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I want to bring Spencer Acriman into
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this conversation. Uh you have a new
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piece in Zateo headlined he killed for
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the CIA in Afghanistan. Trump blames
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Afghan culture instead of Langley's. Uh
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can you elaborate?
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>> Yes. Your guests have spoken very
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eloquently about the betrayal and the
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dishonor uh that the collective guilt of
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Afghan refugees ascribed by the Trump
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administration for this horrific murder
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is having. Uh what we're focusing on
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less is that the person what we're
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focusing on less is that the person who
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committed allegedly uh these crimes,
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Lackenwall, had a gun put in his hand
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when he was a child by the CIA. Uh
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apparently when he was 14 or 15, he was
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brought into the zero unit uh number
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three around Kandahar. Apparently his
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brother uh told the New York Time
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apparently his brother the New York
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Times reported was a deputy commander of
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this unit. This unit was a death squad.
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Uh, the United States made this person
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into a child soldier and now is
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experiencing what I think is one of the
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most horrifically bright line cases of
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imperial blowback uh that we've seen
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throughout the war on terror. If the
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United States wants to find out whose
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culture is responsible for this uh
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horrific crime, it needs to start by
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knocking on doors at Langley and as well
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uh the uh Afghans who ran the USbacked
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uh Afghan intelligence service uh known
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as the NDS. Uh it was this culture of
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violence, of impunity, of murder for
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political reasons that had a specific
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role. We'll find out more at trial of
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shaping Lack and Wall and his
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circumstances to blame the Afghans who
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came here as refugees, desperate uh
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overwhelmingly as your guest said, who
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worked with the United States, who
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served the US war effort, is perverse,
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and it is ultimately a cover for
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allowing the US to continue to create
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death squads to outsource its most
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murderous and its most uh despicable
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wartime actions to locals who then it
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can blame them for.
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>> I [snorts] was thinking about Timothy
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McVey um who was on the highway of death
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in Iraq. He comes back from there. He
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blows up the Oklahoma City building. He
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kills what something like 169 people.
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>> No one said then that all white
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Christian men should be imprisoned, let
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alone deported. Um but your thoughts on
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those kind of comparisons?
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>> I think what we are really seeing is the
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horrific consequences of a violent,
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exploitative and extractive US foreign
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policy once again, not for the first
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time, but once again coming home. If the
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United States actually cherishes the
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lives of these West Virginia National
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Guardsmen who should not have been in DC
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in the first place to backs stop ICE,
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that's its own issue. But if the United
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States values their lives, it values the
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lives of other service members and other
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Americans, then it has an obligation to
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in the first instance stop creating
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these death squads, to stop creating the
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conditions that are warping the people
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who serve in them to the point where
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they would commit horrific murders like
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these. That's a cherishing of human life
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that we never see from the United States
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in its foreign policy missions around
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the world.
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Support our work: https://www.democracynow.org/donate/sm-desc-yt Rahmanullah Lakanwal, the man who authorities say shot two National Guardsmen outside the White House, had previously worked in a CIA-backed "Zero Unit" in Afghanistan, often called "death squads" by human rights groups. "The United States made this person into a child soldier, and now is experiencing what I think is one of the most horrifically bright-line cases of imperial blowback that we've seen throughout the 'war on terror,'" says Spencer Ackerman, journalist and author focused on U.S. military and foreign policy. Democracy Now! is an independent global news hour that airs on over 1,500 TV and radio stations Monday through Friday. Watch our livestream at democracynow.org Mondays to Fridays 8-9 a.m. ET. Subscribe to our Daily Email Digest: https://www.democracynow.org/subscribe

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