um00:36:54
and JD are neck and neck and it's not00:36:57
like it's a GI. So the reason why I'm00:36:59
saying this I think if the in next three00:37:01
years you guys don't get this we may00:37:03
never come back and touch this ever00:37:05
again. I think this will be something00:37:06
that will be just wiped you know it'll00:37:08
be another one of those things that will00:37:10
be conspiracy you know John F. Kennedy00:37:13
assassination, MLK assassination, 9/11,00:37:16
they don't ever want to tell us. And the00:37:17
trust in the US government will be low00:37:19
again. I think you guys can increase the00:37:21
level of trust in the US government and00:37:24
get it skyrocket in a ways if ne if00:37:26
we've never we've never had if certain00:37:29
things just get boom boom boom boom boom00:37:32
boom. You know what? I trust the00:37:35
investigation FBI did. No, James Comey00:37:37
and Leticia James case dropped. Ah, give00:37:40
me a flipping break. Yeah, you know,00:37:42
Fouchy, boom. No, nothing's going to00:37:44
happen. Oh, yeah. Boom. Nothing's going00:37:46
to happen. The average dayto-day voter,00:37:49
I'm not talking about the one that00:37:50
follows everything closely. The average00:37:52
dayto-day voter is not thinking high00:37:55
high level stuff. It co impacted them.00:37:59
They're just like, listen, can you just00:38:00
tell me what happened here so I can move00:38:01
on. Anyways, that's enough on CO. Let's00:38:04
go to the next story I'm going to talk00:38:05
to you about because we can talk CO all00:38:06
day long.00:38:07
>> We're talking about the primary bile00:38:08
duct now.00:38:09
>> Yeah. Yeah, for sure. No, you said two00:38:11
things, right? You said food supply was00:38:13
one thing your friends wanted you to get00:38:15
to the bottom of and cure for diseases.00:38:17
Let's talk about cancer.00:38:18
>> Yeah. >> Is it profitable to find a cure to00:38:21
cancer? Isn't it more profitable to not00:38:24
find a cure for cancer?00:38:26
It's not profitable if you take an00:38:29
existing treatment and repurpose it00:38:33
because there's just not a lot of money00:38:35
in in in in those generics drugs that00:38:38
have been out and there's many companies00:38:40
that make them now. But if you make a00:38:43
drug denovo and you are curing a00:38:46
disease, the market exclusivity,00:38:49
the marketing rights, uh it does make it00:38:53
profitable and you're seeing huge00:38:54
profits. So you the most the fastest00:38:57
area of healthcare spending is drug00:38:59
spending and the fastest area of drug00:39:01
spending are these drugs called00:39:03
biologics. They're complicated molecules00:39:07
and they're they're the complexity stems00:39:09
from them being derived from cells. You00:39:12
don't just make them in a chemistry lab.00:39:15
They they they are derived from a a cell00:39:18
line.00:39:20
Well, there are generic versions of00:39:23
those expensive medications, but the FDA00:39:25
has set up so much red tape that00:39:27
companies are not pursuing those generic00:39:30
versions. So, we cut that red tape. We00:39:32
cut the research and development cost in00:39:34
half. These drugs are amazing. Um, we're00:39:37
also issuing these priority vouchers for00:39:40
a priority review. So if if your company00:39:44
is making a product that's in line with00:39:47
our national priorities, that is00:39:49
domesticating manufacturing, meeting an00:39:52
unmet public health need, and the00:39:54
president's mission to make medications00:39:56
affordable by lowering drug prices, uh00:39:59
as you saw with the most favored nation00:40:01
status or MFN pricing, which means we00:40:04
get the lowest price of the developed00:40:06
world. In the United States, we're the00:40:07
largest purchasers of drugs. We deserved00:40:10
the best price. That's been the00:40:11
president's strong position. And that's00:40:13
why you're seeing certain medications00:40:15
come down now from $243 to 10 bucks. You00:40:19
just saw the GLP1s come down from $1,30000:40:23
in the announcement to a $50 co-pay or00:40:26
$150 for the first couple months.00:40:29
Massive. We're not talking about two one00:40:30
or two% stuff. We're talking about00:40:33
massive reductions. Well, one of the00:40:35
vouchers we um issued was for00:40:39
this medication for cancer that for00:40:42
certain types of rectal cancer shrinks00:40:44
the tumor into nothing eliminates melts00:40:47
away00:40:48
if that technology is out there and00:40:51
people are candidates what are we doing00:40:52
wait what are we waiting for I mean00:40:54
obvious reason00:40:56
obvious reason I mean why why would they00:41:00
release it so think about you don't00:41:02
think00:41:04
you you don't think some of these00:41:05
companies have the cure for cancer Think00:41:08
think about if00:41:10
how many smart researchers we have. So00:41:13
somebody all of a sudden comes up and00:41:14
says guys we got this00:41:17
cure for cancer. This can help it and00:41:19
let me show you here's what it looks00:41:20
like. Now the guy is going to be sitting00:41:23
there saying all right we released this.00:41:27
Show us our charts. How much money do we00:41:29
make off cancer every year? 38%.00:41:33
Which drugs what chemo? what you know00:41:35
medicine is tied to this 38% of our00:41:38
topline revenue. How much would this be?00:41:40
This would be 6% of our topline revenue.00:41:43
So you want me to release a drug that's00:41:45
going to inject our topline revenue by00:41:48
6% but get rid of 38%. Yeah, guys, let's00:41:52
take our time with this one. Keep your00:41:53
research. >> I see what you're saying. are saying.00:41:55
You're saying the medical industrial00:41:57
complex is making so much money off the00:42:00
current way in which it it functions00:42:03
that if you come up with something00:42:04
that's going to just eliminate diseases00:42:06
that they can't poke and prod you and00:42:09
you know overmedate you for and operate00:42:12
on you for that. That is such a threat00:42:16
to the business model that there's a00:42:18
machine that wants to stop it. So, I00:42:20
understand why people00:42:22
are cynical because the medical00:42:24
industrial complex has no incentive00:42:27
really to move in the right direction.00:42:29
They they're profiting from sickness.00:42:31
But I will say I don't personally think00:42:35
it's that intentional. I think the00:42:36
pharmaceutical companies get a a a00:42:41
pot of gold if they can make a leap in00:42:46
advancing uh a treatment. So, um this00:42:51
medication for example that melts away00:42:54
certain rectal cancers and other GI00:42:56
cancers, we're giving it a priority re00:42:58
review. If the review goes well, and I00:43:01
expect it probably will, it's going to00:43:03
be on the market and you're going to00:43:04
start seeing operations averted, people00:43:08
no longer sitting in the chemo chairs,00:43:10
not getting radiation therapy. Some of00:43:12
this stuff, by the way, doesn't work00:43:14
very well for certain cancers, depending00:43:16
on the type and the treatment. And so, I00:43:19
do think you're going to I I do still00:43:21
think there's an incentive to create00:43:23
some powerful treatments. a type 100:43:25
diabetes treatment. I'd like to see a a00:43:27
a meaningful treatment or cure for type00:43:29
1 diabetes in this administration.00:43:32
There's a potentially promising00:43:34
treatment that we are tracking so00:43:36
closely. And here's how we do it. I00:43:39
personally go to the front lines of the00:43:41
FDA and meet with the scientific00:43:43
reviewers one-on-one.00:43:45
It's got to be one-on-one or you're not00:43:46
getting the full story, right? And I ask00:43:48
them, "Are you seeing anything that00:43:50
looks amazing? something that gives you00:43:53
chills up your spine because it could be00:43:55
such a gamecher.00:43:57
>> You're asking that question. I ask that00:43:59
question reviewers00:44:00
>> and and you know most of the time they00:44:02
say no nothing really that much of a00:44:05
game changer but then we'll find a00:44:07
diamond in the rough00:44:08
>> and one of those was this treatment for00:44:10
diabetes where um I don't want to get00:44:14
too much into it but it it is looks00:44:16
amazing and uh there's another treatment00:44:19
for another condition there is and and00:44:21
we're going proactively so if one of the00:44:23
reviewers says you know this early00:44:26
result this data looks too good to be00:44:28
true. Then we'll call the company, send00:44:31
us more data. Forget about the00:44:33
application and the margins and the font00:44:35
and the, you know, all the dumb00:44:36
requirements government says. Just send00:44:39
us the data and we'll look at it and00:44:41
we'll issue these vouchers to get a00:44:42
decision out in weeks instead of, you00:44:44
know, a year, years. So uh there's a for00:44:48
example about a month ago an article00:44:51
came out in our top journal the New00:44:53
England Journal of Medicine for a type00:44:55
of childhood deafness a form of00:44:59
congenital deafness that's about maybe 100:45:02
to 3% of kids with congenital deafness00:45:05
and they gave them a gene therapy00:45:07
delivered through a little device that00:45:09
restored normal hearing to kids with00:45:12
congenital deafness. They got normal00:45:14
hearing and three out of 12 kids and00:45:16
seven out of 12 got improvement in00:45:18
hearing. What are we waiting for, right?00:45:21
When you see that the kid is deaf and00:45:24
and it had a impeccable safety profile.00:45:27
So we contacted that company days from00:45:30
that data being published. We are not in00:45:33
a receive only mode. We're not a stingy00:45:36
librarian uh anymore at the FDA. We're00:45:39
proactive. So, we're going out there and00:45:41
you're you're seeing00:45:43
powerful treatments for some forms of00:45:44
blindness, deafness, pediatric00:45:46
conditions, rare diseases, cancers, and00:45:48
we're going to keep going. This is an00:45:50
entirely new approach, and I think we're00:45:52
going to deliver more cures and00:45:53
meaningful treatments for the American00:45:54
public in this administration. My00:45:56
predecessor in the Biden administration00:45:59
said his number one priority as head of00:46:02
the FDA was fighting misinformation.00:46:05
Well, our number one priority is not00:46:07
censoring Americans. It's delivering00:46:08
more cures and powerful treatments.00:46:11
>> Well, that that number one priority is00:46:13
fighting disinformation matches up with00:46:15
what world uh economic forum I believe00:46:18
said at Davos that number one was on00:46:19
that list. Rob, is that is that pretty00:46:21
accurate that uh they said the number00:46:23
one risk? So, they're aligned. I'm not00:46:24
surprised that they're saying that.00:46:26
Talking about the uh you know coming up00:46:28
with certain medicines and competing.00:46:31
One day, three years ago, two years ago,00:46:33
we decided to go a little bit deeper on00:46:34
the patent laws when it comes down to00:46:36
medicine. And if I come out with a new,00:46:39
you know, this is specifically for00:46:40
pricing with drugs, how expensive it is,00:46:43
and you would see patents in medicine is00:46:45
roughly 20 years. Of course, after the00:46:48
amount of time it takes to go through00:46:49
its testing and approval, it's a long00:46:52
lengthy process. They generally have 700:46:54
to 12 years where they have a monopoly00:46:56
on this product. But even then, so once00:46:59
the 20 years comes by, these great00:47:00
lawyers know how to add an additional 1800:47:02
years of extension. So the number was00:47:04
roughly 38 years that they end up having00:47:06
give or take. That's a long time. And00:47:08
then you would see the price point00:47:10
charging $5,90000:47:13
and then the day the patent's done with00:47:15
two years later it's $72 or $88. That00:47:20
drop off.00:47:22
You don't want to flirt with free market00:47:24
because that's competition. We have to00:47:26
have these guys have the incentive. If00:47:27
you remove the incentive, I think it's00:47:29
going to be catastrophic. But maybe we00:47:31
can change the patent laws. Maybe we can00:47:35
open up the patent laws to say if you00:47:38
came up with it, you know, allow others00:47:41
to sell it as well and anybody else that00:47:44
sells it for 10 years, they have to pay00:47:45
you 50% of the profits. Maybe we can get00:47:48
creative with the patent law. So I, the00:47:51
inventor, the creator of the patent00:47:53
says, "You know what, Doc? I think00:47:56
Marty, you're being fair with me. I'm00:47:58
willing to entertain this." and you00:47:59
bring the lawyers and say, "Guys, we'll00:48:01
give you five years from the day it gets00:48:04
approved. Forget the 20-year number. You00:48:06
got five years ahead of the game. But00:48:08
after 5 years, no extension, give it up00:48:10
to anybody else. Anything they sell for00:48:12
the next 10 years, 50% profit comes to00:48:14
you." So, I'm going from my00:48:16
distribution, one company, and now all00:48:18
of a sudden, this drug is being able to00:48:19
be sold by Johnson, you know, uh, uh,00:48:22
you know, what do you call it? Fizer,00:48:24
everybody else. They did 2.2 billion00:48:26
last year. profit was 600 million.00:48:28
Here's a 300 million auto check. I'm00:48:30
happy with it. I'm using their so their00:48:32
salespeople become my what can we do to00:48:35
creatively work on these patent laws00:48:37
that we have with medicine.00:48:38
>> We have to fix the patent laws and it's00:48:40
even worse than how you're describing.00:48:42
What happens is a company that gets a00:48:44
patent and gets a drug approved then um00:48:48
will have dozens or hundreds of patents00:48:51
filed around that drug. And you might00:48:54
say, how are you fi filing more than one00:48:56
patent for a drug? Well, they modify the00:49:00
patent just a tiny bit or they add one00:49:02
little molecule on a complex chain of of00:49:05
molecules and you know now it's a00:49:08
different drug. And so they just try to00:49:10
bumrush like blitz the patent office00:49:13
with so many applications so that when a00:49:15
company comes along after the patent00:49:17
expires and makes a generic,00:49:19
the branded company will sue that00:49:22
generic company saying, "Oh, you're00:49:23
violating our patent." Well, you got a00:49:26
hundred of them. And so it creates legal00:49:30
obstacles for a generic to come to00:49:32
market because it just creates the00:49:34
opportunity for more lawsuits.00:49:36
>> Do you think do you think there's something there? Like, do you think you00:49:38
guys can go in in 3 years, be able to00:49:41
change the patent laws and open it up00:49:43
for them? >> I wish we at the FDA could do that. It's00:49:47
really a congressional uh fix.00:49:50
>> Wow. So, that's that means and what do00:49:53
you need on the congressional side? And00:49:55
how much money are these guys cuz Rob,00:49:57
can you pull up how much the I think00:49:59
the, you know, medicine the medical00:50:01
sector of lobbying is a 800. It's one of00:50:04
the biggest ones if not the biggest one,00:50:06
right? on how much they're lobbying uh00:50:08
their politicians. If you put them up00:50:09
there, they're up there in the top00:50:10
three. Definitely top three.00:50:12
>> Ran Paul has a bill on patent reform and00:50:14
there's a couple others. It's a00:50:16
bipartisan. I hope I mean it's00:50:19
desperately needed.00:50:21
>> 2020 they spent $710 million$1 1300:50:24
million.00:50:26
2020 you're going up against these guys.00:50:29
>> We are.00:50:30
>> What is the likelihood of being so for00:50:32
us to change? So Ran Paul has a bill.00:50:35
Yeah. Have you seen this be something00:50:37
that the president or um00:50:41
uh uh RFK00:50:44
Jr. has entertained driving and pushing?00:50:47
Because I haven't heard a lot about00:50:49
this. Is this something that's at the00:50:51
top of mind or not really? you know,00:50:53
because it deals with patent law and00:50:56
it's outside of the jurisdiction of the00:50:57
FDA,00:50:59
the signals that we have given her that,00:51:01
hey, this needs to be fixed, but it's00:51:04
really something that involves members00:51:06
of Congress fixing. So, um, I know00:51:10
there's support for patent reform, um,00:51:13
but I don't know where where it stands00:51:15
at from my vantage point at the FDA.00:51:18
>> Yeah, it's called $713 million of00:51:21
federal. I mean, that's amazing the00:51:23
amount of, you know, and imagine how00:51:25
many of these guys are getting funded00:51:27
for their re-election. Uh, you know, how00:51:30
much money they're getting to say,00:51:31
"Look, you better not entertain this00:51:32
one. You better not touch this one." So,00:51:35
okay. Well, I asked that question00:51:37
because one, cost, you know, the average00:51:40
person can't afford, you know, certain00:51:43
things and there's cures for them or00:51:45
their kids. It goes back to the movie, I00:51:47
don't know if you've seen the movie John00:51:48
Q with Denzel Washington. And if you've00:51:51
never seen it,00:51:52
>> that is a movie you must watch because00:51:54
it's about your business.00:51:55
>> John Q.00:51:56
>> John Q. >> Concussion. And thank you Dr. Fouchy for00:51:58
all.00:51:59
>> I'm going to do I'm going to do I'm00:52:00
going to do Thank you, Dr. Fouchy. But00:52:02
this is John Q with Denzel Washington.00:52:04
It is a very very emotional movie that00:52:09
was shot 23 years ago. And there's a00:52:12
famous scene in the movie where he says00:52:16
uh my son buries me. I don't bury my00:52:20
son.00:52:22
>> It is a chilling scene when he talks00:52:24
about it, but a lot of people are going00:52:26
through some of the stuff that they00:52:27
can't afford to, you know, to pay for.00:52:31
Okay, so next thing to talk about when I00:52:34
was coming up, I wanted to be a00:52:36
bodybuilder. I wanted to be Mr. Olympia.00:52:37
I said, you know, one day I'm going to00:52:38
be Mr. Olympia. And the average height00:52:41
for Mr. Olympia is 5'8, 5'9, 510. I'm00:52:44
6'3 and a half, 6'4. So for me, you00:52:48
know, I didn't want to be 400 lb off00:52:50
season. And there was this book that00:52:52
everybody had to read to learn about00:52:54
steroids. It's called the steroids00:52:56
bible. And it was multiple, you know,00:52:58
first one, second one, third one, all of00:53:01
them you would go through and everything00:53:03
about testosterone was bad that you00:53:05
would read about. And then today, for00:53:08
the first time ever, back in the days,00:53:11
nobody would talk about that that guy's00:53:13
on steroids. No, he's natural, you know.00:53:15
And I think a couple of the first people00:53:17
that came out and talked about it,00:53:18
Arnold may have spoken about it. And a00:53:21
guy named Bill Phillips made it very00:53:23
open with this magazine called Muscle00:53:24
Media 2000, which was hands down the00:53:26
best uh magazine in bodybuilding. And he00:53:30
he wrote a book called Body of Life. He00:53:32
had a company called EAS. But today,00:53:36
guys will openly say, "Yeah, I'm on TRT.00:53:39
Yeah, I'm on HRT."00:53:41
What what what has happened where what00:53:44
can you tell us from the perspective of00:53:47
steroids today? What does the average00:53:50
person not know about? Have we found I00:53:53
read a book about 12 years ago called00:53:55
ageless man where they were testing TRT00:53:58
and steroids with you know different00:54:00
things to say you know if the TRT if the00:54:03
testosterone level is higher your heart00:54:05
is actually doing better. What have we00:54:07
learned about steroids? It's a00:54:09
fascinating subject and00:54:12
I think you and I grew up around the00:54:13
same time and steroids were seen as this00:54:16
way to get buffed up and people do feel00:54:19
better on steroids. Steroids are a00:54:21
natural chemical. When you take00:54:22
exogenous steroids, there are some00:54:25
short-term benefits, but there's00:54:27
long-term harms and that's why the00:54:28
medical community warned against people00:54:31
buffing up on steroids just to look00:54:34
better and feel better in the immediate00:54:35
short term. And then in the Olympics in00:54:38
the 1980s or so, people were taking00:54:41
testosterone as a performance enhancer00:54:46
and all heaven and earth came down on00:54:48
those people and that resulted in00:54:51
testosterone getting scheduled as a00:54:53
controlled substance. But the more that00:54:56
we've learned about the human body, the00:54:59
more we've realized now that there can00:55:01
be a role for testosterone replacement00:55:04
in men when they stop producing a high00:55:07
level of testosterone. And it provides00:55:09
some of the benefits of testosterone,00:55:11
including muscle mass. Now, this hasn't00:55:14
been proven yet as an outcome of taking00:55:18
testosterone replacement therapy, but do00:55:20
you know what the number one predictor00:55:22
of longevity is? M00:55:24
>> muscle mass.00:55:25
>> Now, it may be a function of the fact00:55:27
those people are more active, but if you00:55:29
look at muscle mass, and we can measure00:55:31
it on a CAT scan, it is the number one00:55:32
predictor of longevity.00:55:35
>> So, uh we are having uh we're I think00:55:39
we're live here, right? When we chat,00:55:40
we're having I think it's uh December00:55:43
13th, we're having an a forum at the FDA00:55:47
on testosterone replacement therapy in00:55:49
men's health because it has not gotten00:55:51
the attention it deserves. Some men are00:55:54
good candidates, but there's this stigma00:55:57
that it's maybe wrong or maybe has, you00:56:00
know, short-term benefit, but long-term00:56:02
harm. No, the more we learn about00:56:04
testosterone, the more we're learning00:56:06
that, say, lowd dose testosterone can00:56:08
have long-term health benefits. So, I'm00:56:10
not here to promote a product. I'm a00:56:12
regulator, but this has not gotten the00:56:14
attention it deserves. We have a guy,00:56:16
Brian Christine, who's a men's health uh00:56:18
expert, and he's going to be leading00:56:20
this. And you know, we just did this big00:56:22
announcement on hormone replacement00:56:24
therapy for women. I don't know if you00:56:26
saw that.00:56:28
>> We got great coverage on it. And it I'm00:56:30
glad it did because this represents00:56:34
the biggest screw up of modern medicine,00:56:37
the demonization of hormone replacement00:56:40
therapy for post-menopausal women. And00:56:44
you know, it came out of dogma. It came00:56:46
out of a Fouchylike figure at the NIH in00:56:50
the year 2002 about 23 years ago who00:56:53
made this decree and he had a study that00:56:56
he pointed to even though the study was00:56:59
uh misinterpreted and you actually00:57:02
looked at the details of the study that00:57:04
when it first came out, it did not show00:57:06
an increase in breast cancer that was00:57:08
statistically significant. Yet he said00:57:10
it causes breast cancer. No subsequent00:57:13
study has found that it increases breast00:57:15
cancer mortality, but women were scared00:57:17
out of this treatment. It's a00:57:18
life-changing, lifesaving, life00:57:21
extending treatment for many women when00:57:23
their body stops making estrogen between00:57:26
45 and 55 years of age. They replace it00:57:29
with estrogen replacement plus or minus00:57:32
progesterone, and they feel better and00:57:36
live longer. It not only alleviates the00:57:39
short-term symptoms of menopause, that00:57:41
is, and I say short-term, that it can00:57:43
last eight years uh on average. We were00:57:46
told in medical school, h some women00:57:48
have symptoms of menopause, but they're00:57:50
usually mild and they're and they're00:57:51
just last a couple years. In other00:57:53
words, just tough it up. These women are00:57:54
complaining, right? That was basically00:57:56
the male dominated medical00:57:57
establishment. Now, we know symptoms00:57:59
last eight years on average. that 8000:58:02
plus% of women have symptoms and for00:58:04
most the symptoms are severe where now00:58:08
they're more likely to get an00:58:09
anti-depressant when they come in for00:58:10
their mood swings than they are estrogen00:58:13
which can alleviate these symptoms of00:58:15
the hot flashes, night sweats, mood00:58:17
swings, uh weight gain. I mean marriages00:58:21
have been saved by hormone replacement00:58:23
therapy in post-menopausal women.00:58:25
>> In what way? Uh well for example um one00:58:28
patient described we just did a podcast00:58:30
with some experts in this field and they00:58:32
said the patient came in and said every00:58:34
time I had sex with my husband it felt00:58:36
like razor blades in my vagina because00:58:39
there's dryness associated with the00:58:41
menopausal changes and so it makes it00:58:44
can make sexual activity painful00:58:49
and these symptoms were alleviated with00:58:51
hormone replacement therapy. So, not00:58:54
only are the short-term benefits00:58:56
remarkable, but there are massively00:59:00
underappreciated00:59:02
long-term health benefits that are00:59:04
profound. And let me just mention a00:59:06
couple. Lowering the risk of fatal heart00:59:08
attacks by 25 to 50%. That's the number00:59:11
one cause of death in women. I mean, on00:59:13
a,00:59:15
you know, on a population level,00:59:17
>> 25 to 50%.00:59:18
>> Yeah. I mean this is top studies in the00:59:21
cir in the journal circulation with one00:59:23
of the top cardiology journals just two00:59:25
years ago00:59:27
and it prevents osteoporosis like 90%00:59:30
effective in reducing osteoporosis. It00:59:33
reduces the risk of a bone fracture00:59:35
later in life. A woman's you know if a00:59:37
woman makes it to 80 there's like a one00:59:39
in three chance she's going to have a00:59:41
hip fracture00:59:42
>> and that can be the cause of death in00:59:44
many women because it leads to00:59:45
disability and surgery and then00:59:47
complications. Well, the root issue is00:59:50
the bones were weak because the estrogen00:59:52
level dropped off at menopause and it's00:59:55
preventable with hormone replacement00:59:57
therapy. It also reduces cognitive01:00:00
decline later in life for a woman. So01:00:03
the benefits are so profound01:00:06
that there there by the way there may be01:00:08
no medication in the modern era with the01:00:10
exception of antibiotics and a few01:00:12
others that can improve the the health01:00:15
of women on a population level more than01:00:18
hormone replacement therapy for01:00:20
post-menopausal women if it started01:00:21
within 10 years of menopause. It's a key01:00:24
feature.01:00:25
>> So that means 60 because the study had a01:00:28
number 60 in it right? So starting 1001:00:31
years before 60. So you're saying01:00:33
starting when you're 50 years old.01:00:35
>> So give or take.01:00:36
>> Uh women experience menopause generally01:00:39
between the ages of 45 and 55. And so01:00:42
your body really should not be going01:00:44
without estrogen for more than several01:00:47
years because the the estrogen keeps the01:00:51
blood vessel wall healthy. So it's01:00:53
generally believed that if you start it01:00:55
more than 10 years after the onset of01:00:57
menopause or rule of thumb after age 6001:01:01
that the benefit is not there and the01:01:03
risk benefit ratio inverts and so01:01:05
doctors generally don't recommend it01:01:07
after age 60. But most doctors haven't01:01:09
recommended it at all because of the01:01:12
dogma from the NIH 23 years ago that it01:01:15
increases your risk of dying of breast01:01:16
cancer. Something that's never been01:01:18
found to be true in a clinical study.01:01:19
And is that the one that was released to01:01:21
the mainstream media first to kind of01:01:23
get some attention and then that's what01:01:25
caused everybody to think that's those01:01:26
two tied to each other?01:01:28
>> Yeah, it was very manipulative. They01:01:30
released it to the media without the01:01:32
data and then they re published the01:01:34
study a week later. When we looked at it01:01:36
after it was published, we said there's01:01:39
no statistically significant increase in01:01:41
>> Who benefited from that? Who benefited01:01:43
from that article?01:01:45
>> Individual careers in medicine were01:01:47
made. They were they were01:01:49
>> nobody financially like it wasn't like a01:01:51
big pharma company that benefited from01:01:53
this.01:01:54
>> No, this was the ego of people who set01:01:58
out I mean the lead the lead01:02:00
investigator of that study had said01:02:02
before we have to stop the HRT01:02:05
bandwagon. I mean he was on a mission.01:02:08
>> Yeah. So, and let's stay on this, you01:02:11
know, with with women, you know, young01:02:13
girls. When you pull up data and you01:02:15
say, okay, I hear people will say, you01:02:17
know, uh uh speaking to a doctor, we're01:02:19
at a soccer match and he says, yeah, you01:02:21
know, girls are having periods earlier01:02:23
than ever before. Why? Well, there's01:02:26
many different reasons. I said, you01:02:27
know, tell me the history about it. And01:02:28
then we pull up the history and it says,01:02:30
you know, in the in the late 1800s was01:02:33
16 17 years old and then early 1900s.01:02:36
Yeah. Right there. So from uh 15 to 1701:02:38
years old then it went to 12 1/2 to 1301:02:41
years old and it went even lower and01:02:43
lower and and today it's 11 point01:02:44
something years old. 11 yeah 11 years01:02:46
old and some even especially black and01:02:49
Hispanic girls being puberty uh01:02:51
beginning puberty signs at 8 or 9 years01:02:53
old with some early as 6 or seven years01:02:54
old. This the earliest and recorded01:02:56
history. Why is that?01:03:00
I think it's because of the number of01:03:03
exposures of substances and chemicals in01:03:06
the modern world that have estrogen-like01:03:08
binding properties. I mean, you can go01:03:10
to the river and test the water and01:03:14
you'll find that there are things in01:03:15
there with estrogen-like binding01:03:17
properties in the modern world, things01:03:18
that have never been formally studied,01:03:21
but we know it binds to the estrogen01:03:22
receptor partially, not entirely,01:03:24
partially. And this is a huge issue. I01:03:27
mean, you talk about existential01:03:29
threats, right, to the human race. Um,01:03:32
the age of puberty has been going down01:03:34
by a week and a half each year for01:03:37
roughly the last 30 years.01:03:39
>> Wow.01:03:40
>> Yeah. I mean, in Europe where they may01:03:43
not have some of these exposures,01:03:46
you still have women, girls going into01:03:48
puberty at age 14, sometimes 15. Um,01:03:53
something's going on and we have not01:03:55
paid attention to this. it's in the MAHA01:03:58
report that this is a priority for us to01:04:00
look at, but something's going on. And I01:04:03
remember in med school, we'd learn this,01:04:05
you know, they they teach it in two01:04:07
seconds, you know, just a flash line in01:04:09
the textbooks. And I remember that the01:04:12
instructor mentioned this. They were01:04:13
talking about puberty and the precocious01:04:16
puberty and other uh conditions. And01:04:19
they said, "The age of puberty is going01:04:20
down. It's now years earlier than it was01:04:23
a century ago." And then they moved on01:04:25
to the next topic in a in a in one01:04:27
breath. And I remember like, whoa, whoa,01:04:30
whoa, whoa. We're not talking. We're not01:04:32
going to pause and talk about this. And01:04:35
you have these issues in American01:04:37
medicine that live in these blind spots.01:04:41
And only intellectually curious people01:04:43
like yourself who ask about it prompts01:04:46
the medical establishment to look at01:04:47
these things. Because we have a medical01:04:49
system that's designed to play01:04:51
whack-a-ole with prescribing meds and01:04:54
operating on people. Prescribe, operate,01:04:56
prescribe, operate. And so you come in01:04:58
and we we've done this terrible thing to01:05:00
doctors in America where you come in and01:05:03
you get on the hamster wheel and you're01:05:05
told, "Here are your tools, prescribe01:05:07
and operate, and you can only work01:05:09
within the confines of your clinic, and01:05:11
we're going to measure you by your01:05:12
throughput." And so these doctors become01:05:14
these busy beavers just code billing,01:05:16
coding, writing notes, prescribing and01:05:19
operating. Billing, coding, writing01:05:21
notes, prescribing and operating. And01:05:23
you wonder why the burnout rates are01:05:24
higher than any other profession. Right?01:05:26
So we've got to stop and ask what are we01:05:28
doing?01:05:29
>> Yeah. And and so let's just say if I'm01:05:31
the establishment doctor representative01:05:35
and I say what's wrong with it starting01:05:37
earlier,01:05:39
how is that even a bad thing? Maybe it's01:05:41
a good thing that it's starting earlier.01:05:43
You know, maybe it's a, you know, they01:05:45
could make that argument to say, you01:05:47
know, if they start earlier, they get01:05:49
acclimated to it before they start the01:05:51
adult life and all this other stuff.01:05:53
What arguments have they made? Have you01:05:55
have you heard any arguments for saying01:05:57
that it's good that they're starting it01:05:58
earlier?01:05:59
>> I have not heard those arguments. I've01:06:02
not engaged in this debate. I mean, one01:06:04
thing that I've seen written about is01:06:07
women, girls becoming pregnant earlier01:06:10
than their body is prepared to to be01:06:14
pregnant. Um,01:06:17
I personally have my own uh personal01:06:19
views and that is that we are messing01:06:21
with God's creation. When you see women01:06:25
undergoing puberty earlier and earlier,01:06:28
um, >> do you think it what do you think about01:06:31
birth control pills?01:06:33
I mean, I don't I don't have a view on01:06:35
it.01:06:36
>> Yeah. Because I'm trying to see what's01:06:38
happened during that time that would01:06:41
change things. You know, the first01:06:43
smallox vaccine,01:06:46
you know, was given. Can you check to01:06:48
see Rob when was the first small was01:06:50
>> 1769?01:06:52
Yeah. 1796 in Europe and then it came to01:06:54
the United States. Dr. Benjamin01:06:57
Waterhouse was trying to recommend this01:06:59
to everybody and President John Adams01:07:02
was not into it. But then Jefferson01:07:04
Thomas Jefferson believed in these01:07:07
vaccines and started the national01:07:08
vaccination program.01:07:11
So could that have anything to do with01:07:13
it? Because again patterns. What did we01:07:15
introduce that we didn't have before01:07:17
that all of a sudden change things? I01:07:20
don't know when the first birth control01:07:21
was. Rob, can you pull up the Cuz you01:07:22
know, when you're when you're a kid01:07:24
nowadays, they'll say, "My girl has uh01:07:26
acne." Yeah, you know, let's give her01:07:28
some birth control pills. You know, my01:07:31
kid's going through this. Yeah, let's01:07:32
give her some birth control pills. But01:07:34
she's not sexually active. Let's just01:07:36
give her birth control pills. And then01:07:37
later on, you're seeing all these side01:07:38
effects. Uh and that was what early01:07:41
1900s the idea began. Margaret Sanger01:07:45
opens the first birth control clinic in01:07:47
US quickly shut down. 30s and 50s01:07:50
researches on homes and ovulation make01:07:52
the idea of a birth control pill01:07:53
scientifically possible. 5157 the01:07:56
development of the pill. Scientists Carl01:07:59
Gerasi synthesizes a key hormone uh01:08:02
enabling the creation of the pill and01:08:04
then 50s funding and activism markers01:08:06
Sanger and McCormick pushed the research01:08:08
towards forward with Dr. Gregory Pinkis01:08:11
and John Rock. The FDA approves the pill01:08:14
for menstrual disorders, not01:08:16
contraception. Women use it off label.01:08:18
That's 57. And then the first official01:08:21
contraceptive approval was May 9th,01:08:23
1960. The FDA officially approves01:08:28
innovate as the first oral contraceptive01:08:31
pill. And then birth control is01:08:34
legalized for married couples 65. Then01:08:37
legalized for unmarried women 72. And01:08:41
then you have all these other things01:08:42
that comes up, the IUDs and the which01:08:44
are horrible. uh the female condoms,01:08:47
implants, emergency contraception. Yeah,01:08:50
I'm I'm um01:08:52
Is there a study to look into? Is there01:08:54
somebody that's researching this even01:08:56
deeper that we can look into?01:08:58
>> Yeah, there are teams looking at why01:09:00
puberty is going down in age. It's01:09:01
interesting in that chronology that you01:09:03
went through which is fascinating. The01:09:06
early use was part of the eugenics01:09:09
movement which people don't realize was01:09:12
alive and well and dominant and state01:09:15
sanctioned in many states in the United01:09:17
States in the early 1900s. And it wasn't01:09:21
um it wasn't sort of judicious01:09:24
population control. It was poor people01:09:27
and people that were deemed you know it01:09:29
used to be that if you were poor it was01:09:30
assumed you were dumb. You were just not01:09:33
intelligent. And there was this sort of01:09:35
stereotyping.01:09:37
So there was an attempt to01:09:40
uh essentially reduce the population of01:09:43
minorities in the United States and01:09:45
people who were poor by giving them01:09:47
birth control, forced sterilization01:09:49
surgically and in other in other ways.01:09:52
And that was a a part of a massive01:09:55
campaign that even cons persisted in01:09:59
some states through I think the 50s. And01:10:01
it's a very dark chapter of the United01:10:03
States, but that that was the initial01:10:06
part that you said when it was shut down01:10:08
after its initial.01:10:09
>> You're talking about Margaret Sanger and01:10:10
Planned Parenthood and the history of01:10:12
her and01:10:13
>> yeah, >> you know what things you read about her,01:10:15
you think, you know, if you haven't read01:10:16
about you're like, "Oh, Planned01:10:17
Parenthood, what a sweetheart. She was01:10:18
probably a good and then later on you01:10:20
realize this woman was like not today's01:10:23
word of racism." She's actually right01:10:27
that he had heard of the eugenics01:10:29
movement. She argued that birth control01:10:31
would reduce the number of unfit people,01:10:34
right? >> That's her words. And improve the01:10:36
overall health of the human race.01:10:38
>> Right? This is the American eugenics01:10:41
movement. And this we're not we're like01:10:46
one living generation away. This is not01:10:48
like, you know, you know, the battle of01:10:50
Babylon.01:10:51
>> No, she died in ' 66 at 86. So it's not01:10:54
she and today folks defend Planned01:10:58
Parenthood as if it's the greatest thing01:11:01
for women. And what they don't realize01:11:03
is I don't know what percentage of the01:11:04
abortions are black women but a big01:11:07
percentage of them >> high01:11:08
>> high percentage of them. And you know,01:11:10
one of our guys here, Tom, calls it the01:11:12
black genocide because01:11:14
>> it imagine how many, you know, future01:11:17
presidents, entrepreneurs in the01:11:18
African-American community are no longer01:11:21
here because of what she did with01:11:23
Planned Parenthood, but god forbid you01:11:24
try to do anything with them. Any plans01:11:26
with these guys? Is there anything that01:11:29
anything we want to do, you guys want to01:11:30
do with Planned Parenthood?01:11:31
>> They are giving out a lot of puberty01:11:33
blockers.01:11:35
Um, so you know that that's not right.01:11:39
Some kid doesn't like going through01:11:42
puberty. I mean, puberty is stressful,01:11:44
right? I mean, let's be honest.01:11:46
Childhood is stressful. I mean, you01:11:48
know, the dynamics of kids interacting.01:11:52
And so a kid comes in doesn't want to go01:11:55
through puberty and we we as a medical01:11:57
field say, "Oh, just take these pills01:12:00
and we'll just defer it. Kick the can01:12:01
down the road and you can decide later01:12:03
what your gender is." It's not right.01:12:05
It's not right. I mean, you look at some01:12:08
of the indicators of the morality of our01:12:10
society and it's it's scary. Thank God.01:12:16
Thank God for President Trump. I mean,01:12:19
this can you imagine01:12:22
the alternative right now.01:12:23
>> Oh my god. I mean, if Kamla was01:12:25
president today, do you know what that01:12:27
would look like? I saw a video today,01:12:29
uh, man wins women's strongest, you01:12:33
know, competition in Texas. I don't know01:12:35
if you saw this or not. And the second01:12:37
place, who's a woman, walks off, looks01:12:40
at the guy, shakes her head, and just,01:12:44
you know, minds her own business. Right.01:12:46
Is that it, Rob? Yeah. Can you play that01:12:48
clip?01:12:49
[Applause]01:12:53
Look at that.01:13:00
>> So, male adult film actor Jasmine Booker01:13:03
just won the title for World's Strongest01:13:05
Woman in Arlington, Texas, denying01:13:06
female opponent Andrea Thompson her01:13:09
rightful place on the top of women's01:13:11
podium. These are the types of And by01:13:14
the way, this is in Texas out of all01:13:16
places. Now, of course, Texas is not01:13:18
approving this. It just so happens where01:13:19
the competition was held in Texas, you01:13:23
know, with with puberty blockers, with01:13:26
even the movement of transgender back in01:13:29
the days, like basic question for you.01:13:32
If I were to ask you this simple01:13:33
question because my my uh uh my boys one01:13:36
day come out and they start talking to01:13:38
me about01:13:40
someone in kid is gay. Okay. And what01:13:43
does that really mean? If I were to ask01:13:45
you right now, where did AIDS come from?01:13:46
What would you say?01:13:48
You know, and speaking of the film,01:13:50
thank you Dr. Fouchy. They explore a01:13:53
non-traditional nar narrative which has01:13:56
not gotten the attention it deserves.01:13:58
And that is that um it may very well01:14:00
have come from a lab in Africa.01:14:05
>> AIDS could have come from a lab in01:14:07
Africa. >> HIV.01:14:08
>> HIV. Okay. Um, you know, in in the state01:14:13
of New York couple years ago, a virus is01:14:16
spreading and I don't know if it was the01:14:18
governor that said this or whoever it01:14:21
was. It could have been the mayor, could01:14:22
have been the governor that came out and01:14:24
said, "Hey, specifically to gay men to01:14:28
maybe pump the brakes when it comes down01:14:31
to being uh was it the is that what it01:14:34
was?"01:14:35
>> Empox is what it was. maybe pump the01:14:38
brakes on being sexually active right01:14:40
now the next couple months. Yeah.01:14:42
>> Okay. Why would he say that?01:14:44
>> Why would he suggest that? Because if if01:14:47
AIDS and I remember the whole uh Anthony01:14:50
Fouchy uh what was the pill that they01:14:52
act at? Am I saying it correctly?01:14:55
>> ACT. Yeah. And uh01:15:00
I think it gets to a point that some01:15:01
people don't want to talk about what01:15:04
really is going on and kind of want to01:15:05
give the direction at a different place01:15:07
on what's causing this, you know, where01:15:09
maybe it's even some people's lifestyle01:15:12
on how people live. Is it healthy? Is it01:15:14
not healthy? This is a sensitive topic.01:15:17
Most people don't want to go to it.01:15:18
That's right.01:15:19
>> It's extremely01:15:20
>> difficult because who are you going to01:15:23
lose? Who's going to be not happy? we're01:15:25
already past this. But if we don't01:15:28
openly talk about this stuff, then you01:15:31
lose the argument with puberty blockers.01:15:34
Then you lose the argument with all the01:15:35
other things that's happening to kids01:15:36
and they're confused because we're like,01:15:39
well, no, I don't want to touch that01:15:42
story, Dallas Buyers Club, you know,01:15:45
Matthew McConna, what was really going01:15:47
on. And no, let's not touch that story01:15:50
because that's a little too01:15:51
controversial. Let's just kind of say it01:15:54
came from a lab. Let's just say it came01:15:55
from here.01:15:56
>> And then you're supposed to sit there01:15:59
and say, "Really?"01:16:00
>> Yeah.01:16:01
I don't know where HIV came from, but01:16:05
how many people have Lyme disease,01:16:07
including people we know?01:16:08
>> Mhm.01:16:09
>> Where does Where did Lyme disease come01:16:10
from? I can tell you with a high degree01:16:14
of probability it came from lab 257 on01:16:19
Plum Island just outside of Connecticut01:16:22
25 miles from Lime Connecticut where the01:16:25
first case was described. How h how do01:16:28
we know that? First of all, you can read01:16:30
the book Bitten and it's a great book.01:16:33
When the Nazi war criminal doctors were01:16:36
executed in Nuremberg,01:16:38
uh, at least one of them was spared and01:16:41
brought to the United States so that he01:16:44
could, you know, his mind could be used01:16:46
by the US military for so-called biod01:16:49
defense. And they put him on Plum01:16:52
Island. And he had said very openly that01:16:54
he believed an incredible form of01:16:57
bowarfare was infecting ticks. And that01:17:01
that's what Lyme disease is. Then it01:17:03
shows up 25 miles away. And by the way,01:17:06
that's not the only thing that showed up01:17:07
close by. They found um half uh rat half01:17:12
deer carcasses01:17:15
on uh uh what's it called on uh in the01:17:20
Hamptons? The last town.01:17:22
>> Monttok.01:17:23
>> Yeah, it showed washed up on Monttok.01:17:26
This is like in the '9s. What the hell's01:17:28
going on there? Again, a bunch of mad01:17:30
scientists doing things and we and all01:17:32
these people have Lyme disease. How many01:17:34
physicians know that it came from lab01:17:36
257 that Lyme disease came from?01:17:39
Approximately 1%, right? Because these01:17:42
are things we are we are never honest01:17:44
with ourselves. That just because you01:17:47
can do something doesn't mean you should01:17:48
do it. And sometimes we can cause more01:17:50
harm than we can good by messing with01:17:54
mother nature.01:17:57
>> Yeah. I agree. I I also I also think,01:18:00
you know, a part of this is,01:18:03
you know, pattern recognition. I'm from01:18:06
Iran. I'm Armenian. I'm a Syrian. You're01:18:10
Egyptian, right?01:18:11
>> I think you're, if I'm not mistaken,01:18:12
you're a Coptic uh Christian, right?01:18:15
Which, by the way, the story about the,01:18:17
you know, the the 21 Coptic Christians01:18:21
uh uh of them being held up and saying,01:18:24
"Hey, you better, you know, denounce01:18:27
your belief in Jesus." And they didn't01:18:30
do it. And we know the story on how that01:18:31
story ended up for them.01:18:33
>> Yeah. My aunt knew some of those kids.01:18:35
She has a program for poor kids in the01:18:38
garbage slums in Cairo. some of those01:18:40
kids uh came through her program, her01:18:43
school and training and then went out01:18:45
and got jobs. They would get jobs in01:18:47
Libya because there were there was money01:18:49
to be made. There were jobs there for01:18:50
the poor. Then they would send the money01:18:52
back to their impoverished families. So01:18:56
I have a bit of a personal connection01:18:57
with that story.01:18:59
>> Yeah. And and and tragic tragic story01:19:02
when you hear about this, right? But,01:19:04
you know, when it comes on to your your01:19:06
faith, what you believe in, what you've01:19:09
gone through, but I come over here, I01:19:11
see some of the stuff that's going on01:19:12
with health. You're sitting there01:19:13
saying, "This just doesn't make any01:19:14
sense." What why are you having a hard01:19:16
time explaining this? Like, they say,01:19:17
"Well, I if we look at pattern01:19:20
recognition, all right, where did AIDS01:19:23
come from?" Well, they came from01:19:24
monkeys. All right. So, is AIDS01:19:27
predominantly with straight men and01:19:30
women or is it more homosexuals? No,01:19:32
it's more on so then can we go a little01:19:34
bit deeper on this study to find out01:19:36
really what's going on and can we just01:19:37
say it instead of trying to make01:19:38
everybody happy? It's okay. Like we we01:19:40
all have certain things that we do, but01:19:42
we need to be educated about it and then01:19:44
instead of looking the the other way,01:19:46
whether it's the Lyme disease, whether01:19:48
it's this, whether it's COVID, I simply01:19:50
I think there are plenty of patterns,01:19:52
you know, uh politically, you know, what01:19:56
country you come from. If I want to get01:19:58
immigration to come in and I will look01:20:00
at and say which country sends us the01:20:02
best and the smartest. All right, let's01:20:04
keep getting more from here that comes01:20:06
in. Which one sends us the most that01:20:08
become criminals and they cause havoc in01:20:10
America? Let's pump the break with this01:20:12
here. Why? It's racist. No, it's called01:20:14
data. It's pattern recognition. It's not01:20:16
racist. A company hires from certain01:20:19
schools because they feel those schools01:20:22
raise better people. When I talked to uh01:20:25
uh uh Billy Bean from Moneyball and the01:20:28
movie Moneyball, I don't know if you've01:20:30
seen the movie. At this point, we're01:20:31
promoting so many movies today. I hope01:20:32
you realize we're making people money01:20:34
today. This is like a this has nothing01:20:36
to do with the FDA folks. Secretly, we01:20:38
work for WME Endeavor. We're promoting01:20:41
movies and actors. But in this movie, I01:20:43
interviewed this guy. I brought him01:20:44
three times, Billy Bean. And uh01:20:48
specifically, he came to three of my01:20:50
business conferences with one request.01:20:52
Please don't record. That's his only01:20:53
ask.01:20:54
>> And I said, "Great." F fascinating guy01:20:56
to have at the event.01:20:57
>> Yeah. >> I said, "What do you recruit for?"01:20:59
>> He said, "We recruit for upbringing, how01:21:01
your parents raised you,01:21:03
>> because if the kid is coachable, we can01:21:05
have an easier time training them and01:21:07
building them." Of course, physical01:21:08
abilities, how fast you run, your arm,01:21:11
and then you have the how-to skill set,01:21:13
and then, you know, but they have these01:21:15
patterns they recruit for. Is that01:21:16
racist? No. Why do they bring these01:21:20
Dodger focused on Japan right now?01:21:22
Dodgers probably has a headquarters in01:21:23
Japan. They're just like, "Who's the01:21:24
next show Otanu?" because their training01:21:26
routines are better. I just think if we01:21:29
go back to pure logic patterns to01:21:31
educate the American people and stop01:21:32
worrying about offending who, we'll make01:21:34
better health choices. But if we play01:21:36
politics, the people are like, "Stop01:21:39
with these politics. Just let me make a01:21:41
decision for myself with the research."01:21:43
>> Yeah. >> I think sometimes we're still playing a01:21:45
little bit of politics01:21:47
>> when it comes on to our health. What do01:21:48
you think about that?01:21:49
>> Yeah. It's funny. Um, Empox, you01:21:51
mentioned Empire, was called Monkey Pox,01:21:54
but there was a group of people at the01:21:56
CDC. I'm told it was Demetrius and those01:21:59
other guys that stormed out a few months01:22:01
ago, and they said, "Well, this, you01:22:03
know, this is uh an inappropriate term01:22:07
because um this could create a stigma."01:22:10
They wouldn't say it was a sexually01:22:12
transmitted infection for weeks. They01:22:15
wouldn't say that. they wouldn't be01:22:16
honest with the American people that it01:22:18
was a sexually transmitted infection.01:22:20
After a while, people figured it out and01:22:22
so they they said they, you know, they01:22:24
have to rename it EMPOX and there was a01:22:26
big effort to rename it EMPOX from01:22:28
monkey pox. Um, you know, this is the01:22:31
same CDC that has pregnant people and01:22:33
pregnant persons.01:22:34
>> It's out of control. It's like just talk01:22:36
to me. Rob, can you pull up this01:22:37
article? This is the article. I mean,01:22:39
you every no one's going to know his01:22:41
name, but everyone's going to know the01:22:42
face with the I just sent you a link,01:22:44
Rob, if you just want to put Yeah, there01:22:46
you go. I see what you're doing. So, if01:22:47
you see this from PBS, pbs.org,01:22:50
this came out three years ago. Do you01:22:53
remember that face? Go up a little bit01:22:54
so the audience can see it.01:22:55
>> Oh, yeah.01:22:56
>> Everybody remembers his face. We're01:22:57
supposed to trust him. No, that's the01:23:00
guy that we were supposed to trust cuz01:23:02
trust the science.01:23:03
>> He was part of the cover up.01:23:04
>> Of course he was.01:23:05
>> For the ch for the Chinese. So the World01:23:07
Health Organization chief advises men to01:23:09
reduce number of sexual partners to01:23:11
avoid monkey pox. So why'd you name it01:23:14
monkey pox? That's offensive. Are you01:23:17
saying that they had sex with a monkey01:23:18
and that's how it got started? No. Like01:23:21
just tell us the full story,01:23:23
>> you know, so we can improve our01:23:25
lifestyle and how we live. And if you ch01:23:28
like for example I I have friends that01:23:31
know not using a condom increases your01:23:34
chance of getting sexual transmitted01:23:35
diseases right having multiple01:23:39
sexual encounters with men who you don't01:23:42
know like they couldn't say that they01:23:44
couldn't say that was bad for you. It's01:23:47
that it's risky to have sex with01:23:50
multiple male individuals01:23:53
that you don't know.01:23:54
>> What's wrong with saying that?01:23:55
>> They couldn't say that. the CDC couldn't01:23:57
say that. Why can't they say that to01:23:59
because it's what? It's it's offensive.01:24:01
I have a friend that will never use a01:24:03
condom01:24:05
>> and he's like Pat and he has had so many01:24:07
one too many partners and he's paid a01:24:10
price for it. You know, he's had some01:24:12
things where you know in the military01:24:15
nobody in the military wanted to get01:24:16
ganorrhea because they used to they used01:24:18
to use this phrase dry rot. And I I01:24:20
don't know if you know the story of what01:24:21
they do when you get ganorrhea in the01:24:22
army. That's good. You don't know. But01:24:24
it's01:24:25
>> you would hear a guy screaming like01:24:26
you've never heard a guy scream01:24:28
>> because of what they had to do. And I01:24:30
won't get too visual.01:24:31
>> Please,01:24:32
>> I won't get too visual. But it's not a01:24:35
good situation what it would happen. The01:24:38
army and the doctor would tell him,01:24:40
"Here's how you got it." And guess what01:24:42
he would say? Still not going to use a01:24:43
condom, doc.01:24:44
>> So, but guess what? At least he knows01:24:47
the risk because he's being told what it01:24:48
is.01:24:49
>> This is the actual vector of01:24:50
transmission. multiple sexual encounters01:24:53
with men who you don't know. That was01:24:55
that was actually what they traced the01:24:58
transmission to and they couldn't say01:24:59
it. >> And you you remember the laws they01:25:01
changed because at one point if you were01:25:04
HIV positive and you had sex with01:25:05
somebody and you didn't tell them you're01:25:08
HIV positive. At one point it wasn't a01:25:11
crime. Then it became a felony and then01:25:15
they lowered it, I believe, to01:25:16
misdemeanor. I think the state of01:25:17
California did this. Rob, if you want to01:25:19
look this up so we can correct what I'm01:25:21
saying on this, but you have to say,01:25:23
hey, just so you know, before we have01:25:24
sex with each other, I'm you know, you01:25:26
would tell tell the partner and then01:25:28
great. So, there's that, you know, risk01:25:30
that the individual knows one of the01:25:32
states.01:25:33
Yeah. One of the states uh uh had this01:25:37
was it could have been California. Yeah.01:25:39
So, I I think it's more about uh just01:25:42
talk to us like adults.01:25:43
>> Yeah.01:25:44
>> Don't be politicians. Tell us what the01:25:46
issue is. Let us make a decision. Say it01:25:48
in a respectful way. Yes. States that01:25:50
modernize the law. These states have01:25:52
reduced the HIV related charges to01:25:54
misdemeanor. Now, unless intentional01:25:55
transmission is proven, California,01:25:58
Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, North01:25:59
Carolina, Jersey, Virginia, Washington,01:26:01
Illinois, Arkansas, partial. Kansas,01:26:04
partial. What is partial?01:26:06
Knowingly exposing someone without01:26:08
disclosures. Misdemeanor max 6 months.01:26:10
Intentionally general felony assault01:26:14
laws apply. This this kind of was01:26:16
brought up in the Charlie Shin01:26:18
documentary which we're promoting again01:26:20
because we're the executive producers.01:26:21
Charlie Shin documentary if you haven't01:26:23
seen it. This was asked01:26:25
>> when did you have unprotected sex with01:26:27
people when you about HIV and not tell01:26:28
them about it. He says no I told people01:26:30
and all of a sudden they knew the risk.01:26:32
Anyways has to do with health. So I had01:26:34
to put a quick plug in to that01:26:36
documentary. >> Got all the health topics covered today.01:26:39
>> I got all the health topics.01:26:41
>> What's left?01:26:42
>> Yeah. So the the one thing uh I I want01:26:44
to get to is with um the recent story of01:26:48
Tylenol when it came out with the ties01:26:50
to autism.01:26:51
>> So are you and are you and uh uh uh uh01:26:54
RFK Jr. on the same page01:26:58
>> when it comes down to01:27:00
the the potential01:27:03
ties correlation with those who took01:27:06
vaccines, the amount of vaccines kids01:27:08
were taking. because he always talks01:27:09
about the data. You know, back in 1972,01:27:12
you only took three vaccines and then01:27:13
nowadays, you know, the numbers are01:27:15
you're taking 72 then before the age of01:27:17
three and all these numbers that they01:27:19
talk about, it's a big number. Uh you01:27:21
can fact check me on disrupt to give the01:27:22
audience the exact number. Do you agree01:27:25
that there is a correlation with the01:27:27
amount of vaccines kids take to autism?01:27:29
>> I don't know what causes autism. I have01:27:31
ideas, but the01:27:34
announcement on and there's there01:27:36
there's some incredible ongoing01:27:37
research. This is a massive priority.01:27:39
It's been blown off. Nobody really has01:27:42
been funding research in this space even01:27:44
though it affects like one in 12 boys01:27:46
now in California. It was rare two01:27:49
generations ago. So, um this01:27:52
administration is trying to deliver for01:27:54
the parents who have kids with autism.01:27:57
And on the Tanel piece, you know, uh,01:28:01
part of the investigation was talking to01:28:04
a lot of people in this field. And one01:28:07
of the people that the folks on01:28:10
Secretary Kennedy's team and himself had01:28:12
spoken to was the dean of the Harvard01:28:15
School of Public Health.01:28:17
and he has said and I'm going to give01:28:20
you a direct quote there is a causal01:28:24
relationship between prenatal01:28:25
acamenophen use and the01:28:27
neurodedevelopmental disorders of ADHD01:28:30
and autism spectrum disorder. That's the01:28:32
dean of the Harvard School of Public01:28:34
Health. So they did this calculus um01:28:38
where they thought well hey Tonol is01:28:41
sometimes overused. You just don't need01:28:43
it. like why do you need to treat a01:28:45
low-grade fever if you're not01:28:47
uncomfortable? And we know we know01:28:49
there's overuse.01:28:51
Um there's actually a study out of01:28:53
John's Hopkins, my former institution,01:28:55
that if you take acetaminophen when a01:28:58
kid is sick, it prolongs the the01:29:01
duration of the sickness because the01:29:03
fever may be the body's natural way of01:29:06
trying to rid the infection and fight01:29:08
the the pathogen.01:29:10
So, uh, they decided, hey, there's01:29:14
studies suggesting an association.01:29:16
There's studies that suggest no01:29:18
association,01:29:20
but this was a very strong view by the01:29:23
dean of the Harvard School of Public01:29:24
Health. Why not play it safe and tell01:29:27
people to minimize the use of Tylenol01:29:30
during pregnancy?01:29:32
They made very uh important uh01:29:35
disclaimers that were not covered by the01:29:38
liberal media. They said talk to your01:29:41
doctor. They said sometimes you do need01:29:44
to take it. You have to weigh the risks01:29:46
and benefits. Those were never picked01:29:48
up. But they just they said in the01:29:50
precautionary principle, we want people01:29:52
to know what the dean of the Harvard01:29:54
School of Public Health believes in01:29:55
strongly. And I I believe the president01:29:58
and this administration have a right to01:30:01
an opinion to agree with the dean of the01:30:04
Harvard School of Public Health. Now,01:30:06
the media had, you know, a conipion. I01:30:08
mean, they went into a grand mall01:30:10
seizure. And the dean of the Harvard01:30:12
School of Public Health, who said he01:30:14
would be a part of the announcement and01:30:17
then he said he couldn't make it and he01:30:18
would be willing to do media when the01:30:21
announcement was uh broadcast, he went01:30:24
running for the hills. I mean, he was01:30:25
hiding behind a fig leaf cuz he's got01:30:28
donors who, you know, have Trump01:30:30
arrangement syndrome. And you know when01:30:31
you did that interview with Gupta and01:30:33
they asked the did you see the full01:30:35
interview that they put a statement from01:30:36
him afterwards after the topic. Have you01:30:39
seen that? >> Yeah I look I went back to Sanjay Gupta.01:30:42
I said you you got your fact check01:30:44
wrong. Here's the direct quote from the01:30:47
guy. >> What did he tell you?01:30:48
>> He said oh thanks for this information.01:30:51
>> But they didn't put it in the interview.01:30:53
>> They they they tried to say when I I01:30:56
pulled this quote from the dean of the01:30:57
Harvard School of Public Health. He01:30:58
said, "No, he he said that there is a01:31:01
possible association." Well, he said a01:31:03
lot of things, but he also said there is01:31:06
a causal relationship. That's a direct01:31:09
quote on the record. Uh it was part of a01:31:12
legal proceeding. So, it's not he01:31:14
wasn't, you know, so so he was afraid01:31:16
because I specifically want the audience01:31:18
to because what they did is while you01:31:20
guys are having a conversation,01:31:23
there it is, Rob. I'm going to send it01:31:24
to you. It's the interview with01:31:27
um if you type in Gupta and uh Marty, if01:31:33
you just type that on YouTube and then01:31:35
go to 26 minutes and 40 seconds. Okay,01:31:40
that interview right there on CNN. This01:31:42
is from a month ago.01:31:45
So, so the guy from Harvard first01:31:47
agrees, then he doesn't want to do it.01:31:51
Go back to 2630.01:31:54
Let's just go from 2630 if you can just01:31:56
to kind of see the exchange. Go from01:31:58
right there, Rob. >> ADHD and autism spectrum disorder.01:32:01
>> What is a causal association? Because I01:32:03
always thought there's associations.01:32:05
>> Yeah. >> And then there's cause and effect.01:32:07
>> Cause and effect. He thinks this is01:32:09
causing those. Now look, he may not be01:32:11
right. I don't know.01:32:12
>> I don't think he said that though. I01:32:13
think01:32:14
>> he said he said that. But in the in the01:32:15
rest of that quote, he said there's a01:32:17
plausible causation, but in the thing01:32:20
and but from what I read, he said that01:32:22
there may be an association between01:32:24
Tylenol and autism.01:32:25
>> I'll get you the quote. He said a lot of01:32:27
things.01:32:28
>> To clarify, we went straight to the01:32:30
source, Dr. Andrea Bakarelli, the dean01:32:32
of the Harvard Thchan School of Public01:32:34
Health. And here is the statement that01:32:36
was sent to us. This is currently linked01:32:39
on the White House website as of this01:32:41
week. And Dr. Dr. Bakarelli says in01:32:43
part, "As we noted in our review, animal01:32:46
studies have independently suggested01:32:48
that prenatal exposure to acetaminophen01:32:51
can adversely affect the developing01:32:53
brain. This biological evidence lends01:32:56
support to the possibility of a causal01:32:58
relationship between prenatal01:33:00
acetaminophen exposure and01:33:02
neurodedevelopmental disorders,01:33:04
including autism. So, the possibility of01:33:08
a causal relationship in animals. To be01:33:11
clear, overall, experts say that there01:33:13
are multiple causes of autism and the01:33:16
science showing a connection between01:33:17
autism and Tylenol is not at all01:33:20
settled. Back to the conversation.01:33:22
>> I think my job as a regulator,01:33:26
>> yeah, he's trying to play fact checker01:33:27
and say, well, he didn't say that. And01:33:30
so he pulls another statement that's01:33:33
recent because now you know since he01:33:35
went running for the hills after you01:33:36
know Trump said hey women when you're01:33:39
pregnant you know you may want to avoid01:33:40
ced menophen given the data that the guy01:33:44
was you know running and he was in01:33:46
hiding and so they put out a watered01:33:48
down statement about oh there might be a01:33:50
causal relationship and my point to01:33:52
Sanjay was no he said quote unquote01:33:54
there is a causal relationship it is01:33:56
part of a legal proceeding December 18th01:33:59
2020 23 and I sent it to him and I said,01:34:02
"How could you fact check that and and01:34:04
mix it up and I sent him the actual01:34:07
quote?" And he said, "Oh, thank you."01:34:09
>> That's it.01:34:10
>> Yeah. >> But did you reach out to the actual uh01:34:13
uh the the head of Harvard? And Andrea,01:34:16
is it his name? Andrea.01:34:17
>> Andrea Basel.01:34:18
>> Did you reach out to him and say, "Why01:34:20
did you change it and make it more01:34:22
watered down?"01:34:23
>> No. Um I don't Maybe Secretary Kennedy01:34:27
called him. I don't know. I don't know.01:34:29
I01:34:31
>> So what do they fear? So they fear what01:34:33
happens that the establishment's going01:34:34
to come out and be wrong. Is that what01:34:36
they fear? What what is the real fear01:34:38
here? >> I think it's just reactionary. I mean01:34:40
this was a a healthy debate in the01:34:42
field. There were studies on both sides.01:34:44
There was a review done by Harvard and01:34:46
Mount Si. The review came out weeks01:34:48
before uh we were about to talk about01:34:52
luccovorin as a treatment for some kids01:34:54
with autism. We were announcing this01:34:57
autoimmune mechanism whereby something01:34:59
triggers antibodies in a child to block01:35:02
the the lucavorin folate receptors in01:35:05
the bloodb brain barrier and that may be01:35:07
a cause of autism or may maybe many01:35:09
causes and there's a treatment that01:35:11
bypasses that blocked receptor and01:35:13
that's what we were about to announce01:35:14
and then the study comes out of Harvard01:35:16
weeks before and they decided hey do we01:35:19
also mention this this controversy in01:35:22
the field and they decided to to uh to01:35:26
mention it, to include it.01:35:27
>> If I'm not even mistaken, Rob, if you01:35:29
want to pull this up, uh uh uh uh01:35:32
Tylenol did a I I think I retweeted01:35:34
this. Matter of fact, I knew I retweet.01:35:36
I just can't find it. Didn't Tylenol01:35:38
tweet.01:35:39
>> Yeah. The past01:35:40
>> in the past in 2017 that says, "We01:35:44
actually don't recommend using any of01:35:46
our products while pregnant. Thank you01:35:49
for taking the time to voice your01:35:50
customer concerns today."01:35:52
>> This is from That's the tweet right01:35:54
there. Yep. There you go.01:35:55
>> Yeah, we actually don't recommend this01:35:56
from 2017. So, so if the product says01:36:00
it, no one paid a price for this more01:36:02
than Tylenol. Tylenol probably felt the01:36:05
direct impact cuz people are like,01:36:06
"Well, babe, don't give the Tylenol to01:36:08
the kid." So, I'm sure it's going to01:36:10
take a few months for them to see the01:36:11
impact cuz the most people don't most01:36:14
people have plenty of Tylenol in their01:36:15
house. Like, you don't need to go order01:36:17
Tylenol every single day, right? So,01:36:18
they're probably going to pay the price01:36:20
probably now, maybe Q1 of next year.01:36:23
Joe, what is his challenge if even01:36:25
Tylenol is saying that?01:36:28
>> We are working on approving a drug for01:36:31
Trump derangement syndrome, but01:36:33
unfortunately it will not work for stage01:36:35
4 terminal disease.01:36:37
>> You're joking about that, but that's01:36:39
actually a, you know, that's actually a01:36:41
thing now that that patients go to their01:36:43
doctors for trumped derangement01:36:44
syndrome. There's even a lady that uh01:36:46
there was a story I was on Jesse last01:36:49
night. They sent me to research a lady01:36:51
that went to the doctor and she said if01:36:53
I go I was on vacation the other day01:36:56
with my family and I was having panic01:36:59
attacks because if I went and even saw01:37:01
him on TV I would start having panic01:37:02
attacks and a doctor's trying to find a01:37:05
way to cure this woman.01:37:07
>> And you know it's a function of the I01:37:11
mean it's it's it's not just in01:37:13
politics. society has just gotten this01:37:15
toxic polarization fueled by the echo01:37:17
chambers of short form social media and01:37:20
cable news and it's just it's it's01:37:24
dividing our country and it needs to01:37:25
stop. People need to realize, look, we01:37:28
are taking a datadriven approach here,01:37:30
but there's a segment of the population01:37:33
that just whatever we say, we'll say the01:37:35
opposite. And it's very different for01:37:36
me. I was a cancer surgeon and01:37:39
researcher at Johns Hopkins for 2301:37:42
years. Everybody wanted me to succeed in01:37:45
that job. The administration, my01:37:47
colleagues, my staff, the students, the01:37:51
patient families. I'd go into some01:37:52
random restaurant and somebody would01:37:54
recognize me. Oh, um, you're the guy at01:37:57
the hospital. Yeah, keep up the good01:37:58
work. Everybody in society wanted me to01:38:01
succeed. And I'm the same guy. And I01:38:04
walk over 90 miles to the FDA to run the01:38:07
agency. And because it's a sort of a,01:38:11
you know, the politics of of the01:38:13
context, a third of the country is01:38:16
cheering for you to fail.01:38:18
>> Wow. And it's it's it's a it's a symptom01:38:21
of a larger problem in society. It it's01:38:24
I don't think it's really about any one01:38:26
individual. It's the the state of01:38:29
discourse in the United States.01:38:32
It it it doesn't look like it's getting01:38:34
any better anytime soon. It it seems01:38:37
like they're you know, you saw what01:38:39
happened this week with sedition last01:38:40
week01:38:42
with Mark Kelly coming out uh uh making01:38:46
his comment and I believe Hexad came01:38:47
out. Pete Hex came out yesterday,01:38:49
Secretary of State, and announced that01:38:51
they're looking into it to the point01:38:53
where Mark Kelly had to send a tweet01:38:55
writing up his resume of what he's done01:38:58
in his time in service, right? And you01:39:00
know, Mark was uh Yeah, this one right01:39:02
here. So, Captain Kelly, not only did01:39:04
your sedition video intentionally01:39:06
undercut good and order discipline, but01:39:07
you can't even display your uniform01:39:09
correctly. Your matters are out of order01:39:12
and rows reversed. When if you are01:39:15
recalled to active duty, I'll start with01:39:17
a uniform inspection.01:39:23
That is so funny to be able to pick on01:39:25
something like that. But let's talk01:39:26
about food. Let's talk about food and01:39:27
and wrap up with uh with food because01:39:29
that was one of the first things you01:39:30
said your friends talked to you about01:39:32
with uh food supply. So, if we make a01:39:34
list of countries with healthiest foods,01:39:36
okay, we looked this up yesterday. Japan01:39:39
would be at the top01:39:40
>> and it would say what they eat the most,01:39:42
fish and tea.01:39:43
>> And in Mediterranean region was second,01:39:46
believe it or not. I can eat Greek, you01:39:48
know, food all day. It's phenomenal.01:39:50
>> Yeah. >> It was number two with their olive oil.01:39:52
And then number three was South Korea,01:39:54
Iceland. And then the fifth one, a01:39:56
popular one here with Oberto and a01:39:57
couple of our guys was Israel. Okay.01:39:59
With high fruit.01:40:00
>> And then when you type in countries with01:40:03
the least healthiest food, we're at the01:40:06
top. Okay. number one most processed01:40:10
food per capita in the world. High01:40:13
sugar. And then it was UK, Australia,01:40:15
Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait.01:40:17
We're worse than Kuwait when it comes01:40:19
onto our food. We're worse than UK,01:40:21
Australia, everybody else. How do we get01:40:23
here? And why is that?01:40:26
It's a uh so the field of nutrition01:40:29
science historically has been one of the01:40:33
most corrupted of all the scientific01:40:36
disciplines. It it's first of all it's01:40:39
very hard to do the studies. It's hard01:40:40
to monitor compliance. People don't even01:40:42
tell me their correct height when they01:40:44
come see me as a doctor. They're not01:40:46
telling me accurately what they ate the01:40:49
day before. So these studies are flawed.01:40:51
The studies were really rigged and01:40:54
funded by the food industry. And there01:40:56
was a a charlatan in the 1960s named Dr.01:41:00
Anel Keys who set out to tell the world01:41:04
that the reason why we had heart disease01:41:06
and so many health problems was because01:41:08
of saturated fat. and he led the01:41:11
campaign to get saturated fat out of01:41:13
every carton of milk and school and and01:41:16
make it part of the national food01:41:19
pyramid and nutrition guidance. And and01:41:21
the problem was he picked the wrong01:41:24
thing because when you get saturated fat01:41:28
out, you have to put in refined01:41:29
carbohydrates to replace it to maintain01:41:31
the flavor. And so we he ushered in a a01:41:35
50-year era of refined ultrarocessed01:41:38
foods in the US diet. And these foods01:41:41
became addictive. They were chemically01:41:43
engineered to be addictive. Sometimes01:41:46
we also had something called the grass01:41:49
rule, which meant if a company can deem01:41:52
a chemical as safe or what we called G,01:41:57
generally recognized as safe, then they01:41:59
can put it in food. We didn't ask for01:42:02
any data or studies. They could just01:42:03
deem any chemical that they create safe.01:42:06
And it was called the grass rule. By the01:42:08
way, we're undoing the grass rule in01:42:10
this administration. We're in that01:42:12
process. But we had the wrong01:42:14
information01:42:16
and we're pounding these kids with01:42:18
things that raise their insulin levels01:42:20
to spikes never seen before in human01:42:22
history all day long. I mean, now kids01:42:24
have snack lists in school, right?01:42:27
You've seen these snack lists. What? You01:42:29
don't We didn't have snacks during01:42:31
class, in between class. You had01:42:33
breakfast, lunch, and dinner, right? So01:42:35
they're um we're pounding them with01:42:37
these high glycemic index things. Their01:42:38
insulin levels are going high and that01:42:40
moves fat into storage into the liver.01:42:42
We have an epidemic of fatty liver. And01:42:44
so we have all these health problems01:42:46
stemming from glucose metabolism, high01:42:49
insulin and what we call insulin01:42:51
resistance. That is the cells can't01:42:54
handle all the sugar in the system. So01:42:56
they start trying to block it. And that01:42:58
is at the root of probably half our01:43:00
chronic diseases if not more. We've got01:43:02
to talk about school lunch programs, not01:43:05
just putting every six-year-old on01:43:06
Ozmpic. We are doing SNAP waiverss so01:43:09
that we don't have to use01:43:10
>> taxy on OMIC.01:43:12
>> Yeah, that's the big push now by the01:43:13
American Yeah. American Academy of01:43:15
Pediatrics. That's the push. They're01:43:16
trying to lower the age from 12 to six.01:43:19
>> Putting sixy olds on OMIC.01:43:21
>> Big push.01:43:22
>> GLP wants to.01:43:23
>> Yes.01:43:25
>> Wow. >> Yeah. Okay.01:43:26
>> This is not their fault. the kids. We01:43:29
want to blame the kids, but this is not01:43:31
a willpower problem. This is something01:43:33
adults have done to children by01:43:36
manipulating the food supply that's in01:43:38
front of them. And so, you put these01:43:39
vibrant colors with artificial petroleum01:43:42
based food dyes in ultrarocessed foods01:43:45
that have chemicals designed to be01:43:47
addictive and then you blame the kid for01:43:50
wanting more. There's a weird thing that01:43:52
some food does where it you consume it01:43:55
and you're kind you're full but you're01:43:58
still hungry. Your appetite's still01:44:00
there and so you want more. And studies01:44:02
have even shown the the vibrant colors01:44:04
on these cereals play with the01:44:06
developing mind of a ch child and they01:44:08
want more.01:44:09
>> And so it's it's not rocket this is not01:44:12
the riddle of the sphinx. This is not01:44:14
rocket science. It's this is very01:44:17
obvious what's going on.01:44:19
So, we took action to remove all01:44:21
petroleum based food diets from the US01:44:23
food supply. We're rewriting the food01:44:25
pyramid. We're ending the 50-year war on01:44:27
saturated fat. We're talking about the01:44:29
types of grains,01:44:32
the grains with fiber and that come from01:44:34
good soil01:44:36
are healthier. Why do I have patients01:44:39
with chronic abdominal pain that we do01:44:41
everything we can in Western medicine?01:44:43
Nothing works. and they go to Europe for01:44:45
a year for a study abroad program and01:44:47
they're cured. What did they do? They01:44:49
just ate the food in Europe. So, we are01:44:54
such an easy fix to do. But again, going01:44:58
back to lobbyists, okay, just for the01:45:01
grain, the agricultural industry in the01:45:04
amount of money they spend on lobbying,01:45:06
I think in 2024, 2023 was 177 million.01:45:11
How do you fight that? goes back to the01:45:13
same thing. >> The same thing. It's a big force.01:45:16
Thankfully,01:45:19
President Trump has told me and01:45:21
Secretary Kennedy, you do what's right.01:45:24
You go big. You go bold and don't worry01:45:26
about the corporations and the01:45:27
lobbyists. We We've never had that01:45:30
freedom in government to talk so openly01:45:35
about this. If I were in a prior01:45:37
administration, I'd have 50 text01:45:40
messages after this interview saying,01:45:42
"Oh, how dare you offend this lobby and01:45:44
that lobby." No. President has told us,01:45:46
"Go big. Do what's right and go bold and01:45:49
don't worry about them." And so, we're01:45:51
rewriting the food pyramid. It'll come01:45:53
out soon. It's going to be a gamecher.01:45:55
The SNAP waiverss now are it's the first01:45:58
ever where we're allowing states to not01:46:01
use taxpayer dollars for the foods that01:46:03
we deem uh bad for kids. We're seeing a01:46:06
renaissance in school lunch programs.01:46:09
We are now talking about uh natural01:46:12
light exposure. We're talking about the01:46:14
quality of sleep and circadian rhythms01:46:17
in children. We're talking about why do01:46:20
kids have attention deficit disorder?01:46:22
Why do they are they on01:46:24
anti-depressants?01:46:26
Uh not just give them more and give them01:46:29
the next level. Um so, uh we're doing a01:46:33
ton on food. It's exciting. Um, we're01:46:37
also eliminating unnecessary animal01:46:40
testing. We're doing it in a humane way.01:46:42
We're doing a lot. The food program led01:46:44
by Kyle Deontis is crushing it at the01:46:48
FDA. It's a big part of the FDA. It's01:46:50
been ignored. A lot of the doctors come01:46:52
in with drug backgrounds and they just01:46:54
kind of let it sit there. We We've got a01:46:57
ton of reforms that are coming out and01:47:00
we work closely with USDA and Brook01:47:02
Rollins. >> That's great. You know, yesterday we're01:47:04
having a a conversation with a couple of01:47:06
our friends and one of our guys says01:47:09
it's it's it was harder to quit. He01:47:13
says, "I was able to quit smoking01:47:15
cigarettes." He smoked cigarettes for 1001:47:17
years. He was able to quit. He says,01:47:20
"But he's having a very hard time01:47:21
quitting sugar and the addiction to01:47:24
sugar." And I've seen friends addicted01:47:26
to a lot of different drugs over the01:47:28
years. I've taken friends to uh01:47:30
rehabilitation facilities for them to01:47:32
stop using drugs. 14 days, you know,01:47:34
they have to do all these things. But01:47:37
what what what how are you handling or01:47:39
what can families learn more about the01:47:42
addiction we have to sugar? Most people01:47:44
don't even know this. There's sugar and01:47:45
ketchup.01:47:47
You're like, why do I like ketchup so01:47:49
much? There's a ton of sugar in ketchup.01:47:51
Ketchup has sugar. Yes. What else I01:47:53
should you kind of goes through these uh01:47:56
you know dressing you use when you're01:47:57
having salad. Why do I like the salad01:47:59
dressing so much? Because there's some01:48:01
sugar to it. So are you are you doing01:48:03
anything to also01:48:06
you know hold some people accountable to01:48:09
anything and everything they can see to01:48:10
put sugar in for people to get addicted01:48:12
to they're doing it. What what are we01:48:13
doing about that? So, we're looking at01:48:14
putting front of package labeling on01:48:17
added sugar on uh food uh containers and01:48:21
packages. That's going to help educate01:48:23
folks. We put out something called a01:48:25
request for information from the01:48:26
industry. We we want a unified01:48:28
definition of ultrarocessed foods,01:48:30
something we never talked about with the01:48:32
old food pyramid and dietary guidance.01:48:34
Um, obesity is an addiction to sugar.01:48:38
That's what it's a glycemic addiction if01:48:40
we're being honest. And so you're right,01:48:42
you can go cold turkey from cigarettes,01:48:45
but it's hard. Like 3% of people who try01:48:47
it succeed going cold turkey with01:48:49
cigarettes, many of them need some kind01:48:51
of aid uh to ramp off. But same with01:48:55
glycemic addiction. If you got a01:48:57
significant glycemic addiction, so we're01:48:59
addicting kids to sugar and then we're01:49:03
blaming them for the addiction that we01:49:05
created in them. It's I mean it's01:49:08
insane. And so, um,01:49:12
so we have to educate people. We're01:49:14
trying to get the word out. We're01:49:15
talking about it. And we want people to01:49:17
know that sugar was ignored entirely in01:49:21
the dietary guidance because the01:49:23
industry liked having a addictive01:49:25
substance that you never talked about.01:49:28
Uh, we are we're talking about protein01:49:30
now. We need more protein than we01:49:32
thought. But, uh, no, it obesity is in01:49:36
part a glycemic addiction.01:49:39
Yeah, I mean we'll we'll see what it01:49:41
happened there. And last but not least01:49:42
with this vaping thing that's out with01:49:44
uh 70 you're seeing in it and as well as01:49:48
other places that they're selling it. If01:49:50
if I'm saying it correctly, 70. Am I01:49:52
saying it the correctly? What is 70?01:49:55
>> 70 is an opioid sold in many vape stores01:49:59
in the United States. And you might01:50:01
think, how can you just sell an opioid01:50:04
in a vape store? But people don't01:50:07
recognize that 70, which is a new01:50:11
synthetic concentrated chemical sold in01:50:14
gummies and food uh drinks.01:50:18
>> Wow. >> It goes by several names. Seven01:50:20
hydroxies. Hy, it's called just hydroxy01:50:24
hydroxyragenine.01:50:26
Uh metragginine, MIT. You'll see this on01:50:29
packages of things sold in vape stores01:50:32
and and people should know it is an01:50:33
opioid. We're not talking about the01:50:35
trace amount of 70 in the cratom leaf.01:50:38
We're talking about synthetic01:50:40
concentrated 70. Parents need to educate01:50:43
their kids that this is an opioid and01:50:47
you don't want to touch the stuff.01:50:48
>> Is it is it true that it is 13 times01:50:50
stronger than morphine and its effects?01:50:52
>> It binds to the opioid mu receptor 1301:50:55
times more tightly than morphine. And so01:51:00
we don't have any research on this new01:51:03
opioid. And so we've got to tell kids01:51:07
like don't play with fire. And we have01:51:10
heard stories of kids found dead with 7001:51:13
rappers at their bedside. So we want the01:51:16
school districts, houses of worship, we01:51:18
want everyone to know about 70 and tell01:51:20
educate your kids. Do not mess with it.01:51:24
>> Yeah. This is not good when you're going01:51:25
through it. And I think the biggest01:51:26
thing at the end of the day is for01:51:28
parents to be educated uh to make good01:51:31
lifestyle changes. Every time I have01:51:33
someone on the podcast that's like the01:51:35
last time I had Celsius to drink. You01:51:37
know when was the last time I drank01:51:38
Celsius is the day we had Paul Saladino01:51:42
on.01:51:43
>> I don't know if you know who Paul01:51:44
Saladino is. He's with he's with Maha.01:51:47
>> Uh he he works with with Maha as well.01:51:49
He came in. He told me that's it. That's01:51:50
the last time. June, January 27th is the01:51:54
last time I drank Celsius. And I would01:51:56
drink Celsius every day. It's the last01:51:58
time I had it because of what he showed01:52:01
me. So, this is why we bring brains and01:52:03
experts like you to make us smarter.01:52:05
>> And I appreciate you for your time01:52:06
today. This was great. Really enjoyed01:52:08
the conversation. Is there anything you01:52:11
want to drive the audience to for them01:52:12
to go learn more? Is there a website? Is01:52:14
there anything you want them to go to?01:52:17
Well, first of all, thanks for having me01:52:18
on and um I'm disappointed we didn't01:52:22
talk about pancreatic bililliary01:52:24
diseases which I thought we were maybe01:52:26
going to talk about, but >> one of these days,01:52:27
>> one of these days, but no, our FDA01:52:29
website has a bunch of information. It's01:52:31
great to connect with you. Great to be01:52:33
here. Thanks for having me.01:52:34
>> Likewise. Great having you on as well.01:52:35
Appreciate your time. Appreciate for01:52:37
coming out. Take care everybody. We'll01:52:38
see you guys tomorrow. God bless.01:52:39
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