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the Joe Rogan experience it's so00:00:04
unbelievably compelling though to00:00:06
consider the idea that somewhere out00:00:08
there there's another civilization that00:00:11
may be even more advanced than us and00:00:13
this is this thought of it is just so00:00:16
attractive it's it's it's incredible00:00:19
that [ __ ] there should be if if00:00:22
civilizations are common or even00:00:25
slightly common then there should be00:00:28
civilizations ahead of us yes because00:00:30
there's been so much time but wouldn't00:00:31
you want to see what that's like yeah I00:00:33
mean we'd be so compelling you imagine00:00:35
the timescales we've been around as a00:00:36
civilization let's let's give it say00:00:38
40,000 years I don't know long our00:00:40
civilization has been around let's say00:00:42
that the the galaxy is pretty much as00:00:45
old as the universe it's 13 billion00:00:47
years worth of time so the idea that00:00:52
there are no no civilization zeros you00:00:55
know 100 million years ago 200 million00:00:57
years ago 1 billion years ago and imagine what00:01:00
they'd be like if they'd survived I mean00:01:02
we've been we've been around we've had00:01:04
science for let's say since Newton or00:01:07
Copernicus 500 years at most00:01:09
we've had Sun look what we've done we've00:01:12
gone beyond the solar system with00:01:13
Voyager we've walked on the moon and00:01:16
we're about to go to Mars I would think00:01:19
so we're about to begin colonizing our00:01:21
own solar system and so we've done that00:01:24
in 500 years so imagine a million years00:01:29
in the future so I would it's one of the00:01:32
arguments often used to say there aren't00:01:34
any civilizations out there in the00:01:35
galaxy it's called the Fermi paradox00:01:37
because if you imagine a civilization00:01:39
that's a million years ahead of us they00:01:41
should have written their presence00:01:43
across the sky by now they should used00:01:45
to see him I mean you'll see us if we00:01:47
survive in million years into the future00:01:50
actually even a few thousand years into00:01:53
the future we will be exploring the00:01:55
galaxy we will have spacecraft that are00:01:58
going to of the stars we will be doing00:01:59
it so our signature will become visible00:02:02
I'm sure if we last into the medium-term00:02:06
would we choose to not do that here's my00:02:09
thought on that is uncontacted tribes00:02:12
like do you know00:02:14
the gentleman who was the missionary who00:02:16
visited North Sentinel island yeah it00:02:18
was killed by the natives North Sentinel00:02:20
island which is a really unusual place00:02:22
because they branched off from Africa00:02:24
60,000 years ago and they've been living00:02:26
on this one small ion the size of00:02:27
Manhattan and as well as we know there's00:02:30
only about 39 of them left somewhere00:02:32
around there and we can't we're not00:02:35
supposed to contact them like people are00:02:38
not spoke we're supposed to like leave00:02:39
them alone and there are a rare tribe00:02:42
when they find them in the Amazon the00:02:44
uncontacted tribes our initial instinct00:02:46
is back off leave them alone leave them00:02:49
alone do you think that perhaps a00:02:50
universe like if there is a civilization00:02:53
that's a million times more advanced00:02:54
than awesome been around here for you00:02:56
know millions of years of life as00:02:58
opposed to quarter million why would00:03:01
they why would they let us know like00:03:04
well they look at us dropping bombs on00:03:05
each other and polluting the ocean and00:03:07
sucking all the fish out and putting00:03:09
clouds into the skies of dirt and00:03:12
particles and yeah why would they live00:03:14
like a look at these crude monkeys look00:03:16
a-there they do they're so far beyond00:03:18
where they need to be before they could00:03:20
join the Galactic Civilizations it is00:03:24
true it's an argument that there is an00:03:26
argument as well that it technology's so00:03:29
advanced would be difficult for us to00:03:31
detect I mean we tend to think of you00:03:34
know when you say written across the sky00:03:35
I suppose it's true I'm thinking of00:03:37
starships yeah like Star Wars right it's00:03:39
a big energy things that you can see the00:03:41
signature of but actually maybe the00:03:44
civilization just becomes a nano00:03:46
civilization a tiny little nano but00:03:48
because that's more inefficient it's a00:03:50
better way to do things00:03:51
so it's possible I suppose then there00:03:54
are space probes all over the place00:03:56
they're so small and it's so efficient00:03:58
and use so little energy that we just00:04:00
don't see them I suppose that is00:04:02
possible there's a theory that is00:04:04
actually being tossed about that these00:04:09
people that have this ancient well they00:04:11
have this memory of childbirth right so00:04:14
all the sudden you're being born there's00:04:16
bright lights above you there's a man or00:04:19
a woman who's the surgeon with a mask00:04:21
that covers their face so all you see is00:04:22
their eyes okay and everything looks00:04:24
bright and and00:04:26
it's terrifying and clinical and you're00:04:28
on this table and everything's cold00:04:30
most of these alien abduction00:04:33
experiences that people recount they00:04:36
take place in some sort of a medical00:04:38
facility yeah and everything is bright00:04:41
and strange and cold and they think that00:04:45
what this is is they're they're saying00:04:48
that we had this idea that children00:04:51
don't have memories that babies don't00:04:52
have memories and so they say well why00:04:54
wouldn't they have memories that's00:04:55
ridiculous of course they have memories00:04:57
they have brains they they grab your00:04:59
finger they looked you in the eye they00:05:00
would have a memory of every second that00:05:02
they were born and it's probably one of00:05:05
the most profound and disturbing00:05:07
memories because before that everything00:05:09
is incredibly peaceful inside the00:05:11
mother's womb you know you're just like00:05:14
pulled out and then there's this bright00:05:16
light above you never experienced any00:05:18
light so every and your visual00:05:20
perception your field of view is all00:05:23
distorted right this is the first time00:05:24
using your eyes that's why people have00:05:26
been saying yes that's interesting this00:05:30
is a theory it makes sense to me because00:05:33
of you think about more sense than the00:05:35
abduction so what does because people00:05:38
don't really go anywhere see the thing00:05:40
about the abduction thing as they put00:05:42
like cameras in people's rooms and and00:05:45
they say they have these alien abduction00:05:47
experiences but they don't go anywhere00:05:48
so what they're doing is they're00:05:50
dreaming yeah which is the mind is00:05:53
amazing and it's so powerful and we know00:05:56
so little still yeah so also like these00:05:59
all these that means it's kind of duh00:06:01
because they all happen while you're00:06:03
sleeping 19 percent they tend to be00:06:07
medical yeah it's very medical in nature00:06:09
right you're being examined and then00:06:12
there's also going back to childbirth00:06:14
there's also a lot of people that have00:06:16
these experiences that they are being00:06:19
told that either they're taking their00:06:23
baby away from them or they're studying00:06:25
their baby or that they had a baby00:06:27
inside of them they didn't know about00:06:28
and that the aliens have put it there00:06:31
and they're taking it out right yeah00:06:33
yeah I mean it even goes back to the00:06:34
virgin birth right it's all very weird00:06:37
but this this memory that people have00:06:41
from childhood is most likely you know00:06:45
probably a pretty intense memory that's00:06:49
always there yeah yeah and some people00:06:53
can tap into it and some people can't00:06:54
yeah sure yeah yeah mainline historical00:06:58
books about mainstream SS castles where00:07:00
they go the aliens want blood so they'd00:07:02
kill like 20 kids and everything's they00:07:04
aliens like the blood brings them in00:07:07
like sharks and then they want to use00:07:09
the technology they go this is how it00:07:11
works you put the atomic weapons this00:07:12
way you build oh they would like showman00:07:13
bombers like the aliens are like00:07:15
telepathic I don't even believe this00:07:16
this is what the possibly and the aliens00:07:18
with mind meld and given the technology00:07:20
they're bad aliens so they are you00:07:21
surprised that Nazis were influenced by00:07:23
demons no if demons real definitely00:07:26
think they'd be on the side of the Nazis00:07:28
yeah but Joe what I'm telling you it'll00:07:30
be no amedeo no media is going to attack00:07:33
this I'm giving you want to know where I00:07:35
can read it where can I read that those00:07:38
statements that they were contact with00:07:40
the aliens the real society vol beside00:07:46
me patch it right up there with them00:07:50
like doing three hours evac you fly over00:07:53
the report I'll send it all to you with00:07:56
mainline books also I'll know the books00:07:58
with the tabs in them okay and I'll mail00:08:00
documents okay cool yeah I'd like I00:08:02
listen I think that they were absolutely00:08:04
were they're obsessed with the occult00:08:05
that's been pretty well documented a00:08:07
made flying saucers and I think yeah hey00:08:10
did you talk about did you talk about00:08:12
that alien craft that came into her what00:08:15
happened we came to our galaxy did then00:08:17
won't the Hawaiian name so it's over you00:08:20
didn't hear about that one the one that00:08:21
looks like a joint00:08:22
yeah looks for a big piece of poo yeah00:08:25
that's just a big rowdy copter it's just00:08:27
a weird rock I think now they said that00:08:30
uh some like legit people said that it00:08:32
changed speed and went in different00:08:35
directions and yet people legit people00:08:36
Oh scientists oh them guys said that it00:08:40
was uh it could be something hmm could00:08:43
be what is neil degrasse he say about it00:08:46
he's not talking right now00:08:49
hey yeah he's in a little bit of a00:08:51
kerfuffle kerfuffle00:08:53
what's this Jim Harvard scientists say00:08:56
aliens may explain bizarre interstellar00:08:59
object yeah I saw that and then I saw00:09:02
someone refuting Bharat scientists00:09:04
Harvard nobody wants to believe more00:09:06
than me bro00:09:07
come on Joe it's real well if I was00:09:10
gonna mask my spaceship to fly through00:09:12
the galaxy I would definitely make it00:09:13
look like a big rock yeah like a big00:09:15
asteroid right why wouldn't you00:09:17
driving through space maybe if they were00:09:20
like look if we just make this thing00:09:22
drive by them and don't change speeds00:09:25
they'll have no idea just think asteroid00:09:28
they'll be psyched that we missed them00:09:29
okay I could call good call someone just00:09:33
hits the gas I'm tired I want [ __ ]00:09:35
taking too long00:09:36
what you got it the [ __ ] cops are00:09:40
behind this damn [ __ ] god damn it Dave00:09:43
you're not supposed to just take off00:09:45
told you 65 you [ __ ] let's start00:09:48
throwing this weed out the window why00:09:49
would it be so hard to believe a space00:09:52
rock traveling through space that would00:09:54
be the move right I mean if they are so00:09:56
advanced they can travel through00:09:57
galaxies they can make this [ __ ] look00:09:59
like anything they want it to yeah when00:10:01
you doll it up sounds good doesn't it00:10:03
god I want to believe it's so hard well00:10:06
I I hope you do because there's gonna be00:10:09
there's gonna be a lot of stuff I want00:10:10
to know what you've seen though so00:10:12
you've seen this piece of metal what00:10:14
else have you seen I've seen many many00:10:17
documents on the studies of these things00:10:20
and I've seen a lot of the science00:10:24
associated with what the technology is00:10:27
and what it does like I could show you00:10:30
if I fold up pieces of paper and stuff00:10:32
what's going on with it but basically I00:10:34
you know these crafts well you know when00:10:38
when you travel in a straight line but00:10:41
they're folding spaced like in event00:10:43
horizon or they explained it by folding00:10:44
a piece of paper and punching a pencil00:10:46
through it you ever see em yeah yeah00:10:47
it's kind of like a movie but it's more00:10:49
like you know here I can draw it for you00:10:52
here not that this is a it's kind of00:10:55
like when you have two points you know00:10:58
we're used to traveling in a direction00:11:00
like that mm-hmm and so when we look up00:11:03
we see a plane that goes straight right00:11:05
but these these UFOs fold space-time00:11:09
like this and so it looks like to them00:11:14
they're going in a straight line so if00:11:16
you're in the ship you see that but if00:11:19
you're on the ground you see that okay00:11:21
that's why you see them blink off and on00:11:23
a lot of those videos they're on the00:11:25
looks like they're jumping it's just00:11:27
because of this so they're having space00:11:29
time some way of interfacing with space00:11:31
itself that's very different than our00:11:33
idea of traveling in a linear way from00:11:36
point A to point B space the fabric they00:11:38
call it the fabric of space-time because00:11:40
it's like a fabric it's malleable now00:11:42
let me ask you this how often into a00:11:44
conversation do people look at you and00:11:46
think you are [ __ ] crazy when you00:11:47
start talking about this and how all the00:11:49
time yeah all the time right but do you00:11:51
ever get to the probably like I don't00:11:52
want to talk about this00:11:53
no because it's it's you I always tell00:11:56
me you don't know what I know you know00:11:57
and there's a lot I know no I mean like00:11:59
do you ever get to the point where like00:12:00
I can't do this anymore00:12:01
people think I'm [ __ ] crazy no00:12:03
because I'm involved on the most00:12:05
important [ __ ] I've ever been in my life00:12:06
I think this is like the most important00:12:08
thing you've ever done00:12:09
[ __ ] yeah like I have meetings with00:12:12
senators coming up like oh [ __ ] yeah00:12:14
senators I can't tell you all this I00:12:16
can't tell you stuff I know this is some00:12:18
[ __ ] trend [ __ ] when is all this00:12:19
gonna come out like it seems like this00:12:21
is like animate eminent rather00:12:23
disclosure type [ __ ] watch what my00:12:25
company does that's what I'll say what00:12:27
ransom yeah I love when someone is like00:12:32
that yeah you know like your friend that00:12:33
hasn't talked for 22 years00:12:35
I love [ __ ] like yeah you don't hear00:12:37
about that no or someone that'll stop00:12:41
being in Van Halen to go [ __ ] with00:12:42
swords oh yeah yeah yeah it goes [ __ ]00:12:46
with it yeah you two think they're00:12:48
really bringing him to the Pentagon and00:12:50
[ __ ] like that I don't know cuz I said they like I have00:12:53
no clue and I had watched a little bit00:12:56
of your podcast where you were like me a00:12:59
text message why don't you you know but00:13:03
I feel like he's made himself readily00:13:06
available you do that [ __ ] you know like00:13:09
right I don't know it's a it's I sit and00:13:13
scratch my head and go I don't know I00:13:14
don't know he's00:13:15
I just [ __ ] yeah he's such a talented00:13:18
talented dude - man he's like such a00:13:20
good songwriter yeah he well he00:13:23
certainly is certainly a very talented00:13:25
guides it's just so interesting that00:13:26
that's his main point of focus yeah I00:13:28
would think that if aliens were real00:13:30
Trump would have told us I really do00:13:32
believe that yeah that guy's he's such a00:13:34
[ __ ] loose cannon he became the00:13:37
president like maybe they could hit it00:13:39
from him or his [ __ ] chaotic as [ __ ]00:13:40
is right now it was something I don't00:13:42
know something with slip you know I yeah00:13:45
I would think that if they told him if00:13:47
they brought him those are just two00:13:49
things I would want to know who killed00:13:51
JFK those are two things I'd want to00:13:53
know if I became the president and our00:13:55
aliens real what do you got [ __ ]00:13:57
yeah what do you got I go to the top00:13:59
generals I bet look I'm gonna defer to00:14:01
you guys I'm not a military expert okay00:14:03
I mean I don't want war but I want you00:14:06
guys to have support I got full respect00:14:08
tell me about that was it Trump borders00:14:11
establishment of space force he did that00:14:13
that's right the space force but that's00:14:15
because there's that's actually a00:14:18
military strategy because they're00:14:19
concerned that as technology improves00:14:22
Russians are going to be in space and00:14:24
we're gonna be in space or or fight off00:14:27
the aliens Yeah right like Will Smith00:14:29
type [ __ ] yeah look at them yeah Mike00:14:32
Pence is behind him going Jesus yeah I00:14:38
don't know man but if I became president00:14:40
I never will but if I did those are the00:14:42
two things that I'd want to know who00:14:44
killed JFK and where the [ __ ] aliens I00:14:46
got off in The Comedy Store I'd like to00:14:49
and then I watched some goofy I've been00:14:51
on this UFO documentary watching UFO00:14:54
documentaries00:14:55
yeah I told you as David I'd say I00:14:58
started talking about it we were talking00:14:59
about that what were you did you have00:15:00
something specific that you would saw00:15:02
recently a documentary one of them is00:15:04
area area 51 Bob Lazar and Aliev area 5100:15:08
in flying saucers it's uh some00:15:11
documentary on this guy who claimed that00:15:14
he worked on these alien ships in area00:15:17
51 in the 1980s chills as times gone on00:15:21
more the things that he said have proven00:15:24
to actually be true like what00:15:26
an element that he talked about00:15:28
element 115 I think it was called like a00:15:31
organism from outer space00:15:32
no no an element like a man created00:15:34
element you know at this carbon right00:15:35
yeah that will there's an element that00:15:38
they created that he talked about way00:15:40
before it was ever publicized and he00:15:43
talked about this thing and then it00:15:44
turned out to be true he talked about00:15:46
these there's these hand monitors so you00:15:51
would put your hand on this thing and00:15:52
these line these metal lines would00:15:55
detect the distances in the bones of00:15:58
your fingers the exact distances and00:16:00
every one is different it's like a00:16:02
signature thing00:16:03
yeah and that they could find out if it00:16:04
was you or not you that was trying to go00:16:06
through so the way they would scan00:16:08
people that bio scan would literally00:16:10
measure the bones and their fingers and00:16:12
people said that was horseshit why about00:16:13
this in the 1980s people said it was00:16:15
horseshit but then later on turned out00:16:17
no they did have that in Los Alamos they00:16:20
did have that in in area 51 and that00:16:22
this technology was very very advanced00:16:27
very not just very advanced but very not00:16:30
it was not well known at all like very00:16:32
few people did this guy who was creator00:16:34
of this documentary was very difficult00:16:35
for them to get photos of this hand00:16:37
scanner but this hand scanner did exist00:16:39
and existed exactly as this guy00:16:42
described it in the 80s I mean that's00:16:44
super progressive for that there's also00:16:46
infidel that did approve his top-secret00:16:48
clearance to get to this place they know00:16:50
that he actually worked there there's00:16:52
people that worked in the same Los00:16:56
Alamos lab with him they tried to say he00:16:58
never worked there but his names on the00:16:59
manifest00:17:00
it's very strange it's like they've00:17:01
tried to erase parts of this guy's past00:17:04
because he he filmed a bunch of their00:17:07
crafts as they were flying around like00:17:08
he knew what days this is the thing that00:17:11
thing right there you put your hand on00:17:12
that and it actually measures the00:17:14
distance of the size and length of your00:17:16
bone that looks like something that's00:17:18
inside of an escape room in LA I went00:17:25
into this documentary skeptical unless00:17:27
you said yeah but I am I'm so done with00:17:30
all those things but listen to this guy00:17:32
talk for awhile after a while I was like00:17:34
what if he's telling the truth like what00:17:37
if he is actually telling the truth00:17:38
because if he's actually telling the00:17:40
truth there is00:17:41
some part of the government that had00:17:44
access at least in the 1980s to alien00:17:47
technology oh my god yeah yeah see I00:17:53
believe in there's other other00:17:55
life-forms out there that I don't think00:17:57
they're coming here they might the thing00:18:00
they might what why not think it but00:18:03
just because here's here's one thing I00:18:04
do believe most people are full [ __ ]00:18:06
when it comes to like most of their00:18:08
stories like it's it's hard to find a00:18:11
person that could just tell you what00:18:13
happened based on what they really00:18:15
remember people want to jazz things up00:18:18
and they want to add salt and pepper00:18:20
yeah they have sex with men that don't00:18:24
they don't necessarily tell you the00:18:27
truth they tell you what they think is00:18:29
gonna be an engaging story that kind of00:18:32
represents the truth maybe especially00:18:34
when it's a weird thing like you saw00:18:36
something in the sky what did you really00:18:38
see how long did you look at it for how00:18:40
many seconds was it well I mean here's00:18:43
the problem I have with UFOs and I00:18:46
believe there are UFOs but I don't think00:18:48
they're coming here that means you say00:18:50
that because that means they're tech00:18:51
first of all if they're coming here that00:18:53
means their technology is far way more00:18:55
advanced than ours right so why would00:18:57
they care if people saw them they would00:18:59
show up if I was an alien and I was that00:19:02
far ahead of us00:19:03
I would lay in that [ __ ] right in the00:19:05
middle of Times Square and be like what00:19:07
we require why would you do that but why00:19:09
wouldn't I why am i hiding in fields00:19:12
where nobody can see us00:19:14
are you aware of how we treat00:19:16
uncontacted tribes yes to a point but00:19:20
the point but what I'm saying is if00:19:22
you're that power advanced they know if00:19:25
they're coming here they know they're00:19:27
they're way smarter than that's right00:19:29
because they've traveled here right and00:19:31
we don't even know other from far00:19:33
distances we can't even imagine and00:19:35
they're here they don't have to hide00:19:36
it's just like they do it because they00:19:38
have to hide or do you think maybe they00:19:41
do it because we can't handle it because00:19:43
we can't handle it why would they care00:19:44
if we could handle it or not because00:19:46
here's the problem whenever any00:19:48
civilization has ever encountered a00:19:51
civilization far superior to the00:19:54
the results have always been00:19:56
catastrophic every single time every00:19:59
time Europeans have invaded North00:20:01
America every time the Spanish visited00:20:04
the Mexicans every time that this has00:20:07
happened it's been a disaster and this00:20:09
is human beings if there was something00:20:11
that came down here from another planet00:20:13
it was so unbelievably sophisticated00:20:15
that they could travel through vast00:20:17
distances in space and had00:20:19
insurmountable impossible technology00:20:22
that we would look to it for all of our00:20:25
answers it would become our new daddy it00:20:27
would completely disrupt all of our00:20:29
governments it would disrupt all of our00:20:30
religions it would disrupt every single00:20:32
belief system we have and people would00:20:35
fall apart they wouldn't know what to do00:20:36
psychologically it would be devastating00:20:38
look I'm not a doctor I'm not a00:20:41
psychologist but I know most people00:20:44
would not be able to handle it I00:20:45
understand that but why would they care00:20:47
because that's my whole point because00:20:49
why would they care about cuz it would00:20:50
be affecting our culture it wouldn't00:20:52
care but why wouldn't they care where I00:20:54
care we care about animals bro there's a00:20:56
reason we have wildlife protection00:20:57
agencies we have that because we care00:20:59
about animals and animals don't even00:21:01
know we're a thing okay if you're a deer00:21:03
living in the forest and you're two00:21:05
years old you might not have ever even00:21:06
seen a person you even know what the00:21:07
[ __ ] we are but we're trying to keep00:21:09
those deer alive we spend billions of00:21:11
dollars every year protecting them we do00:21:13
that because we care about wildlife if00:21:15
we cared about a rare monkey that we00:21:18
found in Indonesia in the course of00:21:20
strange monkey we would do whatever we00:21:22
could to make sure that monkeys00:21:23
populations thrived if there was a way00:21:26
to help them I mean that's one of the00:21:28
reasons why zoos exist they take rare00:21:29
animals they try to breed them in00:21:31
captivity and but we're also sharing the00:21:33
same earth well then maybe they look at00:21:35
the universe that way okay nuclear00:21:38
civilizations like our civilization I00:21:40
mean our civilization is a very00:21:42
dangerous one because we're we're a00:21:44
bunch of semi hairless monkeys with00:21:46
nuclear weapons00:21:47
I mean we're [ __ ] nuts bro oh yeah00:21:49
we're obsessed with sex we jack off to00:21:52
our phones where we're taking pills to00:21:54
keep our dick hard we're all on speed00:21:58
these are we're at and we lie we lie00:22:01
about [ __ ] we lie about things that00:22:03
people did to us we pretend people think00:22:05
did worse things we pretend that we00:22:07
didn't do00:22:08
to people we lie about stealing we lie00:22:11
about money we lie about all kinds of00:22:13
things mean people so so you're three00:22:15
you're thinking aliens are thinking00:22:17
about all that before they come down of00:22:19
course they would when you discuss the00:22:21
cosmos maybe the single most intriguing00:22:23
possibility to us as human beings is00:22:27
what other intelligent life if any is00:22:31
out there and how interesting is that to00:22:33
you because you spend so much time00:22:35
studying the fundamental particles of00:22:38
the universe itself how interested are00:22:40
you in the possibility of other00:22:43
intelligent life forms or have you just00:22:45
like put that out into the it's just so00:22:50
ridiculously unlikely or so far away00:22:53
from us that we're probably never going00:22:54
to make contact well you see it's not so00:22:57
there's a SETI program looking at to see00:23:00
where they can see signals from distant00:23:02
civilizations the problem there from my00:23:05
perspective is that although they might00:23:07
be out there they've got to have had a00:23:10
real head start on us before you we see00:23:12
them right and they might have done so00:23:14
but then I don't know you see actually00:23:17
why he goes to John who's my Armenian00:23:20
colleague and who looked also for these00:23:22
ring shaped things and looked at them in00:23:26
a different way from the Polish people00:23:27
but we seem to have seen something there00:23:30
but we wrote a paper in which we00:23:33
speculated on beings from the previous00:23:36
eon communicating with us and the00:23:39
advantage there is that you're looking00:23:42
at the really advanced civilizations00:23:44
real areas you see billions of years ago00:23:47
that they their universe disappeared and00:23:52
then had to come back to a big banks to00:23:55
see those could come through yeah and00:23:57
somehow or another those signals remain00:24:00
it's conceivable I agree it's pretty00:24:02
far-fetched but you know soyeon's how00:24:06
many billions of years are you talking00:24:07
about like that the Big Bang was00:24:08
fourteen billion yes but you see that's00:24:12
way way at the beginning in a sense or00:24:16
it's three-quarters of the way through00:24:17
in another sense00:24:18
depends how you draw the pictures right00:24:20
in a sense of interestingness or in the00:24:25
conformal picture we are already00:24:28
three-quarters of the way through so 1400:24:30
billion to now so we have counted as00:24:33
years you see the trouble is it's a00:24:35
cheat sheet the year count it's as much00:24:39
as you like it depends on on on00:24:41
something else the mass has to fade out00:24:44
and how you measure time is a becomes00:24:47
problematic and it's either infinity00:24:50
you see which isn't much use or you00:24:53
might have different definitions of time00:24:56
which depend on what particle you're00:24:57
using as your clocks and things like00:24:59
that so are you essentially saying that00:25:01
it's entirely possible that we are the00:25:03
furthest in terms of our technological00:25:06
achievement and our understanding of the00:25:08
universe itself it's possible that we're00:25:10
at the front of the line though there00:25:11
might be some other intelligent life00:25:13
forms in the universe but they might be00:25:15
behind us well there would have been I'm00:25:18
not saying they got through you say well00:25:20
maybe they have techniques for getting00:25:22
through but that's that's a bit harder00:25:23
to imagine but maybe information from00:25:27
them to get through and maybe you mean00:25:28
from the previous yes yes oh they might00:25:31
have got through like somehow another00:25:32
survived yes but it would have to be in00:25:35
the form of photons or something yeah no00:25:37
you could it's not I'm talking about00:25:39
ridiculous right speculation encoding00:25:42
information yeah into photons yes yes00:25:45
Wow it's conceivable sure no I don't00:25:47
want to say that I see it happening or00:25:49
anything but it's not out of the00:25:51
question that they could develop some00:25:53
technology which would get information00:25:56
which might be them in some sense across00:26:00
in the form of photons but you're not00:26:02
optimistic about current intelligent00:26:04
life somewhere in the universe not too00:26:07
optimistic just because well maybe it00:26:13
took us a long time to get going because00:26:14
the dinosaurs were there for a while and00:26:16
somebody might have got in there earlier00:26:18
and they're different planets and they00:26:20
could have got there quite ahead of us00:26:22
it's conceivable I'm not gonna rule it00:26:24
out I just not terribly optimistic about00:26:27
it no I think it's worth doing it's00:26:29
worth looking yes but it's not something00:26:31
that you really00:26:32
I'm expected it's not so much I'd be00:26:35
curious certainly then I'm not expecting00:26:37
it I guess00:26:42
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Clips taken from podcasts (in order): #1233 w/Brian Cox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wieRZoJSVtw #1272 w/Lindsey Fitzharris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT48whuAaCw #1255 w/Alex Jones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5yh2HcIlkU #1281 w/Tom Papa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgLAhLzw2s8 #1029 w/Tom Delonge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_3mnJfHzY #1239 w/Travis Barker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf8aG4sK4XE #1279 w/Jessimae Peluso: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf8aG4sK4XE #1280 w/Michael Yo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFlAD18qltw #1216 w/Sir Roger Penrose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEw0ePZUMHA
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