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content. Here we go. It's hour two. Rams00:00:13
come back and make it close. Stafford00:00:15
plays well, they win. Stafford00:00:18
struggles, they lose. 11 and five on the00:00:21
season. McVey did say he's going to play00:00:24
uh the starters in week 18. Good to have00:00:28
you in today. So, the college football00:00:29
playoff tomorrow,00:00:32
uh, Miami, I liked them00:00:35
to get into the playoff over in Notre00:00:37
Dame. I liked them over Texas&M. I think00:00:40
they keep it close here. Can they move00:00:42
the ball00:00:44
consistently? At least win some field00:00:46
position battles against Ohio State. I00:00:48
think Ohio State will struggle to move00:00:50
the ball. Really good pass rush. Um,00:00:55
Miami is old school physical, but I00:00:57
think the Buckeyes have so many00:00:59
interesting perimeter weapons. Brian00:01:02
Hartine's recruiting, they'll kind of00:01:03
outlast them over the course of time.00:01:05
They'll just make a couple of big plays00:01:06
down the sideline. So, here we do it.00:01:08
The herd hierarchy00:01:11
as we head into week 18. Here we go.00:01:16
>> Herd hierarchy.00:01:17
>> TIME IS NOW. LET'S GO.00:01:18
>> THE TOP 10 NFL teams according to00:01:21
college. Number 10. Yeah, I'll put00:01:23
Buffalo once again at 10. They've00:01:25
trailed in each of their last nine00:01:27
games. Three of their five losses have00:01:29
come to Philadelphia, the Texans, and00:01:31
the Patriots. Um I I don't think they're00:01:34
going to be able to beat top end teams00:01:36
consistently. They can't defend the run.00:01:38
They fall into holes. Uh I don't trust00:01:41
them situationally in big spots. Uh00:01:44
they'd won five straight division00:01:45
titles. And my guess going forward,00:01:47
Drake May and Mike Vrabel are going to00:01:48
own the division. I have the Bills at00:01:50
10. Number nine.00:01:52
>> Yet, I do think the Texans could play00:01:54
for the AFC Championship, eightgame00:01:56
winning streak. Best fourth quarter00:01:59
differential in the league. They wear00:02:01
you out physically and can pull away in00:02:04
the final quarter. Now, they've scored00:02:06
20 or fewer points this year, but that's00:02:10
because if Woody Marx doesn't play, I I00:02:12
don't know if I trust their offense.00:02:13
I've always liked CJ Strad, but I like00:02:16
this team. I would not want to face this00:02:18
team in the playoffs. would not at all.00:02:22
Texans nine.00:02:23
>> Number eight,00:02:24
>> uh, the Bears. They lead the NFL in big00:02:26
plays on offense, but they've allowed00:02:28
the third most on defense. So, they00:02:31
don't turn it over. Caleb does not turn00:02:33
the ball over. They don't take sacks00:02:36
nearly as much as last year. I think00:02:38
Caleb's had a very good season. And I00:02:40
think Ben Johnson in an argument for00:02:42
coach of the year the last two games00:02:46
Caleb Williams has almost 650 yards, a00:02:49
bunch of touchdowns, no sacks, no00:02:51
turnovers, and a passer rating at 100.00:02:54
Uh, I like what I see. The Bears at00:02:56
eight. >> Number seven, Denver Broncos clinched00:02:59
their first AFC West title since 2015.00:03:02
They are 7-1 at home and have been a00:03:05
great home team since Shawn Peyton00:03:07
arrived. They're 12 and one. the last00:03:10
two years at home. Many of them close,00:03:12
come from behind wins in the fourth00:03:14
quarter. They are [snorts] four and00:03:17
teams that play them00:03:19
are 4 and 11 the following week. That00:03:22
matters to me. What it says is Denver00:03:25
beats you up physically. You better00:03:28
strap the helmet on and be ready to00:03:30
play. I have Denver at seven.00:03:33
>> Number six,00:03:34
>> Philadelphia. Hard team to figure out.00:03:36
They are number one in the red zone and00:03:38
they've been the number one scoring00:03:40
defense since they traded for linebacker00:03:43
uh Jaylen Phillips from Miami. He's a00:03:44
good player obviously. Here's an00:03:46
interesting one with Jaylen Herz. Do you00:03:48
know he is 7 and000:03:51
against Mahomes Allen Burlamar Jackson00:03:54
over the last three years [laughter]00:03:56
he just he and Philadelphia may be00:03:58
uneven. They have a way of beating good00:04:01
teams home or away.00:04:03
>> Number five,00:04:04
>> the Rams don't trust their special00:04:05
teams. lost three of five. Have not been00:04:08
a good one-score game. All five losses00:04:11
this year in one-score games. And their00:04:14
defense, maybe it's beat up, I don't00:04:16
know, but their defense is regressing.00:04:18
You saw it last night, could not stop00:04:21
Bejan Robinson. They're very dependent00:04:23
on how Matt Stafford plays. When he when00:04:27
he throws picks, they don't, which is00:04:28
discouraging because Seattle wins when00:04:30
Darnold throws picks. I've watched San00:04:32
Francisco win when Brock Pury throws00:04:36
picks or M. Jones plays. If Stafford00:04:38
struggles, the Rams lose.00:04:40
>> Number four,00:04:41
>> the Jags00:04:43
sevengame winning streak. During that00:04:45
streak, outscoring people by 17 a game.00:04:48
And Trevor Lawrence's last five games,00:04:51
109.7 passer rating. They're for real.00:04:55
I mean, listen, if you don't watch them,00:04:57
here's all you need to know.00:04:59
They've hammered good teams. They go on00:05:02
the road and win. I know it's a odd00:05:06
franchise. I got the Jags at four.00:05:09
>> Number three,00:05:10
>> I worry about the O line and the run00:05:13
game a little, but I'm going to put the00:05:14
Patriots there. Only team in the league00:05:16
top five offense, top five defense. I00:05:19
mean, Drake May is going to win the MVP00:05:21
and should. He just I mean he had a he00:05:23
had a bad game I think on the road00:05:25
against Pittsburgh about three months00:05:27
ago but they got a lock down corner in00:05:30
Christian Gonzalez.00:05:32
They don't run the ball consistently but00:05:34
they run it good enough. I have them at00:05:36
three. >> Number two00:05:38
>> ners I know00:05:40
sixgame winning streak. Do they have a00:05:43
hole? Yeah. Opposing quarterbacks have a00:05:45
passer rating of 101. Caleb Williams had00:05:48
his best game as a pro. So, Robert00:05:51
Salah's done a great job. They got a00:05:53
blitz to create pressure. They've got a00:05:55
massive hole, but offensively00:05:59
right now they are on fire. And George00:06:02
KD didn't even play against Chicago. I00:06:04
got him at two.00:06:06
>> Number one,00:06:07
>> Seattle 4 and2 against winning teams.00:06:10
Darnold's the winningest quarterback in00:06:12
the NFL the last two years. Seattle may00:06:16
not be great at anything. They're not00:06:19
bad at anything. They don't have to have00:06:22
Darnold play great to win. They don't00:06:25
have to have a bunch of sacks to win.00:06:27
They win on the road. They win at home.00:06:30
Again, in the playoffs, you can't be bad00:06:34
at stuff because the coaching's so good,00:06:36
they'll expose it. There they remind me00:06:38
a little bit of New England. What's New00:06:40
England bad at? I wish I wish the00:06:42
Patriots ran the ball more consistently,00:06:45
but New England's not bad at anything.00:06:48
The only other team I can say that about00:06:50
is the Seahawks. I have them at number00:06:52
one.00:06:55
Jmack thoughts.00:06:58
Three teams in the NFC West make your00:07:01
top five. That is insane. Uh Colin, if I00:07:04
had said the Jags would be number four00:07:07
in the herd hierarchy heading into week00:07:09
18, you probably would have kicked me00:07:11
off the show. Jacksonville, that is an00:07:13
unbelievable story. I was just doing00:07:15
some research here. Did you know they00:07:16
lead the NFL in drop passes this year?00:07:20
>> What?00:07:21
>> Yeah, they um crazy.00:07:22
>> Jacksonville is one of those teams if if00:07:26
you know you you can't It just goes to00:07:28
show I mean Chicago hires a new00:07:30
offensive coach.00:07:32
>> Jacksonville hires a new offensive00:07:34
coach. San Francisco Rams offensive00:07:36
coach. We do like the Texans.00:07:39
>> Yeah. >> Because their defense is by far and away00:07:41
the best in the league. And again,00:07:43
Vrabel's Drake May is going to work.00:07:45
Josh McDaniels. Little bit of the secret00:07:47
sauce here with Brady and McG. It's a00:07:50
lot of offensive guys engineering it.00:07:52
Sean Payton in Denver. I mean, say what00:07:54
you want about Philadelphia, but I mean00:07:56
that offense, Jaylen Herz doesn't turn00:07:58
it over, doesn't take a lot of sacks.00:08:01
>> I'll tell you, if Philadelphia played00:08:03
the Rams, you mentioned this earlier,00:08:05
the game plan is going to be real00:08:06
obvious. You throw to AJ Brown 15 times00:08:10
because I don't think the Rams match up00:08:12
at all. I think Philadelphia is a tough00:08:15
matchup for the Rams.00:08:16
>> By the way, uh Colin, on your list here,00:08:18
I'm counting four quarterbacks on their00:08:21
rookie deal. Drake May, Bo Knicks, CJ00:08:24
Stout, and Caleb Williams. Interesting.00:08:26
No Momes, no Burrow, no Lamar. The tide00:08:30
has turned in the NFL pretty quickly,00:08:32
huh? Oh my gosh.00:08:33
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on a Tuesday. The herd hierarchy 1 hour00:09:35
from now, Patriots head coach Mike00:09:37
Vrabel stops by.00:09:40
Welcome in wherever you may be, however00:09:43
you may be listening. Appreciate you00:09:45
making us part of your day. So, in the00:09:48
NFL, I think we all know this. The more00:09:50
ways you can win, the better. Seattle's00:09:53
winning when Sam Darnold doesn't play00:09:54
well. The Niners won when M. Jones was00:09:57
starting. The Bears can win with their00:09:59
run game and not Caleb Williams.00:10:01
Philadelphia won a game this weekend00:10:03
where they didn't complete a pass in the00:10:06
second half. Lot of different ways for00:10:09
the Seahawks and the ners and the Bears,00:10:12
the Eagles, maybe more than any team can00:10:15
win. But with the Rams, it's different.00:10:17
If Matt Stafford plays poorly, they00:10:20
lose. In the 11 wins this year for the00:10:22
Rams, he has 30 touchdowns and two00:10:25
picks. In the Rams five losses, he has00:10:28
12 touchdowns and six picks.00:10:31
And people call Sam Darnold reckless,00:10:33
but when Darnold struggles, he still00:10:35
gives you elite mobility and playmaking.00:10:38
Stafford now took over the all-time lead00:10:40
in pick sixes.00:10:43
Like, it's just not good if he's00:10:47
struggling. Yesterday at the end of the00:10:49
show, I called it the McVey magic.00:10:51
Sometimes when you watch the Rams, are00:10:54
they great or is McVey just magical?00:10:57
Brandon Staley was McVeyy's brilliant00:11:00
defensive coordinator00:11:02
until he left the building. Zack Taylor,00:11:06
10 games under 500 in Cincinnati. He was00:11:08
the next McVey. I hear that defensive00:11:12
coordinator Chris Schula is going to be00:11:15
a head coach, but I just watched Bon00:11:17
Robinson have his best game as a pro.00:11:19
Nine yards a carry and they didn't do a00:11:22
lot to adjust at halftime.00:11:26
Is he really a great defensive00:11:28
coordinator?00:11:30
I I'm mean the bottom line here, if not00:11:33
for an amazing play in special teams by00:11:36
Jared Verse, how close is that game? And00:11:39
here's what's troublesome beyond being00:11:42
very dependent on Stafford is in the00:11:45
last three weeks, the Rams defense00:11:48
second worst in the league and yards00:11:51
allowed per play. I'm not denying Verse00:11:55
is great and Stafford's unbelievably00:11:57
talented and nobody can defend Puka, but00:12:00
it is interesting when you have McVey00:12:02
and Kyle Shanahan in the same division.00:12:04
I talked about this yesterday00:12:06
because with both McVey and Shanahan,00:12:09
it's like they're illusionists. Is Brock00:12:12
Pury really a superstar? [laughter]00:12:15
Last guy picked in the draft. He plays00:12:18
like it. Is Jawan Jennings really that00:12:20
great as like a sixth or a seventh round00:12:22
player? Well, he plays like it. Is the00:12:25
Rams offensive line really that good?00:12:27
Got bullied last night a few times. I00:12:30
mean, they couldn't block the edges or00:12:33
is it just again the McVey Magic?00:12:36
Because what is absolutely clear with00:12:39
LA, there's absolute deficiencies and00:12:43
they're getting exposed. the O line.00:12:47
All it takes is one injury. They00:12:49
struggle to protect the defense00:12:53
last three weeks regressing. Stafford00:12:56
gets reckless. Uh without Devonte Adams,00:12:59
they absolutely struggle in the red00:13:01
zone. So, and then losing to Atlanta00:13:05
really hurts because they have Atlanta's00:13:07
first round pick. Couple weeks ago, that00:13:09
thing was like the eighth pick. Well,00:13:11
now that's dropped down to 12th. So00:13:14
beating Atlanta for no other reason to00:13:17
secure a top 10 pick was important and00:13:21
they were completely worked out schemed00:13:24
out coached out played out everything in00:13:26
the first half and in the second they00:13:29
still didn't do a great job adjusting.00:13:31
So, in San Francisco, you know, it's00:13:34
like every quarterback00:13:37
with Kyle Shanahan looks so much better00:13:40
than potentially they are until they00:13:42
leave the building. And with McVeyy's00:13:45
staff, I'm almost told how brilliant it00:13:47
is. And I I watch all these guys leave00:13:50
the building and they're not as00:13:51
brilliant. So McVey totally dejected,00:13:55
keeps it really curt and succinct when00:13:58
he loses. Says these starters will play00:14:01
next week in week 18.00:14:04
Oh, we're playing. Yeah, they're playing00:14:07
>> because of00:14:08
>> No, they were going to play anyways. We00:14:09
need to play. We need to play better00:14:10
football. Um so I I you know, I don't00:14:13
know what the consequences are and those00:14:15
different types of things, but um we got00:14:19
to play better. So, week 18 isn't great.00:14:22
Saturday, Seahawks, ners, fantastic. And00:14:26
then we've got the Ravens at Pittsburgh00:14:30
and the winner goes to the playoffs. And00:14:32
a lot of the talk in this game is the00:14:35
future of John Harbaugh, the Ravens head00:14:38
coach. Feels like every five or six00:14:39
years he gets heat. And Mike Tomlin, the00:14:42
coach of the Steelers. I'm reading a00:14:44
column this morning, whoever loses, the00:14:47
coach could be in trouble. But I don't00:14:49
feel the same way. Two years ago, John00:14:50
Harbaugh was in the AFC Championship.00:14:53
The Ravens don't feel tonedeaf for out00:14:56
of touch to offense. The Steelers do.00:15:01
John Harbaugh's big problem is he can't00:15:03
beat Mahomes and Andy Reid in the00:15:04
playoffs. Mike Tomlin's issue is he00:15:07
can't beat anybody in the playoffs.00:15:08
Seven straight seasons, bottom 1000:15:10
offense. In that same period, Harbaugh00:15:14
in an offensive league is out of top 1000:15:15
offense four times. So when I look at00:15:19
the Ravens as a whole in Harbaugh, I00:15:21
just see a roadblock almost like Phil00:15:23
Mickelson can't beat Tiger and the big00:15:25
ones, right? Like or or the Blazers or a00:15:29
Gary Payeyton or the Knicks just00:15:31
couldn't get through Jordan. Like let's00:15:33
be honest, John Harbaugh's biggest issue00:15:35
is they couldn't beat Mahomes. Lamar00:15:37
couldn't beat Mahomes. He was struggling00:15:39
to beat Andy Reid.00:15:41
But they're making AFC Championships00:15:43
recently. They've won a Super Bowl more00:15:45
recently. I don't feel like the00:15:47
ecosystem with Baltimore is outdated. In00:15:50
Pittsburgh, I do.00:15:52
Once again, they can't run the football.00:15:54
What's that? Seven straight years. I00:15:56
mean, go ask yourself, when's the last00:15:58
time a Mike Tomlin team beat an elite00:16:02
franchise quarterback in the playoffs?00:16:05
Go ahead and look. I I went this00:16:07
morning.00:16:08
Mike Tomlin since 2009 0 and6 against00:16:12
Payton Manning, Mahomes, Rogers, Brady,00:16:14
Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen. So, I00:16:16
don't feel like Tomlin and I'd hire him00:16:18
in a second if I was the Miami Dolphins00:16:20
or Tennessee Titans. It's not that he00:16:22
can't coach. Same with Shawn McDermott.00:16:24
I'd hire Shawn McDermott in a second in00:16:25
Tennessee or a second in Miami. But when00:16:28
I hear that, well, Harbaugh and Tomlin,00:16:31
I don't feel the same with those two. I00:16:33
I I I mean, all you have to know is the00:16:36
Steelers have the second oldest roster00:16:38
in the NFL and spend the most money on00:16:41
defense. That's the influence of Tomlin,00:16:43
who's a still an an elite motivator.00:16:46
The Ravens, they spend their money00:16:48
mostly on offense. I mean, they'll pay00:16:50
for Kyle Hamilton, great safety. They00:16:52
should. They'll pay for a great guy in00:16:54
the defensive line. They should, but I00:16:56
don't feel the same. Here's Harbaugh00:16:58
when he's asked about he and uh Mike00:17:00
Tomlin's future.00:17:02
you really don't have um00:17:05
the space for that, you know, it's just00:17:07
not something that you have the the00:17:08
ability to to to think about. It's not00:17:10
important. It was important you it had00:17:13
an impact and a bearing, you know, then00:17:15
you I think you'd think about it. But00:17:17
you think about because it's always that00:17:19
way, you know. So, it's probably all00:17:21
that stuff makes it all kind of00:17:22
interesting and kind of fun and and00:17:24
real. Uh it's it's uh it's sports, you00:17:27
know, that's how sports are. And I think00:17:29
that's part of the intrigue of it all.00:17:31
So, I feel like really honored to be a00:17:33
part of that.00:17:34
>> And my wife talks about this all the00:17:36
time. As you age, she says, "Everybody00:17:38
gets older, just try to stay current.00:17:40
The Steelers don't necessarily with all00:17:42
the money they spend on defense, the age00:17:44
of the roster, the quarterback mess,00:17:45
they can't run the ball for seven years00:17:47
in an offensive league. The Steelers00:17:48
don't feel current to me. Baltimore00:17:50
does. I like their ownership, their00:17:52
front office, their head coach, their00:17:53
quarterback. They can even win. Huntley,00:17:55
the backup quarterback's good. They get00:17:57
efficient play when Lamar doesn't play.00:18:00
Uh, but I so it doesn't feel the same to00:18:02
me. I can like a coach, Shawn McDermott,00:18:06
and think it may be time if they lose in00:18:09
round one. And I can like a coach. I00:18:12
think Tomlin would be a great TV guy. He00:18:14
probably doesn't he show no interest in00:18:15
that. He doesn't want to do college, but00:18:18
I I just I feel like we're at the end of00:18:20
the line here. I do like Baltimore to00:18:22
win the game because it's a rivalry. It00:18:25
will be lowcoring and close, but you00:18:27
know, my feeling it's 2320 2017. I would00:18:31
lean with what I believe is the more00:18:33
current organization00:18:36
uh the more offensively friendly00:18:38
organization. I would take the Ravens to00:18:39
win that game. Jac had a good week of uh00:18:42
a good week of um let's just say with00:18:44
the numbers this week um you know it00:18:47
it's interesting. We have Mike Frabel on00:18:49
today00:18:51
that Stafford probably played his way00:18:53
out of the MVP last night. You know,00:18:55
it's a standalone game, fair or not,00:18:57
those things always have major00:18:58
influence. But the biggest game00:19:00
yesterday, you could argue on Monday,00:19:02
excuse me, or Sunday was the Bills and00:19:05
the Eagles and Josh Allen couldn't00:19:08
score, didn't have a point until six00:19:10
minutes left. So, to me, that opened the00:19:12
door for Drake May as MVP. Well, let me00:19:15
ask. I mean, you watch that game, uh,00:19:17
Jets getting throttled by the Patriots.00:19:19
There's a video clip of Mike Vrabel on00:19:20
the sideline up 35300:19:23
essentially saying, "Yeah, we're going00:19:24
to blitz and bad word, blank them." You00:19:27
know, Vrabel's was really going all in00:19:29
on the Jets. I almost wonder maybe you00:19:30
got to a point maybe he was trying to00:19:32
get Drake made the MVP award. I I don't00:19:34
know. They were pouring it on, Colin, in00:19:36
the in the second half. Yeah, I don't00:19:38
think Vrabel's a guy that worries about00:19:40
any other coach's feelings uh or any00:19:42
other organization.00:19:44
>> It was not forgotten among Jets fans.00:19:46
Let's just say that00:19:47
>> like it'll matter uh in a few years when00:19:50
we're decent.00:19:51
>> Maybe a few decades.00:19:54
>> Drake May, Patriots quarterback,00:19:56
secondyear guy, favorite now odds on00:20:00
favorite to win the MVP.00:20:03
Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes also year00:20:06
two won the MVP. He's that good. I a00:20:10
real proof of his greatness. He leads00:20:12
the NFL in completion percentage and00:20:15
yards per attempt. So he leads the NFL00:20:17
in completion percentage and he is00:20:19
chucking it downfield. So also New00:20:21
England's run game average 20th. Uh00:20:25
offensive line banged up now left tackle00:20:28
backup for four games. O line middle of00:20:30
the pack PFF. So, but I always thought00:20:32
it was easier with Momes and Lamar00:20:35
Jackson00:20:37
to be stylistically fans, right? Like00:20:39
Lamar, the words you would use, dynamic,00:20:42
fast, explosive. Yeah, that feels like00:20:45
an MVP. Or Mahomes, left-handed throws,00:20:48
biggest arm in the game, add living off00:20:50
script. With Drake May, it's structural.00:20:53
He plays within rhythm. He's very00:20:56
accurate. He's durable. He's tough. He's00:20:59
an excellent leader. He gets the ball00:21:01
out quickly. It's hard to embrace that00:21:04
stuff. It doesn't feel as great. And a00:21:06
lot of people have said, "Well, they've00:21:07
got an easy schedule." You play the00:21:10
games in front of you. Shocker. The Jets00:21:12
and Miami weren't good. Again, that's00:21:14
not his fault. Brady led that division00:21:18
for years. Buffalo, the Jets in Miami,00:21:21
all three were bad. At least Buffalo's00:21:23
viable now. So, and in the in the eight00:21:25
quarters they played the Bills, New00:21:27
England and May were better in six of00:21:28
them. So, I just it it's a lot of times00:21:32
when you're doing like the NBA's always00:21:35
been about to a large degree style. I00:21:37
mean, Westbrook is he a winning player,00:21:42
but he's a Hall of Famer, right? Like,00:21:45
it's style matters. But it does in the00:21:47
NFL, too. We like sacks from our guys up00:21:51
front. We like our quarterbacks. For00:21:53
years and years when Brady was in New00:21:55
England, I mean to the end I was reading00:21:57
articles and you could tell people in00:21:59
the building, anonymous sources were00:22:01
saying, "Hey, a lot of guys could win00:22:03
here. Lot of quarterbacks could win00:22:06
here." Yeah. Could a lot of those guys00:22:08
go to Tampa and win a Super Bowl first00:22:10
year? Could a lot of those guys do that?00:22:12
No. Brady did. So, and Tom was on this00:22:15
show and talked about, you know, one of00:22:17
the elements where where he and he and00:22:20
Drake may may be similar00:22:23
with Drake, he has the physical ability,00:22:26
he has the size, but I think in terms of00:22:28
physical skill set, his downfield00:22:31
passing ability is is awesome. So, you00:22:34
know, Josh McDaniels has done incredible00:22:36
job this year for the Patriots. Drake is00:22:39
running the same system that I was in. I00:22:41
know how good that system is for00:22:43
quarterbacks. How Josh does teach these00:22:46
young quarterbacks all the different00:22:48
reasons why he's doing what he's doing,00:22:50
why we're trying to beat this coverage00:22:52
or how we're going to protect to give00:22:54
you the best chance to be successful.00:22:56
>> Drake has Foxboro uh from Tom. Uh he's00:23:00
got 12 games, 100 plus passer rating00:23:02
this year that ties Tom Brady. And I00:23:05
also think a lot of times if you're a00:23:08
really good coordinator, you go to be a00:23:10
head coach and it doesn't work where we00:23:13
think less of you. Josh McDaniels has00:23:15
been the best coordinator. He's the OC00:23:17
now for the Patriots. There's an00:23:18
argument he's been the best coordinator00:23:21
15 of the last 20 years in the NFL.00:23:24
Maybe maybe 18 of 20. And so, you know,00:23:28
the Patriots to me feel like00:23:31
same owner, same OC, same stylistic00:23:35
quarterback. The difference is Vrabel is00:23:38
more player friendly than Bellich, but00:23:40
like Bill, super smart, culture builder,00:23:44
very demanding, doesn't pander. The00:23:46
difference is he's more player friendly,00:23:48
which you have to be in 2025 and beyond.00:23:50
But it it it um I I I know completion00:23:54
percentage doesn't turn people on, but00:23:57
when you can lead the league in that and00:24:00
yards per attempt down field, that is00:24:03
special. 35-3 lead on the road just does00:24:07
not happen a lot. Think how good the00:24:10
Rams are. They were getting crushed on00:24:12
the road last night against a team that00:24:14
won't make the playoffs and a team in a00:24:16
wonky division. Jack with the news.00:24:19
>> NO. NO, NO.00:24:20
>> TURN ON THE NEWS.00:24:21
>> THIS is the Herdline news.00:24:24
>> All right, let's bust right into it. The00:24:26
49ers, Colin, the big story in the NFL00:24:29
right now is they their quest to be00:24:31
playing at home in the Super Bowl.00:24:33
They're just a few games away. All they00:24:35
got to do take down Seattle Saturday00:24:38
night. They are a small underdog as you00:24:41
see there on the screen. Kyle Shanahan00:24:43
is very excited. said the 49ers have00:24:46
earned this, adding, "We love an00:24:47
opportunity to never leave here again00:24:50
entering the playoffs." Colin, this is a00:24:52
big one. It sounds like it's going to00:24:54
make your blazing five. And uh I know00:24:56
you love going against Brock Party to00:24:58
the demise of your wallet [laughter]00:25:00
over the years.00:25:02
>> Well, I do think Pertie is a different00:25:04
quarterback when there's a pass rush. Um00:25:07
and you know, against Chicago, it was00:25:09
kind of a passive game plan. And I also00:25:12
think00:25:14
I think Seattle arguably right now is00:25:18
the most consistently good team in00:25:20
football. Half to half. Philadelphia may00:25:22
have a better roster, but you don't know00:25:23
what you get offensively half to half.00:25:25
Seattle's a handful. Now, of course, Sam00:25:28
Darnold when he faces pressure can get00:25:31
reckless, but you and I both know the00:25:33
one thing San Francisco does not do00:25:35
without blitzing is they don't create a00:25:37
pass rush. So, I actually think it's not00:25:40
about Perie and Darnold. I don't think00:25:42
either will be hyper effective. I I00:25:44
think it's about Darnold and that run00:25:47
game without a lot of pressure have been00:25:51
successful this year. And Brock Pury,00:25:54
whether trailing, cuz Seattle's a pretty00:25:56
good first half team. Whether trailing00:25:58
or facing pressure comes down in00:26:01
efficiency. So, I think it's a very,00:26:03
very close game. Would not be shocked if00:26:05
San Francisco won. But it should be00:26:07
noted again, McCaffrey had another huge00:26:09
touch game. I just wonder how many of00:26:12
these you can stack up after another.00:26:13
>> Yeah. Um I don't want to give away my00:26:16
pick yet, but Colin, I'm going to just00:26:18
give away. So two weeks ago, the Rams00:26:21
did whatever they wanted. Remember, up00:26:23
and down the field, 30 points. McVey was00:26:25
going on fourth down ultra confident,00:26:27
right? They end up scoring 37 in00:26:29
overtime. The These are the other teams00:26:31
Seahawks have played recently. Carolina,00:26:33
which you know, doesn't really have a00:26:35
functional offense all the time. Uh,00:26:37
Philip Rivers, who is 45 years old,00:26:39
going back to the sofa. Uh, Atlanta and00:26:42
I believe that was Kirk Cousins in a00:26:44
disaster. And, uh, JP, whatever,00:26:47
Brazomer, whatever, Max Brazmer, the kid00:26:49
in Minnesota. They haven't seen a good00:26:51
offense. The 49ers are going to score00:26:53
against these guys at will. I just don't00:26:56
I'm really worried, Colin,00:26:59
about [snorts] that 49ers pass rushing.00:27:00
your boy Sammy D.00:27:02
>> Slinging Sammy D.00:27:03
>> Can we get him to see some ghosts in the00:27:05
pocket? Maybe. [laughter] Robert Salah00:27:07
cook something up. I don't know. I just00:27:09
Yeah, I don't know.00:27:10
>> I think it's going to be one of the00:27:11
really, really entertaining game. I00:27:13
mean, last week we got San Francisco and00:27:15
Chicago, which is as good a game as00:27:17
we've had this year.00:27:18
>> You're not that. Come on.00:27:19
>> Well, I think it's going to be pretty00:27:21
good. I think it's going to be pretty00:27:22
good.00:27:23
>> All right, let's move on to the00:27:24
Philadelphia Eagles, Colin. And uh00:27:27
mysterious team right now. I don't know00:27:28
what to make of them, by the way. Looks00:27:30
like they will host the Rams in the00:27:32
first round. Holy hell, that's a game.00:27:34
Uh, anyways, Nick Serriani, you know,00:27:37
he's getting a lot of questions about00:27:38
that second half where they had 1700:27:40
yards. They've won two games, Colin,00:27:42
where Jaylen Herz did not throw a00:27:44
complete a pass in the second half. Zero00:27:46
completions and they won them. That's00:27:48
staggering. Anyway, here's Nick Serriani00:27:50
talking about the offensive game plans00:27:52
after halftime.00:27:54
>> I got to help. I I put it on myself. I00:27:56
got to help um you know with some things00:27:58
there with some things that I know we00:28:00
want to get called. Um you know Kevin00:28:02
did a good job uh in that first half. Um00:28:04
but I got to help in that second half a00:28:06
little bit getting some things that we00:28:08
want to get called there. Um and then00:28:11
you know in execution it's it's00:28:12
everything right and so um obviously I'm00:28:15
not going to get too much into it. I00:28:17
have some thoughts you know and we'll go00:28:18
back and look at it but um a lot of00:28:20
things that we can do differently and00:28:22
better there in the second half. Uh, the00:28:24
Philadelphia Eagles remain the enigma of00:28:27
the league. They're I listen, it's00:28:29
crazy. They regularly00:28:32
don't complete three passes in halves00:28:36
and win all of those games in a passing00:28:38
league. I mean, so, and I I'll give Siri00:28:41
credit. I didn't think he was ready for00:28:43
the job when he got it, but you know00:28:45
what he does really really well? He00:28:47
steps to the microphone. He takes a00:28:49
bullet. He's always willing to say,00:28:51
"It's on me." And that's that's like00:28:53
leadership. It's real easy to point00:28:54
fingers. We've seen coaches and00:28:56
quarterbacks, one of them in Pittsburgh,00:28:58
that love to point fingers when things00:29:00
don't go right. Sirriani takes it. He's00:29:02
always like, "Yeah, it's me." So,00:29:04
Philadelphia does Philadelphia is the00:29:07
only professional football organization00:29:11
in America, okay, that does what bad00:29:15
teams do. They fire coaches who get to00:29:18
the Super Bowl. They get rid of00:29:20
quarterbacks that win Super Bowls. They00:29:23
hire coaches who aren't quite ready for00:29:25
it. They take players with red flags00:29:28
that other teams take off their board.00:29:31
They literally have halves where they're00:29:34
the worst offense in the league. They00:29:36
have drama in the locker room with a00:29:38
quarterback and a receiver. They all00:29:40
this if I just wrote down on a list what00:29:43
they do coach conj with fans you'd be00:29:46
like oh that's got to be like is that is00:29:48
that the is that the Saints is that the00:29:51
Jets you're like no it's a Philadelphia00:29:53
Eagles a dominant professional football00:29:55
organization so I think there's00:29:57
something about Philadelphia that you00:29:59
can't deny00:30:01
any industry you're in when you are as00:30:03
passionate and you care as much as00:30:07
Philadelphia does about the NFL and you00:30:10
got a smart owner and a smart GM and00:30:13
you're willing to move off and into00:30:15
people quickly, it it it trumps a lot of00:30:18
other little frailties or vagaries you00:30:20
have in the organization.00:30:21
>> Yeah, it's it's interesting, Colin. I00:30:23
know some Eagles fans, you know, where I00:30:25
spent some years in outside of00:30:26
Philadelphia, they almost are like,00:30:28
"Hey, man, this season's so stressful00:30:30
and exhausting. If we lose in the first00:30:33
round, it's not the worst thing in the00:30:34
world cuz maybe Sirani gets fired." And00:30:36
I'm I got to ask you like it's in play00:30:39
that they could make a run to the Super00:30:40
Bowl. The defense is that good of00:30:42
course. >> But at the same time they could lose to00:30:44
the Rams in the first round and maybe00:30:45
that's what they need. Get Sirion out of00:30:48
here, right? Can you do that? Can you00:30:50
fire him after he goes super?00:30:52
>> I I don't I don't think they will00:30:53
because I think he's grown into the job.00:30:55
I think he's grown up. I think we have00:30:58
to be fair. You know, I always tell my00:31:00
kids this. When you get a job, you00:31:02
shouldn't be ready for it. Your resume00:31:04
should be ready for it. you shouldn't be00:31:06
ready for it. You should bail water for00:31:07
6 weeks. Sirani, I didn't think year one00:31:09
was ready for the job, but I got to give00:31:11
him credit. I think he's more mature00:31:12
now. He's grown up. He's better. He00:31:14
takes one for the team. And there is00:31:16
something about Philadelphia. He almost00:31:19
feels like a an occasional caller on WIP00:31:22
radio.00:31:23
>> Oh gosh. Yeah. That [laughter] that's00:31:24
what you aspire to. So Colin, earlier00:31:25
you were like, "Hey, he's really good at00:31:27
the podium. He says, "My bad, my fault,00:31:29
I messed up." Colin, if you went to00:31:32
management every single day after the00:31:34
show and said, "Yeah, we had a bad one.00:31:35
I was on me." And then you did it the00:31:37
next day and the next week because00:31:39
that's what Siri is doing. Every week00:31:41
he's taking bullets.00:31:42
>> But I'm not saying he's as secure as00:31:44
Shanahan or as secure as Deo Ryan's or00:31:47
McVey or Hardball. I'm not saying he's00:31:50
that secure. I'm saying I don't think00:31:52
he's in trouble.00:31:54
>> Should he be? Maybe that's a better00:31:56
question. Should he be? If they lose in00:31:58
the first round, I'm done with them. Get00:32:00
out. You got too good of a team. This is00:32:02
an awesome team. He can't fix the00:32:04
offensive coordinator.00:32:05
>> It's a very good roster. I will admit00:32:07
that. >> Pratt on a little too long. All right,00:32:09
let's wrap up. Uh Colin Andy Reid, you00:32:12
know, there is some concern. Well, you00:32:13
know, Kelsey's retiring. Maybe Andy Reid00:32:17
just steps down. Not so fast. Andy Reid00:32:20
sounds like he has no doubt going to00:32:23
decide he's going to continue as head00:32:25
coach of the Chiefs. Here is Reed00:32:27
talking about that situation.00:32:29
No, I'm I'm Listen, I'm I think I'm00:32:32
coming back,00:32:34
right? [laughter] If they'll have me00:32:36
back, I'll come back. You never know in00:32:38
this business, Matt. So, that's a you00:32:41
know, that's a that's a tough one, but I00:32:43
I plan on it. Yeah.00:32:45
>> Well, the good news for them is that00:32:47
they got a better draft position. They00:32:49
don't have to draft it. I mean,00:32:50
honestly, it's a ve I think it's a very00:32:52
good first round. It's not going to be00:32:53
as good at quarterback. Very good at00:32:55
tackle. They could use a tackle. So,00:32:57
I've I've been I'm working on my first00:32:59
mock draft here.00:33:00
>> You are.00:33:01
>> Jere what if Jeremiah Love is available?00:33:03
>> The Notre Dame running back. They have00:33:06
>> Would you take him over a tackle?00:33:07
>> Yes.00:33:08
>> Oo, that's00:33:09
>> Well, well, well, let let me say that00:33:11
again. I would not take Love over the00:33:13
two best tackles in this first round.00:33:15
One from Utah, one from Miami. I would00:33:17
probably take him over the third best00:33:20
tackle also from Utah.00:33:22
>> Well, the kid at Alabama, Kaden Proctor,00:33:24
all American pretty good, too. Yeah,00:33:25
they like him. I I mean again, you saw00:33:28
Mahomes when he don't have his tackles.00:33:30
You know, the guy the wide receivers00:33:31
don't have time to run the routes.00:33:33
Nothing works without the00:33:34
>> most great left tackles in the history00:33:36
of football. 28 of 3500:33:39
>> first round.00:33:41
>> There's a lot of great running backs in00:33:42
the third round and beyond. So you00:33:44
there's an argument, get a running back00:33:45
later. I mean, look at this kid. The00:33:47
Chicago Bears have had a Ruters00:33:49
>> seven. I mean, the kid is such a00:33:51
grinder. He's such a good player. Yeah,00:33:53
he helped carry me to the fantasy00:33:55
football championship over your boy Jeff00:33:57
Schwarz. Yeah, baby. It was a good00:33:59
weekend. It was good. Jmack with the00:34:01
news.00:34:02
>> Well, that's the news00:34:03
>> and thanks for stopping by.00:34:05
>> The Herd lie news.00:34:06
>> You know, college football playoff00:34:08
starts tomorrow. I think Ohio State00:34:10
Miami is a really good game. I like Ohio00:34:12
State, but I think it's really close.00:34:14
Um, I was thinking about this with the00:34:16
Buffalo Bills. This is crazy. Since week00:34:20
10, this is with Josh Allen,00:34:23
Pro Bowl left tackle, James Cook,00:34:25
excellent tight ends.00:34:27
Since week 10, the Buffalo Bills are00:34:31
23rd in the NFL in first half scoring.00:34:35
That is below Shadur Sanders and the00:34:37
Cleveland Browns.00:34:39
That [laughter] basically00:34:41
the Bills offense is Josh Allen, save us00:34:45
in the second half. So, their first half00:34:48
point differential is 23rd.00:34:51
And if you want to know who's really00:34:53
good scoring in the first half, McVey,00:34:55
Kyle Shanahan, Ben Johnson in Chicago,00:34:58
Vrabel, Josh McDaniels in New England.00:35:00
Um, and what's crazy is if you look at00:35:02
the construct of the Bills, you would00:35:05
think with a great left tackle, great00:35:07
run game, good tight end, best00:35:09
quarterback in the league, that they00:35:10
would score a lot of points early and00:35:12
then they would lean on James Cook in00:35:14
their run game to eat the clock in the00:35:16
second half and win going away. In fact,00:35:19
it's actually remarkable00:35:21
that they are the number one run team in00:35:23
the league when they trail in seven of00:35:25
their last eight games in the second00:35:27
half. So that that's but when I look at00:35:30
Buffalo, I have had them at like 10th.00:35:34
Uh Nick Wright finally loves Buffalo and00:35:36
my take is how do you win a Super Bowl?00:35:40
I mean it's one thing the Eagles you00:35:42
don't know what you get half to half but00:35:44
they have great first halves and great00:35:46
second halves. How do you win a Super00:35:47
Bowl when you trail in the second half00:35:49
out of seven out of eight games? So, I00:35:52
like I've said before that something00:35:55
isn't clicking when you have a great00:35:58
running back, a great left tackle, an00:35:59
amazing quarterback, excellent tight00:36:01
ends, and you are constantly coming from00:36:04
behind. Greg Coell has talked about00:36:06
Buffalo and what he sees on film.00:36:09
>> So, they're really not that good a00:36:10
football team. And I know that there's00:36:12
been a lot of talk about, well, this is00:36:13
Josh Allener and if he doesn't make it,00:36:16
you know, that is so silly. They're just00:36:17
not that good overall from a talent00:36:20
perspective. and they've got no00:36:22
receiving core. So, it's they're a hard00:36:24
team. They have to scheme up everything00:36:26
on offense and then hope that Josh Allen00:36:29
in a given game makes Josh Allen plays.00:36:32
>> So, listen, I understand too Kansas00:36:35
City's feeling this. When you have to00:36:36
draft at the bottom of the first round,00:36:39
it's hard. Most GMs I've talked to would00:36:42
trade out of the first round if you're00:36:45
drafting 20th and lower. You'd rather00:36:49
pay second round prices. is their second00:36:51
round talent. There's about 15 to 17,00:36:54
maybe 18 in a good year. Real true first00:36:57
round talent. And I think this if if if00:37:00
I think it's a really good first round.00:37:01
Good tackles, good edge rushers, couple00:37:05
big time linebackers, one great00:37:07
quarterback, but it is remarkable this00:37:11
team doesn't score in the first half.Description:
Colin Cowherd gives his Week 17 Herd Hierarchy top 10 NFL teams. Will Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks maintain the No. 1 spot? Are Brock Purdy and the San Francisco 49ers here to stay? Will MVP front runner Drake Maye keep the New England Patriots in the top 3? Plus, the Jacksonville Jaguars are sneaking their way into the top 5. Should Josh Allen’s Buffalo Bills even be on the list? Will Caleb Williams bring the Chicago Bears back? Next, Colin reacts to Matt Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams losing to the Atlanta Falcons. Then Colin discusses Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers, and asks whether they should they find a new coach or keep Mike Tomlin? Next, Colin breaks down Drake Maye and the New England Patriots as well as what makes the Buffalo Bills a bad team at the moment. 0:00 Herd Hierarchy 9:21 Los Angeles Rams 14:30 Pittsburgh Steelers 19:50 New England Patriots 24:10 NFL News 33:58 Buffalo Bills All lines provided by @hardrockbet Subscribe to The Colin Cowherd Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@ColinCowherdPodcast
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