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Holy smokes. Happy uh new year. 2026 is00:02:14
here. We made it. Congratulations00:02:17
everybody. Making it through the longest00:02:19
year on recorded history. I don't know00:02:22
uh if that's true or not, but it is. It00:02:24
has to be. I think when uh scientists go00:02:27
back they will find out that for the00:02:29
first time ever uh one year lasted seven00:02:32
years. Really? Yeah. This hat would be00:02:34
green. This would be a green hat. Uh I'm00:02:37
I'm going for the park ranger look00:02:40
today. Somebody told me almost got in a00:02:43
fight at McDonald's this morning. 6 a.m.00:02:46
is too early to try and fight somebody00:02:47
at McDonald's, but a uh an old man uh00:02:51
tried to fight me because I told him to00:02:53
relax. He was yelling at the single00:02:55
McDonald's worker at 6:00 a.m. that he00:02:58
didn't get his bag of ice quickly00:03:00
enough. And I told him to relax and he00:03:02
freaked the [ __ ] out. So, it's been a00:03:04
good It's been a good morning. But I00:03:06
felt I felt strong in my park ranger00:03:09
outfit. I felt like I was law00:03:11
enforcement at the time. I swear to God.00:03:13
I swear to God it really happened. It00:03:15
was the craziest thing. He got so mad.00:03:18
Hi. >> It must be kind of like what ice must00:03:20
feel like.00:03:22
>> Yeah, [laughter] maybe.00:03:23
He's just screaming. He was screaming00:03:25
and he's like,00:03:26
>> he turned around. He pointed at this00:03:28
lady and he's like, "She's not doing00:03:29
shit." And she was literally helping00:03:31
like these three older gentlemen figure00:03:34
out how to use like the touchcreen cuz00:03:36
McDonald's, she has a touchcreen for00:03:39
older people and that's a problem. And I00:03:41
was like, "Dude, relax. She's working."00:03:43
And he just freaked out and started00:03:44
yelling at me. So anyways, we almost got00:03:47
in a fight this morning.00:03:48
>> Exciting.00:03:50
>> What' you say? That's how to keep things00:03:52
exciting. >> Yeah, it was wild. I hate that more than00:03:56
anything. Everybody knows I can't keep00:03:58
my mouth shut, but I hate when people00:04:00
think they could just yell at the00:04:01
workers for like the a mild00:04:03
inconvenience and uh I never keep my00:04:06
mouth shut. So, that's what happened00:04:07
this morning. Yeah, it's one of those00:04:10
things about certain people who um they00:04:13
um00:04:14
>> say it00:04:15
>> people who are mean with fast food00:04:17
workers or or servers, they irritate the00:04:20
[ __ ] out of me. >> Oh, I thought you were going to say00:04:22
something about me not being able to00:04:23
keep my mouth shut. [laughter]00:04:24
>> Well, I mean that's No, I mean that's00:04:27
that's an I know that.00:04:30
>> Good morning. How was your new year?00:04:33
>> It was quiet. It was fine.00:04:36
>> Quiet. Good.00:04:38
Yeah, it was as exciting as yours. So,00:04:41
uh, neither one of us had plans.00:04:43
>> I know that's crazy. But you did text me00:04:45
about your New Year's kiss. Do you want00:04:46
to tell everybody?00:04:47
>> So dumb. You were so dumb.00:04:50
>> It was very The way Jen explained it, it00:04:52
was very romantic. I was happy for Jen.00:04:54
W Jen in the chat for getting some on00:04:57
New Year's.00:04:59
>> You're so stupid. [laughter]00:05:02
So stupid.00:05:04
>> Anyways,00:05:05
>> so stupid. the stupidest out there. But00:05:09
anyway, um, no, definitely not. So,00:05:12
we've been over this. No, no.00:05:15
>> So, the W's are speaking, Jen. They're00:05:16
happy for you. It's fine.00:05:18
>> That's fine. It's fine. You're just00:05:19
You're just out here lying again in the00:05:21
beginning of the new year. That's00:05:22
>> People are happy. She called me at00:05:24
12:07. I was like, "You'll never you'll00:05:27
never believe what just happened," she00:05:29
said. I said, "What?" You said, "I might00:05:31
be in love."00:05:33
>> Oh, right.00:05:36
All right. Got it. Okay, that's fine. If00:05:38
if that's how we want to start this new00:05:39
year off, that's fine.00:05:40
>> Might as well.00:05:42
>> All right. >> Yeah.00:05:43
>> Right. >> What did you do for What did you00:05:45
actually do for New Year's?00:05:46
>> No, I didn't do anything. Um I don't I00:05:48
don't necessarily like going out when00:05:50
most often that people are out kind of00:05:52
probably drunk driving and stuff like00:05:54
that. So, I I try not to those holidays00:05:56
where people like to be.00:05:57
>> Did you? [laughter]00:05:59
>> Did you stay awake until Sorry.00:06:03
Somebody I don't know if you saw what00:06:05
Chopper said. It just made me laugh.00:06:08
>> I I'll go find it. Did Does Chopper line00:06:10
need to be muted?00:06:12
>> Uh I don't think so. I don't Yeah, I00:06:14
don't think this is directed at you.00:06:16
>> No, it's directed at you. [laughter]00:06:18
>> It's fine. In fairness though, there was00:06:21
um00:06:23
the other day, oh, when when Jay decided00:06:26
to go play with his, you know, MAG of00:06:28
friends, I did tell him uh that to00:06:31
remind him we had a show the next day00:06:32
and he did call me that. So, it's I00:06:37
wasn't lying.00:06:38
>> Wait, what? What are you talking about?00:06:40
I have no idea what you're talking.00:06:41
>> Remember when I messaged you when you00:06:42
were up playing on Admir's Live? I00:06:44
reminded you there shows next thing you00:06:46
called me, Mom.00:06:48
>> Oh, yeah. That's true. I did do that.00:06:49
Yeah.00:06:50
>> Yep. All right. Well, why don't you get00:06:52
the show started? Since, you know,00:06:54
you're out here lying already. Might as00:06:55
well keep going.00:06:56
>> Might as well. All right. Thanks, Jed.00:06:58
Uh, good morning, everybody. Uh, I'm00:07:00
just going to tell you in advance, today00:07:02
is going to be boring for a lot of you.00:07:05
Um, we're going to watch a ton of Jack00:07:08
Smith's testimony. And I didn't clip it00:07:10
because I wanted I want you to watch it00:07:12
with me. I I don't know what I think I00:07:14
watched it on New Year's Day and I had00:07:17
plans and I skipped my plans to because00:07:20
I started watching Jack Smith's00:07:21
testimony and it's [ __ ] incredible.00:07:24
Uh Trump was going to lose both of those00:07:26
cases. He was going to lose the January00:07:28
6th case and he was going to lose the00:07:31
Marago documents case. And when you00:07:34
watch him testify and you hear00:07:36
Republicans attempt and and and give00:07:38
like what their defense would have been,00:07:41
it's it's pretty obvious that uh he was00:07:44
going to lose. And by the way, that's00:07:45
just that uh prosecution is just00:07:47
delayed. If Trump lives through his00:07:49
entire presidency, uh that prosecution00:07:52
can come back. Uh however, I think JD00:07:56
Vance is just going to pardon him on the00:07:57
way out. Uh I I have this sneaking00:07:59
suspicion that uh they'll pull something00:08:01
slick and like Trump will resign and00:08:03
then JD Vance will pardon him or00:08:04
something like that. Or if if JD Vance00:08:07
doesn't win, they'll just do a last00:08:08
minute pardon. They're probably not00:08:10
going to do anything about that. But it00:08:12
was uh it's incredible and it's00:08:14
vindicating and validating and uh you00:08:18
get to watch J or you get to listen to00:08:19
Jim Jordan be speechless which is00:08:22
beautiful. The entire defense is00:08:24
literally just like, "But don't you00:08:25
think it was kind of unfair?" And that's00:08:27
the whole thing. So, uh, Mag is not00:08:30
going to stick around a lot today. It's00:08:32
going to take up 90% of our live. I00:08:35
don't even know if we'll get to Friendly00:08:36
Friday, but this is my Friendly Friday00:08:40
gift. My Friendly Friday gift today is00:08:42
that we are doing an entire show that00:08:44
Mag is not going to want to sit around00:08:46
for. Uh, they need some drama and uh,00:08:49
we're not going to really give it to him00:08:50
today. So, uh, that's my gift to you.00:08:53
Welcome to the new year. It's, uh, it's00:08:55
good to be good to be here. This is00:08:56
going to be our best year yet. Uh, I00:08:59
wanted to show a couple clips just00:09:00
there's some news today. Obviously, mom00:09:02
Donnie was sworn in. I'll I'll play you00:09:04
a couple of clips from that. But, uh, I00:09:06
came across this clip ironically today00:09:09
as MAGA is screaming uh, Sharia law and00:09:14
they are I don't know why all of a00:09:15
sudden today they're like, "We're so00:09:17
[ __ ] today. Look at like you knew this00:09:19
already. You all knew that Manny was00:09:21
going to be sworn in. You should have00:09:23
known he was going to swear in on the00:09:24
Quran. Uh but they held on to all their00:09:27
hot takes till today. And they're00:09:29
talking about the rights being taken00:09:30
away from Americans and Sharia law. And00:09:32
at the same time, we have uh this00:09:35
happening. This is a man named Schlommo00:09:37
Kramer. He is an Israeli man. Uh he owns00:09:41
a company called Ko Networks. Uh he co00:09:43
he co-founded a software company called00:09:46
Checkpoint Software. and uh it is used00:09:49
by our government uh regularly,00:09:51
especially in defense. And here's what00:09:54
he's advocating for this morning while00:09:57
uh his friends are all saying that mom00:09:59
donn is going to take our rights away.00:10:01
And >> I know it's difficult to hear, but it's00:10:03
time to limit the first amendment in00:10:06
order to protect it and quickly before00:10:09
it's too late.00:10:10
>> What do you mean?00:10:11
>> I mean that we need00:10:13
>> son of a [ __ ] video. I'll start it00:10:14
over. Sorry, guys. Thank you. And I know00:10:17
it's difficult to hear, but it's time to00:10:19
limit the first amendment in order to00:10:22
protect it and quickly before it's too00:10:25
late. >> What do you mean?00:10:26
>> I mean that we need to uh control the00:10:30
platforms all the social platforms. We00:10:33
need to stank the h authenticity of00:10:38
every person that00:10:40
>> we need to limit the first amendment in00:10:43
order to protect it. We need to take00:10:45
control of the platforms and then we00:10:47
need to stack rank the authenticity of00:10:50
the people on that app.00:10:54
This is Schlommo uh what's his uh00:10:57
Schlommo Kramer.00:11:00
You if you remember uh Benjamin00:11:02
Netanyahu said this just a couple of uh00:11:04
maybe a month ago said that the most00:11:06
important thing they did was force the00:11:08
sale of Tik Tok to somebody who was00:11:11
friendly to Israel. Am00:11:14
I sure he's not Israeli? I'm certain00:11:16
that he is Israeli. He's definitely00:11:18
Israeli.00:11:19
>> Expresses themselves online and take00:11:23
control over what they are saying based00:11:26
on that ranking. The government should00:11:29
social media. Yeah.00:11:31
>> The government should control social00:11:32
media and take control over what they're00:11:35
saying based on our ranking system.00:11:39
I'm just saying like if we're worried00:11:40
about uh foreign influence, if we're00:11:42
worried about uh if we're worried about00:11:45
people's uh um allegiance to a religion00:11:48
and what that means for rights in00:11:49
America, perhaps the Zionists are a00:11:53
problem. Perhaps.00:11:56
Thanks, Indo. Are you just coming in to00:11:59
get muted today? What are [laughter] you00:12:00
doing?00:12:03
RTP is a girl. Thanks, man. I appreciate00:12:05
that. That's sweet.00:12:07
means I'm pretty. All right. Thank you00:12:09
for that. And uh you using the word girl00:12:11
means you and your friends. That's00:12:13
probably the only way you'd be00:12:14
interested is if I was a young girl. All00:12:17
right. Uh somebody said, "Did I see that00:12:19
Nick Shirley got exposed for being a00:12:21
liar?" Uh it's like you're reading my00:12:23
mind. Here is our next uh clip here.00:12:26
Nick Shirley is a liar. Everybody knew00:12:28
he was a liar. Uh but now it's been00:12:29
confirmed multiple times and he is on he00:12:32
is on a rampage this morning. He is just00:12:34
going through every clip that says his00:12:36
name and saying that like the le the00:12:38
left is just afraid of him because he's00:12:40
telling the truth and they can't prove00:12:41
that he's lying. Here's proof that he00:12:43
was lying.00:12:45
>> This is ABC Learning Center in00:12:46
Minneapolis.00:12:47
>> They have to learn [music] ABC and00:12:49
numbers.00:12:50
>> Director Ahmed Hassan gave WCCCO a tour00:12:52
after finding his daycare in the00:12:54
national spotlight.00:12:55
>> All right, we've arrived to ABC learning00:12:58
center. In a now viral video, right-wing00:13:01
YouTuber Nick Shirley claims nearly a00:13:02
dozen daycare centers in Minnesota are00:13:05
taking public. >> M just go ahead and mute Indo. Just00:13:07
actually block them forever. Just mods,00:13:10
you can just block Indo forever. That's00:13:11
fine. I don't need those people.00:13:13
>> Funds but not providing a service. He00:13:15
says ABC Learning Center is one of them.00:13:17
Knocking on the door in mid December.00:13:19
>> I would like to check a child in a00:13:20
daycare.00:13:21
>> Hassan says his employee didn't respond00:13:23
because Shirley was in a group of about00:13:24
eight people and his staff were00:13:26
concerned about recent ICE activity. Is00:13:28
this daycare committing fraud?00:13:30
>> No, no, no, we're not committing fraud.00:13:32
>> Hassan showed us security footage from00:13:34
the same day Shirley was here. According00:13:36
to the timestamps in the videos, this00:13:38
woman takes a young child into the00:13:40
center at around 9:00 a.m. that day.00:13:42
About 3 hours before Shirley arrives at00:13:44
the door closer to the street. Within00:13:46
the hour after Shirley leaves, a woman00:13:48
arrives at the other door with a00:13:49
stroller. A larger family heads inside a00:13:51
few hours later. Tuesday afternoon,00:13:53
WCCCO found at least a dozen children at00:13:56
ABC Learning Center, which is licensed00:13:58
with the state. Records show Minnesota00:14:00
officials last visited the daycare in00:14:02
November, noting some corrected and00:14:04
ongoing violations related to day-to-day00:14:06
operations, but no record of fraud.00:14:08
>> What did I do? I'm just a typical human00:14:12
being who wants to live and do the right00:14:14
thing. I have kids to feed.00:14:16
>> Um Hassan, the daycare's current owner,00:14:18
believes these latest fraud accusations00:14:20
are political. Both she and Hassan are00:14:22
Somali Americans.00:14:24
>> We pay our taxes. We do whatever we can00:14:27
to be a law obeying citizen. At the same00:14:30
time, when one Somali does something00:14:32
wrong, we all get collective punishment.00:14:36
>> And I appreciate. Thank you for being00:14:37
here, patriots. Um, this is the00:14:39
fragility of MAGA. They want so00:14:42
desperately to believe any negative00:14:45
story that when you fact check the00:14:48
actual story, they change the narrative00:14:51
and say, "You're sticking up for00:14:53
Somali's instead of taxpayers. These are00:14:56
taxpayers, you dumb motherfucker." Did00:14:59
you not just hear her? Everybody here00:15:01
that runs these businesses are00:15:03
taxpayers. And did Nick surely uh00:15:06
provide any evidence of fraud at this00:15:08
center? No. He went there and he said00:15:11
there's no children here. And now00:15:12
they've shown evidence that he said that00:15:14
there were children there. So his only00:15:16
claim was actually that there were no00:15:18
children there. And that's how he was00:15:20
proving fraud. He showed how much money00:15:21
they got and said there were no children00:15:23
here. Well, how much money they got is00:15:25
public record and there were children00:15:27
there. So Patriot, we're we're going to00:15:29
give you a chance here. Uh can you00:15:31
explain to me what I'm getting wrong00:15:33
here? If Nick said that there weren't00:15:36
children there and there are children00:15:37
there and we're correcting that. Can you00:15:39
just explain to us all of us here00:15:41
because we're interested. We would like00:15:42
to know how this means that we're00:15:45
standing up for fraudsters.00:15:47
Who's the fraudster here? Which one of00:15:49
these people was convicted of fraud or00:15:51
has any evidence of fraud?00:15:54
You want to explain that?00:15:58
You do have to talk to me, by the way,00:16:00
or else we get rid of you. We're going00:16:01
to go heavy on the blocks or the mutes00:16:04
today.00:16:06
Uh R.J. can't hit the request button on00:16:08
Tik Tok today. It doesn't work with00:16:10
Streamlabs. You got to go through00:16:11
Discord.00:16:15
No, nothing there. All right, cool. This00:16:17
is this is every Republican today. And00:16:20
this is this is I I think this is one of00:16:22
the really scary things about where our00:16:23
country is is an obvious sto a story00:16:27
that has obvious lies in it being00:16:29
exposed makes Republicans mad at the00:16:32
people who are exposing it.00:16:35
Right? Like that that's the that's my00:16:37
biggest concern in watching all of this.00:16:39
Like I know I knew that they were going00:16:41
to fall for some dumb [ __ ] We've all00:16:43
watched them fall for dumb [ __ ] over and00:16:45
over and over again. The problem that we00:16:47
have now is they have become so lost in00:16:50
the sauce that when the story is00:16:52
corrected, they believe it more and they00:16:54
get even more angry at the people who00:16:56
correct the story. There's real fraud in00:16:59
in uh Minnesota. There's real fraud in00:17:01
every single state and it should be00:17:03
investigated. But Nick didn't cover00:17:05
uncover fraud here. He lied about these00:17:07
people and these people now are all00:17:09
getting death threats and it that00:17:10
doesn't bother any of you. That doesn't00:17:11
bother any of MAGA. That's fine. They00:17:14
deserve their death threats for00:17:15
committing fraud. Yeah, but they didn't00:17:16
commit fraud. There's no evidence of00:17:18
fraud. Oh, now you're standing up for00:17:19
the fraudsters. No, they didn't commit00:17:21
fraud. You have to show evidence of00:17:22
fraud. Nick Shirley showed evidence of00:17:24
fraud. No, he showed that there were00:17:26
children or that there were no children00:17:27
and now we know there were children, so00:17:29
he lied about that. Oh, you're standing00:17:30
up for the fraudsters. And then it's00:17:32
around and around and around and around.00:17:34
They just so desperately want to be00:17:36
angry and act like victims that no00:17:38
amount of correcting this will change00:17:40
that for them.00:17:42
FBI been arresting and prosecuting00:17:44
Minnesota prosters long before next00:17:45
video. Yeah. Tony, exactly.00:17:47
>> Shirley's video now approaching 2.300:17:49
million views on YouTube alone. They say00:17:51
they are getting non-stop phone calls00:17:52
harassing them.00:17:53
>> Uhoh. Sam, we're going to we're going to00:17:54
break all of you guys today. You might00:17:56
not be here for very long. Sam, what00:17:58
evidence did Nick provide of fraud? Can00:18:01
you explain that to me?00:18:04
What's the evidence? Cuz I watched his00:18:06
videos and he holds up a paper that's00:18:08
publicly available that says this is how00:18:09
much money they got. And then he knocks00:18:10
on the door and because nobody answers,00:18:12
he says there's no kids. Where's the00:18:14
fraud, Sam?00:18:19
Isn't it crazy how every [ __ ] day I00:18:22
We just got done explaining exactly what00:18:24
they'll do. We explained that the that00:18:26
Nick lied and they're like, "Oh, so00:18:28
you're covering for fraudsters." And00:18:29
then they just did it immediately.00:18:34
Sam, there were no kids. Sam, are you00:18:36
watching this [ __ ] video? All right,00:18:37
we'll rewind it. Sam, maybe you just got00:18:39
here. We'll rewind the video for you.00:18:40
was in a group of he says ABC Learning00:18:43
Center is one of them knocking on the00:18:45
door in mid December.00:18:46
>> I would like to check a child in a00:18:48
daycare. >> Hassan says his employee didn't respond00:18:50
because Shirley was in a group of about00:18:52
eight people and his staff were00:18:53
concerned about recent ICE activity.00:18:55
>> Is this daycare committing fraud?00:18:57
>> No, no, no. We're not committing fraud.00:19:00
>> Hassan showed us security footage from00:19:01
the same day Shirley was here. According00:19:04
to the00:19:05
>> What's this? Is that a kid?00:19:07
>> Time stamps in the videos. This woman00:19:08
takes a young child into the center at00:19:10
around 9:00 a.m. that day. About00:19:12
>> 3 hours before Nick got there, kids were00:19:14
going in. Here's Nick. You can see00:19:16
obviously at a different entrance, not00:19:18
the entrance where the kids go in.00:19:20
>> 3 hours before Shirley arrives at the00:19:21
door closer to the street. Within the00:19:24
hour after Shirley leaves, a woman00:19:25
arrives at the other door with a00:19:27
stroller. A larger family heads inside a00:19:29
few hours later Tuesday afternoon.00:19:31
>> All right, so there's kids going in.00:19:32
Now, if you want to say, "Oh, that's00:19:33
just that stage." Well, let's see. Were00:19:35
there kids in the daycare on the same00:19:36
day? This is security footage from the00:19:38
same day. Obviously, they're going to00:19:40
blur out the kids' faces. Same day.00:19:41
>> June. >> WCCCO found at least a dozen children at00:19:44
ABC Learning Center, which is licensed00:19:46
with the state. Records show Minnesota00:19:48
officials last visited the daycare in00:19:50
November.00:19:51
>> Sam, where's Sam? Sam, are those kids?00:19:57
>> I need I need you, Sam, to answer this00:19:59
or we got to get rid of you.00:20:00
>> And ongoing violations related to00:20:02
day-to-day operations, but no record of00:20:04
fraud.00:20:05
>> What did I do? Oh, J Mo's doing it, too.00:20:07
J Mo, what? Where's the fraud? We're00:20:09
going to block all you today. You have00:20:11
to tell us what the [ __ ] fraud is.00:20:15
You have to tell us what the [ __ ]00:20:17
fraud is. Nick said the fraud is there's00:20:20
no kids. There's [ __ ] kids. What is00:20:23
the fraud, please?00:20:25
>> I'm just a typical human being who wants00:20:28
to live and do the right thing. I have00:20:30
kids to feed. Umi Hassan, the daycare's00:20:33
current owner, believes these latest00:20:34
fraud accusations are political. Both00:20:36
she and Hassan are Somali Americans.00:20:39
>> We pay our taxes. We do whatever we can00:20:42
to be a law obeying citizen. At the same00:20:46
time, when one Somali does something00:20:48
wrong, we all get collective punishment.00:20:50
>> With Shirley's video now approaching 2.300:20:53
million views on YouTube alone, they say00:20:54
they are getting non-stop phone calls00:20:56
harassing them.00:20:57
>> I was looking for a place for my00:20:58
granddaughter. with many of those calls00:21:00
attached to outofstate phone numbers.00:21:02
>> They normally say, "Uh, knock knock.00:21:06
We're going to come00:21:07
>> uh you going to arrest, you know,00:21:09
something like that."00:21:11
>> Hassan says they turned over attendance00:21:13
record. >> None of them work. They're at work.00:21:16
They're at work. And what do you mean00:21:19
none of them? What do you mean them?00:21:20
Real quick, DMC,00:21:22
what did you mean by none of them?00:21:27
You mean Somali? Are you saying Somali00:21:29
don't work? Did you know that more close00:21:32
to 70% of of the people the Somali00:21:35
residents who are getting some sort of00:21:38
government assistant also uh work00:21:40
full-time?00:21:42
Did you know that? Oh, Somalian. Yeah.00:21:44
Yeah, we get it. It's Somali. It's not00:21:46
Somalian. But did you know that 70% of00:21:49
them that get government benefits also00:21:51
work full-time? You're showing a place00:21:53
of employ. We're showing a place of00:21:55
employment where people are working00:21:56
right now. This is more evidence of you00:21:58
guys only believe what you want to00:22:00
believe in in the face of reality. Like00:22:02
we're showing you kids. This is this is00:22:05
concrete irrefutable evidence that Nick00:22:08
Shirley lied and you'll still leave this00:22:10
going, "Yeah, Nick Shirley told the00:22:12
truth."00:22:15
That's it's be that's that's how do you00:22:17
even argue this?00:22:21
Records to comply with the Department of00:22:22
Homeland Security request. They're now00:22:24
waiting to hear back. CBS News is00:22:26
reviewing records related to the same00:22:28
daycarees, all but two have active00:22:30
licenses. And Aaron, while the active00:22:32
places have violations related to safety00:22:33
or staff training,00:22:34
>> yes, concrete, those are children. The00:22:37
These are children in the daycare. The00:22:39
day that Nick said there were no00:22:41
children at the daycare, this is00:22:42
children at the daycare. That is00:22:43
concrete evidence that Nick surely is00:22:46
wrong. Unless what are Unless What are00:22:47
you saying here? That these are these00:22:50
aren't real children?00:22:53
Afternoon.00:22:58
WCCCO found at least a dozen children at00:23:00
ABC Learning Center.00:23:01
>> No. No. Not only two have active00:23:03
licenses. Want to hear it? Here. Listen00:23:05
to it again. You struggle. You're on the00:23:07
struggle bus here.00:23:08
>> I'm going to come like that.00:23:09
>> They turned over attendance records to00:23:11
comply with the Department of Over00:23:12
attendance records to like00:23:13
>> that.00:23:15
>> Hassan says they turned over attendance00:23:17
records to comply with the Department of00:23:18
Homeland Security request. They're now00:23:20
waiting to hear back. CBS News is00:23:22
reviewing records related to the same00:23:24
daycarees. All but two have active00:23:26
licenses. And Aaron,00:23:27
>> all but two have active licenses. Not00:23:30
only two. So admit that you were wrong00:23:32
about that or you got to go.00:23:36
All but two. And the two that don't have00:23:38
active licenses, there's no evidence00:23:40
that they are operating.00:23:44
We just need we need somebody to tell00:23:47
the truth. And it's not Nick Shirley.00:23:48
And just a reminder that all of this00:23:51
information that Nick Shirley had, those00:23:53
printouts, that was somebody else's00:23:55
reporting. They stole somebody else's00:23:57
reporting. And if you say like, "Oh,00:23:58
well, he took the reporting and he went00:24:00
and knocked on doors." No, that's been00:24:02
done, too. That was done a year ago. We00:24:04
all knew this.00:24:06
We've covered that. I covered this00:24:07
before Nick Shirley covered it. The only00:24:09
reason that you guys Nick Shirley blew00:24:11
up is because00:24:14
immigration. That's why. Because you00:24:16
hate immigrants.00:24:18
That's why00:24:21
because it's all been covered before.00:24:23
You've never seen it before. But why00:24:25
now? It's a hatred of immigrants. It's a00:24:28
it's racism. It's bigotry. It's00:24:31
xenophobia.00:24:32
Every time you guys have an opportunity00:24:34
to show that you're racist and you get00:24:37
to feel justified, you you take the00:24:39
bait. How many like you go on you go on00:24:41
uh Facebook, my my friends that like00:24:43
aren't political, they're all making00:24:44
jokes about fraud. I'm going to start a00:24:47
daycare center. One of my good friends,00:24:49
he runs a solar company and he not good00:24:52
friend, I guess he runs a solar company00:24:54
and he put up like a joking like I'm00:24:56
going to quit this solar. I'm going to00:24:57
quit solar. I found a new business. I'm00:25:00
going to I'm going to uh investig invest00:25:02
in uh daycare centers. I don't have to00:25:05
do any work. He's a He owns his own00:25:07
solar company because he worked for a00:25:09
solar company that went bankrupt for00:25:11
fraud for stealing government money uh00:25:14
setting up like fake accounts and00:25:16
getting checks back from the government.00:25:19
And that's why their company went under00:25:21
it. Massive fraud. It was like $3000:25:23
million worth of fraud from one company.00:25:25
He didn't make any jokes about that.00:25:27
There were no jokes about fraud there.00:25:29
Elon Musk uh did fraud with his solar00:25:31
company. They literally took all this00:25:34
money that they were bringing in from00:25:35
the government. They they gutted Solar00:25:37
City for parts, walked out of there with00:25:39
a profit and left everybody else hanging00:25:42
the bag or holding the bag. Not no00:25:44
comment about fraud there. We did the00:25:47
math the other day. You can go back and00:25:48
watch our show on Wednesday. The amount00:25:50
of money that we lose every single year00:25:52
from corporate fraud and tax fraud is00:25:55
about $700 billion.00:26:00
people like we're talking about. They00:26:01
say that it could be $8 billion in fraud00:26:04
in Minnesota. I've seen no breakdown00:26:06
that gets anywhere close to that number.00:26:07
I think it's going to be hundreds of00:26:09
millions, which again, just to be clear,00:26:11
it's bad. It's a problem. It should be00:26:14
prosecuted. It is being prosecuted. It's00:26:16
was being prosecuted long before Nick00:26:18
Shirley did this uh this episode. But00:26:22
you'll notice that the same people upset00:26:23
at this will never talk about corporate00:26:25
fraud. In fact, if I bring up corporate00:26:27
fraud, I'm going to guess that there's00:26:28
people in the audience right now saying,00:26:30
"So you you just you this fraud's okay00:26:33
because it's smaller." Nope. All fraud00:26:34
bad. All fraud bad. Big fraud bad. Small00:26:39
fraud bad. Lying also bad. Nick00:26:41
Shirley's a liar.00:26:42
>> Well, the All right, moving on. We're00:26:44
not going to spend all day on Nick00:26:45
Shirley because we did I was talking to00:26:46
Ash uh the other day. Ash has helped me00:26:49
do a t-shirt, which I'll we'll roll out00:26:50
here soon. and she was saying that she00:26:52
was listening into into the live and she00:26:54
just like she was laughing at how many00:26:56
times we stopped the live and said fraud00:26:58
is bad. Prosecute fraud. There is fraud00:27:02
in Minnesota. Everybody should go to00:27:04
jail. Because like every five minutes00:27:06
some Republican would be like, "Oh, so00:27:08
you don't care about fraud. Fraud bad."00:27:10
Everybody say it with me together. Fraud00:27:13
bad. Prosecute fraud. Fraud bad.00:27:17
Prosecute fraud. All fraud. We should00:27:19
prosecute all the fraud, big, small, all00:27:22
of it. We should be outraged at all00:27:25
fraud. Perhaps we should be more00:27:27
outraged at big fraud than small fraud.00:27:30
But Republicans only mad about smaller00:27:32
fraud because smaller fraud, Somali00:27:34
fraud.00:27:36
Notice none of these Republicans are00:27:37
bringing up that the ring leaders appear00:27:39
to be uh well, the one of the ring00:27:42
leaders is a white woman.00:27:44
You know why this happened? If we're00:27:46
being honest,00:27:48
the Somali people in these communities,00:27:51
including the ones that helped commit00:27:52
fraud, were targeted. You think they00:27:55
came to our country with an00:27:57
understanding of how to commit welfare00:27:59
fraud?00:28:01
You think that's what happened?00:28:04
When you when you look at the people who00:28:06
benefited the most from this, it it00:28:08
keeps being like white people.00:28:11
Keeps being people that looks like look00:28:12
like they were taking advantage of poor00:28:14
communities. That's what all these00:28:15
welfare frauds do. That's what uh that's00:28:18
what uh Rick Scott did in Florida in his00:28:20
company. They prey on uh on poor00:28:23
communities. You know how I know that?00:28:25
Because these types of benefits only go00:28:27
to poor communities.00:28:29
So you find people that that go into00:28:31
these communities and most of the time00:28:33
it's no different than than what we saw00:28:35
in COVID when you saw a bunch of wealthy00:28:37
people buying up doctor's offices and00:28:39
dentist offices. And then when the00:28:41
dentist offices aren't pulling enough uh00:28:43
capital, they they cut back on staffing,00:28:46
they cut back on hours, they cut back on00:28:48
services because they care about making00:28:50
their money first before protecting00:28:52
people. And that's what happens in all00:28:53
of these fraud schemes. It is a real00:28:56
problem. It's one more reason why the00:28:58
government shouldn't be privatizing all00:29:01
of this stuff. We shouldn't be00:29:03
privatizing like the the grant process.00:29:06
You shouldn't you shouldn't have people00:29:08
who are paid to go and and and write uh00:29:11
grant proposals that then get to like00:29:14
get a a portion off the top to write00:29:16
those grant proposals. There's a ton of00:29:18
fraud in uh in getting government00:29:20
contracts including in Medicare, uh00:29:23
Social Security, Medicaid. These frauds00:29:26
are rampant, but it seems like the only00:29:29
time this version of of MAGA cares is00:29:32
when it's immigrants.00:29:35
A lot of these imagine some of these00:29:37
people that like they have a daycare00:29:39
that they're going to now. And these00:29:40
daycarees are in in good standing.00:29:42
Again, like you said, out of those00:29:43
daycarees that Nick Shirley went to, all00:29:45
of them have active licenses. A a00:29:48
handful of them have violations, but the00:29:50
violations are just like I I know I I00:29:53
talked about one the other day. It was00:29:54
like a crib. The the person that had the00:29:56
daycare, there was a crib and you have00:29:57
to keep the warranty information on the00:29:59
crib, like the paperwork for the00:30:01
warranty, or else it falls out of uh or00:30:04
it falls under the category of a00:30:05
violation. And when you go and you look00:30:07
through their violations, like there00:30:08
were two, one of them was uh something00:30:11
about like a a sink and the other one00:30:14
was just like uh they didn't keep proper00:30:16
documentation for the warranty for a00:30:18
crib.00:30:20
So again, I'm fine with fraud. I'm fine00:30:23
with Nick Shirley doing investigative00:30:24
journalism and finding fraud. The00:30:26
problem is he just kind of like brushed00:30:27
the surface and made a bunch of blanket00:30:29
statements about fraud and apparently00:30:32
Republicans aren't aren't really00:30:34
interested in finding out what the fraud00:30:36
was. Is there fraud? Uh what how they00:30:38
actually perpetrated the fraud. Cuz00:30:40
every time I've asked somebody here what00:30:42
was the fraud that Nick uncovered, they00:30:44
say no kids. And then I show them a00:30:46
video of kids and they're like no,00:30:47
you're just jealous. I don't know what00:30:49
to do with you guys. Uh your brains are00:30:51
broken. But I think there's less of you00:30:52
than than we think. Um00:30:57
Oh, here was from the quality laring00:30:59
center.00:31:01
Uh just just one more. This is from the00:31:03
same00:31:05
Wait,00:31:08
what happened? Does that link00:31:11
see this link broke?00:31:13
Oh yeah, here you go.00:31:18
>> Was quality learning center. The people00:31:20
operating it would not speak with us,00:31:23
but we did talk to a mother dropping off00:31:25
her kids.00:31:27
>> I take my kids here 2:00 to 10. Yeah,00:31:30
there's a lot of kids inside.00:31:32
>> We spoke with another woman who says she00:31:34
owns the building that houses the00:31:36
daycare. She says they've been operating00:31:38
there since 2017.00:31:41
>> New tonight, the child care facility00:31:44
says it's dealing with the fallout of00:31:47
>> No, we're not saying it's fake. Let me00:31:48
help you with this. Yeah. Shirley goes00:31:50
to a bunch of empty dayc carees and you00:31:51
just say it's fake. He went outside of00:31:54
business hours. If you go to a business00:31:56
that is closed, there's not going to be00:31:58
people there. And secondarily, you have00:32:00
no right to enter a daycare. If I if I00:32:03
if somebody showed up with a camera to a00:32:05
daycare my kid was at and they let them00:32:07
in, I would pull my kid from that00:32:08
daycare immediately. You don't get to00:32:10
come in and film my kids at daycare.00:32:13
>> Fraud allegations. The Nakcomomas00:32:16
Daycare Center in Minneapolis says00:32:18
vandals did extensive damage there00:32:20
overnight. They believe divisive and00:32:22
hateful rhetoric toward the Somali00:32:24
community is to blame. We expect to00:32:26
learn some more details tomorrow.00:32:29
Federal Connor, thank you so much.00:32:32
>> There you go. So, that's the evidence00:32:34
that we have so far. Uh what's crazy is00:32:36
that like there's still there's ongoing00:32:38
prosecutions and these prosecutions00:32:40
which have already started when they00:32:42
when inevitably some of these people are00:32:44
found guilty. MAGA will be like see Nick00:32:46
Shirley was right00:32:48
even even though it's not going to be00:32:50
any of these centers that he visited. In00:32:52
order for Nick Shirley to be right, one00:32:54
of these centers is going to have to go00:32:56
down for fraud. If none of these centers00:32:58
he went to went down for go down for00:33:00
fraud, then he was wrong, right? Can we00:33:01
at least agree on that?00:33:06
Check the garbage can. No garbage, no00:33:08
kids. How about Yeah.00:33:11
Desperation, Larry. This You're getting00:33:13
desperate, bud. Good to see you, dude.00:33:17
All right, let's move on from this00:33:19
today. Let's talk about Mom Donnie.00:33:23
Uh Mom Donniey's speech was great if you00:33:25
guys saw it. I'm not going to play a lot00:33:26
of it, but I just wanted to show the uh00:33:28
response.00:33:30
This was I actually I actually made a00:33:32
TikTok about this. this morning. This uh00:33:35
I forget her name. Her name is uh Kaia00:33:38
Willis. She is a contributor at Free00:33:40
Black Thought and the OBJ STD Institute.00:33:43
I'm not sure what I'm not sure what that00:33:45
is. This is a wild take though. This is00:33:48
this is a bad take of the of a lifetime.00:33:51
>> Rugged individualism with the warmth of00:33:54
collectivism. If our00:33:56
>> New York, I promise you do not want00:33:58
this. People are cheering because of a00:34:00
common misconception. A lot of people00:34:01
believe that individualism means00:34:03
isolating yourself, doing things alone,00:34:04
and just hating working with other00:34:06
people. While I think collectivism means00:34:08
working as a team, having strong00:34:09
relationships with your friends and00:34:10
family, and just generally being nice to00:34:12
people. And that00:34:13
>> people think that's what collectivism00:34:14
means because that's what collectivism00:34:16
is. That's why people think that00:34:20
that's the definition of collectivism.00:34:22
Like, let me pull up the the definition00:34:24
here. It's literally what the definition00:34:27
is. And so MAGA is twisting themselves00:34:29
in in pretzels right now redefining00:34:32
words so that they can oppose uh Bomb00:34:35
Donnie collectivism. Uh let me pull this00:34:38
up here.00:34:40
Um00:34:44
a psychological, ethical, and social00:34:46
perspective that emphasizes collective00:34:48
relationship networks in contrast to00:34:50
individualism.00:34:52
>> That all sounds great on the surface,00:34:53
doesn't it? But that's not what these00:34:55
terms mean at all. Individualism means00:34:57
recognizing that people are individuals.00:34:59
It means recognizing that you and other00:35:01
people have your own values, talents,00:35:03
dreams, and personalities. And it means00:35:05
letting >> True true. That's true.00:35:08
>> People live their lives according to00:35:09
those individual traits.00:35:11
>> True.00:35:12
>> As an individualist, you can choose to00:35:13
work as a team to have great00:35:14
relationships with their friends and00:35:15
family. But the thing is,00:35:16
>> and if you choose as an individualist to00:35:20
work with a group of people, that's00:35:24
collectivism.00:35:30
That's that's what that would mean.00:35:33
>> Relationships are chosen based on who00:35:35
they are as people. While collectivism00:35:37
means treating people like NPCs, like00:35:38
cogs in the machine. People are treated00:35:40
and judged based on superficial labels00:35:42
like race, age, income, nationality, or00:35:45
you know, some other fact about them00:35:47
that tells you nothing about who they00:35:49
are as a person.00:35:50
>> That's not collectivism.00:35:52
Yeah, exactly. Bel. so confidently00:35:54
wrong. That's not collectivism. It's00:35:57
also not individualism. It's just what00:36:00
she is calling collectivism.00:36:03
You want to talk about a [ __ ] MPC. By00:36:06
the way, she's clearly reading this.00:36:09
She's clearly just reading this off of a00:36:11
script. These aren't her. This is MPC.00:36:14
>> Now, I know someone's going to come into00:36:15
my comments and say, "But when Mom Nie00:36:16
talks about collectivism, he's just00:36:18
talking about teamwork. Not all that00:36:20
other bad stuff, but let's00:36:21
>> not all that other bad stuff that I just00:36:23
made up. Nothing she said about00:36:25
collectivism fits the definition of00:36:27
collectivism.00:36:29
This is where we're at. MAGA takes a00:36:31
word. But ironically, for the people00:36:33
that are like, "What is a woman?" They00:36:35
sure seem to change words a lot.00:36:37
>> Remember that Manny is a self-proclaimed00:36:39
socialist and social00:36:40
>> he's actually a democratic socialist if00:36:42
we're going to be uh more specific. And00:36:45
he he says that openly. ism encourages00:36:48
teamwork, but with who and based on00:36:50
what? Under socialism, the government00:36:52
chooses your teams, but the government00:36:53
doesn't know who you are. What?00:36:54
>> No, it doesn't. You can work for whoever00:36:58
you want under socialism. You're you00:37:00
just get to own your labor.00:37:03
The government the government doesn't00:37:04
choose who you work with under00:37:06
socialism.00:37:08
Certainly not democratic socialism.00:37:11
There would be no play. What would be00:37:13
what would the democratic part be in00:37:16
democratic socialism if you're not00:37:18
making choices? What's the what's the00:37:20
democratic part of that00:37:23
>> want out of life? So when socialists00:37:25
like mom Donnie make decisions for you00:37:27
or for the good of society, they are not00:37:29
treating you as an individual. They are00:37:31
treating you as a cog in the machine.00:37:33
>> Yes, that's how government works. That's00:37:35
how laws work. You don't write laws for00:37:38
individuals.00:37:40
you write laws for the collective for00:37:44
for everybody.00:37:46
She's just explaining what government is00:37:48
right now00:37:49
>> and therefore they can't make decisions00:37:52
that are best for you and for your life.00:37:53
They don't even know you. I mean, think00:37:54
about it this way. Which sounds warmer?00:37:57
Being surrounded by people who you chose00:37:58
to be in your life because they share00:38:00
your values and make your life better as00:38:02
you try to achieve your goals and your00:38:04
dreams? >> That's collectivism.00:38:06
She just described collectivism again.00:38:08
She's she's incorrectly calling that00:38:11
individualism. This is what she just00:38:13
said is collectivism.00:38:16
Choosing to work together00:38:19
>> or letting some politician determine how00:38:21
you live your life when they have no00:38:22
idea who you are and they're not able to00:38:24
read your mind. Do you prefer?00:38:25
>> That would be autocracy or fascism or00:38:28
authoritarianism.00:38:31
for option two. And don't00:38:33
>> uh Robert, explaining something to a00:38:37
black woman as a white person is not00:38:40
white explaining. Uh it's explaining.00:38:43
It's correcting. Don't try and play00:38:45
identity politics with words that you00:38:47
don't understand. You are allowed to00:38:50
correct. I as a white man am allowed to00:38:53
correct a black woman on her using these00:38:56
words incorrectly.00:38:58
Or are you or are you are you just one00:39:00
of those people who thinks that you00:39:02
can't do that? There's there's it's00:39:05
almost every single term you seem to not00:39:07
understand,00:39:09
>> want to outsource your decisions to some00:39:10
bureaucrat. Congratulations. You're an00:39:12
individualist and Manny is not your00:39:15
friend. Now, I did some research and I00:39:18
found not a lot of people talk about00:39:20
this, but there is a a a government00:39:23
document that was uh that was around it00:39:27
came around in the 1700s and isn't often00:39:31
cited, but it uh and I wish people knew00:39:34
about it. It seems to have got00:39:35
especially like in red states. People00:39:37
don't seem to know what this is, but I00:39:41
found proof that our founding fathers00:39:43
were uh collectivists.00:39:46
I I I found proof.00:39:49
Show it. Let me get the image up here.00:39:55
Share this with your friends, by the00:39:56
way. I don't I don't know why they're00:39:57
not teaching this in school.00:40:00
This it00:40:02
everything's like on Etsy.00:40:07
All right, there we go.00:40:10
Click on it. All right, this is called00:40:13
the preamble to the Constitution. This00:40:16
is crazy. Have you guys heard of the00:40:17
Constitution? It's wild. So, the00:40:19
preamble, it's at the beginning. And it00:40:23
what the preamble does is it tells you00:40:24
like basically like the goals of the00:40:26
document and it lays out what the goals00:40:29
are going to be. Check this out. This is00:40:32
crazy. Who knew our founding fathers00:40:34
were socialist communist scum? We the00:40:38
people of the United States in order to00:40:41
form a more perfect union. What is a00:40:43
union,00:40:46
Maga? What would you call a a definition00:40:48
of a union? How would you define that?00:40:53
Well, the the uh dictionary definition00:40:56
is the action or fact of joining or00:41:00
being joined.00:41:03
How many collectivism? Oh, okay. So, we00:41:06
the people of the United States in order00:41:07
to form a more perfect union, which00:41:10
would be a collective,00:41:13
establish justice. I don't know why this00:41:16
is all [ __ ] up in the writing. Ensure00:41:17
domestic tranquility. So, what are they00:41:20
going to do? Oh, they're going to do justice. So that's, you know, policing,00:41:23
uh, that's going to have like a judicial00:41:24
system, ensure domestic tranquility. So00:41:27
collectively, we're going to have00:41:28
justice and we're going to promote00:41:30
peace, provide for the common defense.00:41:32
That sounds good. We're going to protect00:41:34
each other. We're going to promote just00:41:35
the general welfare. Everybody together00:41:38
generally as a collective. General00:41:41
welfare, not individual welfare, general00:41:45
welfare. And secure the blessings of00:41:48
liberty to ourselves. and oh there's the00:41:50
individual. So they're going to do a00:41:53
collective to make sure that your00:41:54
individual liberties are protected to00:41:58
not only for you but also for your uh00:42:01
posterity.00:42:04
[ __ ] crazy dude. Who knew? Who knew00:42:07
these founding fathers were such [ __ ]00:42:09
commies? Who knew?00:42:12
It's called the United States. It are it00:42:16
it is a group of states that united00:42:19
collectively to form a country and each00:42:23
of those states has their own individual00:42:26
rights.00:42:27
But there is a collective as a union as00:42:31
a country. It's in it's in our founding00:42:34
documents. It's literally in the name of00:42:36
our country. And yet MAGA all day today00:42:39
is going to be like these [ __ ]00:42:41
they hate America. My bad.00:42:45
My my bad, Mom Donnie, for doing exactly00:42:48
what the preamble of the Constitution00:42:50
lays out. He's perhaps the most like00:42:52
he's perhaps the most American mayor00:42:55
we've ever had. By the way, can we also00:42:57
point out that what's happening in New00:42:59
York right now is New York has a00:43:02
criminal mayor, an actual criminal mayor00:43:06
currently who is uh who uses cronyism,00:43:09
who takes bribes, who gives handouts to00:43:12
rich people. He's not a problem. They00:43:15
they want to keep the criminal in. And00:43:16
their other option outside of mom Donnie00:43:19
was a sex pest. A nepo baby sex pest who00:43:23
just gives all the welfare to the rich00:43:25
people again. And Republicans brains are00:43:27
so broken and they've been so00:43:29
conditioned that they think taking the00:43:32
tax breaks away from those rich people,00:43:34
the handouts, taking the handouts that00:43:36
the rich in New York have been getting00:43:38
for decades and giving it instead to00:43:40
poor people is a problem.00:43:43
What the [ __ ] are you guys fighting for?00:43:47
The other thing that sucks is like00:43:48
because of who Mam Donnie is as with his00:43:51
identity uh because he is a he's a00:43:54
practicing Muslim and because he claims00:43:57
to be a democratic socialist. There will00:43:59
be he will be under the greatest00:44:01
microscope of any New York mayor ever.00:44:03
Every time somebody stubs their [ __ ]00:44:05
toe, uh it's going to be headline news00:44:09
for MAGA. And so I want to say we'll get00:44:11
to mom Donniey's speech here in a00:44:12
minute, but I just also want to00:44:14
advocate. If we want people like mom00:44:16
Donnie, all of us have to fight too.00:44:20
You can't we can't sit back while mom00:44:23
Donnie does this. We have to call balls00:44:25
and strikes, but they're going to come00:44:26
after mom Donnie all day long. So even00:44:29
if his programs do work, they're going00:44:32
to find some way to say that the00:44:33
program's not working. And I Mom Donnie00:44:36
is very very aware of that. But I there00:44:38
were just a lot of things that happened00:44:39
at this inauguration I've never seen00:44:41
before and it's it's unbelievable. But I00:44:44
do want to point out before we get there00:44:46
that the Republicans just want you to00:44:48
believe that we hate you and we hate you00:44:52
because of who you are and we want to00:44:53
take away everything you have because00:44:55
they don't have any real arguments.00:44:58
Nobody in the Republican party right now00:45:00
that's get gearing up for the midterms00:45:01
is running on anything other than the00:45:03
libs hate you and they're trying to00:45:05
destroy your country. They don't have a00:45:07
plan to fix any of this. This is Lisa00:45:09
Demouth who's running against uh she's00:45:11
running for governor in Minnesota. Look00:45:13
at this ad.00:45:14
>> Be to be a damn Republican. Oh, what00:45:16
should I wear today? This stupid00:45:18
freaking red hat. Donald Trump's Gustavo00:45:20
is scooping folks up off the streets.00:45:22
>> My country's [music] being stole by00:45:23
fascists and Nazis.00:45:25
>> Enough. I've had00:45:29
>> Those clips were all about Trump.00:45:31
Now listen to what she says. Further00:45:34
proof that this is a cult.00:45:36
>> Enough of the hate and enough of the00:45:39
lies [music] and enough of Tim Walls00:45:41
dividing motans to cover up his00:45:44
failures. Let's be real. Tim Walls00:45:47
[music] doesn't just disagree with us.00:45:49
He hates us. He's more focused on00:45:52
attacking President [music] Trump than00:45:54
on fixing Minnesota.00:45:56
>> Why is that? Wouldn't that be he hates00:45:58
Trump?00:46:00
How come when somebody disrespects00:46:01
Donald Trump or hates Donald Trump or00:46:03
hates on Donald Trump, why do you all00:46:05
take that personally as if they hate00:46:06
you?00:46:08
Distracted driving things you can't.00:46:10
[laughter]00:46:12
>> I grew up [music] right here. Mom worked00:46:14
at a bank. Dad drove a bus. We went00:46:17
[music] to church on Sundays, worked00:46:19
hard. Families were thriving.00:46:21
>> Your dad was a [ __ ] bus driver and00:46:24
your mom was a teller at a bank, it00:46:25
looks like. about if if that's what your00:46:27
mom's job. If you're a bus driver today00:46:31
in uh in Minneapolis, if if you have a00:46:33
two a two income family and one person00:46:36
is a bus driver and one's a teller at a00:46:38
bank, you're not raised in a [ __ ]00:46:39
family. You don't own a house.00:46:43
It the irony of of what she's saying00:46:46
right now, staring into the future, and00:46:48
all she can say is we can't have Tim00:46:50
Walls because he doesn't like Donald00:46:52
Trump. That's an attack on all of us. We00:46:54
believed in Minnesota. Now, too many00:46:58
homes [music] boarded up, too many00:47:00
families living in fear of crime and00:47:02
rising costs. Drugs flooding our00:47:04
streets, taxes through the roof, and a00:47:07
governor more worried about pleasing the00:47:09
far left [music] than doing what's00:47:11
actually right. He blew the surf.00:47:13
>> Wait, you want to point out nose ring?00:47:14
>> Plus, raise taxes, let fraud run wild.00:47:19
He attacked ICE and00:47:20
>> Hey, somebody banned Paul Sal. We're not00:47:23
doing just open racism. You dog [ __ ]00:47:25
piece of garbage.00:47:26
>> Gave free healthc care to illegal00:47:28
immigrants. [music] That's not00:47:30
leadership. That's betrayal. But motans00:47:33
don't give up. We fight for [music]00:47:35
what's right. That's why I ran for00:47:37
school board to give parents a voice.00:47:39
Why I led00:47:40
>> That's why I ran for school board and uh00:47:42
demanded that we take money out of00:47:44
public schools and give it to parents00:47:46
instead.00:47:47
All right. Anyways, that's that's the00:47:49
ads that they're running on now.00:47:51
I love I love I love the MAGA in here.00:47:55
This is so right. Yeah, this is exactly00:47:57
what we're showing you. Like you guys00:47:58
aren't as uh persuaded by facts. It's00:48:01
just all vibes and like victim00:48:03
mentality. The biggest group of victim00:48:06
uh [ __ ] I've ever seen in my life.00:48:09
Ah, they don't like Donald Trump. We're00:48:11
the real victims here.00:48:15
They have They do have to have a gun in00:48:16
every ad. All right, let's get to uh to00:48:19
this before this is from uh CBS, which00:48:23
uh they had to get later. For some00:48:24
reason, CBS didn't include this in their00:48:27
coverage. Barry Weiss says CBS for some00:48:29
reason didn't include this in their00:48:31
coverage of Mom Donnie. I don't know.00:48:33
Maybe you guys can tell me why. He's00:48:35
wearing a a sign here that says, "A Jew,00:48:39
not a Zionist." Can't imagine why Barry00:48:41
Weiss didn't run this. Unlike the00:48:44
Zionist accusations that he's00:48:47
anti-Semitic, no, he's clear in his00:48:50
differentiation between Judaism, the00:48:53
Jewish people, which he supports,00:48:55
respect, and we'll protect.00:48:57
>> Thank you for saying that. I have no one00:48:58
to tr to to thank but Trump for my life.00:49:01
That's true. Uh all of my costs have00:49:03
skyrocketed.00:49:05
That's true.00:49:07
Thank you. Thank you, Donald Trump.00:49:09
Thanks for making all my prices go up.00:49:11
Thank you for increasing the national00:49:12
debt. Thank you for causing and we'll00:49:14
get we'll do this on Monday, but oh, we00:49:16
got a we got nwords in here. Good for00:49:19
you. Uh we uh thank you Donald Trump for00:49:23
creating a national debt uh bigger than00:49:25
any other president in history. Thank00:49:27
you, Donald Trump, for now bailing out00:49:29
your friends as the Federal Reserve is00:49:32
pumping money into these massive00:49:33
companies uh while most of us struggle.00:49:35
Thank you, Donald Trump, for your dog00:49:38
[ __ ] leadership. Uh, I do have nobody to00:49:40
thank but Donald Trump. Thank you.00:49:42
>> Help. And his opposition to the uh the00:49:45
insidious the uh Judaism called Zionism00:49:49
that's unacceptable according to Judaism00:49:52
that kills that that's a deplorable but00:49:55
doing to the genocide in Palestine and00:49:58
causing anti-semitism a divide between00:50:01
Jews and Muslims. He's opposed to that.00:50:04
We as Jews are opposed to that. We we00:50:07
congratulate him. We pray that he should00:50:09
be able to accomplish for the people of00:50:12
New York and as he said around the00:50:14
world, it should be a beacon of light00:50:16
and we should have a free Palestine00:50:18
because of his work.00:50:20
>> A lot of identity politics coming out of00:50:22
you guys today, Maga. A lot of uh a lot00:50:24
of white identity politics, but I don't00:50:26
know why CBS wouldn't air uh Jewish00:50:28
folks uh thrilled to see Mom Donnie as00:50:31
mayor in New York City. I don't know why00:50:33
they would throw leave that part out. Uh00:50:36
let me just give you a couple clips from00:50:37
mom Donnie. I just have two uh two that00:50:39
I thought were really good. Uh first00:50:41
this one00:50:43
will no longer discourage young adult00:50:45
the cost of child care will no longer00:50:48
discourage young adults from starting a00:50:50
family. >> Isn't that what you guys were talking00:50:51
about? What wasn't this part of the MAGA00:50:53
campaign? making sure that young00:50:55
families can uh have the the money00:50:58
necessary to raise a young family might00:51:01
be a uh might be a good thing to be able00:51:03
to access child care if you are a a00:51:06
young family. What if you both work and00:51:09
you want to start a family, but you00:51:11
can't afford to start a family if one of00:51:13
you doesn't work? You both need to work.00:51:15
So, how do you do that? Well, I guess00:51:17
you just don't. Unless Unless maybe your00:51:20
city uses some of that taxpayer money to00:51:22
pay for child care and then you and your00:51:25
spouse can work and somebody can uh take00:51:27
a few hours out of the day and watch00:51:29
your kid and you can raise a family.00:51:32
Seems pretty uh America first. Seems00:51:35
pretty pro- family to me00:51:39
because we will deliver universal child00:51:41
care for the many by taxing the00:51:43
wealthiest few. [cheering]00:51:46
Those00:51:48
in rentstabilized homes will no longer00:51:51
dread the latest rent hike because we00:51:54
will freeze the rent. [cheering]00:51:57
By the way, uh if you remember Vive Rama00:52:01
Swami also talking about the pro running00:52:03
for governor in Ohio right now. He's00:52:05
talking about raising a family and his00:52:08
plan was the exact same thing except he00:52:12
wanted public school teachers to be the00:52:14
ones that are raising your kids. He said00:52:17
instead of daycare, we'll extend the00:52:20
school day an extra 4 hours and then the00:52:22
school teachers can watch your kids00:52:24
while you're both working. The00:52:26
Republican plan is to dump your kids on00:52:28
school teachers who are already00:52:29
underpaid. And mom Donniey's plan is to00:52:32
have daycarees watch your kids for a few00:52:34
hours and it's not going to come out of00:52:36
your pocket. Everybody actually is00:52:38
addressing the same problem. Everybody00:52:39
everybody running for office right now00:52:41
in a as a governor or a mayor is has to00:52:44
figure out this exact same problem. This00:52:45
happens in every single state. Now00:52:47
Montani is saying I think the solution00:52:50
is we need to be able to pay for child00:52:51
care and there's people in this state00:52:53
that have a lot of money who don't pay00:52:55
their fair share of taxes. So, let's00:52:57
take some of the money from them and00:52:58
we'll pay for child care and then00:53:00
everybody can raise a family, not just00:53:02
the rich people.00:53:04
>> Getting on a bus without worrying about00:53:06
a fair hike or whether you'll be able to00:53:09
get to your destination on time will no00:53:11
longer be deemed a small miracle because00:53:14
we will make those buses fast and free.00:53:18
>> Oh no. People might get on a bus and go00:53:21
to work and have free transportation. Oh00:53:23
no. What are we going to do about that?00:53:25
What about those poor billionaires who00:53:27
can't ride off their their yachts00:53:28
anymore? What are we gonna do? He's00:53:32
renting America.00:53:34
>> The cost. >> All right. I loved that one. And then00:53:36
this this is uh00:53:39
this is incredible. This is uh as good a00:53:41
speech as I've ever seen. But this is00:53:43
the part uh Maga you guys can check out.00:53:46
But this is for all of us, myself00:53:48
included.00:53:50
It we're staring in the face right now.00:53:53
the the truth. As as we play clips of00:53:55
mom Donnie, if you're in the YouTube00:53:57
chat or the Tik Tok chat, what you're00:53:59
seeing is non-stop racism, xenophobia,00:54:04
and Islamophobia.00:54:06
I I apologize to everybody who's at the00:54:08
YouTube chat, and mods, you're doing a00:54:09
great job. Uh you can you can mute00:54:11
anybody who's doing uh racist,00:54:14
islamophobic, or xenophobic language,00:54:16
but this is what we're up against. Mom00:54:19
Donnie has really good ideas. The fact00:54:22
that he's a Muslim is going to make it00:54:24
so that millions, and I mean millions of00:54:27
Americans won't give a [ __ ] It doesn't00:54:30
matter how well he does, they won't00:54:32
care. They will demonize him. Every00:54:35
single crime for the next uh is it a00:54:38
four-year term for mayor00:54:41
in New York in New York City?00:54:43
Is that uh is it four years? However00:54:46
long his term is, any crime that is00:54:49
committed by a Muslim in New York City00:54:53
will be directly blamed on mom Donnie.00:54:56
Any white person who has a crime00:54:59
committed against them for the next four00:55:01
years, it will be blamed on mom Donnie.00:55:05
Every single thing that goes wrong in00:55:08
New York City will be a Fox News story00:55:12
and it'll be it'll be the lead story00:55:14
every single day. The billionaires, the00:55:17
ones that he's talking about stripping00:55:19
the power from are in will be fully00:55:22
funding this type of rhetoric. You will00:55:25
see Nick Shirley and his friends in New00:55:27
York City. They'll be going to mosques.00:55:29
They'll be interviewing people about a00:55:31
crime committed against them by a by a00:55:34
Muslim. And it'll be non-stop for four00:55:36
straight years Islamophobia. And it's00:55:39
going to be exhausting and it's going to00:55:41
be infuriating. And all of us are going00:55:44
to feel like we want to quit. Every one00:55:47
of us is going to get to a point where00:55:48
we just have to shut it off. And that00:55:49
that like I'm all for protecting your00:55:52
our mental health, but we have an00:55:54
opportunity right now to call balls and00:55:57
strikes here. when things go well, if00:55:59
these if these uh these things that Mom00:56:01
Donniey's advocating for go well, it's00:56:04
important that we bring that up. If they00:56:07
fail, and they fail because of his00:56:09
policies, it's important that we talk00:56:11
about that, that we learn from it, and00:56:12
that we correct that. And if things are00:56:15
failing or if lies are being told about00:56:17
things that uh they say are failing that00:56:19
are not, we need to address that. There00:56:22
will be people uh there will be a large00:56:24
push to take his city council and fill00:56:27
it with corporatists who will oppose his00:56:29
every move and they will get zero blame00:56:32
for anything that goes wrong in New York00:56:34
City. So just know like this is the00:56:37
start of it. This this xenophobia it's00:56:40
just the start and we're all going to00:56:42
get sick of it. But like that's kind of00:56:44
privilege, right?00:56:46
It it's a it's a privilege to say I00:56:48
can't take this anymore. I'm tuning out.00:56:50
and we don't get that privilege. And for00:56:52
our our uh Muslim uh neighbors in this00:56:56
country, it's important that we stand00:56:57
next to them. It's it's important that00:57:00
we take uh what what happens in New York00:57:03
City and we call balls and strikes and00:57:05
that we give them a fair shot. Um and00:57:08
it's important to be vocal when lies are00:57:10
told about Mom Donnie.00:57:12
I'm not super interested in living in a00:57:15
white nationalist ethnostate. And the00:57:17
the nice thing that we have going for us00:57:19
is that uh not everybody's a [ __ ]00:57:22
idiot. Things aren't going super well in00:57:25
this country. We desperately need a tone00:57:28
shift and we need a policy shift.00:57:30
Nothing that corporate Democrats are00:57:32
offering you is going to fix anything.00:57:34
Nothing that Republicans are offering00:57:35
you is fixing anything. Nothing has00:57:38
gotten better under Donald Trump and his00:57:40
policies. And this idea that somehow00:57:42
this next year in 2026, cutting taxes00:57:45
for rich people is suddenly going to00:57:47
make everything better is absolute uh00:57:50
[ __ ] and everybody knows it.00:57:53
The fear of the fear of mom Donnie and00:57:56
and Democrat uh democratic socialism is00:57:59
rampant. Um and I just I think we need00:58:02
to be like mom Donnie. This is what I00:58:04
loved about what he said. I think he00:58:06
knows that he can't go in there and00:58:08
coast. He can't get elected and then00:58:11
coast. He has to be on every single day00:58:15
and he has to have his foot on the gas00:58:17
every single day. He has to be out in00:58:18
public every single day. He has to be in00:58:20
front of reporters every single day.00:58:23
This is going to be a very very long00:58:25
four years for mom Donnie. But I loved00:58:27
what he said here and then uh we'll move00:58:29
on from mom Donnie.00:58:31
In writing this address, I have been00:58:32
told that this is the occasion to reset00:58:35
expectations,00:58:37
that I should use this opportunity to00:58:40
encourage the people of New York to ask00:58:42
for little and expect even less. I will00:58:46
do no such thing.00:58:48
[cheering]00:58:51
[applause] The only expectation I seek to reset is00:58:55
that of small expectations.00:59:00
Beginning today, we will govern00:59:02
expansively and audaciously.00:59:05
>> We may not always succeed, but never00:59:08
will we be accused of lacking the00:59:09
courage to try. [cheering]00:59:12
To00:59:14
>> Love that. I love that. Uh we're going00:59:18
to move on to Jack Smith here in just a00:59:20
second, but I want to just address uh00:59:22
some of you MAGA folks that are saying00:59:24
that uh I'm I'm bringing up uh bigotry00:59:27
and phobia and racism. Just read the00:59:30
chat. This guy's been in office for one00:59:33
day. For one day and all you're doing is00:59:36
fear-mongering. What do you think phobia00:59:38
is?00:59:40
Phobia is fear. When you say thing, when00:59:42
you're saying the things that you're00:59:43
saying, when you're making these00:59:44
predictions based on fear, that's by00:59:46
definition phobia. Some of For some of00:59:49
you, it's Islamophobia.00:59:51
For some of you, it is a socialism00:59:54
phobia. But my god, I've never seen such00:59:56
a group of whiny little [ __ ] You are00:59:59
the You are the bitchiest group of01:00:01
[ __ ] I've ever seen. Toughen the [ __ ]01:00:04
up. You guys are upset that people might01:00:06
get a free ride to work, that people's01:00:09
kids might that they might have access01:00:11
to daycare. This is what you're01:00:12
fear-mongering against. This will never01:00:15
work. This is going to destroy our01:00:17
country. He's saying that we should have01:00:20
a more equitable future. This will never01:00:22
happen. Yeah, it's phobia. You're just01:00:25
afraid of [ __ ]01:00:27
All right. Uh we're not going to talk01:00:29
about uh M Donnie and Islamophobia01:00:31
anymore. So, for all of uh all of you01:00:34
bigots, uh the time now has come for you01:00:36
to leave. You can stay here. We're going01:00:38
to cover the testimony from Jack Smith.01:00:40
You're welcome to stay, but I'm just01:00:42
just a heads up. Uh we have our own set01:00:45
of rules here. And when you come into01:00:47
this uh to this live, we rule how we01:00:50
please. And we have very very strict01:00:53
immigration standards here. So, if you01:00:55
immigrate into our live today, you will01:00:58
stay on topic. You will not be racist.01:01:00
You will not be xenophobic. You will not01:01:02
be homophobic. You won't be any of the01:01:04
phobics. You won't be bigots. If you01:01:06
refuse to assimilate, we will deport01:01:09
you. First, you're getting a fiveminute01:01:10
view uh mute, then a 24-hour mute. You01:01:13
don't get to stay here if you will not01:01:16
assimilate. You will not stay here and01:01:18
poison the blood of our country. Uh you01:01:21
will not come in here and uh and ruin01:01:23
everything for everybody. So, just we're01:01:25
going to take your own standards uh and01:01:28
the way that you want to protect your01:01:30
very very cool and and very real hot01:01:34
culture and uh we're going to have our01:01:36
own culture here. So, just know that01:01:38
we're going to talk. We're going to01:01:39
listen to Jack Smith uh bury Donald01:01:42
Trump and uh expose that Donald Trump's01:01:44
an absolute criminal and that the01:01:46
Republicans are nothing but a bunch of01:01:48
cowardly little [ __ ] uh hiding behind01:01:51
the speech and debate clause to protect01:01:53
him because all of you were afraid of an01:01:55
80-year-old geriatric uh fraudster. And01:01:59
uh if you don't assimilate, my mods are01:02:01
going to deport you. So, enjoy that. Uh01:02:05
let's get let's get started with uh with01:02:07
this Jack Smith testimony. So what this01:02:09
is is Jack Smith went and testified01:02:12
closed doors in front of Congress. A lot01:02:14
of this stuff like is is off the record01:02:16
and so you'll see I'll have to jump01:02:18
through. There's a lot of stuff that we01:02:20
didn't get. Um he he asked to testify.01:02:24
He was not called before Congress here.01:02:26
He asked to testify and he asked to01:02:29
testify uh publicly and Jim Jordan said01:02:32
no. So, if you're upset that anything uh01:02:35
anything that's being talked about here01:02:37
uh is uh off the record, you have Jim01:02:40
Jordan and the cowardly Republicans to01:02:42
blame. They desperately did not want uh01:02:46
Jack Smith to testify publicly, and they01:02:48
didn't really want these to be released,01:02:50
but this is what they came up with. This01:02:52
was their solution. Jack Smith said, "I01:02:54
will not testify behind closed doors uh01:02:56
unless we release the transcripts01:02:58
publicly and then and the video01:03:00
publicly." So, that's what we have today01:03:02
and we're going to watch it. Uh, let me01:03:04
read some super chats here. I forgot01:03:06
Austin Sophia's earlier. Uh,01:03:09
go. I'm way behind.01:03:12
There we go. She said, "Happy New Year,01:03:14
dear friend." And of course, beautiful01:03:15
Jen. Dollar Train started. D Freezy01:03:17
said, "Happy New Year's to you and Jen01:03:18
and the rest of the RTP crew." Illusion01:03:20
said, "Jack Smith for friendly Friday.01:03:22
Perfect 2026." Axe said, "Happy New01:03:24
Year, Jen. RTP be safe. Wishing you and01:03:26
your family the best." Thank you. This01:03:28
guy Fox said, "And now the admin is01:03:29
using this lie as an excuse to end child01:03:31
care subsidies nationwide." It's the01:03:33
party of family values. Yeah. Uh,01:03:35
Republicans are stripping away money01:03:38
from poor children while mom Donniey's01:03:40
advocating that we take care of poor01:03:41
children. And the Republicans are like,01:03:43
"Yeah, Donald Trump, that's our guy.01:03:45
That's our that's our Christian leader."01:03:47
Uh, Electric Dad said, "Instead of01:03:48
democratic socialists, we should change01:03:50
it into constitutional republic01:03:52
socialists. Then maggots will love it."01:03:54
That's a good point. Uh, Cascus for Life01:03:57
said, "Don't forget about all caps being01:03:59
bannable." That's right. Also, don't01:04:00
write in all caps. Your messages are not01:04:03
any more important than anybody else's.01:04:05
And so, please don't write in all caps.01:04:07
Uh, that's annoying. And mods will mute01:04:08
you for that. Stacy said, "Mom,01:04:10
Donniey's your daddy. Cry harder."01:04:12
Thanks, Stacy. Uh, did I get that one? I01:04:16
think I got that one. And I got this01:04:19
one. Now, Jen's going to uh Jen's going01:04:21
to bother the hell out of you in the01:04:22
chat today because I'm going to get01:04:24
really into this Jack Smith testimony01:04:26
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So, we'll get started now with Jack01:05:02
Smith. And, uh, sorry in advance for Jen01:05:04
bothering you. It's it's my fault that01:05:06
she's going to have to um, guilt you01:05:09
guys into some stuff.01:05:11
All right. Uh,01:05:16
Let's start with Jack Smith's opening01:05:17
here.01:05:19
>> The opportunity to discuss my work as01:05:21
special counsel. I was taught as a young01:05:23
prosecutor to follow the facts in the01:05:26
law and to do so without fear or favor,01:05:30
to do the right thing the right way, for01:05:32
the right reasons. For nearly three01:05:35
decades, I've been a career prosecutor.01:05:38
I've served during both Republican and01:05:41
Democratic administrations. And I've01:05:43
been I'm also going to speed this up a01:05:44
little bit. We're going to go to 1.25.01:05:46
Jack Smith is very, very careful uh with01:05:50
his language. And he speaks very slowly,01:05:52
so we're going to pump that up a little.01:05:55
>> Guided by those principles in every role01:05:57
I've held. I continued to honor those01:05:59
principles when I was appointed to serve01:06:01
as special counsel in November of 2022.01:06:04
The decision to bring charges against01:06:06
President Trump was mine, but the basis01:06:08
for those charges rests entirely with01:06:10
President Trump and his actions as01:06:12
alleged in the indictments returned by01:06:14
grand juries in two different districts.01:06:16
Our investigation developed proof beyond01:06:18
a reasonable doubt that President Trump01:06:20
engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn01:06:22
the results of the 2020 election and to01:06:25
prevent the lawful transfer of power.01:06:26
Our investigation also developed01:06:29
powerful evidence that showed that01:06:30
President Trump willfully retained01:06:32
highly classified documents after he01:06:34
left office in January of 2021, storing01:06:38
them at his social club, including in a01:06:40
ballroom and a bathroom.01:06:43
He then repeatedly tried to obstruct01:06:45
justice to conceal his continued01:06:46
retention of those documents.01:06:49
I remain grateful for the counsel,01:06:51
judgment, and advice of my team as I01:06:53
executed my responsibilities.01:06:55
I am both saddened and angered that01:06:57
President Trump has sought.01:06:58
>> What are the highlights? We're going to01:07:00
watch all of it. LLM,01:07:02
I titled this on Twitch and Tik Tok that01:07:05
this is going to be a boring stream. I01:07:07
expect this to be our least watched01:07:08
stream uh in a long time. I think that01:07:11
the views will drop will plummet here.01:07:13
This is for the nerds today. If you're01:07:14
here for clips, today is not your day.01:07:16
And that's okay. Uh not everybody's a01:07:18
nerd. I'm a nerd. This is me being01:07:20
selfish showing all of this. And I think01:07:22
that maybe a handful of you will want to01:07:24
watch it, too. But we're going to watch01:07:25
this is the rest of the show. Just Jack01:07:27
Smith01:07:29
>> against career prosecutors, FBI agents01:07:31
and support staff01:07:33
simply for doing their jobs and for01:07:35
having worked on those cases. These01:07:38
dedicated public servants are the best01:07:40
of us and they have been wrongly01:07:41
vilified and improperly dismissed from01:07:43
their jobs.01:07:46
I made my decisions in the investigation01:07:48
without regard to President Trump's01:07:49
political association, activities,01:07:52
beliefs, or candidacy in the 202401:07:54
presidential election. We took our01:07:56
actions based on the facts and the law,01:07:58
the very lessons I learned early in my01:07:59
career as a prosecutor. We followed01:08:01
Justice Department policies and observed01:08:03
legal requirements. The timing and speed01:08:06
of our work reflects the strength of the01:08:07
evidence and our confidence that we01:08:09
would have secured convictions at trial.01:08:12
If asked whether to prosecute a former01:08:14
president based on the same facts today,01:08:17
I would do so regardless of whether that01:08:19
president was a Republican or a01:08:21
Democrat.01:08:23
Recent narratives about my team's work01:08:24
are false and misleading, including01:08:26
stories about our collection of toll01:08:28
records. Toll records were sought for01:08:30
historical telephone routing information01:08:32
collected after01:08:33
>> toll records. Uh just so we get some01:08:34
definitions here and they'll cover it01:08:36
later, but toll records are basically01:08:37
are the records that Jim Jordan and the01:08:39
Republicans uh Josh Holly have said the01:08:42
government tapped our phones.01:08:45
Now, you've heard every Republican that01:08:47
had their phone records subpoenaed say01:08:49
that they were being spied on and the01:08:50
government tapped their phones. All a01:08:52
toll record does it it's a call log. It01:08:55
shows the incoming and outcoming call by01:08:58
number. And Jack Smith's going to01:08:59
explain later why they needed those toll01:09:02
uh uh logs and uh and how they got01:09:05
access to those. But when just off the01:09:08
bat, Republicans since this information01:09:12
came out, they know what a toll record01:09:14
is and they've been lying about it. They01:09:16
say that their phones, their emails, and01:09:18
their text messages have been uh tapped01:09:21
and that they've been spied on.01:09:22
Remember, Lindsey Graham said he's going01:09:23
to sue them. It's not it's it's not an01:09:26
invasion of privacy. It was totally01:09:28
above board. It was not against the law.01:09:30
You're allowed to do any of this stuff.01:09:33
>> Calls had taken place identifying the01:09:35
incoming and outgoing call numbers, the01:09:37
time of the calls, and their duration.01:09:39
Toll [clears throat] records do not01:09:40
include the content of calls.01:09:43
Those records were lawfully subpoenaed01:09:45
and were relevant to complete a01:09:46
comprehensive investigation. January 6th01:09:49
was an attack on the structure of our01:09:51
democracy in which over 140 heroic law01:09:54
enforcement officers were assaulted.01:09:56
Over 160 individuals later plead guilty01:09:59
to assaulting police.01:10:00
>> Somebody get rid of party boy video.01:10:01
Dude, I know you want attention, but I'm01:10:02
gonna get we're gonna get rid of you01:10:04
today. It's a 24-hour mute for you. Um,01:10:06
you can come back and be annoying on01:10:07
Monday, but today we're doing this and01:10:09
you're just chatting too much. You're01:10:10
filling up the chat and you're annoying01:10:11
me. So, we'll see you in uh we'll see01:10:13
you on Monday. A day.01:10:16
Exploiting that violence, President01:10:18
Trump and his associates tried to call01:10:20
members of Congress in furtherance of01:10:21
their criminal scheme, urging them to01:10:23
further delay certification of the 202001:10:26
election. I did not choose those01:10:28
members. President Trump did. I hope01:10:31
>> uh good question, Patrick. Were they01:10:32
government phones? Uh some were, some01:10:35
weren't. Uh most of these people have01:10:36
two phones and Jack Smith will explain01:10:38
that later.01:10:39
>> That test that my testimony today serves01:10:41
to correct [clears throat] correct these01:10:43
mischaracterizations about my work. And01:10:45
to that end, I welcome your questions.01:10:50
>> All right. Now, we're going to go first01:10:51
into uh Is he going to do his opening01:10:53
statement? Hold on one second. Yeah.01:10:56
>> Yeah. Uh now, we're going to go into I01:10:57
believe it's Republicans's turn first to01:10:59
question Jack Smith. Here's a couple of01:11:01
things I I want to uh that I noticed01:11:04
going in. And uh I I want to catch your01:11:06
guys' input as well. Uh obviously, super01:11:09
chats are the way that I'm going to be01:11:10
able to do this. If you have something01:11:11
that some context you want to add and01:11:12
you can do a super chat, that's easier.01:11:14
I'm going to try and watch the chat, but01:11:16
it it is hard. Like it there's a bunch01:11:18
of uh garbage in the chat, so I'll try01:11:20
and get it. But the one thing I noticed01:11:21
with Jack Smith, um he's very thoughtful01:11:24
and he's also a prosecutor, one of the01:11:27
best prosecutors this country's ever01:11:29
had, and he has 30 years of experience.01:11:31
So when they're asking him leading01:11:33
questions, he's aware of what they're01:11:35
asking. And the way that he answers, you01:11:37
you'll notice he doesn't ever dodge a01:11:39
question, but he answers the questions01:11:41
completely uh and and thoughtfully. And01:11:44
it is really disarming for the people01:11:47
asking questions cuz this isn't like a01:11:49
government here. This isn't like a01:11:50
typical hearing that you see on TV where01:11:53
each person gets five minutes and they01:11:55
could take that they can control that01:11:56
time completely. They can overtalk the01:11:58
person that's testifying. They can use01:12:00
the whole five minutes just to yell at01:12:02
that person. and they can talk about a01:12:03
completely unrelated subject. In this01:12:05
setting, they they are there only to ask01:12:08
questions and they don't get to cut Jack01:12:10
Smith off from answering the questions.01:12:12
So, it's a it's a different feel than01:12:14
we've seen in other congressional01:12:15
hearings. And you'll see just how weak01:12:18
the Republican arguments are when they01:12:21
don't get to just yell over you and they01:12:23
don't get to just do conspiracy01:12:25
theories. Uh so, that's what that's what01:12:28
I noticed. If you guys notice that too,01:12:29
you may catch some stuff. But the way01:12:31
that Jack Smith articulates his answers,01:12:33
there's01:12:37
>> you just made some pretty definitive01:12:38
statements about, you know, your belief01:12:39
that President Trump was guilty of these01:12:41
um of these charges. Is that correct?01:12:43
>> Yes. I believe we had proof beyond a01:12:45
reasonable doubt in both cases.01:12:46
>> And doesn't the justice manual prohibit01:12:48
prosecutors from asserting that a01:12:50
defendant is guilty of something before01:12:52
a jury makes a determination?01:12:55
>> Uh if when a case is pending? Yes.01:12:57
>> Okay. Okay. And so you think you're01:12:58
you're free you're free from that from01:12:59
the justice manual um rules, you know,01:13:02
once a case is dismissed.01:13:04
>> No, I think >> first question is, do you really think01:13:06
it's fair that you said Donald Trump's01:13:08
guilty? Their their whole defense is, is01:13:11
this really fair you're saying mean01:13:13
things about Donald? That's going to be01:13:15
their whole defense. But that was the01:13:16
first question. Do you really think it's01:13:19
fair that you said Donald Trump, he's01:13:21
the prosecutor. You don't bring a case.01:13:23
You don't go through a grand jury and01:13:25
then take this to court. If you don't01:13:27
believe that you have evidence beyond a01:13:29
reasonable doubt that this person's01:13:31
guilty, that that's his role. He has to01:13:33
do that. He can't bring a case if he01:13:35
doesn't believe that.01:13:37
>> That it's important to state clearly the01:13:40
amount of evidence we had and the basis01:13:42
for why we proceeded. Why we proceeded01:13:44
as we did is because we had a strong01:13:45
case as I set forth in the final report.01:13:48
Um, but your final report makes what01:13:50
seems to be conclusive determinations of01:13:52
President Trump's guilt as opposed to01:13:55
laying out simply the facts and the01:13:56
evidence that you have. I mean, you you01:13:58
draw those conclusions that in your view01:13:59
he's guilty. Is that not the case?01:14:01
>> Well, to be clear, um, the cases were01:14:03
never tried. We were never put to our01:14:04
burden before a jury. Uh, so we didn't01:14:07
conclusively prove it. Uh, the reason01:14:09
the report was written the way it was01:14:10
written, and the reason I said what I01:14:12
just said is because it was our belief01:14:14
uh that if we went to trial, we would01:14:16
prevail. But your your report differs,01:14:18
you know, if you look at special counsel01:14:20
her report and special counsel Mueller's01:14:22
report, um the language that you use and01:14:25
the way you describe the things that you01:14:27
believe President Trump committed, you01:14:28
know, is different. Um you know, her was01:14:31
careful um to use words like01:14:33
>> whoever it was that said there's like01:14:34
you can't deny that the 2020 election01:14:36
was fishy. Stick around.01:14:39
stick around01:14:41
because what you're going to find out is01:14:42
all that stuff that you thought was01:14:43
fishy, uh Rudy Giuliani,01:14:47
uh Kevin McCarthy, every one of these01:14:50
Republicans when they uh met with Jack01:14:52
Smith. They all walked that back. They01:14:56
all said we had no evidence of that.01:14:58
Just so you know. And so I would stick01:15:00
around if I were you. If you're an01:15:01
honest, if you're honest, if you don't01:15:03
want to just keep believing what you01:15:05
believe, Jack Smith's going to tell you01:15:07
what they told you behind closed doors.01:15:09
And by the way, if Jack Smith is lying01:15:11
about any of this, they'll bring him up01:15:13
on perjury charges. So, if you don't see01:15:15
Republicans bringing him up on perjury01:15:17
charges, you're going to have to assume01:15:19
that he was telling the truth here.01:15:22
>> Could find or might.01:15:24
>> Hey, Josh, if it's proven now, how come01:15:26
the Trump ad DOJ hasn't brought charges01:15:28
against anybody?01:15:30
If it's proven, why has Pam Bondi not01:15:33
brought charges against anybody?01:15:36
Think about that.01:15:37
>> At most would likely conclude. Um01:15:39
whereas the language you use is pretty01:15:41
definitive.01:15:43
>> Uh the her report states his uh01:15:46
assessment of the evidence. Mine does as01:15:49
well. And as I said, uh I feel and feel01:15:52
to this day that we had a very strong01:15:53
case. And so I communicated that.01:15:54
>> Okay. But you would agree that it's the01:15:56
role of the jury, not not the special01:15:57
counsel to weigh the facts and determine01:15:59
guilt >> ultimately. Yes.01:16:00
>> Okay.01:16:01
>> Um01:16:03
and then one other thing about you01:16:05
relating to your01:16:06
>> Yes. Trump is still a felon by that01:16:07
logic. Yeah.01:16:08
>> Um and we'll get into this um a little01:16:10
later on, but the toll record subpoenas01:16:12
for members of Congress um you know have01:16:15
some very we have some very serious01:16:16
concerns about acquiring these toll01:16:19
records, you know, relating to uh01:16:21
senators and members of the house. I01:16:22
mean members of the house and the senate01:16:23
have under the constitution to that that01:16:27
you know allows them speech or debate01:16:29
protections um and the toll record01:16:32
subpoenas in our view and if we had to01:16:33
litigate it um you know the house01:16:35
lawyers would take the position that01:16:36
those toll record subpoenas violated the01:16:38
speech or debate protections um and is01:16:41
that something you disagree with?01:16:42
>> Yes.01:16:43
>> Okay. We'll get into that a little bit01:16:45
later. Uh we first wrote to you on01:16:47
October 14th uh inviting you uh to to01:16:50
testify um and then we worked with the01:16:54
Justice Department and your council to01:16:56
make sure you had access to everything01:16:58
you needed to prepare for today. Did01:17:00
that occur? Did you have enough access01:17:01
to the information you needed to01:17:03
prepare? >> Uh I uh yes.01:17:05
>> Okay. So we asked the Justice Department01:17:06
to make all your files available to01:17:08
allow you to go to the Justice01:17:09
Department whenever you wanted to um01:17:11
with your lawyers, whoever you wanted01:17:12
to. And I just wanted to confirm that01:17:14
that you had the opportunity to review01:17:15
whatever you needed in your files before01:17:17
today.01:17:18
>> Uh yes, we we reviewed the files. Okay,01:17:21
that's correct. >> Um there might be an issue with01:17:22
classified materials. We don't intend to01:17:23
ask you anything about anything01:17:25
classified.01:17:26
>> Welcome friends from the Peach raid.01:17:27
Thanks Peach if you're here. And01:17:29
everybody that's uh from the Peach raid,01:17:31
thanks for being here.01:17:32
>> Obviously, if your security clearance is01:17:33
no longer valid that there's an issue on01:17:35
that front, but everything except01:17:37
classified information was supposed to01:17:39
be made available to you. And I just01:17:40
want to confirm that that was the case.01:17:41
I'm not I'm not sure if everything was01:17:43
for example the emails of people on my01:17:45
staff. Uh, I'm not sure I had access to01:17:47
that, but um, we did spend, consistent01:17:49
with what you said, time at the01:17:50
Department of Justice, and we had01:17:52
>> Norm, every day that I do this live,01:17:53
it's 9:30 to noon Pacific Standard Time.01:17:55
You can call in and debate. Not today.01:17:58
Today, this is going to take up the01:17:59
entirety of the show. But, uh, you can01:18:01
schedule a debate if you have somebody01:18:02
who wants to moderate. I'll debate any01:18:04
of this [ __ ] with any of you guys, but01:18:05
uh, we're going to watch the whole thing01:18:07
today. >> The opportunity to to review, uh, files.01:18:10
>> And that access was made available um,01:18:12
early like November 10th if I'm not01:18:14
mistaken. And I I think you guys started01:18:15
reviewing it somewhat shortly01:18:17
thereafter. >> That sounds about right.01:18:18
>> Okay. Um01:18:25
you have referenced um in in your01:18:27
pleadings I believe and also in in you01:18:29
know public statements you've made the01:18:31
um the famous Robert Jackson speech01:18:35
entitled the federal prosecutor that he01:18:37
delivered at the second annual01:18:38
conference of United States Attorneys in01:18:39
1940. You're familiar with01:18:40
>> this is my favorite part. He's just01:18:42
going to read a speech and ask if Jack01:18:43
Smith this was their attempted. Gotcha.01:18:45
Watch how brilliantly Jack Smith handles01:18:47
this.01:18:48
>> The Robert Jackson speech.01:18:49
>> I am. >> Okay. And uh this is01:18:51
>> Oh, LLM. It's not going to be the whole01:18:52
thing. It's It's going to be I'm Good01:18:54
point. I'm just going to cover uh as01:18:56
much as we can till we're done, but I'm01:18:58
going to just show the Republicans going01:18:59
after Jack Smith and then one part of01:19:01
the Democrats questioning towards Jack01:19:03
Smith. So, you're right. It's not the01:19:04
entire thing01:19:05
>> available on the internet. I didn't I01:19:06
didn't make copies for everybody.01:19:07
Everybody can Google it right now as01:19:08
long as your phones are working. Um,01:19:11
and I'm just going to flag some things01:19:13
that Robert Jackson said and just get01:19:15
your reaction to see if you agree with01:19:16
it or not. Um, he says in the second01:19:18
sentence, "The prosecutor has more01:19:20
control over life, liberty, and01:19:21
reputation than any other person in01:19:23
America. His discretion is tremendous."01:19:25
Do you agree with that?01:19:26
>> I agree that prosecutors have a lot of01:19:27
discretion.01:19:29
>> [laughter] >> Um,01:19:31
>> Jackson stated, "While the prosecutor at01:19:33
his best is one of the most beneficient01:19:35
forces in our society, when he acts from01:19:37
malice or other base motives, he is one01:19:39
of the worst." You agree with that?01:19:40
>> I do.01:19:42
>> Thanks, Peach.01:19:45
On page four of his remarks on the01:19:47
penultimate paragraph, um, Attorney01:19:50
General Jackson states, "What every01:19:52
prosecutor is practically required to do01:19:55
is to select the cases for prosecution,01:19:57
and to select those in which the offense01:19:59
is the most flagrant, the public harm01:20:01
the greatest, and the proof the most01:20:03
servant." Would you agree with that?01:20:05
>> Yes.01:20:06
>> If a prosecutor is obliged to choose his01:20:08
cases, it follows that he can choose his01:20:10
defendants. therein is the most01:20:12
dangerous power of the prosecutor that01:20:14
he will pick people he thinks he should01:20:16
get rather than pick cases that need to01:20:18
be prosecuted01:20:20
with the law books filled with a01:20:21
greatest >> that part's important it'll come back01:20:23
when the Republicans are questioning01:20:24
what they're trying to what they're01:20:26
going to try and do is they're going to01:20:27
try and frame Jack Smith as choosing01:20:29
this prosecution that's why they're01:20:31
reading this speech uh it's not going to01:20:33
go well for them they're not going to be01:20:35
they're not going to land any punches01:20:36
there but their whole defense here again01:20:39
is it's unfair they're not going to go01:20:41
after any of his evidence. They're not01:20:42
going to discredit really any of his01:20:44
evidence. They're just going to say,01:20:46
"You didn't like Donald Trump, so you01:20:47
prosecuted him and we're going to prove01:20:49
it." So, that's their their whole01:20:51
attempt here is they want to prove that01:20:53
he just didn't like Donald Trump and he01:20:55
chose this prosecution. And you're going01:20:57
to see it's going to be like pretty01:20:58
equivocal that he didn't choose this01:21:00
prosecution and he wasn't in any place01:21:03
to do that. He wasn't even working for01:21:04
the Department of Justice. Uh they came01:21:06
to him. assortment of crimes, a01:21:08
prosecutor stands a fair chance of01:21:09
finding at least a technical violation.01:21:11
>> This is not a member of Congress. This01:21:12
is one of their attorneys,01:21:14
>> some act on the part of almost anyone.01:21:16
In such a case, it's not a question of01:21:17
discovering the commission of a crime01:21:19
and then looking for the man who01:21:20
committed it. It is a question of01:21:22
picking. >> Good question. What up? Why was the01:21:24
cases thrown out of he did such a great01:21:26
job? They weren't thrown out. Trump01:21:28
became president while both of these01:21:30
cases were still active. um he was able01:21:32
to wait it out and now because he's the01:21:34
sitting president, they can't prosecute01:21:35
him because the Supreme Court ruled that01:21:37
you cannot prosecute a sitting01:21:38
president. Both of these cases were01:21:40
actually still open at the time Trump01:21:42
took office. So, good question, but01:21:46
that's your answer.01:21:47
>> And then searching the law books are01:21:48
putting investigators to work to pin01:21:50
some offenses on him. Do you agree with01:21:52
that?01:21:53
>> Uh I I do. I think yes. Okay.01:21:56
It is here that law enforcement becomes01:21:58
personal and the real crime becomes that01:22:01
of being unpopular with the predominant01:22:02
or governing group, being attached to01:22:04
the wrong political views or being01:22:06
personally obnoxious01:22:08
>> to or in the way of the prosecutor01:22:10
himself.01:22:11
>> Do you agree that that that is a01:22:12
concern? >> Uh these are principles and I agree with01:22:14
these principles. In times of fear or01:22:16
hysteria, political uh racial,01:22:18
religious, social and economic groups01:22:20
often from the best of motives cry for01:22:23
the scalps of individuals or groups01:22:24
because they do not like their views.01:22:28
You agree with that? Yes. He concludes01:22:30
by saying, "The qualities of a good01:22:32
prosecutor are as elusive and as01:22:34
impossible to define as those which mark01:22:36
a gentleman, and those who need to be01:22:38
told would not understand it anyway. A01:22:40
sensitiveness to fair play and01:22:42
sportsmanship is perhaps the best01:22:44
protection against the abuse of power.01:22:46
And the citizen safety lies in the01:22:48
prosecutor who tempers zeal with human01:22:51
kindness, who seeks truth and not01:22:53
victims, who serves the law and not01:22:56
factional purposes, and who approaches01:22:58
his task with humility. Do you agree01:22:59
with that?01:23:00
>> Fully.01:23:01
>> And do you think um during the01:23:03
appendency of your special counsel work01:23:06
that you try to live up to those uh01:23:07
standards?01:23:08
>> I do. Um, was there ever01:23:11
>> I just want to point out that the01:23:13
standards that they're holding him up01:23:14
to, their entire the crux of their01:23:15
argument and how they're going to try01:23:16
and take him down is based on all the01:23:19
things that they just read are not the01:23:20
law. It's based on a speech and they're01:23:22
just asking him uh generally, do you01:23:24
agree with this speech?01:23:26
That's that's what they opened with.01:23:29
That's how weak their argument is. They01:23:31
want to hold him to a standard from a01:23:33
speech. Was there ever a prospect after01:23:37
you were appointed special counsel when01:23:40
you thought maybe you would not bring an01:23:42
indictment against President Trump?01:23:44
>> Absolutely. When I took this case, uh I01:23:46
did not know enough about the facts or01:23:48
the law to have a judgment about whether01:23:50
we should proceed in either case, both01:23:52
cases or neither case. Uh I used my uh01:23:56
time when I was appointed to get up to01:23:57
speed on the facts and the law. Uh but01:23:59
if the facts in the law did not justify01:24:01
going forward in this case, I would have01:24:02
been perfectly comfortable in doing that01:24:04
as I have throughout my career uh in uh01:24:07
cases involving political figures when I01:24:09
was in public integrity and throughout01:24:10
my career. So I did not have a01:24:12
preconceived outcome in mind when I took01:24:13
this job.01:24:14
>> Now you can believe that or not, but01:24:16
this we're talking about this being in a01:24:18
court of law. And so if you're making01:24:20
the claim that he came in with a with01:24:23
the idea that Trump was guilty01:24:25
beforehand, you it would be on you to01:24:27
prove that. So, just keep in mind that01:24:29
while MAGA in the chat are going to say01:24:30
that they believe that he had this01:24:32
agenda, you would have to prove that.01:24:34
And it also believing that Trump is01:24:36
guilty coming into this wouldn't change01:24:39
anything. He actually can believe that.01:24:42
He's saying that he didn't, but he could01:24:44
if he wanted to. He could still01:24:45
prosecute the case and the case still01:24:47
has to win on merits. But that's how01:24:49
pathetic there that's how pathetic the01:24:51
uh this entire line of questioning is.01:24:54
They just wanted to somehow prove bias01:24:56
which wouldn't hold up in a court of01:24:58
law.01:25:00
>> Was there any point where where you and01:25:02
your your prosecutors uh that formed01:25:04
your team um debated not bringing01:25:06
charges against the president?01:25:08
>> Of course. I mean that that was that is01:25:10
the the process of being prosecutor is01:25:12
>> actually Chuck, you do have to prove the01:25:13
obvious in court. Uh for [ __ ] like01:25:16
you who just go on vibes. Uh yeah, you01:25:18
just believe what you want. But in01:25:19
court, you can't just be like, "I01:25:20
believe it." And the judge is like, "Ah,01:25:21
[ __ ] You believe it?" All right. you01:25:23
are analyzing evidence. You're01:25:24
collecting facts and uh you're debating01:25:27
uh whether it's what the facts mean, the01:25:29
inferences to be drawn from the facts or01:25:30
debating uh what the law is and uh01:25:33
whether uh you can prove what you think01:25:35
is happening here or not. And so that01:25:36
was a continual process uh to decide if01:25:39
in fact we could uh go forward and again01:25:41
just to be clear that is a process that01:25:44
I have undergone uh with uh in my career01:25:47
personally and with prosecutors I01:25:48
supervised.01:25:50
When was the decision made that you01:25:52
believed you needed to move forward with01:25:53
with both indictments both in in Florida01:25:55
and DC?01:25:57
>> Uh well, so the decision wasn't made at01:26:00
the same time.01:26:01
>> Another tricky thing they try and do is01:26:02
they try and they try and trap him a01:26:04
bunch of times to get him to say that uh01:26:06
to lump these two cases together and say01:26:09
that like he was just always going to01:26:10
prosecute Trump. He's 50 miles ahead of01:26:12
them. Here when you'll ask how they it's01:26:16
always leading questions. when did you01:26:17
decide to prosecute these two cases or01:26:19
to to bring these two cases forward?01:26:22
He's way ahead of him. He knows what01:26:24
they're doing. He knows that they want01:26:25
him on the record saying like, "Oh, it01:26:27
was this day." And then they're like,01:26:28
"See, how could you possibly have chosen01:26:30
to do both cases on the same day?" He's01:26:32
just so far ahead of them.01:26:34
>> The best of my recollection, in both01:26:36
cases, the final decision was shortly01:26:38
before we saw an indictment.01:26:39
>> Okay. In June of 2023, you had a meeting01:26:42
uh with the attorney general to present01:26:45
um a prosecution memo and basically01:26:47
asking for his uh blessing to to bring01:26:50
the indictments. Is that correct?01:26:52
>> Uh I did we did have a meeting and I01:26:54
think it was around that time. I didn't01:26:56
think about it as uh his blessing. I was01:26:58
presenting what I intended to do and um01:27:00
he had the ability to countermen that if01:27:02
he wanted to. >> Okay. But certainly you couldn't bring01:27:03
an indictment without his authorization.01:27:05
>> He could he could block me from doing01:27:07
that. That's correct. >> Okay. Um, and during that June 2023 um,01:27:11
meeting with the attorney general, uh,01:27:13
would did you guys discuss both01:27:15
indictments, potential indictments, or01:27:18
just just the Florida indictment or just01:27:19
the DC indictment?01:27:21
>> If it was I don't have a specific01:27:23
recollection of dates. Um, and so you01:27:25
can check me on public record, but I01:27:27
believe by late June, the classified01:27:29
documents case had already been01:27:30
indicted. Okay. So it again, this is my01:27:33
recollection, but that would have been a01:27:35
discussion in late June would have01:27:36
likely been about just the elections01:27:38
case if it was about an indictment.01:27:40
>> Okay. And the attorney general in the in01:27:41
the June meeting, it's been reported01:27:43
that he expressed some reservations.01:27:45
>> I do too. The deep state, these01:27:46
Republican deep stators are sweating.01:27:48
They're falling apart because Jack Smith01:27:49
is uh courageous. I agree with that. I01:27:51
like watching the deep state sweat, too.01:27:53
>> About the DC case, is that correct?01:27:55
>> Uh I had several meetings with the01:27:58
attorney general about both cases. uh01:28:00
work hard. He doesn't need evidence off01:28:03
the top of his head. But just so you01:28:05
know, judge uh the judges uh he has lost01:28:09
his classification because he's no01:28:10
longer working the case and uh the judge01:28:13
has sealed most of these uh most of the01:28:17
most of the things that they're asking01:28:19
questions about. And so he has to have01:28:21
this off the top of his head. Uh what01:28:23
you're talking about when you said he01:28:24
doesn't seem to have it off the top of01:28:25
his head, he said dates. I mean, I you01:28:28
think you can remember specific dates01:28:30
that you had specific conversations01:28:32
without like a a journal entry? The only01:28:35
thing specifically that he doesn't01:28:36
remember here is like the dates of01:28:38
conversations. Occasionally, he doesn't01:28:40
remember exactly how many people were in01:28:42
the room with him. Uh, but yeah, that's01:28:44
a crazy that's a crazy standard for you01:28:46
to try and hold there that he would have01:28:48
to remember the exact date of when he01:28:51
had a conversation over there's like a01:28:53
three three-year prosecution. That's01:28:55
pretty crazy. And in those meetings, we01:28:58
regularly discussed legal issues,01:28:59
factual issues, things of that nature.01:29:01
Um, never in those meetings did he uh01:29:04
tell me I couldn't or shouldn't go01:29:05
forward or or should go forward. Um, it01:29:07
was more talking through uh with another01:29:09
experienced lawyer the legal issues uh01:29:11
present in the cases. Uh, as well as if01:29:13
if I was going to go forward, how to01:29:14
best frame those.01:29:15
>> Okay. Coming out of the June meeting,01:29:17
it's been reported that he he asked you01:29:18
to spend some time with the solicitor01:29:19
general to to review um the DC.01:29:22
>> Good point. Yes. On public record.01:29:27
Again, I don't recall specific01:29:28
conversations. What I can share with you01:29:30
is uh we consulted with the solicitor01:29:33
general uh regularly during my time as01:29:35
special counsel. That was a choice I01:29:36
made. Um we wanted to make sure uh not01:29:39
only that we got the facts right, but01:29:41
that we got the law right as well. And01:29:42
so um I I I would be surprised if the01:29:46
first time I consulted with the01:29:47
solicitor general would have been in01:29:49
late June. That would surprise me.01:29:50
>> Okay. But you did have a one-on-one01:29:52
meeting with the solicitor general in01:29:53
person. Uh I've met this01:29:56
>> uh Jack somebody asked is Jack Smith a01:29:58
Republican. He has never had a public um01:30:00
party registration. So don't know01:30:03
>> solicitor general in person. Um my01:30:05
recollection is most often it would be01:30:07
members of my senior staff speaking with01:30:08
her staff about these legal issues. I01:30:10
did have conversations uh with her as01:30:12
well, but um the majority of that was01:30:15
her staff and my staff speaking about01:30:16
this. >> Okay. Um, and as it's been reported, um,01:30:19
the attorney general at the time was01:30:21
concerned that the proposed indictment01:30:24
or the proposed, um, prosecution01:30:27
>> Oh, one other thing I want to add here.01:30:28
Jack Smith is publicly testifying. All01:30:31
of the people that have been complaining01:30:33
about Jack Smith, Jim Jordan, Josh01:30:36
Holly, uh, Kevin McCarthy, they all01:30:40
ignored subpoenas and refused to01:30:42
testify. They are actually currently in01:30:44
open defiance of congressional uh01:30:47
subpoenas. They It was the Republicans01:30:50
who cowardly chose not to testify.01:30:52
Democrats have sat in front of Congress01:30:54
over and over and over again. Jack Smith01:30:56
now is sitting in front of Congress. Uh01:30:58
he demanded that it be public. The01:31:00
Republicans are the only ones who don't01:31:02
want you guys to see this. And it's01:31:03
obvious when you watch the chat why that01:31:06
is. It's because uh Republican voters01:31:08
are just [ __ ] [ __ ] and they want01:31:12
to believe this and this would [ __ ] up01:31:14
the whole narrative. So that's why01:31:16
Republicans have been hiding all of this01:31:17
from you. That's why this was so telling01:31:20
>> plan, you know, may have relied too01:31:22
heavily on statements that the president01:31:25
had made uh and infringed on his free01:31:27
speech if he were going to prosecute him01:31:28
for it. Is that is that fair?01:31:32
>> As I sit here right now, I can't01:31:34
remember specific conversations. I I do01:31:36
remember that we knew that um01:31:39
>> no, as far as we know, they're not01:31:40
indicting Jack Smith. Jack Smith called01:31:42
for this. He said, "I want to come01:31:44
publicly testify in front of you." Uh01:31:46
and he in his opening statement, he01:31:48
talked about that a little bit. It's01:31:49
because he just to defend himself, but01:31:52
also the career prosecutors who have01:31:53
lost their jobs, who are demonized by01:31:55
that thin-kinned little [ __ ] in the01:31:57
White House.01:31:58
>> Sort of first amendment defense would be01:32:00
part of the case. Um and I think um when01:32:02
I mentioned to you earlier about how to01:32:04
frame the case, we wanted to make clear01:32:05
that this was not about um trying to01:32:07
interfere with anyone's first amendment01:32:08
rights that this was a fraud and and as01:32:10
you know under Supreme Court president01:32:12
fraud is not protected by the first01:32:13
amendment. And so uh in my mind it was01:32:15
important to um make that clear in the01:32:17
indictment and that's why when we01:32:19
litigated this issue before the district01:32:21
court um we prevailed. But the01:32:23
president's statements that he believed01:32:25
the election uh was rife with fraud,01:32:28
those certainly are statements that are01:32:29
protected by the First Amendment.01:32:30
Correct.01:32:31
>> Absolutely not. If they are made uh to01:32:33
target a lawful government function and01:32:35
they're made uh with knowing falsity.01:32:37
No, they're not. That that was my point01:32:39
about uh fraud not being protected by01:32:40
the First Amendment.01:32:43
I mean,01:32:44
>> can he say what he wants? Not if it's01:32:46
fraud.01:32:49
Good point there.01:32:52
Republicans are advocating that Trump01:32:54
can just do fraud whenever he wants01:32:55
because free speech. No, you can't do01:32:59
fraud unless unless you guys are pro-01:33:01
fraud now. Are you guys You've been01:33:04
talking a lot about fraud in the chat01:33:05
today. Are you pro fraud now?01:33:07
>> List of disputed elections. I mean, the01:33:09
election of 1800 um 1960 year 2000 where01:33:16
candidates believe they were wronged by01:33:18
the you know because they lost um and01:33:21
there's a long history of of candidates01:33:24
speaking out about they believe there's01:33:25
been fraud, there's been um other other01:33:28
you know problems with the integrity of01:33:29
the election process. And I think you01:33:31
would agree that those types of01:33:32
statements are sort of at the core um of01:33:34
the first amendment rights of a of a01:33:36
presidential candidate, right?01:33:39
Uh there is no historical analog for01:33:42
what President Trump did in this case.01:33:44
Um as we said in the indictment uh he01:33:47
was free um to say that he thought he01:33:49
won the election. He was even uh free01:33:52
>> car says no due diligence or probable01:33:55
cause. It was a three-year01:33:56
investigation. Karen, he got indictments01:33:58
from grand juries after doing his due01:34:00
diligence and presenting evidence of01:34:02
probable cause. What the [ __ ] world do01:34:05
you morons live in? the [ __ ] are you01:34:08
talking about? He's giving you the01:34:10
evidence right now. And the defense from01:34:12
Republicans is other people have01:34:14
question other people have thought that01:34:16
the elections were stolen too and they01:34:18
didn't get in trouble. Correct. Cuz you01:34:19
can say the election is stolen, but you01:34:22
can't commit fraud. That's the01:34:24
difference.01:34:25
>> To say uh falsely that he won the01:34:27
election, but what he was not free to do01:34:29
was violate federal law and use knower.01:34:32
they'll cover that knowingly false01:34:33
statements about election fraud uh to01:34:35
target a lawful government function that01:34:37
he was not allowed to do and that01:34:38
differentiates this case uh from any any01:34:42
past history.01:34:43
>> A lot of these statements though, you01:34:44
know, people come into the Oval Office.01:34:46
I mean, the president isn't conducting01:34:47
his own due diligence. He is receiving01:34:49
people in his office that are telling01:34:50
him these things, whether it be Rudy,01:34:52
>> they're arguing incompetence right now.01:34:54
Now, the Republicans have shifted to01:34:57
it's not Trump's fault. He believed all01:34:59
these people. Do you see how quickly now01:35:01
they're against you? So now you guys are01:35:03
[ __ ] All you MAGA in the chat, you're01:35:05
[ __ ] because the Republican lawyers01:35:08
here are saying it's not his fault that01:35:10
he committed fraud. He believed all of01:35:13
these people. He doesn't do his own due01:35:16
diligence. It's not the president's01:35:18
fault if he brings in random strangers01:35:21
and believes their stories. and and01:35:23
he'll explain how many times Donald01:35:25
Trump uh refused to listen to the people01:35:27
in the room that were telling him the01:35:28
truth and he just kicked him out and01:35:30
kept bringing in more people. But now01:35:31
they're arguing that Donald Trump is01:35:33
incompetent so he couldn't have01:35:34
committed fraud. It's their actual01:35:36
argument. Giuliani, whether it be John01:35:38
Eastman, whether it be Jeffrey Clark, um01:35:41
whether it be Sydney Powell, um and you01:35:44
know, for the most part, he is just01:35:46
receiving this information and um you01:35:49
know, his statements are almost just01:35:50
regurgitating what what what these01:35:52
people have told him. I mean, isn't that01:35:53
the case?01:35:54
>> No. And in fact, one of the strengths of01:35:57
our case and why we felt we had such01:35:59
strong proof is uh our witnesses are not01:36:01
>> That's just one argument. If one of your01:36:03
arguments, Josh, is that the president01:36:05
was too incompetent to figure out he was01:36:08
committing fraud, perhaps he shouldn't01:36:09
be president.01:36:11
>> Be uh political enemies of the01:36:13
president. They were going to be01:36:14
political allies. Uh we had numerous01:36:16
witnesses who would say, "I voted for01:36:18
President Trump. I campaigned for01:36:19
President Trump. I wanted him to win."01:36:21
Uh the speaker of the house in Arizona,01:36:22
the speaker of the house in Michigan. Uh01:36:25
we had an elector uh in Pennsylvania.01:36:27
Neie, he I don't know if you know this,01:36:29
Neie, they have you they they have01:36:32
released their entire case. The reason01:36:34
that they're not showing evidence right01:36:36
now is because there is an order from a01:36:39
Trump appointed judge and she sealed the01:36:42
evidence. So there's most of the01:36:44
evidence they can't talk about. The only01:36:47
evidence they're actually allowed to01:36:48
talk about because of a Republican01:36:51
judge, a Trump appointed judge, sealed01:36:54
all of the evidence. So, they're only01:36:56
allowed to talk about what was publicly01:36:58
available through the January 601:37:00
committee. And there are hours, this01:37:03
goes on for eight hours. There are hours01:37:05
worth of times that are blocked out here01:37:07
where they're talking off the record01:37:09
because they're talking about evidence01:37:11
that isn't public and they won't show it01:37:13
to you. And the only reason they won't01:37:15
show it to you is because Republicans01:37:18
are hiding it from you. That's why that01:37:20
judge could release it. There's there's01:37:22
no reason why the judge wouldn't be able01:37:24
to release that. But if you're upset01:37:26
that they're not showing the evidence01:37:28
here, you can take that up with Trump01:37:30
appointed judge Eileen Cannon and then01:37:33
you can take it up with the Republicans01:37:35
who refuse to allow Jack Smith to01:37:37
testify publicly. This happened a month01:37:39
ago. They just released it now. The01:37:41
people hiding this from you are01:37:43
Republicans.01:37:45
>> Uh who is a former congressman uh who is01:37:47
going to be an elector for President01:37:49
Trump who said that what they were01:37:50
trying to do was an attempt to overthrow01:37:52
the government and illegal. uh our case01:37:55
uh was built on frankly uh Republicans01:37:58
who put um their allegiance to the01:38:01
country before the party. And so um the01:38:03
president got information from people he01:38:05
trusted on other issues. Uh he rejected01:38:08
it whenever it didn't fit um him staying01:38:12
in office. And there was a pattern in01:38:14
our case where uh anytime any01:38:16
information came in that would um mean01:38:19
he could no longer be president, you01:38:20
would reject it. and any theory, no01:38:22
matter how far-fetched, no matter how01:38:24
not based in law, that would indicate01:38:26
that he could, he latched on to that.01:38:28
And we had uh we were confident that we01:38:30
had very strong proof of that pattern.01:38:32
Um he also, I would just add, um very01:38:36
consciously did not try to reach out to01:38:38
the sort of people who have the most01:38:39
expertise on these issues. He reached01:38:41
out to people who he thought could back01:38:43
uh back him up.01:38:44
>> Yeah, that that's >> Yeah, there's uh I've shown you this uh01:38:47
this clip before of uh [ __ ] what was01:38:50
his name? the guy that was Trump's chief01:38:52
of staff for a minute. It was with01:38:53
Mediasan.01:38:55
[ __ ] I'm trying to remember his name,01:38:56
but he said the same thing. He was01:38:58
Trump's chief of staff at this time. And01:39:00
he said the the problem is during the01:39:02
January 6 stuff is Trump took all the01:39:04
people around him who were saying that,01:39:05
"Look, dude, we're looking at the01:39:06
evidence." Bill Barr, his own attorney01:39:08
general, the FBI, the the DOJ, they're01:39:11
all telling him there's no evidence the01:39:12
election was stolen. And so he's just01:39:14
like, "All right, I'm firing you." And01:39:15
then he brought in literally just like01:39:17
people off the streets. He brought in01:39:18
people with no expertise at all. He01:39:20
brought in Mike Lindell and he started01:39:23
listening to only people who would Mick01:39:25
Mulaney. Thank you Johnny Mack. Mick01:39:26
Mulaney is the one that said that and01:39:28
Mick Mulane has been critical about this01:39:29
too. A Republican who's deathly loyal to01:39:31
Donald Trump to this day. He said the01:39:33
real problem with all of this and Mick01:39:35
Mulaney doesn't believe the election was01:39:36
stolen. He just said like Trump wouldn't01:39:39
listen to you if you told him that the01:39:40
election wasn't stolen. He would only01:39:42
listen to you if you said the election01:39:44
was stolen. And it didn't matter how01:39:45
silly your evidence was. you were now in01:39:48
the room and if you disagreed you had to01:39:50
leave. Let's >> be honest, the president doesn't reach01:39:51
out to anyone. People are brought to01:39:53
him. I mean, the you know, he doesn't01:39:55
like the people you mentioned that you01:39:57
were going to call a trial, those01:39:58
aren't, you know, some, you know,01:40:00
Pennsylvania Republican official. I01:40:01
mean, that's not somebody who was in the01:40:03
Oval Office communicating with the01:40:05
president,01:40:06
>> right? >> Well, with respect to the Arizona um01:40:08
speaker of the house, that is someone01:40:10
the president reached out to. Uh he also01:40:12
reached out to governors. He reached out01:40:13
to the governor of Arizona. He reached01:40:14
out and again Republicans, his allies.01:40:17
Um, our case uh was a case in which the01:40:20
president was praying on the party01:40:21
allegiance of people who supported him01:40:23
and these are again the the record is01:40:25
rife with examples of him reaching out01:40:27
to those people, inviting to them to the01:40:28
White House. Another example, sir, is01:40:30
>> it's a strong case when all of your01:40:32
witnesses are Republicans. Republicans01:40:34
who voted for Trump, the one in01:40:35
Pennsylvania, like he mentioned, signed01:40:37
up to be an elector for Trump. Trump01:40:40
won. He's like, I'm going to be an01:40:42
elector for Donald Trump. All of these01:40:44
people were on Trump's side.01:40:47
All of the evidence against Trump, all01:40:48
of the evidence in this case, or at01:40:50
least eyewitness evidence, are01:40:52
Republicans. Not a single Democrat. It's01:40:54
all Republicans.01:40:56
>> Uh the folks from Michigan, he invited01:40:58
them to the White House. They told him,01:41:00
"You lost because you underperformed01:41:03
with educated females." They told him01:41:04
that when he brought them there. Uh and01:41:07
again, our case was filled with examples01:41:09
of that.01:41:10
>> Were you planning on calling John01:41:11
Eastman as a witness?01:41:13
Uh, I do not believe we would have, but01:41:16
we would have welcomed if the defense01:41:17
called him.01:41:18
>> Okay. Um,01:41:19
>> thanks Amber. And guys, but while we're01:41:20
going, uh, just a reminder, we are01:41:22
crowdfunded. If we start at a dollar01:41:23
train, we'll knock out the gift goal. I01:41:24
don't want to stop too much. Uh, but01:41:26
before Jen yells at me, just a reminder,01:41:29
uh, we'll we'll be going for probably01:41:30
another two, two and a half hours. U,,01:41:33
but if you can help us knock out that01:41:34
gift goal, that'd be awesome. Back to01:41:35
Jack Smith. It gets tricky though for01:41:37
the defense to call him because you the01:41:39
people like Eastman and Clark um and you01:41:42
know Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Pal. I01:41:44
mean you know they [snorts] were they01:41:46
were um shrouded by the special counsel01:41:48
as you know co-conspirators one through01:41:49
six um and so they all feared that they01:41:52
were going to be prosecuted if they said01:41:54
anything. Isn't Isn't that fair?01:41:56
>> Well, they were co-conspirators. I can't01:41:58
get into what was in their mind or not.01:41:59
Uh I can tell you some of the01:42:00
co-conspirators met with us in profers01:42:02
and did interviews with us and so um the01:42:04
idea that someone like Rudy Giuliani who01:42:06
sat with a profer for with us um he was01:42:09
available as a witness and we would have01:42:10
welcomed uh President Trump calling him01:42:12
as a witness. Boris Epstein sat for an01:42:14
interview with us we would have welcomed01:42:15
calling him as a witness. Kenneth01:42:17
Chzboro would have welcomed it.01:42:19
>> Uh Natalie said for GOP are so weak they01:42:21
released this on New Year's Eve. Yeah.01:42:23
When everybody wasn't paying attention.01:42:24
That's the other part. The GOP chose to01:42:26
release this on a holiday when nobody01:42:28
was paying attention. They've tried to01:42:30
hide all of this. There's a reason they01:42:32
don't want you to see this. And I I01:42:33
appreciate you, Maggot, that are here. I01:42:34
know this is frustrating. I know you01:42:36
guys are getting very upset about this,01:42:37
but uh yeah, they've done everything01:42:40
they possibly can to not let this go to01:42:42
trial and to hide all this evidence from01:42:44
you.01:42:48
>> Why didn't you charge any of those01:42:49
folks?01:42:50
>> I'm sorry.01:42:51
>> Why didn't you charge any of those those01:42:52
co-conspirators? As we stated uh in the01:42:55
uh in the final report, um we analyzed01:42:59
the evidence against different01:43:00
co-conspirators. Um we uh my staff01:43:04
determined uh that we did have evidence01:43:05
to charge people at a certain point in01:43:07
time. Uh I had not made final01:43:09
determinations about that at the time01:43:10
that President Trump won re-election,01:43:13
meaning that our office was going to be01:43:14
closed down.01:43:15
>> Right. Um you're a you've had a third01:43:18
year career as a prosecutor.01:43:20
>> Why did you charge these people? Because01:43:21
I got fired because the guy I was01:43:23
investigating became president and he01:43:25
got fired all of us so we couldn't01:43:28
prosecute them. That's why01:43:30
>> Yang members, right?01:43:32
>> Yes. >> You prosecuted organized crime members,01:43:34
right?01:43:36
>> Not as much.01:43:37
>> I just want Michael Garrison. Let's just01:43:39
say that what you're saying is true. You01:43:40
said the the evidence is overwhelming,01:43:42
miserable piece of [ __ ] So I'm a01:43:44
miserable piece of [ __ ] The evidence is01:43:45
overwhelming. Every machine's corrupted.01:43:47
The only ones are unable not able to be01:43:49
tested for [ __ ] sake. But even if that01:43:51
were all true, that's not what this case01:43:53
is about. And this is where you guys01:43:55
have a problem. And this is why we're01:43:56
we're playing this. All of that could be01:43:59
true. And Donald that wouldn't matter01:44:01
for this case at all because Donald01:44:03
Trump still committed fraud. It's a it's01:44:06
a fraud case. And it's a and it's an01:44:08
attack against voters. All of that stuff01:44:11
could be true, which by the way, 60 plus01:44:14
cases, Donald Trump tried to prove that01:44:15
in court and lost all 60.01:44:18
They have never proven that all the01:44:20
machines are corrupted. That nobody's01:44:22
ever proven that. In fact, Michael, I01:44:24
kind of think that there is a backdoor01:44:25
into the machines. You and I probably01:44:27
agree on this. In fact, I've seen01:44:28
compelling evidence that there is a01:44:30
backdoor into these machines. However,01:44:33
the existence of a backdoor would forces01:44:36
you to prove it. which is why the same01:44:37
way which is the same reason that places01:44:39
like the Election Truth Alliance are01:44:41
having a hard time proving that uh that01:44:44
uh they cheated in the 2024 election01:44:46
because there are claims that uh01:44:48
Republicans cheated in the 2024 election01:44:51
and they're using that same bit of01:44:52
evidence. But again, that's not what01:44:54
this case was about. If you just01:44:56
listened, you'd figure out what they're01:44:58
talking about here, what the actual01:44:59
crimes were. Stick around. But, you01:45:02
know, surely one one of the, you know,01:45:03
fundamental principles of prosecutorial01:45:06
work is you work from the bottom up and01:45:07
you try to get um as many uh fact01:45:10
witnesses to to work with you. Um and01:45:13
>> no, Larry, now you're lying. Not not all01:45:14
judges said no standing. And what is01:45:16
standing, Larry?01:45:20
If you if you come to a court, you have01:45:22
to show that there is some harm done to01:45:25
you, right? So if you I if if Trump's01:45:29
people are coming and they say that uh01:45:32
they're their harm had been done to them01:45:34
and the judge says what's your evidence01:45:36
of harm and they don't have any evidence01:45:38
which they all said. They're like01:45:40
they're like how do you prove this? Well01:45:41
we don't have any evidence. Do you have01:45:42
any concrete evidence? No. Well then you01:45:44
don't have standing. You have to also01:45:46
understand what standing is Larry. But01:45:48
some of them were dismissed on their01:45:49
merits.01:45:51
They lost all so all these Republican01:45:53
judges many of them Trumpapp appointed01:45:55
judges they were all in on it too. just01:45:57
every judge in the country was in on it.01:45:59
>> Those fact witnesses have um criminal01:46:01
liability and a lot of times those lower01:46:04
fact witnesses, the smaller fish, um are01:46:06
almost always there. They're either01:46:07
prosecuted or they they um are given an01:46:10
immunity because they they fear they're01:46:11
going to be prosecuted. But here you01:46:12
didn't, you know, you kept laser focused01:46:15
only on President Trump.01:46:17
>> Uh two points. um one as I said uh we01:46:21
were considering prosecutions of these01:46:22
people and uh I think um I don't want to01:46:25
say what the ultimate conclusion would01:46:26
have that would have been um but that01:46:28
was something that was being considered.01:46:29
Uh the second thing I think to01:46:31
understand contextually is um this was a01:46:34
case where the issue was how to present01:46:36
it in a concise way. We had so many01:46:38
witnesses again so many witnesses who01:46:40
were allies of President Trump. But01:46:42
>> Jerry, if you're saying how dare I not01:46:43
believe all judges, you don't believe01:46:45
any judges.01:46:48
You you you think all 60 judges lied,01:46:52
all 60 judges cheated. That's a crazy01:46:54
thing for you to believe uh available to01:46:57
us uh to testify. Uh this was not a case01:47:00
where we needed more witnesses. It was a01:47:01
case where we needed to be able to01:47:02
present the case in a streamlined way01:47:03
because there was so much evidence01:47:06
>> in this this book by the Washington Post01:47:08
um reporters on page 310. You you're01:47:11
familiar with this book. Have you read01:47:12
it? This it's called Injustice by um Len01:47:15
and Davis. >> No, I have not read it. Um,01:47:17
>> are you familiar with it?01:47:18
>> I have not seen it. I mean, I saw I saw01:47:20
it came out in the news, but I've not01:47:21
I've not read it.01:47:22
>> Now they're citing a book.01:47:24
Now they're citing a a proTrump book01:47:26
here.01:47:28
>> I take that back. I don't remember if01:47:29
this is the proTrump book or not. A01:47:30
book.01:47:31
>> Did you cooperate with the book? Did you01:47:33
talk to Carolina Graham?01:47:34
>> Uh, they reached out to my council. I01:47:36
did not speak to them.01:47:38
>> And did you ever speak with them during01:47:40
your tenure at the Justice Department?01:47:41
>> No.01:47:43
>> Anyway, they report and you know, these01:47:45
are reporters. They get some things01:47:46
wrong. They called they call01:47:47
>> Dave Chain, tell me what book it is.01:47:49
Dave Chain, what's the name of this01:47:50
book? Cuz you said the book's01:47:51
anti-Trump, but we're about to expose in01:47:53
real time how easy like how uh how much01:47:56
of a cult they are in. Dave's Chain just01:47:58
said it was a it was a anti-Trump book.01:48:01
What's the name of the book, Days Chain?01:48:03
And if you don't answer this question,01:48:04
we have to we have to ban you because01:48:05
we're not going to allow liars in here.01:48:07
We'll wait for just a second while I01:48:08
read Let me read a couple of these and01:48:10
we'll wait for Days Chain. Um,01:48:13
[ __ ] it was over here. Uh, Lisa said,01:48:16
"Thanks for for showing this. This was01:48:17
on my list." Uh, thank you, Jacob,01:48:19
Denise, and Damian, and Lindsay for01:48:22
joining the dollar train. Dais Chain,01:48:25
are you here?01:48:27
What's the name of the book?01:48:30
It's anti-Trump, remember?01:48:35
I don't know how many were Trump judges.01:48:37
I We'd have to look. Oh. Oh, you're01:48:39
looking it up. You're [laughter] looking01:48:40
it up, you know, but now you're looking01:48:42
it up. All right, let us know the name01:48:43
of the book.01:48:44
>> Jordan, the chairman of the Senate01:48:46
Judiciary Committee, they said Speaker01:48:48
McCarthy voted um in favor of the second01:48:51
impeachment. And um I can confirm that01:48:53
it's just laughably um inaccurate. Um01:48:56
and so reporters get things, you know,01:48:58
wrong. [laughter] And so it's01:48:59
>> just the book is laughably inaccurate.01:49:02
Yeah. He just said he hasn't read it. He01:49:04
wasn't on record for it. He doesn't know01:49:06
anything about this book. Nobody from01:49:08
his team. Why are you citing this book?01:49:10
Well, there was a book out there that01:49:12
was wrong. All right, cool.01:49:15
>> Um, if that's the case, um, you know,01:49:18
please, please flag it. But, but in the01:49:19
book on 310, um, the reporters write as01:49:23
each new trunch of information about01:49:24
fake electors came in, members of01:49:25
Smith's team intermittently raised the01:49:27
idea of opening separate case files on01:49:28
Giuliani Eastman and others. Each time,01:49:30
each time, however, Smith dismissed the01:49:32
idea. He said he did not want the office01:49:34
getting bogged down and potentially01:49:35
prosecuting those around Trump.01:49:37
Is that I01:49:38
>> I don't think that's accurate. I I did01:49:40
make the decision that the first case we01:49:42
brought was going to be Donald Trump and01:49:43
I was aware uh that there was evidence01:49:46
against other people. Um but I don't01:49:47
think that characterization is accurate.01:49:49
>> Okay. Um now people with different views01:49:52
than you can say the special counsel's01:49:55
office is only interested in prosecuting01:49:57
President Trump because an election's01:49:59
coming up and he is he's going to be the01:50:00
Republican nominee and the special01:50:02
counsel works for uh Democratic01:50:04
president. The special counsel works for01:50:05
a Democratic attorney general. Um, and01:50:08
so the special counsel's laser focus on01:50:10
President Trump is simply to prevent01:50:12
>> Yeah, that's a good point. He keeps citing the page numbers. Like he's just01:50:15
going with it. I think he thought that01:50:17
they had like talked. One thing that you01:50:19
learn about Jack Smith is Jack Smith01:50:21
wasn't going to the press. He wasn't01:50:23
talking to journalists. He was focused01:50:25
on this prosecution. So even when they01:50:28
find out that Jack Smith and his team01:50:29
had nothing to do with this book, they01:50:32
keep citing this book. By the way, the01:50:34
book is called Injustice. It's by Carol01:50:35
Lenig. I I believe I don't I think it I01:50:38
think it's called Injustice. Uh it's01:50:40
very much an anti-Trump book. Uh but he01:50:44
had nothing to do with it. And they keep01:50:45
citing this book01:50:48
>> from um you know, either being the01:50:50
party's nominee or being a successful01:50:52
party's nominee or at the very least01:50:53
keeping him off the campaign trail. How01:50:54
do you respond to that?01:50:56
>> Uh all of that is false. And I'll say a01:50:58
few things. Uh the first is uh the01:51:01
evidence here made clear that President01:51:04
Trump was by a large measure the most01:51:07
culpable and most responsible person in01:51:09
this conspiracy. The these crimes were01:51:11
committed uh for his benefit. Um the01:51:14
attack that happened at the capital as01:51:16
part of this case does not happen01:51:18
without him. Um the other01:51:19
co-conspirators were doing this for his01:51:21
benefit. So in terms of uh why we would01:51:23
pursue a case against him, uh I entirely01:51:27
disagree with any characterization uh01:51:30
that our work uh was in any way meant to01:51:32
hamper him in the presidential election.01:51:34
Uh I would never um take orders from a01:51:37
political uh leader to uh hamper another01:51:40
person in an election. Uh that's not who01:51:42
I am and I think people who know me and01:51:44
my experience over 30 years uh would01:51:47
find that laughable. So, did you develop01:51:49
evidence that President Trump um if01:51:51
>> this were a boxing match, they'd stop01:51:53
it? Yeah. Thanks, Ray.01:51:56
>> You know, was responsible for the01:51:57
violence at the capital on January 6th.01:51:59
>> So, our our view of the evidence was01:52:01
that he caused it uh and that he01:52:03
exploited it and that it was foreseeable01:52:05
to him.01:52:07
>> But you you don't have01:52:08
>> Okay, so there's the claim. Remember,01:52:10
when when people try and debate this and01:52:11
they say, "Did Trump cause it?" He's not01:52:14
making the claim that Trump told01:52:16
everybody to go to the capital. He said01:52:18
our evidence said that it was01:52:20
foreseeable and that he could What were01:52:22
his exact that he could have done01:52:23
something about it? I can't rewind01:52:24
because this is so long. It's hard to01:52:25
rewind. I go back way too far. But yeah,01:52:28
that he caused it. No, not that he uh01:52:31
but he didn't direct people to do it.01:52:33
>> Evidence that he instructed people to01:52:35
crash and crash the capital. Do you?01:52:38
>> As I said, our evidence is that he in01:52:40
the weeks leading up to January 6th uh01:52:43
created a uh level of distrust. He uh01:52:47
used that level of distrust to get01:52:48
people to believe fraud claims that01:52:50
weren't true. Uh he made false01:52:52
statements to state legislators, to his01:52:54
supporters uh in all sorts of contexts01:52:57
uh and was aware in the days leading up01:52:58
to January 6th that um his supporters01:53:01
were angry when he invited them and uh01:53:04
then he directed them to the capital.01:53:06
Once they were at the capital and once01:53:08
the attack on the capital happened, um01:53:10
he refused uh to stop it. uh he instead01:53:14
issued a tweet uh that without question01:53:18
in my mind endangered the life of his uh01:53:20
of his own vice president uh and uh when01:53:24
the violence uh was going on he had to01:53:27
be pushed repeatedly by his staff01:53:28
members to do anything to quell it. uh01:53:30
and then even afterwards01:53:33
uh he directed co-conspirators uh to01:53:36
make calls to members of Congress,01:53:39
people who were his political allies uh01:53:41
to further delay the proceedings.01:53:44
>> One thing to to point out here is that01:53:46
like we all saw the um well not all of01:53:49
us I guess but we all saw like the J601:53:51
committee and we saw them present this01:53:53
exact evidence. The difference between01:53:55
how this would play out and how it01:53:57
played out with the J6 committee is it01:53:59
wasn't that wasn't a prosecution.01:54:02
It wasn't closed and it allowed all01:54:04
sorts of political spin. So people could01:54:06
come out of that and then you know if01:54:08
you're MAGA you're running into01:54:10
commentators like me and you're and they01:54:12
spin it. The these would have been uh01:54:15
this would have been a jury trial and it01:54:17
would have been closed and they likely01:54:19
they almost certainly would have01:54:20
sequestered the jury. So all the spin01:54:23
that you guys have seen wouldn't have01:54:26
existed. So when you think about the01:54:28
evidence that Jack Smith would have01:54:29
presented to a jury that was likely01:54:31
sequestered, meaning they didn't have01:54:33
access to outside spin, he would have01:54:35
been able to lay out a pretty simple01:54:37
pattern of here's Donald Trump lying01:54:39
about the election. Here's evidence that01:54:41
he knew that he was lying. Here is a01:54:43
list of 20 different Republicans that01:54:45
worked for him that he trusted until01:54:47
they told him the election was stolen.01:54:49
And then he brought in all of these01:54:50
people with no expertise, people like01:54:52
Mike Lindell and Rudy Giuliani and the01:54:55
Kraken. Uh, and he brought them in01:54:57
instead. And then they went out and they01:54:58
tried to pressure other uh other members01:55:01
of the government from other states. And01:55:03
here's here's five uh Republicans who01:55:07
voted for Trump, who were Trump01:55:08
supporters, who say that he yes, he01:55:11
called me and pressured me to do illegal01:55:13
things and I refused to do those illegal01:55:15
things. That's what would have been01:55:17
presented to a jury. That's why he would01:55:19
have won this case. It was it was cut01:55:22
and dry. You just need to prove beyond a01:55:26
reasonable doubt. And what he was saying01:55:27
that he would prove beyond a reasonable01:55:28
doubt is that Trump knowingly lied,01:55:31
created an atmosphere where people01:55:33
believed that the government had been01:55:35
hijacked and they stole an election. Uh01:55:37
he was briefed by his own intelligence01:55:40
agencies that there were people coming01:55:42
on January 6th that were prepared to do01:55:44
violence. And we know that that's true01:55:46
because in the prosecutions of the Proud01:55:48
Boys, we have their actual plan. It's a01:55:50
written down plan of how they were going01:55:52
to not only take over the capital, but01:55:54
other government buildings and how they01:55:56
were going if Mike Pence didn't refuse01:56:00
to certify the election, that they would01:56:02
remove him and somebody else would step01:56:04
in and take his place. I don't remember01:56:06
which senator it was. I I I'm trying to01:56:08
remember if it was uh Grant I don't01:56:11
remember who it was. somebody was going01:56:12
to fill his place. But they all have01:56:14
this written down. This would have been01:56:15
a a home run. It's impossible to01:56:18
convince MAGA that their Lord and Savior01:56:21
did something wrong. So, they just01:56:23
reject all this evidence. But you're01:56:25
watching in real time how this would01:56:26
have played out. And the Trump the Trump01:56:29
defense would have been like, "But Jack01:56:30
Smith didn't like Donald Trump. Look,01:56:33
somebody wrote a book." Okay. Uh did did01:56:35
Jack Smith have anything to do with that01:56:37
book? No. Did you talk to anybody uh for01:56:40
that book? No. Okay. Okay, well then01:56:41
that doesn't work. But what about this01:56:43
speech that a guy wrote? Jack Smith01:56:45
agrees with this speech and he still01:56:46
prosecuted Trump. Who cares? They have01:56:49
not provided any counter evidence at01:56:51
this point. So MAGA in the chat, who01:56:54
gives a [ __ ] what you have to say?01:56:55
Nobody gives a [ __ ] You and the01:56:58
Republicans here aren't presenting any01:57:00
counter data. You just keep going.01:57:01
Everybody knows it was stolen. It's time01:57:04
for some counter data. And we're going01:57:06
to have hours of this. We'll see.01:57:07
Republicans aren't going to bring any.01:57:11
>> Did you you sought gag orders in both01:57:13
the Florida case and the DC case? Is01:57:14
that correct?01:57:15
>> Uh we sought an order in the uh DC case01:57:20
under rule I think it's 57.2. Uh and we01:57:23
did that because uh Donald Trump was01:57:26
making statements that were uh01:57:28
endangering witnesses, intimidating01:57:30
witnesses, endangering members of my01:57:32
staff, endangering court staff. Uh, as01:57:34
you might remember in the uh right01:57:36
around when the indictment was released,01:57:38
he issued a tweet saying, "If you come01:57:40
after me, I'll come after you." Uh, he01:57:42
>> that's a threat.01:57:45
If you say that if you investigate me,01:57:47
we now he says, "Come after me." But01:57:48
it's just an investigation. The01:57:50
president was threatening people. How's01:57:51
that going to play in court?01:57:53
>> Uh, called uh in a tweet, he called uh01:57:56
General Mark Millie a traitor and and01:57:58
mentioned that that what he'd done in01:58:00
olden times, people would be put to01:58:01
death. um as a result of the things he01:58:04
was saying, the judge in this case was01:58:06
put uh uh received file death threats01:58:08
and and with respect to DC uh both the01:58:11
district court and the court of appeals,01:58:13
a panel of judges found, uh that his01:58:16
actions uh were in fact causing what we01:58:19
said they caused. They were causing01:58:20
witnesses to be intimidated and um01:58:22
endangering people. And I believe it was01:58:24
the court of appeals also found that um01:58:27
in addition to intimidating or chilling01:58:29
witnesses who existed um it would chill01:58:32
witnesses who had not yet come forward01:58:33
uh because they'd afraid that they would01:58:35
be next. So yes, we did file that and I01:58:37
make uh I make no apologies for that. I01:58:40
>> mean which witnesses do you think he he01:58:42
he would have intimidated?01:58:44
>> What weapons? So the weapons he'll01:58:45
discuss this later, but there were01:58:47
people that came to the January 6th01:58:48
rally at the Ellipse and they were going01:58:50
through the magnometers. Uh, and because01:58:52
they had weapons, it was turn it was01:58:54
like setting off the magnometers. Uh,01:58:56
and so they stayed outside of the01:58:58
magnometers because they had weapons.01:59:00
Uh, in the Proud Boy uh, in the in the01:59:02
Proud Boys investigation and01:59:04
convictions, by the way, it was proven01:59:06
that they had caches of weapons in uh,01:59:08
hotel rooms outside of DC and they had01:59:12
them there in case they needed to use01:59:13
these caches of weapons.01:59:15
>> Any specific witnesses did you identify01:59:17
for the court? >> Uh, we did a filing. I don't recall the01:59:19
specifics in that filing right now, but01:59:20
I as I said, one of the issues from my01:59:23
perspective was not only the witnesses01:59:24
who he had specifically called out and01:59:27
caused threats to be issued. This01:59:28
phenomena that was found by both courts,01:59:30
uh it was the01:59:31
>> you can go read uh slick go read the01:59:32
Proud Boy prosecutions. You can see01:59:34
where the where the guns were.01:59:37
>> The result of that is that a rational01:59:39
witness who maybe had not come forward01:59:41
uh would be completely afraid to because01:59:42
they would see that they would be next.01:59:44
And I think the courts both courts01:59:45
agreed with that. Um01:59:47
>> well I mean the the the circuit court of01:59:49
appeals ultimately uh slimmed down the01:59:52
gag order. Isn't that correct?01:59:53
>> It it did. Yes.01:59:54
>> Um01:59:55
>> and what was the difference between the01:59:56
gag order you proposed and Judge Chuck01:59:59
didn't agree to and the final gag order02:00:01
that the DC circuit um approved?02:00:03
>> Okay. I I'm going to go on from my02:00:05
recollection. I I know one of the02:00:06
differences was um him making02:00:09
threatening statements towards me02:00:10
personally was no longer um no longer uh02:00:14
was I'm sorry was allowed in the I think02:00:16
in in the district court in our02:00:17
application we thought that shouldn't be02:00:18
allowed. Um I will I will share with you02:00:21
that I told my staff that it was much02:00:23
more important to me that he not be able02:00:25
to issue threats to court staff and my02:00:27
staff than me. And uh so the court of02:00:29
appeals did narrow it in that way. And02:00:31
as I'm sitting here now I I'm not02:00:33
debating you that they narrowed it. I02:00:34
just can't remember these specific02:00:35
details.02:00:36
>> Okay. But the phenomena they they they02:00:38
>> Yes. Look, Enrique Tario, he actually02:00:40
got arrested uh he went to DC like 202:00:43
days earlier at to plan and he got02:00:45
arrested uh I think it was 2 days before02:00:47
the inauguration and he had two02:00:49
highcapacity magazines on him at the02:00:51
time. Uh but again, you can go through02:00:53
and you can look through the Proud Boys.02:00:54
Uh I'm I'm not going to do your homework02:00:56
for you. Just go look it up.02:00:57
>> That the phenomenon I'm describing to02:00:58
you today uh was real. It had real world02:01:00
consequences. Um 18 United States Code02:01:03
1512 deals with tampering with02:01:05
witnesses. Um02:01:08
did you identify any any uh violations02:01:10
of 18 USC 1512?02:01:12
>> We did we did not bring any charges.02:01:14
>> And did the president did you allege02:01:16
that he violated any any terms of his02:01:17
release?02:01:18
>> We did not. >> To help you slick, go look for the02:01:20
testimony of Terry Cummings. He's a02:01:22
member of the uh Oathkeepers.02:01:24
Um so I might Yeah. Oathkeepers. He said02:01:28
that there were two large uh weapons02:01:30
caches in their Virginia hotel room. So,02:01:33
a member of the Oathkeepers actually02:01:34
testified on the record that they had02:01:37
those caches of weapons.02:01:50
I want to turn to the uh the member toll02:01:53
records uh topic. Um,02:01:58
>> Mark, I just gave I told him to look it02:01:59
up and I just gave you the name of the02:02:01
person who testified. What else do you02:02:02
want? You want me to hold your hand and02:02:04
teach you how to use the [ __ ]02:02:05
internet? I gave you the name and you02:02:06
can go read the testimony.02:02:08
>> Difference between a subpoena for toll02:02:10
records um and a 2703D order.02:02:14
>> Uh, well, a subpoena for toll records is02:02:17
is um non-content. Um, doesn't have any02:02:20
content. Doesn't have like a a header of02:02:22
say an email, things of that nature. Um02:02:24
whereas I think a 20 if I'm if I'm02:02:26
correct in the terminology I think a02:02:27
2703D would be regarding emails and02:02:29
would could have information like that02:02:30
>> have content.02:02:31
>> Well at least I again this is my02:02:33
recollection I haven't looked at this02:02:34
issue in some time but I think it means02:02:36
it's not content but it could at least02:02:37
have say the header like of a the02:02:39
message like not not the content of the02:02:41
message but it might might include the02:02:42
header.02:02:43
>> Did you use any 2703D orders on members02:02:45
of Congress or senators or their staff?02:02:49
Uh >> I do not recall that at this time.02:02:53
Did you use any pen registers? Like02:02:55
what's a maybe just walk us through what02:02:57
a pen register is and trap and trace?02:02:59
>> Yeah, my my understanding or my02:03:00
recollection is a pen register a trap02:03:02
and trace is a thing where you're02:03:04
watching who someone's calling going02:03:06
forward. Like so you know if there was a02:03:08
trap and trace on my phone, it would see02:03:11
going forward from today who I called on02:03:13
a pen register. I'm mixing up the02:03:15
terminology, but one is like calls in02:03:16
and the other one's calls out.02:03:17
>> Okay. And did you use any of those02:03:18
techniques on uh members of Congress,02:03:20
senators or their staff? I don't recall02:03:21
anything like that.02:03:22
>> Okay. And when you say you don't recall,02:03:24
it's it's you think the answer is no,02:03:25
but you don't you're not able to give a02:03:27
definitive answer.02:03:28
>> Yeah. I I have nothing in my memory that02:03:30
tells me that we did anything like that.02:03:31
>> Okay. Um and so with the toll record, um02:03:35
so is02:03:36
>> point out that Mag and the chat are02:03:37
being like, "Oh, he doesn't recall.02:03:38
That's proof he's lying." No, it's not.02:03:39
You saying I don't recall means now they02:03:42
can go and they can check and see if any02:03:43
of this happened.02:03:44
>> Relates to members and their staff and02:03:46
senators. It's just the toll records as02:03:47
far as you remember.02:03:48
>> That's my recollection. Okay. I said02:03:49
oathkeepers. I already corrected that. I02:03:51
said uh that it was the Oathkeepers that02:03:53
had the weapons cash, but they were02:03:54
working with the Proud Boys.02:03:56
>> And02:03:57
>> well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to interrupt02:03:58
you. Before I was special counsel, um02:04:01
the um people who were working on one of02:04:04
the investigations did get a search02:04:05
warrant for the cell phone of one02:04:06
Congressman.02:04:07
>> Congressman Perry. Yes, we are very02:04:09
familiar with that. Um02:04:12
>> this is where it gets silly with02:04:13
>> with the Paul record subpoena. Maybe02:04:15
just walk us through like what you get.02:04:17
You get the the um you get the the02:04:21
incoming the telephone numbers that call02:04:23
a particular cell phone, right?02:04:24
>> That's correct.02:04:25
>> And you get the time that call curt02:04:27
>> and you get the um you get the length of02:04:29
time of a call.02:04:31
>> I believe that's correct.02:04:32
>> Okay. And you also get um the list of02:04:35
numbers that the outgoing you get the02:04:36
incoming and the outgoing, right?02:04:37
>> That's correct.02:04:38
>> And is there any other information that02:04:40
the total record subpoenas provide?02:04:45
that that is the the the what I02:04:47
understand is the the major thing you're02:04:49
you're seeking to get with this whole02:04:50
record. >> Okay. Um and when02:04:53
when you get one of these subpoenas, um02:04:55
you just send it to the carrier.02:04:57
Correct. Doesn't involve a judge.02:04:59
>> The subpoena. Yes, that's correct.02:05:01
>> Okay. Um >> doesn't require a judge.02:05:02
>> The only time a judge gets involved is02:05:04
if you're seeking a non-disclosure02:05:05
order. Is that right?02:05:06
>> If it's a subpoena for toll records.02:05:07
That's correct.02:05:08
>> Okay. And do you always seek the you02:05:10
know is it the practice of um of your02:05:12
team to to always seek the NDO?02:05:15
>> Well in this particular case uh there02:05:17
was a grave risk of obstruction of02:05:20
justice um given the obstructive conduct02:05:23
of President Trump as is uh set forth02:05:26
for example in the indictment uh in02:05:27
Florida. Um uh President Trump tried to02:05:31
obstruct that uh case in multiple ways.02:05:34
Um the um as I mentioned earlier um in02:05:37
the litigation we had regarding 57 two02:05:39
[clears throat] uh we had numerous02:05:42
instances of him attempting to uh in our02:05:44
view intimidate witnesses or um keep02:05:46
them from cooperating. And so given uh02:05:49
that um that we02:05:52
>> I'm trying to find the name. Somebody02:05:53
keeps asking who this attorney is for02:05:54
the GOP. I' I'm actually actively02:05:56
googling it. He is a he's always with02:06:00
them. I don't know what his name is. He02:06:02
he was around during the J6 stuff, too.02:06:06
I can't find his name anywhere. Um, so02:06:10
I'm not sure. I'm trying. If anybody02:06:11
finds the name, let me know, but I can't02:06:12
figure out what his name is.02:06:15
>> Um, we did seek uh non-disclosure orders02:06:18
for the toll record subpoenas you're02:06:19
talking about. >> Okay. The um02:06:21
>> Patrick, let me help let me help you02:06:23
here, Patrick, real quick. Nancy Pelosi02:06:25
can't call in the National Guard. And02:06:27
let me It's just this simple. The02:06:28
National Guard in DC is under the02:06:31
control of the Army. The Secretary of02:06:32
the Army at the time was Ryan McCarthy.02:06:35
The the chain of command goes like this.02:06:37
It goes National Guard, Secretary of the02:06:40
Army, Secretary of Defense, President of02:06:43
the United States. The only way Nancy02:06:45
Pelosi could have called in the National02:06:47
Guard is if Donald Trump was02:06:49
incapacitated, Mike Pence was02:06:51
incapacitated, and then she took the02:06:54
role as commanderin-chief.02:06:56
She would have had to be acting02:06:57
president. basically at the time to call02:06:59
in the National Guard. This is a lie02:07:01
that you've been told. And if you have02:07:02
any integrity at all, you're here every02:07:05
day. Google right now, did Nancy Pelosi02:07:09
have the authority to call in the02:07:10
National Guard on January 6th? She02:07:13
didn't. And then you're going to say,02:07:14
"But what about that clip?" Now, I want02:07:17
you to go back and watch that clip and02:07:19
figure out what she's saying. Did she02:07:20
say, "I didn't call the National Guard,02:07:22
or did she say we should have had them02:07:24
more prepared?" And who is she talking02:07:26
about? She's talking about Capitol02:07:27
police, not the National Guard. Part of02:07:30
this testimony from Jack Smith shows and02:07:32
proves that Donald Trump could have02:07:33
called in the National Guard and refused02:07:35
to do so.02:07:36
>> And ordinarily, you just go to How do02:07:39
you How do you pick your judge for that?02:07:40
>> No, it's not. What's different in DC,02:07:42
Larry, is that in other states, like if02:07:44
this happened in Florida, the person02:07:46
over the National Guard is the governor.02:07:48
So, the chain of command goes National02:07:50
Guard, governor. But there is no02:07:53
governor in Washington DC. The DC02:07:55
National Guard is unique in that they02:07:57
are the only ones that report directly02:07:59
to the Secretary of the Army.02:08:02
So that's what's unique about DC. But it02:08:05
to it you just have to not understand uh02:08:08
the Constitution and the chain of02:08:11
command to say that about Nancy Pelosi.02:08:13
And that again goes to show how easy it02:08:15
is to lie to you guys. That's an obvious02:08:17
one. Nancy Pelosi could be on record02:08:20
saying, "I should have called in the02:08:22
National Guard and I didn't." And it02:08:24
still wouldn't [ __ ] matter because02:08:25
she doesn't have the authority to call02:08:27
in the National Guard. But you can go02:08:28
find videos of her calling Mike Pence,02:08:30
begging, and Chuck Schumer calling Mike02:08:32
Pence, begging him, tell Trump to send02:08:34
in the National Guard. And Pence has02:08:36
testified saying, "Trump wouldn't take02:08:37
my calls." But Mike Pence was02:08:39
desperately trying to get the National02:08:41
Guard called in by getting a hold of02:08:42
Ryan McCarthy. Uh, and he couldn't get a02:08:45
hold of Ryan McCarthy. Apparently, he02:08:46
was in a skiff and Trump wouldn't take02:08:48
his calls. These are very simple things02:08:50
you can fact check. And when you fact02:08:52
check that, if you're honest, then ask02:08:54
yourself, why did every Republican lie02:08:56
to me about that? Why did they all say02:08:58
Nancy Pelosi could have called in the02:08:59
National Guard? Why does Trump say that02:09:01
she could have called in the National02:09:02
Guard when she doesn't have the02:09:04
authority to do that?02:09:06
>> The the NDOS's, some of them were signed02:09:08
by the chief judge and then others were02:09:09
signed by magistrate, magistrate judge,02:09:11
David Baker, at least as it relates to02:09:14
the members. How do you how does it02:09:16
>> That's also wrong.02:09:17
>> Did they pick it for you?02:09:18
>> Uh I I don't know that we picked the02:09:20
judge. I I have to say in my role in02:09:22
this I wouldn't have been I wouldn't02:09:23
have known that. I don't I don't know02:09:24
that even a prosecutor can pick the02:09:26
judge but I don't know what local02:09:28
practice in Washington DC would be on02:09:30
Helena. She can't02:09:32
>> Nancy Pelosi can't reject the National02:09:34
Guard either. She has no authority over02:09:37
them. You guys have to be stop being02:09:39
this [ __ ] desperate for Donald Trump02:09:41
to be uh innocent that you say dumb [ __ ]02:09:44
that doesn't make any [ __ ] sense. If02:09:47
Donald Trump calls in the National02:09:48
Guard, you think Nancy Pelosi can say02:09:50
no? How come these governors couldn't02:09:51
say no to Donald Trump when he called in02:09:53
the National Guard?02:09:55
Of course she can't override the02:09:57
president. What the You think that the02:09:59
the speaker of the house can override02:10:02
the president when it comes to the02:10:04
National Guard? Don't be this stupid to02:10:06
protect Donald Trump. You just come off02:10:08
looking like a [ __ ] cult member. some02:10:11
I think um Boseberg signed the NDOS's02:10:15
for the senators and then as it related02:10:17
to speaker McCarthy and some of our02:10:19
members um on the judiciary committee it02:10:21
was the magistrate judge David Baker and02:10:23
so you don't have any idea why that02:10:25
>> well a a common practice in my02:10:26
experience as a prosecutor certainly02:10:28
when I was a prosecutor in Brooklyn is02:10:29
there'll be a duty judge or a duty02:10:30
magistrate and so whoever has duty that02:10:32
day is who you go to. Uh I just want to02:10:34
be clear in this case I don't have a02:10:35
recollection if that's how it works in02:10:36
DC. I want to show one more time how02:10:38
[ __ ] good he is at this. How why did02:10:41
you choose these judges? Jack Smith02:10:43
said, "I didn't choose the judges." They02:10:45
said, "Well, how do they choose the02:10:46
judges?" And he said, "Well, I wasn't02:10:48
part of this discussion, but in other02:10:50
places, it's whoever's on duty that day.02:10:52
You have a judge on duty, so it's02:10:54
usually just goes to who's on duty, but02:10:55
I didn't choose the judge, and here's02:10:57
how it works." They tried so hard with02:10:59
gotcha after gotcha after gotcha, and he02:11:01
just steamrololled them with facts.02:11:04
>> It may well have been that way.02:11:05
>> Okay. Um, and these NDO orders, at least02:11:09
the ones we've seen, they're all the02:11:10
same. Is that is that a fair um is that02:11:12
a fair statement?02:11:13
>> Um, I think they're usually very02:11:15
similar. Yes.02:11:16
>> Okay. Um,02:11:18
and you submit a proposed order,02:11:21
correct, for the judge to sign?02:11:22
>> That's correct.02:11:24
[snorts]02:11:25
>> And part of the language in this um02:11:28
states02:11:30
um that the court finds reasonable02:11:31
grounds to believe that such disclosure02:11:33
will result. don't know who's on. Well,02:11:35
even if they do know who's on duty, it02:11:38
doesn't matter. He didn't You don't02:11:40
choose the judge. It's who's on duty.02:11:42
>> Flight from prosecution, destruction of02:11:44
or tampering with evidence, intimidation02:11:46
of potential witnesses, and serious02:11:47
jeopardy to the investigation. Is that02:11:49
>> one more thing? They again, MAGA, you02:11:51
have to you have to reset your your mind02:11:53
frame here for a second. You have to02:11:55
reset this from what do you believe02:11:57
versus what are we talking about here?02:12:00
We're talking about a court case. So,02:12:02
imagine this was going on in court. If02:12:05
the uh if the the Republicans here, in02:12:08
this case, the defense were trying to02:12:10
prove that Jack Smith chose a judge,02:12:14
they the burden of proof would be on02:12:16
them. They would have to prove that Jack02:12:18
Smith knew who was the onduty judge and02:12:21
that's why they chose him. How in the02:12:23
world would they prove that? He just02:12:25
said, "I don't even know what I don't02:12:26
even know how they choose the judges02:12:28
here. In other places where I've02:12:30
practiced, I think he said New York,02:12:31
this is how they do it. But I'm not even02:12:33
sure if that's what they do in Virginia.02:12:36
Remember, we're talking about a court of02:12:37
law. This isn't the court of public02:12:38
opinion. This would take place in a02:12:40
courtroom. So all these things that you02:12:42
are willing to believe just for the hell02:12:44
of it. That's fine. You can believe02:12:46
that. But in a court, if you make that02:12:48
claim, you're going to need evidence.02:12:49
And they don't have any evidence that he02:12:51
did that. This would be impossible. And02:12:54
even if they did, let's just extend it02:12:55
out. Let's say that they prove that he02:12:57
chose he chose that judge because he02:13:00
thought that judge would be friendly to02:13:02
him. Well, now we've got a problem uh in02:13:05
Florida because they chose the judge in02:13:08
Florida because Trump appointed that02:13:10
judge. So, how's that going to play out02:13:13
in court when you go, you chose a02:13:14
magistrate judge to get subpoenas? And02:13:17
they're like, all right, well, you guys02:13:18
chose that judge right there. This judge02:13:21
up here on the stand. You chose that02:13:23
judge. You got you literally gave Trump02:13:26
his own appointed judge to uh preside02:13:29
over the case. None of this would have02:13:32
worked in court. It works on you because02:13:34
you're desperate to believe this. But we02:13:36
do have to take this in context of how02:13:38
would this play out in a court of law.02:13:40
>> You remember? >> Yes. Th those are the um uh in the in02:13:43
the uh law and the numbers escaping me02:13:45
right now. But in the law that sets02:13:47
forth the reasons why you could get02:13:48
>> Thanks for the gift order. believe those02:13:51
are the the different um prongs if you02:13:53
will of that of that statute02:13:54
>> as it relates to members of Congress and02:13:56
senators and their st definitely their02:13:57
staff as well. Um I mean that presents02:13:59
concern that we don't have an02:14:00
opportunity to02:14:03
um you know quash the subpoena. How how02:14:05
does your office deal with with that02:14:07
prospect?02:14:08
>> Well the um the nature and I I should02:14:10
also be clear that when you're getting02:14:12
an NDO say for toll records it's not02:14:14
based on an02:14:15
>> it's like you're going to get banned02:14:16
again today. you got to stay on subject02:14:18
>> that necessarily the person who has um02:14:21
the phone number is personally going to02:14:23
obstruct the investigation. It's that if02:14:25
this gets out uh people could obstruct02:14:27
the investigation. So I want to make02:14:28
that clear. Uh second point would be um02:14:32
you you are correct in that inherent in02:14:34
getting an NDO is that at various times02:14:38
um people who might have arguments about02:14:40
why to quash a subpoena won't be able to02:14:42
make those arguments. in our uh02:14:44
investigation. This came up uh with02:14:46
Twitter. We wanted uh02:14:48
>> This is crazy. Okay, so just to give you02:14:51
because I've I've been talking over this02:14:52
just to tell you what they're talking02:14:53
about. They're talking about getting the02:14:54
phone records of members of Congress. Um02:14:57
and the law did not require Jack Smith02:15:00
to tell AT&T02:15:03
uh that the member that the numbers that02:15:05
they were seeking records of were02:15:06
members of Congress. It's that wasn't02:15:08
the law. Republicans since then have02:15:11
actually changed the law where for some02:15:14
Republicans now believe and and02:15:15
congratulations to you freedom loving02:15:17
Republicans. Republicans now under the02:15:19
Trump administration have decided that02:15:22
if you are going to access phone records02:15:25
of a member of Congress, you are02:15:27
required to tell them. So you and I, if02:15:30
somebody wants to investigate us, they02:15:31
can go get our phone records without us02:15:33
knowing. But if you want to investigate02:15:35
a member of Congress, they get to know02:15:37
about it. Now, even if not even02:15:39
investigate them, just get their phone02:15:40
records. And the reason they were02:15:42
getting these phone records is so that02:15:43
they could corroborate testimony of02:15:46
specifically Kevin McCarthy saying, uh,02:15:48
during this time, here's who I called.02:15:50
Here's who Donald Trump called at this02:15:52
time. And because that's just testimony,02:15:55
John, I'm getting a little feedback. And02:15:56
because that's just testimony, they need02:15:58
to go they need to go in and prove that02:16:00
the testimony from Kevin McCarthy and02:16:02
other witnesses is true by obtaining02:16:04
those phone logs so they can say,02:16:05
"Here's the phone call that Kevin02:16:06
McCarthy claims happened. Here's the02:16:08
record of that phone call happening on02:16:10
that day at that time." It's because02:16:13
he's thorough that he got these logs.02:16:15
But because of all of this, and because02:16:17
now Republicans are afraid that they're02:16:18
going to get caught, they've now changed02:16:20
the law so that members of Congress have02:16:22
more protection than you and I. So when02:16:24
they commit crimes, they get a heads up02:16:25
now.02:16:27
Isn't that cool? What's up, Jen?02:16:30
>> So, um, Nightcrawler gifted the subs.02:16:33
Um,02:16:34
>> oh, sorry.02:16:35
>> Yeah, Night.02:16:36
>> But, but Namaste found the name of02:16:39
Steve.02:16:41
>> Yep. >> Gotcha. That is the guy, right? Let make02:16:43
sure this is the guy.02:16:47
>> I'm send you I'm send you another link.02:16:49
RG found his Wikipedia. So,02:16:52
>> perfect. Thank you. Uh, Jamar said, "I02:16:53
don't know about the machines, but I was02:16:54
told we weren't allowed in your back02:16:56
door." Tonnie said, "Happy Friday. Enjoy02:16:58
your weekend." Uh, BB87 said, "If the02:17:02
GOP had nothing to hide, why did they02:17:03
hold this behind closed doors and not02:17:04
out in the open?" You know, like the02:17:06
Dems did. Uh, Ray said, "Let's [ __ ]02:17:09
go." Emily, thanks for joining the02:17:10
dollar train. I got those ones. Dan02:17:12
Daniel Ryan said, "Keep up the amazing02:17:13
work, Jane Jen." Uh, and also for the02:17:17
nerds, uh, Joey said, "Happy New Year."02:17:20
Thank you, Joey. Uh, I think I got all02:17:23
those. All right, continue02:17:24
>> to get uh records from Twitter regarding02:17:26
President Trump. Uh, Twitter uh and we02:17:29
had we and we uh applied for an NDO from02:17:32
the judge. Twitter refused to um uh02:17:36
provide the records unless they could02:17:38
tell President Trump about that. And so02:17:39
we had litigation with this in the02:17:41
district court. Twitter02:17:43
got a a a warrant02:17:47
and they said, "We won't comply with02:17:50
this warrant unless we're allowed to go02:17:51
tell Donnie what what's going on here."02:17:55
Remember, at the time it was they were02:17:56
all talking about how Twitter was so02:17:58
against Donald Trump. Twitter stood in02:18:01
the way. They had to litigate this. They02:18:02
won. They beat Twitter on this, but02:18:04
Twitter tried to not be involved and not02:18:06
comply with this investigation.02:18:09
>> Uh the district court agreed. um that02:18:11
there are situations and there it was02:18:13
that uh Twitter argued that President02:18:16
Trump should be able to assert executive02:18:18
privilege uh over uh the the records we02:18:20
wanted and uh as a result of that02:18:23
litigation, the court of uh the district02:18:25
court found um that we it was proper of02:18:28
us given the level of obstruction in02:18:29
this case um to get that NDO. That02:18:32
decision by the district court was02:18:34
upheld by the court of appeals. And then02:18:37
that decision by the court of appeals,02:18:39
uh, Twitter, my recollection is Twitter02:18:41
sought to get the Supreme Court to02:18:43
overrule that and Supreme Court refused02:18:44
to. And so I I tell you all that to say02:18:46
>> and then you find them, right?02:18:48
>> Well, actually that's before they they02:18:49
refused to comply even after she ruled02:18:51
and she set a schedule of fines and so02:18:53
part of the appeal was02:18:54
>> you saw the fines, right?02:18:55
>> Absolutely. Yes.02:18:56
>> Okay. Um, but the the point of of of02:18:58
telling you that was02:18:59
>> so Twitter for some reason was in open02:19:02
defiance of multiple judicial orders and02:19:05
wound up getting fined because they02:19:07
refused to comply with subpoenas02:19:10
>> that inherent in an NDO is it may be02:19:12
that02:19:13
>> um certain arguments about why a02:19:15
subpoena should be quashed um can't be02:19:17
made. So that that happens and I think02:19:19
there's a parallel in in those02:19:20
situations. When it comes to members of02:19:22
Congress though, there's this there02:19:23
there are, you know, the speech or02:19:24
debate protections, which you totally02:19:26
sidestep. I mean, the the toll records02:19:29
provide enormous02:19:30
>> what they're arguing, just so we're02:19:31
clear, the speech and debate clause02:19:33
basically allows members of Congress to02:19:36
not be held accountable for things they02:19:37
say in the course of their congressional02:19:39
duties when they're speaking on the02:19:41
House of Congress. It allows them to say02:19:43
stuff uh that uh may may or may not be02:19:46
true. If it turns out that they lied,02:19:47
they're protected. So, what they're02:19:49
arguing is that all of this stuff, all02:19:51
of this fraud that Donald Trump did is02:19:53
actually protected by the speech and02:19:56
debate clause. That they're allowed to02:19:57
lie and do fraud because of the speech02:20:00
and debate clause. That's how flimsy02:20:02
their actual defense is. Their first02:20:04
defense was, "But you didn't like Donald02:20:06
Trump." Their second defense is, "But02:20:08
what about the speech and debate02:20:09
clause?"02:20:12
>> Valuable information. um because it02:20:14
shows who who a member of Congress, who02:20:17
a senator [clears throat] is is taking02:20:19
calls from and who they're calling and02:20:21
if you map it up against the Senate or02:20:23
the House calendar, um you can see who02:20:25
you know what the inputs are to their02:20:27
legislative uh decision-m which is at02:20:29
the core of speech debate. Do you agree02:20:30
with that?02:20:33
uh my office and I02:20:35
>> Oh, and by the way, real quick, somebody02:20:36
said that that Twitter refusing to02:20:39
comply with Jack Smith was after Elon02:20:43
bought Twitter.02:20:46
So Elon Elon Musk tried to run cover for02:20:49
Donald Trump and paid millions of02:20:52
dollars in open defiance of the law for02:20:55
Donald Trump. Now you guys are going to02:20:56
look at him like a patriot for that, but02:20:58
that's because you're all in a [ __ ]02:20:59
cult led by a criminal. ally uh take the02:21:02
protections of the speech or debate02:21:04
clause seriously. Uh I think they're02:21:06
they're part of our constitution.02:21:07
They're an important part of separation02:21:09
of powers. Uh I think our respect for02:21:11
the speech or debate clause is evidenced02:21:12
by the litigation we engaged in in this02:21:14
office. Um02:21:15
>> hold on. Wait a minute. Dr. Now we've02:21:18
got a problem. Drummond here wants us to02:21:19
say all those liberals went on record02:21:21
saying they're going to find something02:21:22
on Trump and going to get Trump. That is02:21:23
illegal, you fools. Well, the02:21:25
Republicans here are arguing that that's02:21:26
not illegal. Dreund or Draymond or Dre02:21:30
Dremond. Sorry if I'm [ __ ] up your02:21:32
name. They're arguing that that would be02:21:35
protected speech.02:21:37
See, see how you have a problem here?02:21:40
All those Democrats from J6 uh said they02:21:43
were going to get him. Oh, [ __ ] But02:21:46
then, but then they're protected. So02:21:47
then wouldn't Republicans argue that02:21:49
that's protected?02:21:51
>> Conducted litigation with Congressman02:21:52
Perry and also Vice President Pence um02:21:55
taking very that very seriously. I would02:21:56
just02:21:57
>> I don't know about anything about that,02:21:58
Jack. That Jack Dorsey refused to comply02:22:01
with Iranian regime. I'm not sure what02:22:02
that story is. Uh I'm would not def and02:22:05
Jack Dorsey. I wouldn't be surprised.02:22:08
>> Would just also add that my office um02:22:11
>> but refuse to comply with them. Yeah, I02:22:13
I would say that that's okay if Jack02:22:15
Dorsey refused to comply with the02:22:17
Iranian regime. Actually, I didn't read02:22:18
that right. Yeah, that's fine. Uh JackDescription:
In this episode, we break down: The "Proof Beyond a Reasonable Doubt": Smith reveals that despite the cases being abandoned due to DOJ policy, his team developed powerful evidence—including Trump allies' testimony—that would have sustained convictions in both the election interference and classified documents cases. The National Guard Myth: We revisit the blatant contradiction of Chris Miller, who previously admitted under oath that Trump never gave a formal order for 10,000 National Guard troops on January 6, dismissing the claim as mere "presidential banter". The Subpoena Defense: Smith defends the lawful use of phone toll records to prove Trump was pressuring GOP lawmakers even as his supporters were storming the Capitol. Mamdani’s Socialist Surge: While the right-wing machine targets New York’s newly inaugurated Mayor Zohran Mamdani, he’s doubled down on his "audacious" plan to tax the billionaire class to fund universal childcare and free buses. Propaganda Exposed: We look at the latest "undercover" grift from YouTuber Nick Shirley, whose claims about Minnesota childcare fraud were quickly dismantled by state records showing active licenses and regular inspections. From the "catastrophic" toll on democracy to the bold new era of progressive governance in NYC, we're exposing the blueprints for the next era of political warfare. Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLoR6vS-cPolHLvWYcchzag/join
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