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GIVEAWAY: We’re giving away two books to two separate winners: - One copy of The Big Print by Larry Lepard - One copy of Bitcoin Is for Everyone by Natalie Brunell To enter, submit your entry using the link below. We’ll select two winners shortly, one for each book. Thank you for helping us reach 2,500 subscribers and here’s to the next 2,500. Enter the giveaway here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScH9ZiMVawByM0CdnBJZzkZ-ylsWSppNKJyDixIk55UhQy5IA/viewform?usp=send_form Bitcoin, debt, and monetary policy are colliding — and according to Mark Moss, the next phase of the global economy will force a massive reset in how wealth is created, preserved, and destroyed. In this wide-ranging conversation, we explore Mark’s journey from early financial setbacks and losing everything in the 2008 financial crisis to discovering Bitcoin in 2013 and building companies at the intersection of macroeconomics and sound money. We break down why Mark believes we’re headed toward an economic “reverse crash,” how the Federal Reserve’s actions distort asset prices, why government debt has effectively reached its limit, and why money printing may be the only path policymakers see left. Mark also explains how to prepare for economic uncertainty step by step, the evolution of Bitcoin treasury companies, and what nation-state Bitcoin adoption could look like in the years ahead. If you want to understand how macro forces actually work beneath the headlines, how Bitcoin fits into the long-term monetary picture, and how to think clearly about risk, leverage, and opportunity in an unstable economic environment, this episode is for you. ⭐️ Follow Mark Moss: X: https://x.com/1MarkMoss YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UC9ZM3N0ybRtp44-WLqsW3iQ Market Disruptors: https://www.youtube.com/@UCdb3vYKZ60hZM5FtC-WlYPA Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction to Mark Moss and His Early Career 03:23 – Lessons from Early Financial Setbacks 05:20 – Discovering Bitcoin in 2013 08:50 – Book Giveaway Announcement & Subscriber Milestone 09:49 – Bouncing Back After Losing Everything in the 2008 Financial Crisis 11:41 – Learning How to Use Debt the Right Way 17:19 – Predictions of a Major Economic “Reverse” Crash 20:00 – Understanding the Process of Economic Change 24:26 – The Role of the Federal Reserve and Future Implications on Asset Prices 28:51 – Preparing for Economic Uncertainty (Step by Step) 35:55 – The Limits of Government Debt and Why Printing More Money May Be the Only Option Left 42:00 – Inflation vs. Deflation and the Central Bank Dilemma 44:47 – Why Bitcoin Hasn’t Kept Up With Global Liquidity This Cycle 51:53 – The Evolution of Bitcoin Treasury Companies and Mark’s Involvement 53:32 – Update on Mark’s Bitcoin Treasury Company, Satsuma 57:32 – M&A and Strategic Growth in Bitcoin Treasury Companies 01:00:15 – The Future of Bitcoin Adoption by Nation-States About Mark Moss: Mark Moss is an entrepreneur, investor, and macroeconomics educator focused on helping people understand how money, debt, and incentives really work. Known for his ability to translate complex economic systems into clear, actionable frameworks, Mark has spent years studying market cycles, monetary policy, and Bitcoin’s role as an emerging global monetary asset. His work centers on preparing individuals and businesses to navigate economic volatility with clarity rather than fear. #Bitcoin #Crypto #Investing Video Editor: Ben Mehler (benjmehler@gmail.com) Intro Song: Electronic Future Beats_Fadeout by QubeSounds 📩 Promote your brand with Proof of Thought. For sponsorship & partnership opportunities, contact inquiriespot@gmail.com ⚠️ Disclaimer This content is for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as financial, investment, legal, tax, or any other form of advice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Proof of Thought Podcast (“PoT”) or its guests to buy or sell any securities, cryptocurrencies, or other financial instruments. Investing involves substantial risk, including the possible loss of principal. Do your own research and consult qualified financial professionals before making any investment decisions. The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of PoT, its hosts, sponsors, or affiliates. PoT and its participants may hold positions in or receive compensation from companies, assets, or products mentioned. PoT, its hosts, and its guests are not financial advisors and are not responsible for any losses, damages, or actions taken based on the information presented. Use of this content is at your own risk.