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we have a good 100 plus bases right now

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that are like ready to be deployed now

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that it's giving coverage from other PL

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platforms it really just sent us to the

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Moon back in 2021 we released an IGN

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inside story about the PlayStation home

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fans refusing to let it die where we

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took a look at a few different homemade

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Recreations of the short-lived but much

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Lov social space for PlayStation 3

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during this documentary we met nagato a

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Content developer working on destination

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home a nonprofit project attempting to

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revive PlayStation home and restore the

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Social Hub for future generations to

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experience the restoration of

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PlayStation Home home was extremely

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ambitious after the original social

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space was closed Not only was the

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service lost but so was its data home

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wasn't on a disc or on a cartridge and

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you couldn't play it offline it lived

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completely within the servers that are

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now gone forever that didn't stop Nago

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and the destination home team from

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dreaming big though even when it closed

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I was trying to conceive like yo there's

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got to be somebody out there with the

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same interest like home was such a great

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game somebody got to be smart enough to

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figure out how like you know the client

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server works from the actual console to

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like th itself so few years later voila

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here I am at the time of our documentary

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the team after cobbling together their

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cash data had built a working version of

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home but it was a purely single player

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experience serving more like a walking

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museum than a thriving Social Hub in its

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infancy the idea of having an active and

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public server you know the whole point

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of home was simply a pipe dream two

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years later though that dream has made

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significant progress the destination

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home team have created a working online

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experience and are several steps closer

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to fulfilling their thriving Social Hub

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fantasies I reached back out to Nago to

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not only talk about the development of

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the journey since we last spoke but to

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also test out the playable version of

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PlayStation home that's restored by its

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fans this is an inside stories

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epilog I just remember just spamming

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hello and I'm like this is insane this

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is insane like I just remember being in

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Discord with like the development team

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and it's just like a real Resurgence of

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emotions that happened that really gave

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us even more Drive I would say in

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October 2022 destination home finally

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launched its first closed beta for its

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biggest supporters and contributors what

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you're seeing right now is actual

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footage of PlayStation home being played

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online with other fans over 7 years

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after the servers were shut down for

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good it's by no means a complete package

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but it is a landmark achievement for

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destination home what's functional now

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for a closed beta is our ability to have

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qual region compatibility we have

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founded a way where we could take like

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European spaces Japanese for example and

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put it into basically just like one

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massive server if that makes sense we've

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enabled purchasing features in terms of

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not like really purchasing store content

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that is still in to come but if you had

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like original clothes and stuff like

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that we inputed that

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in to be clear on this point Nago uses

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the word purchasing as a substitute for

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freely acquiring items from the old

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purchasing system destination home has

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always and will always be a nonprofit

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project there are no microt transactions

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at all if you had your original PSN

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account and you bought stuff live on

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home all of your items as long it's been

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donated to us or we archived it your

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services that you purchase will

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basically be alive I don't know if you

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can see on the screen right now these

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clothes that I'm wearing I purchased way

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back in like

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2012 destination home is religiously

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committed to the idea of recreating the

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entire experience what you're seeing

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right now is their first toe dipped into

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the Central Plaza Pond but their plans

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for a full Recreation they're big we are

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currently right now for Clos beta 2 have

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like 13 spaces that we've hand selected

02:03:06

from feedback from our members overall

02:03:08

we have a good 100 plus baces right now

02:03:11

that are like ready to be deployed back

02:03:13

in 2021 the destination home team's data

02:03:16

pool was limited collectively they comb

02:03:18

through all of their PS3s for all the

02:03:20

store data that they could find mind

02:03:22

soliciting whatever local or Cache files

02:03:24

any home fans had left on their Dusty

02:03:26

PS3s with the goal of being able to

02:03:28

reverse engineer and restore the code at

02:03:31

that time we were on 1.0 client or 1.0

02:03:36

we basically went through many

02:03:38

iterations to get the last client

02:03:39

working both on PlayStation 3 and rpcs3

02:03:44

emulators during that time as well we

02:03:47

successfully obtained about like 300

02:03:49

plus unique caches through you know

02:03:51

various means of like data capture so

02:03:54

during your video in IGN we just had an

02:03:57

influx of people just coming in the

02:03:58

Discord or dming me through Twitter

02:04:01

Reddit even PSN they found my

02:04:03

PlayStation Network you know just

02:04:05

donating data so all of these things

02:04:07

combined has really Advanced the project

02:04:09

to a point where now we are ready for

02:04:11

close beta

02:04:14

2 Nag's own admission the documentary

02:04:17

helped more eyeballs were now on the

02:04:19

project and with that came more hardcore

02:04:21

plac home fans generously offering their

02:04:23

cash data after the IGN coverage it was

02:04:27

really a big big boom I know right now

02:04:30

haven't checked I know there's at least

02:04:32

8,000 8 8,400 people in the Discord

02:04:35

alone even guys like Wario 64 retweets

02:04:38

my stuff sometimes so now that it's giv

02:04:41

coverage from other platforms I'm able

02:04:43

to restore data faster cuz people are

02:04:45

wanting to donate it really just sent us

02:04:47

to the Moon I saw this love and support

02:04:50

firsthand in the comment section

02:04:52

overwhelming Nostalgia and support for

02:04:54

the for long lost social

02:04:56

platform however not everyone was

02:04:59

convinced that PlayStation Home needed

02:05:00

to return with plenty of the audience

02:05:02

pointing out the existence of modern

02:05:04

Alternatives primarily VR chat after

02:05:07

bringing this sentiment up with nugo he

02:05:09

immediately began to make a passionate

02:05:11

defense for PlayStation Home the thing

02:05:13

what I would say with home has is like a

02:05:15

nostalgic Factor right people remember

02:05:18

home based on like their events like

02:05:20

FIFA Arena

02:05:22

where they had the 2010 World Soccer

02:05:24

events they had E3 stuff whenever they

02:05:26

played home they were like oh man I

02:05:27

remember when I was in Middle School and

02:05:29

E3 came out and I won this little award

02:05:31

we have a sister project called PS1

02:05:33

people still play Socom people still

02:05:35

play MotorStorm we have like you know

02:05:37

people in a Lobby Warhawk just still

02:05:39

playing those old games so Virtual

02:05:42

Worlds now are going more into the nft

02:05:44

cryptocurrency kind of sphere so for me

02:05:47

a lot of social worlds when they bring

02:05:49

that element it kind of obious skates

02:05:51

and you know minimalizes their player

02:05:53

base when home is kind of like here if

02:05:55

you like Little Big Planet we got stuff

02:05:57

for you if you like Motor Storm we got

02:05:59

stuff for you if you're like nag and

02:06:01

just want to play Dance Dance Revolution

02:06:02

all day that's for you also filled with

02:06:05

a similar level of nostalgia I perhaps

02:06:08

naively could see nagato's Point

02:06:10

PlayStation Home always felt like it had

02:06:12

a level of sincerity it always had that

02:06:14

feeling of a place that was built purely

02:06:16

to bring fans of PlayStation games

02:06:18

together modern metaverses can feel

02:06:20

cynical from the outset appearing to use

02:06:22

your love of a franchise to manipulate

02:06:24

you into spending more money as I say

02:06:26

these words the logical part of my brain

02:06:28

tells me that there was no doubt intent

02:06:30

of this kind from Sony but at least in

02:06:32

terms of what was presented PlayStation

02:06:34

Home always felt a little more wholesome

02:06:36

and cleaner than that and a good chunk

02:06:38

of the audience perhaps through their

02:06:39

Rose tinted PlayStation Home Nostalgia

02:06:41

goggles tend to agree I see many people

02:06:44

with nice comments about you know how

02:06:46

home changed their lives I know people

02:06:48

literally met up on home have kids now I

02:06:51

know people who have longtime friends on

02:06:53

home even I still talk to some longtime

02:06:55

friends here and there just honestly

02:06:57

seeing the community's respect for their

02:07:00

project overall is something that gives

02:07:02

me the drive to do it I mean you have

02:07:04

companies like Facebook probably

02:07:05

dropping millions of dollars billions of

02:07:07

dollars on certain projects to kind of

02:07:10

emulate what home did it's always Tony

02:07:12

for me they were too far ahead for that

02:07:15

time same thing like the Vita same thing

02:07:17

with home I mean you had these really

02:07:19

extensive cool projects that now have a

02:07:21

big Market I believe the metaverse is

02:07:24

the next chapter for the

02:07:27

internet with a successful close beta in

02:07:29

the can and a second on the horizon it

02:07:32

feels like only a matter of time until

02:07:33

PlayStation home is once again

02:07:35

accessible to the world so I had to ask

02:07:37

can they see an end of this restoration

02:07:39

project in sight I would say no with a

02:07:42

project like this of course we would

02:07:44

want a 100% snapshot of how home has ran

02:07:48

well I feel like there will be a time

02:07:49

where it home has become so stable that

02:07:52

we've hit maybe like production level

02:07:54

we're ready to deploy for everybody on

02:07:56

Discord it's been running fine for one

02:07:58

or two years after the closed beta test

02:08:01

I would say yes but overall just kind of

02:08:03

one of those things where the ball is

02:08:04

always rolling I would say inevitably

02:08:07

with any online project particularly one

02:08:09

developed by fans in their spare time

02:08:11

there was the elephant in the room that

02:08:13

we'd yet to discuss safety for me I do

02:08:16

not want my project and cuz I know a lot

02:08:18

of fan projects go through that I want

02:08:20

everyone to have fun on home I don't

02:08:22

want nobody to experience any form of

02:08:24

bullying that takes the fun out of

02:08:26

gaming and I think honestly people game

02:08:28

for one reason to have fun nag reassures

02:08:31

me that the team is working hard to make

02:08:33

sure moderation will exist in

02:08:34

destination home but after working so

02:08:37

hard on a restoration project do they

02:08:38

ever think they'd be tempted to expand

02:08:40

the platform and maybe even develop

02:08:42

their own content for it yeah now Last

02:08:44

of Us Min games no Grant even though

02:08:46

granto space would be nice or anything

02:08:48

like that that's not their true sense of

02:08:49

home if it came out that's our model we

02:08:52

put it in if home actually had bugs and

02:08:54

glitches that broke the game that's

02:08:56

stuff we all fix too when I last met

02:08:58

nagato I asked him what his ultimate

02:08:59

goal was what would be the moment he

02:09:01

could pause reflect and be proud of what

02:09:04

they achieved his answer was sweet and

02:09:06

surprisingly modest ultimate goal is to

02:09:09

get a online client working for the

02:09:11

Playstation 3 Once I see another person

02:09:14

in the lobby and I said hello and hello

02:09:15

we can actually say hello together

02:09:17

that's something our team that that's

02:09:18

the day considering that achieved this

02:09:20

and Beyond it felt like it was time for

02:09:22

a new ultimate goal when we actually had

02:09:25

non-developers and regular people play

02:09:27

our game and we seen them take all

02:09:30

screenshots and post it on Twitter or in

02:09:32

the Discord or literally seeing that uh

02:09:35

Resurgence of Happiness that's what I

02:09:37

would say it'll be a day we were had it

02:09:39

on a small scale we had like maybe 10

02:09:41

people to lobby but really seeing a ton

02:09:44

of players like you go to sodium there's

02:09:45

like 24 players in this Konami Dance

02:09:47

Dance Revolution and you see me and I'm

02:09:49

trying I'm trying to beat everybody in

02:09:51

the you know seeing people with their

02:09:52

original clothing items to have people

02:09:55

you know enjoy that that's that's the

02:09:57

day if you'd like to get involved with

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[Music]

02:10:19

[Music]

02:10:28

20133 was a major year for video games

02:10:31

the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 had

02:10:34

overstayed their welcome and consumers

02:10:35

were looking for the next big thing is

02:10:37

it too late in its life cycle to get a

02:10:39

PlayStation 3 and should I just wait it

02:10:42

was the perfect time to announce the

02:10:43

next generation of PlayStation hardware

02:10:45

and Sony did just that this is the

02:10:47

foundation of our next Generation

02:10:49

platform PlayStation

02:10:53

full while on the surface this may have

02:10:55

seemed like just another console launch

02:10:57

it was only 2 years since the infamous

02:10:59

hack of the PlayStation Network one year

02:11:01

since the Vita failed to set the market

02:11:03

on fire and over 6 years since the

02:11:06

launch of the PS3 for Sony this needed

02:11:08

to be a home run on this episode of IG

02:11:10

and Rewind we'll be taking a close look

02:11:12

at the launch of Sony's fourth

02:11:13

PlayStation console and dive deep into

02:11:15

how the PlayStation 4 is launched would

02:11:17

set the groundwork for one of Sony's

02:11:18

most successful video game Endeavors yet

02:11:21

this is the launch and reveal of the

02:11:22

PlayStation

02:11:27

4 rumors of the next generation of

02:11:30

PlayStation started popping up online

02:11:33

via LinkedIn job hostings uh they found

02:11:35

the CV on LinkedIn of a guy named aelas

02:11:37

he worked at PlayStation uh for about 14

02:11:39

years starting in 1998 and what's

02:11:41

interesting on his TV is that he worked

02:11:42

on something called the next generation

02:11:44

PlayStation he worked on PS2 PS3 vaita

02:11:46

but he worked on this thing he only

02:11:47

calls next generation PlayStation we

02:11:49

don't know what that is but we assume

02:11:50

it's the Next Generation console

02:11:51

PlayStation 4 while numerous industry

02:11:54

experts were speculating And discussing

02:11:56

why they wanted a new PlayStation there

02:11:58

wasn't any official confirmation from

02:12:00

Sony regarding a new console rumors hit

02:12:02

the internet about the PlayStation 4

02:12:04

Sony's next Home console very exciting

02:12:07

what's a Cod Nam uh code named orbis oh

02:12:10

that's a hell of a name wo that's thing

02:12:11

now there's the rumors have a few

02:12:13

details to them including the CPU and

02:12:15

GPU which I don't think are as exciting

02:12:18

as a couple other pieces of uh

02:12:20

information including fact that it

02:12:21

apparently will not play Playstation 3

02:12:23

games wo there's going to be some sort

02:12:25

of restriction placed on the system's

02:12:27

ability to play used games now we also

02:12:29

heard that there's a potential holiday

02:12:31

release for 2013 so with all that said

02:12:34

Colin uh true or fake uh it's probably

02:12:37

true but I don't know I mean so we did

02:12:39

reach out to Sony of course uh we talked

02:12:41

to our people there uh their usual line

02:12:42

when they don't want to tell us anything

02:12:44

is we don't comment on rumors and

02:12:45

speculation PlayStation 4s controller

02:12:47

seems to have leaked Scott and these are

02:12:49

very exciting times now uh the story

02:12:50

comes by way of Destructoid who posted a

02:12:52

picture this is the picture but we'll

02:12:53

have a better version of it obviously

02:12:55

appearing on your screen um of what

02:12:57

looks like a PlayStation 4 devkit and a

02:12:58

PlayStation 4 controller and a source

02:13:00

indicates to ig that that controller is

02:13:02

100% real so there is no speculation

02:13:04

about it that speculation wouldn't last

02:13:06

too long though and here we go Sony will

02:13:09

be making a big announcement on February

02:13:11

20th and all signs point to it being the

02:13:13

PlayStation 4 playstation.com is

02:13:15

advertising a meeting to be held on

02:13:17

February 20th at 600 p.m. Eastern along

02:13:20

with the invitation see the future we

02:13:22

believe that PlayStation 4 represents a

02:13:25

significant shift from thinking of

02:13:27

PlayStation as merely a box or a console

02:13:30

to thinking of PlayStation as a leading

02:13:32

Authority on play this is the foundation

02:13:35

of our next Generation platform

02:13:37

PlayStation

02:13:42

4 today Sony held a special pres event

02:13:45

in New York City and they had tons of

02:13:47

huge announcements for us let's get to

02:13:49

it first off the big one the PlayStation

02:13:52

4 is official and it's coming as soon as

02:13:54

holiday 2013 it will have an x86 CPU 8

02:13:58

gigs of system RAM and what Sony is

02:14:00

calling an enhanced PC GPU and a

02:14:02

supercharged PC architecture it will be

02:14:04

capable of running gorgeous Unreal

02:14:06

Engine for games and even have millions

02:14:09

of objects moving in real time on the

02:14:11

Havoc engine you'll apparently be able

02:14:13

to turn off the system while playing and

02:14:14

pick up where you left off just by

02:14:16

turning it back on dedicated always on

02:14:18

Hardware puts a huge focus on social

02:14:21

functionality where apps on VA

02:14:23

smartphones and tablets allow you to

02:14:25

chat even when you're away from your PS4

02:14:28

but we didn't just get to see the new

02:14:29

console take a look at the new

02:14:31

controller it's officially called the

02:14:33

Dualshock 4 it has enhanced Rumble

02:14:36

reduced latency a small touchpad and a

02:14:39

light bar to track its movements it also

02:14:41

has a share button but more on that in a

02:14:43

bit not going to lie that looks pretty

02:14:44

hot to me I'm Jamon Hatfield host and

02:14:47

producer here at IGN you may recognize

02:14:49

me from such shows as Games scoop what

02:14:51

was the hype like around the office when

02:14:53

the PS4 was initially announced so pre

02:14:55

E3 when they had that PlayStation

02:14:57

conference and then the controller leak

02:14:59

like a week before yeah I think that was

02:15:01

a little bit um was a little bit muted

02:15:03

at that point it was like like I said

02:15:05

sounds great on paper it's the next

02:15:07

PlayStation it's more powerful easier to

02:15:09

develop for cool sounds good it was as

02:15:12

things started to fall apart for Xbox

02:15:14

you know it's just these you see uh the

02:15:16

first party platforms they like they

02:15:18

rise and fall they come and go and like

02:15:20

yeah going into PS3 Sony had gotten

02:15:23

cocky after two generations dominating

02:15:25

the industry and then that bit him in

02:15:27

the butt and then you see the same thing

02:15:29

happening with Xbox when they announced

02:15:30

when you watch that reveal of the Xbox

02:15:32

One it almost seems like they don't even

02:15:35

uh think of son is a competitor anymore

02:15:37

like they want to compete with Amazon

02:15:39

and cable companies and and Comcast so

02:15:42

the whole reveal there's very little

02:15:44

talk Of video games during that reveal

02:15:46

there's talk about how it's going to be

02:15:47

the center of your entertainment living

02:15:49

room and you're going to run your T box

02:15:51

through it and it's going to change the

02:15:52

way you watch sports MH and uh yeah it's

02:15:55

probably going to require an online

02:15:56

connection and you can't trade your

02:15:58

games and you might not even be able to

02:15:59

play used games on it so it's like what

02:16:02

it just it sounded worse and worse the

02:16:04

more we heard about it and that just

02:16:05

made the PlayStation 4 sound better and

02:16:07

better and better yeah and then of

02:16:08

course like sort of like the the death

02:16:11

blow was

02:16:15

E3 this is going to be a bigger than

02:16:17

normal E3 with a lot of focus on Next

02:16:19

Generation consoles E3 2013 was an

02:16:22

electrifying conference because not only

02:16:24

was Sony showing off their new console

02:16:26

but Microsoft was also showing off their

02:16:28

new Xbox even though Microsoft's press

02:16:30

conference was aired before Sony's by a

02:16:32

few hours the reception of their event

02:16:34

was received in a less than Stellar way

02:16:37

and ultimately led to diminished sales

02:16:39

and a major blow to their Brand's

02:16:41

reputation but that's another story for

02:16:43

another time fortunately we have a

02:16:45

product for people who aren't able to

02:16:47

get some form of connectivity it's

02:16:49

called Xbox 360 right later that evening

02:16:52

all eyes are on Sony and the PlayStation

02:16:56

4 like an hour and we're like yeah this

02:16:59

is okay we got called back here in an

02:17:01

hour and Dam and I were like it's been a

02:17:03

solid conference they're I'm waiting for

02:17:05

The Knockout Punch and then they just

02:17:07

came out and beat the body to death like

02:17:10

I mean it's six years 6 and a half years

02:17:15

I've covered PlayStation for IGN I'm so

02:17:16

used to them coming out and just

02:17:18

screwing it up they're like no we got

02:17:21

this oh my God E3 2006 they screwed up

02:17:25

then and they announced $600 $599 us God

02:17:29

I don't know so where do we begin you

02:17:31

have to it was backloaded this whole

02:17:34

thing yeah I mean like they were teasing

02:17:36

us the whole way I L ex you wanted more

02:17:39

I wanted more they show they showed a

02:17:41

hell of a lot of the Bombshells were the

02:17:43

price the biggest question on everyone's

02:17:45

mind was saved for the end of the

02:17:47

conference everyone wants to know what's

02:17:49

it going to cost so many revealed that

02:17:51

the PlayStation 4 which arrives this

02:17:53

holiday season will be priced at

02:17:56

$399

02:17:57

€399 and 349 lb Sterling 20% less than

02:18:02

the Xbox One damn the most notable thing

02:18:05

to come out of the entire press

02:18:07

conference you know besides the console

02:18:09

itself wasn't an announcement for

02:18:11

anything Sony was selling but a direct

02:18:14

shot at Microsoft Xbox On's always

02:18:16

online DRM this is how you share your

02:18:19

games on PS4

02:18:21

[Music]

02:18:30

thanks this bold jab at the competition

02:18:33

was what Sony needed to hammer its

02:18:35

gaming first messaging and solidify its

02:18:38

player first stance for the next

02:18:40

generation of consoles I think they

02:18:41

handled it as pretty they took that

02:18:43

probably as pretty as far as you could

02:18:45

um without being like

02:18:47

distasteful the PS4 reveal was a massive

02:18:50

success and Sony managed to not only

02:18:52

reinvigorate the PlayStation brand but

02:18:55

also amplify the competition's confusing

02:18:58

messaging around its next Xbox console

02:19:01

there were lots of people who gave their

02:19:02

opinions on that issue to my Twitter

02:19:03

account before E3 it's not that our

02:19:05

Hardware policies are decided strictly

02:19:07

based on user reaction like this but

02:19:09

when we were thinking about what we had

02:19:10

to bring across and how to bring it

02:19:12

across it was a very useful Source

02:19:14

considering how Sony referenced the

02:19:16

feedback Microsoft had received towards

02:19:17

the end of its conference it appears

02:19:19

that even if the backlash didn't dictate

02:19:20

take what the Japanese company decided

02:19:22

to do with the PS4 it was happy to

02:19:24

capitalize on the negative reaction SE

02:19:26

Japan Asia president hirashi kanano

02:19:28

added as of now I feel like we're

02:19:30

getting a very positive response for

02:19:32

this system we made a list of what

02:19:33

people expected from us debating over

02:19:35

each point with user feedback forming

02:19:37

the main basis for the list the software

02:19:39

makers are also telling us that they

02:19:41

feel like they really make some fun

02:19:42

stuff with it a new platform always

02:19:44

provides the basis for new forms of play

02:19:46

so I'd like to see it connect to a

02:19:48

revitalization of the marketplace

02:19:50

it's the fact that I think for E3 and

02:19:52

what E3 is designed to be Playstation

02:19:55

One it I think Microsoft had better

02:19:57

games I was more excited about their

02:19:59

game lineup but only because I already

02:20:01

knew they you know they came out and

02:20:02

showed like updated versions for

02:20:03

PlayStation games right I was like

02:20:05

that's awesome and then what I got

02:20:06

excited about the PlayStation was the

02:20:08

price and then you know standing up for

02:20:09

gamers like we've talked about and doing

02:20:11

all these different things that's two

02:20:13

different this is the time more than

02:20:14

ever where you need to win on policy

02:20:16

because you know a few years ago Sony

02:20:18

announced the PS3 and they said it's

02:20:19

$599 us and people said no and had they

02:20:22

said yes game consoles would forever be

02:20:24

$600 plus but they weren't and we

02:20:27

changed that right and we spoke with our

02:20:29

wallets and this time around Sony said

02:20:30

we're not going to do the used game

02:20:31

thing we're not going to rip people off

02:20:33

and they stopped that dead in its track

02:20:34

and if you're doing that you're an ass

02:20:37

and you're ripping people off and that's

02:20:38

the that's that's the tone they set and

02:20:40

that's more important than any game in

02:20:41

the world the games will come later but

02:20:43

if the platform doesn't rip you off at

02:20:44

the box it's a good place to start in

02:20:46

those first party conferences there's

02:20:47

always sort of a level of like one

02:20:48

upmanship and they're always trying to

02:20:50

out do each other but that year is like

02:20:51

I've never seen any of the first pars be

02:20:54

so blatant in their like thumbs up to

02:20:57

Xbox like Jack Tron just they they

02:21:00

addressed um deliberately the fact that

02:21:03

their console was not going to require

02:21:05

any sort of online connection you can

02:21:06

trade your games you can play used games

02:21:08

they're just like they they're every

02:21:10

they hit the the every week point that

02:21:12

Xbox had sort of revealed for themselves

02:21:15

yeah Sony took advantage of

02:21:21

the excitement around the PlayStation 4

02:21:23

was nearing a cult-like status thanks to

02:21:26

its well-received E3 press conference

02:21:28

and effective marketing campaign Sony

02:21:30

had positioned itself to become the

02:21:31

console leader of this new generation

02:21:34

early into its launch window and then

02:21:36

you know of course on launch day was

02:21:38

like there was so much more excitement

02:21:41

like we have a video on IGN about this

02:21:43

Mass unboxing of PS4s in the office CU

02:21:45

been pretty much everyone in the IGN

02:21:46

office had pre-order one let me just say

02:21:48

we I don't think we had enough people to

02:21:49

do a fun video like that for the Xbox

02:21:51

One what's up everybody it's me Greg

02:21:53

Miller and our personal PS4s have

02:21:54

arrived here at the IGN office but

02:21:56

everybody's so excited we all wanted to

02:21:58

do an unboxing video by ourselves so we

02:22:00

said hey we'll do it all at once you

02:22:02

guys ready yeah all right then 3 2 one

02:22:09

what there it is got the controller

02:22:12

right here let's take a look at the Dual

02:22:13

sh

02:22:16

bit hand like have the do the

02:22:20

PlayStation Plus the best part about

02:22:22

this is that if you hook it up to your

02:22:24

TV right now you be able Tolo one and

02:22:34

only didn't really have a buil-in

02:22:36

headset so nobody was ever talking in

02:22:39

PS3 multiplayer games very very nice

02:22:41

paging here that you can see the Wobble

02:22:43

the Playstation Infamous PlayStation 4

02:22:45

wobble it's because of these little dots

02:22:47

but don't worry about it it's okay

02:22:52

but it also comes with controller oh my

02:22:55

gosh we got the same that's why this is

02:22:57

the most revolutionary console ever made

02:22:59

since the GameCube at least this and

02:23:02

this is the world's best HDMI cable

02:23:05

because you know it came free in a box

02:23:07

well I'm going to do an in-depth walk

02:23:08

through of this power cable now starting

02:23:10

at one end so I'm not sure what this end

02:23:13

is the console looks pretty amazing it's

02:23:16

got the kind I I I love what they

02:23:22

PS4 it looks great I'm going to go make

02:23:25

out with this now some of us have to get

02:23:26

back to

02:23:27

work well that's the unboxing of the

02:23:29

PlayStation 4 it was very entertaining

02:23:31

as a gamer to watch and it was exciting

02:23:33

to cover as an nigan employee so yeah I

02:23:36

don't think I I wouldn't have I have no

02:23:38

notes the launch of the PlayStation 4

02:23:41

was lightning in a bottle the system was

02:23:43

well on its way to becoming one of the

02:23:45

bestselling consoles of all time topping

02:23:47

the original PlayStation at over 117

02:23:50

million units sold at the time of this

02:23:52

video thanks to some smart marketing and

02:23:55

one of the most effective video game

02:23:56

press conferences today Sony was able to

02:23:58

revive the PlayStation brand and launch

02:24:00

one of the most successful consoles ever

02:24:04

thank you so much for being here good

02:24:06

night

02:24:40

show

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02:25:43

play the PlayStation 5 Pro was just

02:25:47

revealed and joining us today is Richard

02:25:49

lad better from digital Foundry it is an

02:25:52

honor having you on the show today to

02:25:53

discuss the technology and your reaction

02:25:57

to this reveal so what were your

02:26:01

thoughts uh well first of all welcome

02:26:03

thanks for having me um well Where Do We

02:26:05

Begin I

02:26:07

think it's a tricky one right because um

02:26:10

the price is is crazy high we've never

02:26:12

seen a console that's quite this

02:26:15

expensive before and the presentation

02:26:18

was kind of weird it wasn't like any

02:26:20

Mark's early presentation I've seen in

02:26:22

the past before this guy is an a

02:26:24

technology evangelist he's got a vision

02:26:26

for the future of gaming and typically

02:26:29

he's given the opportunity to express

02:26:32

that Vision in his own words with no

02:26:34

real limits on you know the topics he's

02:26:37

going to cover so um the day before uh

02:26:41

the transmission um you know it said oh

02:26:44

it's going to be 9 minutes long it's

02:26:45

like well you know the road to

02:26:46

PlayStation 5 was 52 I went back and

02:26:49

looked at uh the PlayStation meeting

02:26:51

2016 where they talked about uh PS4 Pro

02:26:54

that was getting on for an hour as well

02:26:57

so um initially my thought my thoughts

02:26:59

were well how much can he actually talk

02:27:02

about in um in nine minutes and secondly

02:27:05

they've got a real problem here because

02:27:07

they've got to talk about an enhanced

02:27:09

PlayStation experience but at the same

02:27:11

time they can't say that the standard

02:27:14

PlayStation experience is in any way

02:27:16

deficient so I thought that the way that

02:27:18

they would do this would be to talk

02:27:20

about the base PlayStation 5 first and

02:27:22

then go on to the pro which is exactly

02:27:24

what they did which is fine except that

02:27:27

cut further into the 9 minutes so I

02:27:29

guess we got maybe seven minutes of PS5

02:27:32

Pro really high level stuff here and we

02:27:36

actually know a lot more about the

02:27:39

machine based on the leaks that started

02:27:42

like March

02:27:43

2024 and that was a little disappointing

02:27:46

because we've got like the barest

02:27:48

details but we don't have any context we

02:27:51

don't have the vision behind of uh those

02:27:54

details so that was uh slightly Odd as

02:27:58

well and um you know if we go back to

02:27:59

the PlayStation meeting for PS4 Pro we

02:28:02

had a similar presentation that was a

02:28:04

bit lacking on YouTube uh where you know

02:28:07

they were trying to talk about the

02:28:08

benefits of 4K and HDR without having 4K

02:28:11

and HDR and now they're talking about

02:28:14

sort of um this enhanced experience and

02:28:17

then they're trying to shoehorn that

02:28:18

into a pretty compromised YouTube stream

02:28:22

and that didn't quite work for me now at

02:28:25

that event we had 3 hours afterwards to

02:28:28

actually go Hands-On with the machine

02:28:29

there was no Hands-On this time around

02:28:31

there was a CNET um opportunity an

02:28:34

exclusive opportunity that didn't really

02:28:36

leave me any much the wiser so you know

02:28:40

I think it's almost like a retrograde

02:28:41

step compared to both the PS5 reveal

02:28:44

which was necessarily impacted by covid

02:28:47

there's not much that could be done

02:28:48

there and then going back to the

02:28:51

PlayStation 4 Pro reveal it was kind of

02:28:53

deficient compared to that as well

02:28:55

because nobody's actually seen it apart

02:28:57

from the guy at CNET the guy at CET

02:28:59

liked it we know that well great that's

02:29:02

that's awesome I'd like to I'd like to

02:29:04

see that myself um I think another thing

02:29:07

which um which sort of uh caused issues

02:29:10

for me is that the uh the representative

02:29:13

software that was used um in the the

02:29:18

presentation um wasn't the best choice

02:29:21

because the first party games are

02:29:24

actually really good on the base

02:29:25

PlayStation 5 they aren't really you

02:29:28

know the upgrades are going to be far

02:29:30

less pronounced than let's say for

02:29:31

example some of the Unreal Engine 5 uh

02:29:34

blurry games that didn't hit 60 frames

02:29:37

per second um those would have been much

02:29:39

better candidates for showing the

02:29:41

advantages of the machine right and well

02:29:43

what could I say I'm I'm really sort of

02:29:45

bagging on it um but you know I probably

02:29:48

would have done things a lot differently

02:29:49

if I in charge of it um yeah well maybe

02:29:53

you maybe you could dive into that a

02:29:55

little bit because I look at it and I'm

02:29:57

like okay you keep talking about

02:29:59

sharpness or you're talking about Ray

02:30:02

tracing but you're not really showing us

02:30:04

like where is the ray tracing in this

02:30:05

shot of Star Wars at the beginning of

02:30:07

the presentation it's just sort of water

02:30:10

that's not the best example of

02:30:12

reflective Ray tracing anyway anyway

02:30:14

like if you're talking about Shadows

02:30:17

okay maybe but I I think the Harry

02:30:19

Potter shot near the end of the the

02:30:21

presentation was a little bit better

02:30:23

representation of it but like you said

02:30:26

it was a very strange decision to talk

02:30:29

about pssr the PlayStation spectral

02:30:32

super resolution with a uh visual

02:30:36

demonstration of what it will do without

02:30:39

somebody like Mark cery diving into how

02:30:41

it actually works what it's actually

02:30:42

doing in the background in a in a more

02:30:45

meaningful way if you had the

02:30:47

opportunity what would you have changed

02:30:49

about how presented these tiny details

02:30:53

that showcase the power of the

02:30:54

PlayStation 5 Pro I think you need uh

02:30:57

better uh examples I think the Gran

02:30:59

Turismo one was pretty good because you

02:31:01

actually saw an effect that had

02:31:03

previously only been seen in the replays

02:31:06

and photo mode and stuff and it was

02:31:07

actually there in gamepl so that was

02:31:09

pretty cool but you know I would have

02:31:11

liked to have seen the stuff that we do

02:31:13

obviously uh which would be like you

02:31:16

know you see gaml you have freeze frames

02:31:19

you have zoom you have actual

02:31:20

explanation of what's going on there you

02:31:23

have a comparison against the standard

02:31:25

experience which they kind of shied away

02:31:27

from there because I think they can't

02:31:29

show that the standard machine which the

02:31:31

vast majority of people are going to buy

02:31:33

it can't be seen to be that deficient so

02:31:37

yeah that's that's kind of the way I'd

02:31:38

have done things um Hogwarts was a bit

02:31:40

weird I mean that's Unreal Engine 4

02:31:42

raate racing this is like the first

02:31:44

iteration of epic's RT implementations

02:31:47

there so it's it's not great compared to

02:31:49

you u5 I would have gone for a ue5 game

02:31:52

if they could have found one assuming

02:31:54

there there is one I'm sure there are so

02:31:57

yeah I guess you know when they sort of

02:31:59

started off with the Last of Us Part Two

02:32:02

you know obviously that's a PS4 game

02:32:03

that's not the game I would have chosen

02:32:05

to debut U PlayStation 5 Pro and

02:32:08

secondly the performance mode in The

02:32:10

Last of Us Part Two it's 1440p but it it

02:32:13

doesn't look that bad but you know pssr

02:32:17

I mean dlss has been I would say the

02:32:20

most transformative technology in the PC

02:32:23

space since its debut the second

02:32:25

iteration of it in

02:32:27

2020 and you know to say to um higher

02:32:31

end Enthusiast console users we've made

02:32:34

our own version of this check it out

02:32:36

it's really good look at this comparison

02:32:39

look at this Zoom that we've done up

02:32:41

against the uh standard model this is

02:32:42

like a game-changing Improvement

02:32:45

everything that dlss has done in the PC

02:32:47

space I think could have been deployed

02:32:50

on the uh on the pssr demos there but we

02:32:53

didn't really see it I'd like to have

02:32:55

seen just some screenshots uh done some

02:32:58

pgs out there get them out there get

02:33:00

people looking at it to actually you

02:33:01

know do their own

02:33:02

comparisons um yeah I'm just sort of a

02:33:05

bit baffled by all of it to be honest um

02:33:08

yeah what can I say it's kind of weird

02:33:11

yeah and it was also odd to make the

02:33:12

decision to take the shots and then put

02:33:14

it in a even smaller box where if you're

02:33:17

watching on your phone or you're

02:33:19

watching on a device that it's even

02:33:22

harder to tell what they're trying to

02:33:23

Showcase side by side absolutely yeah I

02:33:25

mean we've got our analytics on YouTube

02:33:27

that tell us the devices that people are

02:33:29

actually watching the content on and you

02:33:31

know basically the last time I looked

02:33:34

which I think was about a year ago it

02:33:35

was over 50% of people are watching on

02:33:37

their phone and that's numbers only

02:33:38

going to be going up so the concept that

02:33:41

you're having to like you know strain to

02:33:44

to actually see what the difference is

02:33:46

it could have been handled a lot better

02:33:48

I think what was one thing that the

02:33:50

PlayStation 5 Pro does that has you the

02:33:53

most excited out of all the tech that

02:33:55

was shown um absolutely pssr because um

02:33:59

if we look at what the prime

02:34:01

deficiencies are of the base PlayStation

02:34:04

5 experience at the moment in a lot of

02:34:06

multiplatform titles for sure the Sony

02:34:08

first party games they they've always

02:34:09

been really well optimized for the

02:34:11

hardware but you know unreal

02:34:13

engine5 and um you know other games like

02:34:17

Space Marine 2 that's a that's a good

02:34:18

example we should talk talk about

02:34:20

they're necessarily cramming in a huge

02:34:23

amount of of detail but to accommodate

02:34:25

that on the GPU they've got to lower the

02:34:27

resolution and then they upscale it

02:34:29

again using FSR 2 which isn't

02:34:31

particularly good pssr is is potentially

02:34:35

transformative because um I reckon even

02:34:38

you know let's say it's as good as xcss

02:34:40

from Intel or dlss from uh Nvidia we

02:34:43

don't know for sure cuz we haven't seen

02:34:45

it properly but um the point is that you

02:34:48

can actually use resolutions that low

02:34:50

and it will look fine on a 4K screen but

02:34:53

with the additional GPU horsepower

02:34:55

they'll be increasing the resolution as

02:34:57

well so you know I'd imagine those 720p

02:35:00

base resolution games on PS5 they'll be

02:35:02

like 900 or possibly even 1080p but the

02:35:05

transformative thing is the pssr

02:35:07

upscaling pass and if it's as good as we

02:35:11

hope it is it should be passing for

02:35:14

Native 4K or very very close to it and

02:35:17

you know what that means is that that's

02:35:19

more GPU horsepower that can be diverted

02:35:22

not to the amount of pixels that are

02:35:24

being rendered but to the quality of

02:35:26

those pixels which means also of course

02:35:29

that you can have stuff like uh raid

02:35:31

facing added to the rigs and I'm also

02:35:33

pretty sure I mean in the Sena article

02:35:35

they were talking about um 8K Gran

02:35:37

Turismo

02:35:38

7 uh which you know that won't be

02:35:42

running at Native 8K it will be using

02:35:44

pssr and that's you know I want to see

02:35:46

those screenshots man you know I want to

02:35:48

play the game I eight as I said in our

02:35:50

DF direct last night our 8K capture

02:35:52

cards are ready for this we want to see

02:35:54

we want to see how they're doing it we

02:35:56

want to see how good pssr is um with

02:35:59

Ratchet and Clank and Horizon forbidden

02:36:01

West we can actually put those

02:36:04

head-to-head against the PC Technologies

02:36:06

xss and dlss we can see just how good

02:36:09

the um the Technologies are so it's a

02:36:12

bit

02:36:13

disappointing this is going to sound

02:36:15

incredibly arrogant it's a bit

02:36:16

disappointing that we didn't get to see

02:36:18

it and we have still haven't seen it

02:36:20

based on the quality of the presentation

02:36:22

because you know if the stars are

02:36:25

aligned pssr is going to be gamechanging

02:36:28

for the console space and obviously

02:36:30

machine learning in general I mean the

02:36:31

PS5 Pros machine learning silicons like

02:36:34

300 tops it's not insignificant in terms

02:36:37

of the amount of compute power that's

02:36:40

there and you know that could just be

02:36:42

the beginning I mean if you look at what

02:36:43

Nvidia have done with you know Ray

02:36:44

reconstruction frame Generation all

02:36:47

using that machine learning silicon

02:36:49

there's no reason why that shouldn't be

02:36:51

coming to console as well and you know

02:36:53

pssr is just the beginning hopefully

02:36:56

yeah I mean I I agree that technology is

02:37:00

something I would have liked to learn

02:37:01

more about but besides the one recreated

02:37:06

demonstration of what it's going to do

02:37:08

he didn't really dive into it and it's

02:37:09

one of the coolest pieces of technology

02:37:11

that PlayStation is currently touting

02:37:14

for their platform it's like Ray tracing

02:37:16

is nice and um what was the other

02:37:19

feature that they talk about things like

02:37:21

game boost are interesting but how does

02:37:23

all that work behind the scenes right

02:37:26

yeah game boost is really interesting uh

02:37:28

we could be looking let's let's cross

02:37:30

our fingers here we could actually be

02:37:31

looking at a lock 60 FES per second in

02:37:33

Elder wiing oh yeah which would be a

02:37:36

console

02:37:37

first with even without any upgrades but

02:37:40

there's other stuff which I'm finding

02:37:42

quite interesting is that um uh when um

02:37:45

PS4 games were kind of upgraded to run

02:37:47

on PS5 the Developers had to um move

02:37:51

those existing games onto the new sdks

02:37:53

in order to tap into the new PS5 uh

02:37:56

features what's happening with PS5 Pro

02:37:58

is that they've recognized that that was

02:38:00

a weakness and um pssr is going to be

02:38:04

able to be integrated into games that

02:38:06

were created on prior sdks and that's

02:38:09

pretty awesome because that means that

02:38:11

it there's a a fast and simple path for

02:38:14

developers to be able to access what I

02:38:16

think is going to be the killer feature

02:38:18

of uh PS5 Pro

02:38:20

on the library of games that are already

02:38:22

out there uh it's potentially quite

02:38:24

exciting yeah that seems like an easy

02:38:26

win for them this is something that Xbox

02:38:29

has offered with some of their older

02:38:30

games just for purchasing the Xbox

02:38:33

series X and Playstation has now

02:38:35

implemented some cool technology that

02:38:38

they're referring to as game boost which

02:38:40

unfortunately wasn't really displayed in

02:38:42

the presentation so another well that's

02:38:46

an interesting how how how do you how

02:38:49

how do you demonstrate game boost

02:38:50

without showing that the experience is

02:38:53

deficient on your standard console

02:38:55

that's going to be selling millions of

02:38:56

units right that's the that's the big

02:38:58

quandry I mean if you go back to PS4 Pro

02:39:00

it was really easy it was like 4K

02:39:02

screens are coming and um here's the

02:39:05

machine that we're making for that oh

02:39:07

and by the way it's actually going to

02:39:08

improve performance if you still got a

02:39:10

1080p screen there's no display upgrades

02:39:14

to hang this piece of hardware on and

02:39:16

it's like well you know isn't

02:39:17

PlayStation 5 already 4K machine and

02:39:20

it's like well yes and and no but this

02:39:25

one definitely so yeah it's it's a crazy

02:39:28

marketing challenge there for sure were

02:39:30

there any differences that actually did

02:39:32

jump out to you when they were doing the

02:39:34

side by sides because for me it was the

02:39:36

artifacting in The Last of Us

02:39:38

presentation in the the compression

02:39:40

which was really unfortunate I was

02:39:42

curious were there any positive benefits

02:39:44

that you could actually gleam from what

02:39:47

they did decide to show us um I think it

02:39:49

was definitely the rate tracing in Gran

02:39:51

Turismo 7 because you know RT

02:39:53

Reflections on all the cars that's

02:39:55

that's pretty awesome and it's something

02:39:56

that's definitely not there on the on

02:39:59

the standard PlayStation 5 so that was

02:40:01

the one thing that definitely stood out

02:40:03

you could see that things were improved

02:40:05

and and and better on Hogwarts Legacy

02:40:08

but that was 30 frames per second which

02:40:10

you know isn't really tying into the

02:40:13

kind of vision that they were presenting

02:40:15

for the machine I've got to say I

02:40:17

thought that you know going into this

02:40:18

present ation it was like how are they

02:40:20

going to int introduce this machine and

02:40:22

I thought that was actually done pretty

02:40:24

well it was like 75% of users want to

02:40:27

use the performance modes but what if

02:40:29

you can have the performance mode that

02:40:32

actually hits 60 frames per second and

02:40:34

also have Fidelity uh quality as well I

02:40:37

think that was pretty compelling I

02:40:39

thought that was pretty good but you

02:40:40

know it all kind of went to pot with the

02:40:43

um examples that we used afterwards yeah

02:40:46

Cy did say 30fps is choppy so that was a

02:40:49

little bit of a a dig at developers who

02:40:52

choose to use that yeah going into it

02:40:56

could you explain like what does 67%

02:41:00

more compute units on the GPU 28% faster

02:41:03

memory resulting in 50 up to 50 to 45 to

02:41:09

50% faster rendering for like what does

02:41:11

all that mean can you like break that

02:41:14

down like what benefit will the user

02:41:16

actually be seeing from these statistics

02:41:17

that they put in the presentation

02:41:20

um yeah that kind of ties into if you're

02:41:22

talking like for like uh without any

02:41:24

game patches in theory we don't know

02:41:27

this because we haven't tested it and

02:41:29

they haven't actually provided detail um

02:41:32

the boost mode there should in theory

02:41:34

provide 45% of raw compute power to uh

02:41:39

those existing games so games that are

02:41:41

running with Dynamic resolution scaling

02:41:43

they should they should look clearer

02:41:46

they should maybe even hit the upper

02:41:47

bounds of the DRS range

02:41:49

they should look clearer games that have

02:41:51

a GPU related bottleneck uh that stops

02:41:55

them hitting their target frame rate

02:41:57

they should hit 60 frames per second

02:42:00

assuming that is the target frame rate

02:42:02

um that's kind of out the out of thee

02:42:05

box improvements now um if you're

02:42:07

talking about the new games obviously

02:42:09

again it it means that you can uh

02:42:11

increase resolution but the actual

02:42:13

multiplier as as it were from image

02:42:15

quality is going to come from pssr and

02:42:18

if you actually look at uh you know PS4

02:42:20

Pro compared to PS4 they actually

02:42:23

doubled GPU compute there it was like

02:42:25

you know uh forget 45% it was like

02:42:28

doubling it was like 100% more they

02:42:30

can't do that this time around um

02:42:33

because of the cost of making a chip

02:42:36

that large so what they have done is

02:42:38

introduced machine learning which is

02:42:40

which is the way forward I think it's

02:42:42

it's more about efficiency than Brute

02:42:44

Force efficiency plus some extra Brute

02:42:46

Force if you like but yeah that's that's

02:42:48

kind of that's kind of the way it's

02:42:50

going to work boost mode should be

02:42:51

pretty good I think if assuming we get

02:42:54

the full power of the of the machine and

02:42:57

then you know developers will be able to

02:42:59

use that extra boot Force to maybe use

02:43:02

you know more rate tracing effects or to

02:43:05

increase resolutions and then increase

02:43:07

them again so to speak with pssi all

02:43:10

sort of comes together there yeah I do

02:43:12

hope they allow more people to have

02:43:14

hands on there's not a lot of people in

02:43:16

this space who do analysis like you do

02:43:18

and I would like to see like even if

02:43:20

it's not digital Foundry just somebody

02:43:22

that understands how to Showcase 120

02:43:25

frames per second which was a feature

02:43:27

that they were touting or uh you know

02:43:30

here's what pssr is actually doing

02:43:32

because I I don't feel like their own

02:43:33

presentation fulfilled that need or the

02:43:36

or the CNet piece

02:43:38

unfortunately right sorry I mean the

02:43:41

point I was going to make is that um

02:43:43

pssr is such a big deal because um well

02:43:47

let's put it this way um Nvidia are now

02:43:49

saying that on some games they're seeing

02:43:52

dlss being used by um something like the

02:43:56

high 80s to 90% of users are using dlss

02:44:00

this is like a transformative technology

02:44:02

that's been widely adopted that everyone

02:44:04

wants because you know it's like minimal

02:44:07

image quality degradation in exchange

02:44:09

for a massive increase in performance

02:44:11

this is awesome it's never been seen

02:44:13

before on Console uh working

02:44:16

successfully um we've you know we've got

02:44:18

a PO substitute at the moment in the

02:44:20

form of um FSR 2 so to bring that to

02:44:23

consoles for the first time uh is pretty

02:44:26

awesome also you remember like going

02:44:28

back to the PS3 era they always used to

02:44:31

do those incredible Tech demos you

02:44:33

remember all of the duck the Ducks yes

02:44:35

everyone remembers the Ducks right yeah

02:44:37

you know I'm sure that they've got more

02:44:40

technology in the offing um you know

02:44:42

similar to the way envidia has moved on

02:44:43

to frame generation and Ray

02:44:45

reconstruction you know let's see some

02:44:47

of those demos you know make us EXC

02:44:49

excited about this thing you know not

02:44:51

just showing us the last of us again

02:44:53

yeah yeah right uh with the with the

02:44:56

Boost and the percentages that we're

02:44:57

talking about do you have any idea what

02:45:00

a comparable PC build would be to the

02:45:03

PlayStation 5 Pro because to me that

02:45:05

$700 price tag with you know a hundred

02:45:08

other $100 worth of other components put

02:45:11

you in the $800 range and at some point

02:45:13

I have to imagine people are saying

02:45:15

maybe I should just go to PC at this

02:45:17

point because this is this is quite

02:45:19

expensive yeah what do you imagine that

02:45:21

would cost probably a fair bit more I

02:45:24

mean you need to have uh the GPU that

02:45:27

you're going to need I mean if you

02:45:28

consider the a holistic view of all of

02:45:31

the different components the enhanced

02:45:33

raate racing no AMD GPU has that at the

02:45:36

moment uh the machine learning block no

02:45:39

AMD GPU has that it's almost like

02:45:42

essentially an Nvidia style feature set

02:45:44

but made by AMD um and the closest

02:45:48

equivalent CPU you'll be looking at

02:45:50

would be the RTX 4070 the 4060 is quite

02:45:53

close to base PlayStation 5 factoring

02:45:57

out machine learning and rate racing so

02:45:59

you're looking at a 4070 I looked on um

02:46:03

uh I think it was Amazon yesterday

02:46:05

amazon.com and the cheapest one of those

02:46:07

is

02:46:08

$540 so beyond that you've got to get a

02:46:11

CPU a motherboard memory power supply

02:46:15

case 2 terb SSD so it is going to wrap

02:46:20

you know the the costs are going to ramp

02:46:21

up right uh then you have your

02:46:24

mitigating factors which is that you

02:46:26

aren't paying however many dollars per

02:46:28

year for for the the Glorious honor of

02:46:31

being able to play online and have Cloud

02:46:34

saves uh so you've got to kind of you

02:46:36

know maybe sort of amortize costs over

02:46:39

the year to get a a proper idea of what

02:46:42

the actual comparison is um I do think

02:46:45

maybe though um we might be slightly

02:46:48

missing the point because if you

02:46:50

consider what the PS5 Pro is it's a

02:46:53

machine that's designed I don't think

02:46:55

it's for new owners right it's for

02:46:57

people that have got a PlayStation 5 but

02:47:00

they've got the disposable income to

02:47:02

have a better PlayStation 5 and I think

02:47:05

that these guys are going to have an

02:47:06

existing uh library of PS4 and PS5

02:47:10

titles and to make the jump out of the

02:47:14

PlayStation ecosystem and into the PC

02:47:17

ecosystem then then you've got to leave

02:47:20

those titles behind your entire library

02:47:22

that you might have amassed over like 10

02:47:24

years you've got to leave that behind

02:47:26

you've got to start from scratch um

02:47:29

which I think is probably going to be a

02:47:31

step too far so that's kind of my

02:47:34

viewpoint on that it's kind of like

02:47:36

quite an interesting thing to do the to

02:47:39

kind of weigh up the costs of individual

02:47:42

components and then Factor it up against

02:47:44

this $700 price point which is actually

02:47:47

much higher in Europe and certainly in

02:47:50

Japan and there the PC argument probably

02:47:53

becomes a bit more compelling however

02:47:56

what if you're not in the PlayStation

02:47:58

ecosystem because Microsoft is going to

02:48:00

be facing exactly the same cost

02:48:02

challenges as Sony and producing new

02:48:04

hardware you know and all of your Xbox

02:48:07

games are going to be on PC now what is

02:48:10

the remaining factor that stops you from

02:48:12

jumping across to PC and I think that

02:48:14

remaining factor is the fact that you

02:48:17

can't really have a PC attached to your

02:48:20

living room display and have a seamless

02:48:23

experience with a joyad you know you've

02:48:26

kind of we know this from PC handhelds

02:48:28

and actually Phil Spencer has kind of

02:48:30

admitted that the weakest part of

02:48:32

Windows on handhelds is

02:48:35

Windows Windows is going to need to

02:48:37

dramatically improve in order to to do

02:48:39

that but you know valve have basically

02:48:41

got there with steam deck right and uh

02:48:44

Microsoft are obviously going to do

02:48:45

something very similar so it's only a

02:48:47

matter of time before this choice

02:48:49

between console and PC is actually going

02:48:51

to become quite a lot more uh of a of a

02:48:55

head scratcher but probably less so if

02:48:57

you're in the Xbox ecosystem because you

02:49:00

know you'll be able to play your games

02:49:01

on whatever console you got and whatever

02:49:03

PC you got Sony though they've got a

02:49:06

different challenge but man this price

02:49:09

for the PS5 Pro is is is crazy high it's

02:49:13

nuts right yeah it it it is very high I

02:49:16

I've had sort of a theory about where

02:49:18

mic Microsoft could go with the console

02:49:20

if they're able to solve the challenge

02:49:23

of the the console user wanting to get

02:49:27

in on PC games by allowing storefronts

02:49:30

like epic gam store on the next console

02:49:33

whatever that may be while also

02:49:35

addressing the interface issues where

02:49:38

you know people don't want to install

02:49:39

new drivers and deal with all of that

02:49:41

stuff on Console they just want to sit

02:49:43

on the couch and turn it on if they can

02:49:45

solve that and the new console is more

02:49:47

open for the enthusiasts like you know

02:49:50

myself or yourself who want to get their

02:49:53

whole steam library or add all the

02:49:55

storefronts onto one box I I think that

02:49:58

would give Sony a run for their money

02:50:00

but let's focus back in on the the PS5

02:50:03

Pro uh for a second do do you think it's

02:50:06

too expensive 74% of users on IGN voted

02:50:10

and they think it's it's way too

02:50:11

expensive what are you thinking about

02:50:13

the price is this going to end up

02:50:15

limiting their sales what do you think I

02:50:17

think it obviously will limit their

02:50:19

sales um but there's always going to be

02:50:22

a core who will pay whatever they can in

02:50:25

order to get the best possible

02:50:26

experience and I think that's what this

02:50:27

machine is is is aimed at however with

02:50:31

that said this is breaking historical

02:50:34

precedence on on Console pricing yes you

02:50:37

I mean I saw the stuff from Jeff Keeley

02:50:39

about inflation adjusted prices and

02:50:41

whatnot but that's not the way the

02:50:44

consumer mentality works you know um and

02:50:47

PS4 Pro by the way was like $399 I seem

02:50:51

to recall um and now we're up to like

02:50:54

what is it you know $699 mhm uh there's

02:50:57

guys in Europe who are paying almost

02:50:58

double for a PS5 Pro than than they did

02:51:01

for a PS4 Pro which is which is kind of

02:51:04

crazy my theory on this and again I'm

02:51:06

just reminded of something that Phil

02:51:08

Spencer said which is that you know he's

02:51:10

questioning whether subsidizing people

02:51:13

to buy consoles is actually working

02:51:16

because um it's the same people buying

02:51:18

consoles gen over gen the amount of

02:51:21

people console Gamers isn't increasing

02:51:25

it's the same guys as buying new

02:51:27

hardware and um if you're not in if

02:51:30

you're if your subsidies are not

02:51:32

increasing the size of the overall

02:51:34

audience why are you having

02:51:36

subsidies um it's you know it's it's

02:51:39

it's not great and I think what we're

02:51:41

seeing with the PlayStation 5 Pro is

02:51:43

possibly an experiment from Sony and

02:51:45

saying well okay we'll continue to

02:51:47

subsidize a bit the standard unit but

02:51:51

the PS5 Pro we're going to see what

02:51:53

happens if we just sell it at Cost or

02:51:56

heaven forbid try to make some some

02:51:58

actual money on it and so I think this

02:52:00

is possibly why I mean going into this I

02:52:03

suspected that it would be a $600

02:52:05

console and we'd get a hair cut and

02:52:07

pricing on the standard model to to kind

02:52:09

of widen it out a bit instead it looks

02:52:11

like the standard model is staying where

02:52:13

it is and Sony has said that they're

02:52:15

having problems with cost reduction it's

02:52:17

going up and then yes yeah they raised

02:52:20

the price sorry yeah and then we've got

02:52:23

the um uh the issues with well where are

02:52:25

we going to what we going to do with the

02:52:26

PlayStation 5 Pro then it's got to be

02:52:29

more expensive $200 though no no disc

02:52:33

drive the no disc drive scenario I'm um

02:52:36

I knew it was happening that's why I

02:52:38

bought you can see in the background

02:52:39

there I bought one of those disc drives

02:52:42

because I knew this was going to happen

02:52:43

and if it didn't happen I could just

02:52:45

return it cynical but it worked anyway

02:52:48

the point is um if you've got here's the

02:52:51

weird thing if you're um marketing a pro

02:52:54

console and it has less features than

02:52:56

the standard console that's you know

02:52:58

$200 cheaper that's that's shocking and

02:53:02

let's consider the people that are going

02:53:03

to be buying PS5 Pro it's going to be

02:53:06

people that are deeply invested in the

02:53:07

PlayStation ecosystem you know they

02:53:10

bought the PlayStation 4 they probably

02:53:12

bought the four Pro they've got a lot of

02:53:14

disc games right surely you know the

02:53:16

transition to digital has gained

02:53:18

momentum over the years but the concept

02:53:21

that you know people who've got um

02:53:24

physical media can't actually run them

02:53:27

on their PS5 Pro unless they spend was

02:53:30

it $80 or $100 in the US um it's 100

02:53:34

pound in the UK and 100 Euros in uh in

02:53:38

Europe it's nuts yeah it's you know

02:53:41

that's not great so it's kind of like a

02:53:43

value hit there upon a value hit again

02:53:46

where we were expecting $600

02:53:49

so yes I mean that's that's sort of kind

02:53:52

of shocking I think that's what people

02:53:54

are taking aage at and I think quite

02:53:56

rightfully so thing is though consumer

02:53:58

electronics are just getting more

02:54:00

expensive to make and but we're now

02:54:03

we're you know obviously we're facing

02:54:04

the question of well when NextGen comes

02:54:06

along is that console going to be $700

02:54:09

surely not I didn't even think about

02:54:13

that like was it going to be $800 $900

02:54:16

for whatever the most powerful con

02:54:18

ends up being down the line uh it's sort

02:54:21

of a scary thought and those Enthusiast

02:54:24

users might be thinking to themselves

02:54:26

well why should I pay a premium for the

02:54:28

console if I'm going to be paying a

02:54:30

premium maybe I should get a PC because

02:54:32

then I can upgrade at my own pace when I

02:54:35

feel like I need an upgrade and I can

02:54:37

spend as much or as little as I want MH

02:54:41

yeah Food For Thought who do you think

02:54:43

should upgrade to the PlayStation 5 Pro

02:54:45

and who do you think should probably

02:54:47

just wait obviously people who don't

02:54:49

want to spend the money but but like who

02:54:51

do you think is is the target for this

02:54:55

upgrade like who would you recommend it

02:54:56

to as a friend it's basically going to

02:54:58

be those guys who've got the money to

02:54:59

spare who want the best of the best now

02:55:01

the question is this this is kind of at

02:55:04

odds with the concept of what a console

02:55:06

is which is a mainstream proposition you

02:55:09

know a games machine for the every man

02:55:12

this isn't that that's what the base

02:55:14

PlayStation 5 is for and uh I think if I

02:55:17

was recommending to a friend i' tell

02:55:19

them to go to Facebook Marketplace and

02:55:21

get one for like $350 or whatever you

02:55:24

know I got an Xbox series s from

02:55:27

Facebook Marketplace for £65 wow yeah

02:55:31

nice nicely done so that's my

02:55:33

recommendation there but you know the

02:55:35

people who should buy it you know are

02:55:36

the people who could afford it I think

02:55:38

primarily as you as you said and

02:55:39

secondly the people that you know maybe

02:55:42

they've got their 77 85 in oleds and

02:55:46

they actually want to have the best

02:55:47

possible

02:55:48

experience I think that's for them any

02:55:51

final thoughts on the PlayStation 5 Pro

02:55:53

reveal um yes I think um well I've

02:55:57

already laid out the criticisms I've got

02:55:59

a criticism about the hardware which is

02:56:01

that they literally said the CPU is the

02:56:04

same um and at the same time they're

02:56:07

talking about you know wanting to have

02:56:09

60 frames per second experiences all of

02:56:12

the enhancements in the Pro are geared

02:56:15

towards GPU so if your GPU if graphics

02:56:18

the limit then you know obviously the

02:56:21

pro is going to be a champion there

02:56:22

however you know recently I think the

02:56:23

last game we looked at I mentioned it

02:56:25

earlier Space Marine to um performance

02:56:28

mode on that on PlayStation 5 doesn't

02:56:30

get near 60 frames per second and it

02:56:32

won't with PlayStation 5 Pro the

02:56:35

graphics will look prettier but you

02:56:36

still won't be at 60 frames per second

02:56:38

because it's not just about what you're

02:56:40

rendering it's about what you're

02:56:42

simulating and you know all of the

02:56:44

hordes that are sort of in that game the

02:56:47

Swarms it's just too much for the for

02:56:49

the CPU seemingly now what they didn't

02:56:51

say is that there is uh an option for

02:56:53

developers to increase the clock speeds

02:56:55

by 10% um but 10% of something that's

02:56:59

low is is still low you 10% plus still

02:57:03

low so that's not going to help and uh

02:57:06

your colleague Alex said to me this

02:57:08

morning well you know what about GTA 6

02:57:10

is this going to run at 60 frames per

02:57:12

second that's a simulation heavy game

02:57:15

historically and I would say probably

02:57:18

not there which is probably going to

02:57:20

upset a lot of people but you know every

02:57:22

single GTA game has been 30 FPS

02:57:25

sometimes struggling to hit 30 FPS if

02:57:28

they're pushing simulation just as hard

02:57:30

in in GTA 6 I'm not seeing anything in

02:57:33

the PlayStation 5 Pro that's going to

02:57:35

get you to 60 FPS if the base machine

02:57:38

can't do it if it can

02:57:49

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oh hey

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SAR have you seen Yana something

03:06:23

happened she's in no state to be

03:06:25

wandering out in the Metro alone I need

03:06:28

to go after

03:06:29

her their bodies arranged in some sort

03:06:32

of ritual please just let Yana be all

03:06:35

right what was

03:06:39

that I keep hearing other voices on the

03:06:42

radio you said there were people there

03:06:47

did you not hear any of that Y is that

03:06:51

you the wor the wor I'm seeing things

03:06:55

hearing things I feel like I'm losing my

03:06:59

mind sometimes we need to become the

03:07:02

thing we

03:07:04

fear to prevent something worse

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[Music]

03:07:23

so how did it feel to learn the truth

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about the night sky

03:07:30

tragedy long ago you humans slaughtered

03:07:35

each other until the whole world lay in

03:07:41

Ruins and yet you have been granted

03:07:44

another chance in auroria

03:07:47

it must be the will of your beloved

03:07:50

mother

03:07:52

goddess

03:07:54

however I still have no trust in your

03:07:58

kind

03:08:31

prove

03:08:33

yourself if you survive this trial

03:08:49

perhaps you might become one of us

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[Music]

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he

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[Music]

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thanks to pocket pair for that new look

03:10:08

at pal World an incredible open world

03:10:10

survival game that's launching today on

03:10:12

the PlayStation 5 console we have a few

03:10:15

more games with breaking news today

03:10:17

starting with the return of two beloved

03:10:19

RPGs from the original

03:10:24

PlayStation magical thoughts all things

03:10:28

are real unless your dream they're not

03:10:32

in your

03:10:36

dreams Wings lunar remastered collection

03:10:40

brings together lunar the SilverStar

03:10:41

story complete and lunar 2 Eternal blue

03:10:44

complete with updated visuals

03:10:47

WID screen mode and

03:10:58

more lunar remastered Collection comes

03:11:01

to PS5 and PS4 in Spring

03:11:04

2025 two updates on Teenage Mutant Ninja

03:11:07

Turtles Shredder's

03:11:09

revenge first the radical reptiles DLC

03:11:12

which adds Mondo Gecko and Mona Lisa as

03:11:15

playable characters

03:11:17

and for no extra cost a remixed in-game

03:11:20

soundtrack featuring some amazing guest

03:11:22

composers both of these updates arrive

03:11:25

later [Music]

03:11:42

today

03:11:45

huh I've taken on another

03:11:49

form and yes you heard right Kiana

03:11:52

Reeves is joining Sonic X Shadow

03:11:54

generations as part of the upcoming

03:11:57

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 movie pack this

03:11:59

update is inspired by scenes from the

03:12:01

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 movie and arrives

03:12:04

December 12th the Sonic the Hedgehog 3

03:12:06

movie pack is included in the digital

03:12:08

deluxe edition which lets you play the

03:12:10

game 3 days ahead of its October 25th

03:12:13

release date

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[Music]

03:12:26

hello state of PR I saki producer of

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fantasian diens

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[Music]

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we're just over a month away from the

03:13:10

release of Dragon Age The Veil guard

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let's check in with BioWare and

03:13:14

Electronic Arts for an extended look at

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a climactic

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[Music]

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battle we've gotten word from the

03:13:28

wardens have they found Gillan not yet

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but they found something else worth

03:13:33

killing one of her blighted

03:13:38

dragons Rook you made it good wouldn't

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miss it we have unfinished business with

03:13:45

that Dragon we've tracked to a ruined

03:13:47

Tower nearby that Lair is a death

03:13:51

trap we need to lure her out to have any

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[Music]

03:13:57

chance so we challenge her draw the

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dragon out into the open then

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[Music]

03:14:07

attack just you and me

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[Music]

03:14:13

now

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everyone get ready

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wers ready

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ballis wait for

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it come on come on

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fire hit the wings forcer the land

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second Detachment flank on the

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walls let go

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this

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a

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second

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dragon PR the back bring that first one

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down

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V Gillan

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[Applause]

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name consume their flashh shut off our

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bones

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your battle is already

03:17:38

lost this isn't the bureau's first time

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in bright

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[Music]

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Falls the fbc's research Department set

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up a

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facility the lake

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house if I had any clue what was waiting

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for us in

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there I would have just kept on driving

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head

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[Music]

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give up the firearm

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[Music]

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[Music]

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now

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[Music]

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few know the

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truth I stood with Cain and my brethren

03:20:09

until I had the honor of surpassing my

03:20:12

lord for my transgression I earned a new

03:20:16

kind of

03:20:21

reward

03:20:26

agon the fate of this world was

03:20:28

pre-ordained in an

03:20:33

instant what Madness is

03:20:38

this am I so

03:20:42

changed I was not prepared for what lay

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Beyond this threshold

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the future has always been

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[Music]

03:21:06

written don't fight it Rasel

03:21:20

Legacy of Kane's Soul Reaver 1 in2

03:21:22

remastered arrives December 10th

03:21:24

celebrating the 25th anniversary of the

03:21:26

first game's

03:21:29

release you sure we can't just do the s

03:21:31

games from the original PlayStation era

03:21:33

also inspired fear the spotlight from

03:21:35

blumhouse games it brings atmospheric

03:21:38

polygonal scares to PS5 and PS4 on

03:21:41

October

03:21:45

22nd let go home

03:21:48

Viv I'm happy

03:21:54

here so

03:21:56

happy at last we've returned to our

03:21:59

ancestral land a

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gasb build Villages and nurture vast

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ecosystems in towers of

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[Music]

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aasa this Colorful World includes unique

03:22:14

creatures A peculiar your cast of

03:22:18

characters and also allows you to invite

03:22:20

other players to visit your

03:22:26

Island towers of a gasba launches into

03:22:29

Early Access this

03:22:32

November up next epic games brings a

03:22:35

split screen mode to Lego fortnite this

03:22:38

October this feature enables friends and

03:22:41

family to explore the world and build

03:22:43

Villages together while playing on the

03:22:44

same PS5 or PS4

03:22:48

and in other fortnite news the new

03:22:50

fortnite limited edition dual sense

03:22:52

wireless controller arrives later this

03:22:54

year with pre-orders starting October

03:22:58

3rd visit Playstation blog for more

03:23:02

details next it's 1 versus 1,000 in

03:23:06

Dynasty Warriors Origins and koi techmo

03:23:09

games is ready to share the release date

03:23:11

let's take a look

03:23:16

guardian of Peace you have crossed paths

03:23:20

with men who may one day bring about

03:23:24

order until then you must adapt to the

03:23:28

chaos and find a way to survive so

03:23:31

choose your path wisely go forth and

03:23:35

learn what it means to be a

03:23:43

hero you claim to strive for justice but

03:23:46

have no way to achieve it tearing down

03:23:49

the system without providing an

03:23:50

alternative is mere want in

03:23:58

[Music]

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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destruction the die has been cast

03:24:16

All That Remains is to see this through

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[Music]

03:24:54

I was still hoping that I imagined the

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whole

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thing it's burned into my

03:25:05

mind so Captain what's your team been

03:25:08

getting up to the Gil gave special

03:25:11

assignments to some of the other units

03:25:12

from the Expedition mine included

03:25:17

this Forest is

03:25:21

amazing my fur isn't built for this kind

03:25:24

of weather it's causing the water

03:25:26

currents to Surge

03:25:35

too this is its territory and we're

03:25:38

Intruders

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haa

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[Music]

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for hours you

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respect why don't they just put the meat

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down leave this to me heals and bound

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[Music]

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that's it the white

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wraith it's

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real is that what we're

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after the white

03:27:08

wraith I'm there someone's in trouble it

03:27:11

seems we must do a more thorough

03:27:13

investigation what is that thing an

03:27:16

extinct

03:27:19

species you're a

03:27:21

hunter you've got a weapon and you do

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nothing give it to me and

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[Music]

03:28:09

where

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plays

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[Music]

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[Music]

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look at those Chompers okay Trail spots

03:29:08

aren't cheap so let's get started a

03:29:10

hunter with a mysterious p and her uh

03:29:14

very heroic friend

03:29:17

are all that stands in the way of an

03:29:19

unspeakable

03:29:21

evil join them as they explore hunt like

03:29:24

wacky outfits and decorate their Village

03:29:26

nailed it this is awesome but wait

03:29:28

there's more with the digital deluxe

03:29:30

edition you get this exciting blue

03:29:32

roller thing that's snazzy costumes like

03:29:35

the shadow stowboard outfit and this uh

03:29:39

I don't know what that is that or that

03:29:42

or why they're climbing in that Cannon

03:29:45

but look how how much fun they're having

03:29:48

come and join the party at mother's

03:29:50

[Music]

03:29:51

heart pH got it all in no you didn't oh

03:29:55

I forgot to mention the

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pre-order hi everyone I'm Kristen zani

03:30:00

we are so excited for everyone to get

03:30:02

their hands on Lego Horizon Adventures

03:30:04

when it launches on November 14th and

03:30:06

aloy has more good news on the horizon

03:30:17

aloy's Original Adventure Horizon zero

03:30:19

Dawn is being remastered for PS5 and PC

03:30:22

by Gorilla and nix's Horizon zero Dawn

03:30:24

remastered includes more than 10 hours

03:30:27

of re-recorded conversation map and

03:30:29

countless graphical improvements that

03:30:31

bring the game to the same visual

03:30:32

Fidelity as Horizon forbidden West

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[Music]

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this new version of horizon zero Dawn

03:30:50

will arrive October 31st and anyone who

03:30:53

owns the original ps4 version of the

03:30:55

game will be able to upgrade to the new

03:30:56

PS5 version for

03:30:59

$9.99 visit Playstation blog for more

03:31:02

details and watch the full trailer to

03:31:03

see all the enhancements to aloy's Epic

03:31:06

[Music]

03:31:09

Quest new content is on the way to the

03:31:11

action-packed world of Stellar blade a

03:31:14

new photo mode lets players set up the

03:31:15

perfect perfect picture with your choice

03:31:17

of poses expressions and

03:31:19

[Music]

03:31:24

filters and sell blad's original

03:31:26

soundtrack featuring over 180 songs from

03:31:29

the game is available on select

03:31:31

streaming services starting

03:31:32

[Music]

03:31:39

today but that's not all

03:31:45

[Music]

03:31:49

sci-fi Worlds Collide in the Stellar

03:31:51

blade and near automata collaboration

03:31:53

coming to Stellar blade later this

03:31:55

[Music]

03:32:02

year now let's talk about what's ahead

03:32:04

for PlayStation

03:32:06

Plus first your monthly games for

03:32:08

October are WWE 2K4 dead space and

03:32:11

dokidoki literature club plus these will

03:32:14

be available to all PlayStation Plus

03:32:15

members starting October

03:32:17

[Music]

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1st meanwhile our library of PlayStation

03:32:21

Classics continues to grow with two more

03:32:23

fan favorites from the original

03:32:24

PlayStation arriving later this year

03:32:26

blood Omen Legacy of cane and capcom's

03:32:28

dyo

03:32:31

crisis Naughty Dog fans know September

03:32:33

26th is The Last of Us day and we're

03:32:36

celebrating by adding the critically

03:32:37

acclaimed PS5 Hit The Last of Us Part

03:32:40

One to the Playstation Plus game catalog

03:32:42

this Thursday

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a

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hi everyone I'm Mark cery we recently

03:33:50

revealed the newest addition to the

03:33:51

PlayStation 5 family PS5 Pro alongside

03:33:55

several games showcasing the superior

03:33:57

frame rates and improved Graphics that

03:33:59

the new console makes possible with PS5

03:34:02

Pro developers have access to three key

03:34:05

improvements an upgraded GPU Advanced

03:34:08

rate tracing and Aid driven upscaling

03:34:11

that combined to bring developers closer

03:34:13

to realizing their unique vision we're

03:34:16

excited for players to get their hands

03:34:18

on PlayStation 5 Pro when it launches

03:34:20

this November but in the meantime here's

03:34:22

a look at some of the games that are

03:34:24

being enhanced for the new console

03:34:26

including a few titles that we're

03:34:28

revealing for the very first time

03:34:33

today this is a time of relx

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[Music]

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this is a time of our

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[Music]

03:34:58

Liv this is a time

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of this is the time of

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this is a time of our Liv

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[Music]

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[Music]

03:36:07

we are Beyond the Edge of Japan

03:36:17

people come north to

03:36:20

[Music]

03:36:27

disappear but

03:36:30

you you are

03:36:34

[Music]

03:36:39

hunting and

03:36:41

now every rone in here is have to

03:36:51

you still think you're the Hunter

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[Music]

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[Laughter]

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n

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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[Music]

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[Music]

03:39:28

hello everybody and welcome to Beyond uh

03:39:32

we just got uh the PlayStation state of

03:39:34

play and uh we're going to break it all

03:39:36

down here on Beyond uh 's Playstation

03:39:39

podcast I'm your host AE joining me to

03:39:40

break it all down we got Brian utano

03:39:42

Jada Griffin and Nick leemon welcome

03:39:46

welcome beyond what is going on beyond

03:39:49

beyond what a show what a show indeed

03:39:52

and we're we're gonna break down every

03:39:54

single bit and piece of it but I think

03:39:55

the the main thing the first thing we

03:39:56

should talk about is definitely the

03:39:58

sequel to Ghost of tsushima of course

03:40:01

that game was a Smash Hit when it came

03:40:02

out like at the height of the pandemic

03:40:04

back in 2020 in July and uh it's not

03:40:07

called ghost of shusa Nick it's you you

03:40:11

you you know how to pronounce these

03:40:12

words properly ghost it's ghost ghost of

03:40:15

Y

03:40:18

Ys Y is Northern Japan so like Hokkaido

03:40:22

area and since we are Beyond sushima now

03:40:25

it makes me think like how much of Japan

03:40:27

are we actually going to get to explore

03:40:29

like the northern Japan's very snowy

03:40:31

very yeah mountainous and things like

03:40:34

that so yeah really exciting setting and

03:40:36

it looks like our main character is a

03:40:38

ronin perhaps who can dual wield maybe a

03:40:40

wolf companion it looks amazing out 2025

03:40:44

I you know I was hoping we would get to

03:40:47

see this game sooner than later uh GH of

03:40:49

sushima aim you mentioned it like that

03:40:52

was one of my like you know Sav my brain

03:40:55

from falling apart during the pandemic

03:40:56

games like being we were like stuck

03:40:58

inside and being able to just like

03:41:00

travel around these open world fields

03:41:02

and sunsets and snows and it was just

03:41:05

like just so gorgeous so much fun so

03:41:09

awesome and then the PS5 came out it got

03:41:12

uh the uh sort of Monkey Island DLC uh

03:41:15

and then it got some patches and stuff

03:41:17

like that but mostly that game's kind of

03:41:19

been it's it's been done and dusted and

03:41:22

kind of been you know off to the side

03:41:23

it's a classic it's awesome but I kept

03:41:26

waiting to be like what is next from

03:41:28

Sucker Punch I can't wait to see what

03:41:29

they do next on dedicated PS5 hardware

03:41:32

and now PS5 Pro Hardware this is the

03:41:35

kind of thing that made me immediately

03:41:36

go okay yeah now I'm now you're twisting

03:41:39

my arm on getting a PS5 Pro like the

03:41:42

shots in this trailer especially oh man

03:41:44

that one shot shot of the mountain was

03:41:46

just like so cool illustrates the scale

03:41:48

yeah it was beautiful dude yeah it just

03:41:49

immediately gave me goosebumps like I

03:41:51

cannot wait for this game this is

03:41:52

exactly why I play video games games

03:41:54

like this like this is what it's all

03:41:56

about looked incredible it's also it's

03:41:58

also like perfect timing it's perfect

03:42:01

timing with with this game because so

03:42:03

what I did a quick uh search ghost of

03:42:05

tsushima takes place in 13th century

03:42:08

Japan whereas this looks like it's

03:42:10

taking place in 17th century so nearly

03:42:12

400 years later and one of the big shows

03:42:15

that came out this year with Shogun

03:42:16

which takes place very near the end of

03:42:18

the soku era of Japan so we are seeing a

03:42:21

Japan that is slowly inching towards

03:42:24

modernization so I'm I think we're going

03:42:26

to see some like gunfire weapon like

03:42:28

some like um like black powder gun

03:42:30

gunpowder and stuff like that so uh if

03:42:33

you watch Shogun and you want more of

03:42:35

that this looks like it's going to be in

03:42:37

that same vein which is very exciting I

03:42:39

really liked how they did the interior

03:42:41

sections there too like that that that

03:42:43

that bar like restaurant situation there

03:42:45

looked great what were you saying Jada

03:42:47

oh I was just saying I don't even know

03:42:48

what to say you guys have like covered

03:42:49

all the great points about this game it

03:42:51

looks fantastic it totally makes sense

03:42:53

now with Nick's point about it being you

03:42:54

know basically 400 years later while

03:42:57

we're getting a new character I know a

03:42:58

lot of people were very attached to

03:43:00

jinai and especially you know us that

03:43:02

you know love to go to the take a little

03:43:04

soak in the you know the little baths

03:43:06

and just take a little bath out there

03:43:08

and reflect on things uh it'll be

03:43:11

interesting to see how they handle that

03:43:13

but yeah Like the Wolf the wolf looks

03:43:15

fantastic I can't wait to see how that

03:43:18

works into gamep play I think there was

03:43:20

so many elements where in sushima there

03:43:22

was dual guards you were trying to take

03:43:24

out and they you know jyn had the

03:43:26

ability to kind of take out multiple

03:43:27

people quickly but this kind of looks

03:43:30

like they're going to give you almost

03:43:31

the like what we got with Nicks out of

03:43:34

Star Wars Outlaws where you can kind of

03:43:35

split the attention and kind of do that

03:43:37

so like I'm all about having those

03:43:39

little friendly familiars little little

03:43:42

little buddies Little Wolf bud that's

03:43:43

just going to be

03:43:45

the crap out of people great you get an

03:43:48

attack wolf and it will probably have

03:43:49

its own skill tree and everything you

03:43:51

can train it to do cool tricks and mul

03:43:54

people I'm so in on that like I didn't

03:43:56

even need that element but sure that's

03:43:58

just that's icing on the cake on top of

03:44:00

everything else like God the the

03:44:02

original I I played uh I played like

03:44:06

half of the original game in the kurosa

03:44:08

mode and so the second we saw this black

03:44:09

and white footage I was like it's back

03:44:11

ghost is back where this is it this is

03:44:13

all over again like they they nailed

03:44:15

that film grade that black and white

03:44:16

like the high contrast and everything

03:44:18

and then they cut to these full coloror

03:44:19

shots with the blood and the snow and

03:44:20

the wolf comes out and I'm like wait a

03:44:22

minute what is this like this this was

03:44:25

one of my favorite surprises of the Year

03:44:27

by far this was I I wanted I wanted the

03:44:30

big one more thing to be bloodborne it

03:44:32

wasn't we'll keep that Circle going

03:44:35

especially when Mark cery was kind of

03:44:37

like all right here's all the stuff

03:44:38

coming to PS5 Pro but uh most of this

03:44:40

presentation today like didn't really

03:44:42

mention the pro until the last few

03:44:45

seconds the last few minutes really and

03:44:47

then seeing this I was like yeah this is

03:44:49

going to be one of those games you're

03:44:50

going to want you're going to want the

03:44:51

benefit of better hardware for and it's

03:44:54

expensive it's pricey doesn't come with

03:44:56

a disc drive I'm still annoyed about a

03:44:58

couple of things there

03:44:59

but man they're going to start to give

03:45:01

me a couple of reasons to get that thing

03:45:03

aren't they yep I mean that shot of

03:45:04

running through the fields on with all

03:45:06

the horses and everything like that just

03:45:08

looks so gorgeous just in you know we're

03:45:10

watching it fed back like non-natively

03:45:13

where how it's going to look on our

03:45:14

console like it's going to look even

03:45:16

better when we're playing it like I

03:45:18

cannot wait like and it's super

03:45:21

evocative like that hor shot I wouldn't

03:45:23

be surprised if that was the kind of

03:45:25

opening of the game because if you

03:45:27

remember at the original ghost of

03:45:28

tsushima the kind of late title card is

03:45:31

jyn riding through the um like the

03:45:33

meadow running his hands through the

03:45:35

crops and whatnot and it's evoking a

03:45:37

very similar Vibe and it just it looks

03:45:40

stunning and as Brian said it looks like

03:45:43

a reason to own a P S5 Pro um I'm

03:45:46

assuming better resolution and better

03:45:48

frame rate overall so sign me up cuz I'm

03:45:50

a unfortunately I am a I am a graphic

03:45:53

snob through and through so so then I I

03:45:57

guess you know Brian I know we talked

03:45:58

about this I I believe it was was it

03:46:00

just last week um we we talked about or

03:46:02

was it two weeks ago uh we talked about

03:46:04

the PS5 Pro and and I know you were you

03:46:06

were on the F well you said no you

03:46:08

weren't going to do it you weren't going

03:46:09

to get it but now with this game and of

03:46:12

course coupled with the fact that

03:46:13

they're producing a fair amount of I

03:46:16

guess grayscale 30th Anniversary PS5

03:46:19

Pros are you are you g to get it now

03:46:21

like what's your you can do it you can

03:46:23

call me out like I I I was was I was on

03:46:26

the fence on the pro and then the then

03:46:28

the wave of nostalgia came over with the

03:46:30

with the 30th Anniversary PS PS1 colors

03:46:32

and I was like man now I gotta I'm

03:46:35

setting a timer on my alarm on my phone

03:46:37

to try and try and get that if it

03:46:39

doesn't happen whatever if it sells out

03:46:42

because they're they're they're only making like 12,000 of them or something

03:46:44

stupid that like it's honestly dumb that

03:46:46

they're not making more of those um I'll

03:46:49

just I'm gonna continue to call them out

03:46:50

while also Shing my credit card at them

03:46:54

and I got to say while while this was an

03:46:56

impressive uh one more thing I was

03:46:58

hoping that they were actually going to

03:46:59

reveal the pricing for uh that 30th

03:47:02

Anniversary um as like the one more

03:47:03

thing like just drop it real quick it's

03:47:05

1,200 and then just in the

03:47:08

show they'll get

03:47:10

you you're logged in PlayStation direct

03:47:13

at 6: a.m. or whatever you got your

03:47:14

credit card information already in there

03:47:16

and then you just go godamn it you push

03:47:19

it's it's going to be one of those like

03:47:21

reveal price at checkout and just put it

03:47:23

in the cart and then when you get there

03:47:25

like oh well I'm already 80% of the way

03:47:28

there guess I'll just drop this $1,200 a

03:47:31

little a little mark C is gonna pop up

03:47:33

and be like ah ah ah you didn't say the

03:47:35

magic word like it's going to be one of

03:47:36

those it'll be it'll be torture but

03:47:39

either way this is this this is like you

03:47:41

need you need software to sell systems

03:47:43

right you need you need not only stuff

03:47:45

that people can play this November but

03:47:47

stuff that's going to uh entice them to

03:47:49

want to buy something that is going to

03:47:51

be future proof then obviously we know

03:47:53

that stuff is coming but I'll be honest

03:47:55

with you like a lot of this generation

03:47:58

as a PlayStation fan has felt sort of

03:48:02

repetitive you know like there's been a

03:48:04

couple of like bangers and many of them

03:48:07

have been ported to PC or uh you know

03:48:10

and like their their one of their

03:48:12

biggest games this fall is a horizon

03:48:13

game that's coming to switch right like

03:48:16

and then we see we see see stuff like uh

03:48:18

you know Horizon zero Dawn remastered

03:48:21

and like remastered there was this rumor

03:48:22

of like a days gone remastered and I was

03:48:24

like I need to know what Sucker Punch is

03:48:26

working on I need the next thing I don't

03:48:28

want to play The Last of Us Part Two

03:48:29

again I don't really need to play days

03:48:31

gon or Horizon again I'm good on those

03:48:32

things bloodborne different story

03:48:35

obviously because come on that n nine

03:48:37

years it's nine years old and it's like

03:48:39

sub30 FPS bring that bring that boy back

03:48:42

but seeing the sequel the ghost of sushi

03:48:44

one of the greatest games of the last

03:48:46

decade makes me so happy and it makes me

03:48:49

go okay finally finally a new game yeah

03:48:53

yeah I'm I'm glad they they showcased

03:48:56

this uh but you you mentioned uh we are

03:48:58

getting a few remasters they definitely

03:48:59

they showed off a handful of remasters

03:49:01

we're getting um of course uh The

03:49:03

Horizon uh remaster we're getting lunar

03:49:07

remaster that collection I know Nick you

03:49:09

were super excited for that one um and

03:49:12

of course we're getting the piece to

03:49:13

resistance the leg which was already

03:49:16

revealed in leaks the legacy of Kane one

03:49:20

and two remastered which uh I I believe

03:49:23

that's that's a bit of a blind spot for

03:49:25

some of us here I don't know uh jar have

03:49:27

you had the privilege of man playy of

03:49:31

it's my the the legacy of cane games are

03:49:34

one of my are are my part one of the

03:49:36

favorite franchises for my partner so I

03:49:39

know he's excited about it and so I'll

03:49:41

get to experience that Joy through him

03:49:42

watching him play it I played a little

03:49:45

bit of them back in the day but I it was

03:49:47

so long ago I don't even remember if I

03:49:49

finished them because of how old those

03:49:51

games are so I'm really excited for a

03:49:53

chance to actually go through and update

03:49:56

my knowledge base on these games it's

03:49:58

sad that we're not going to get the that

03:50:00

the other ones are just coming to the uh

03:50:03

Classics Collection the Classics

03:50:05

Collection so we're not getting all of

03:50:07

them but who knows maybe this I I would

03:50:10

assume this is a test to where if this

03:50:12

one does well then the other ones will

03:50:15

start to get remastered or remade as

03:50:17

well or we'll get full-on remakes for

03:50:19

these instead of just the remaster ports

03:50:22

of these older ones so yeah yeah and I I

03:50:26

think those Legacy of cane uh remasters

03:50:28

are very like evocative of a different

03:50:31

era of Sony that we haven't really seen

03:50:33

in a long time they came out in the era

03:50:36

of something like medieval right which

03:50:38

was like this these games are third

03:50:40

person action Platformers that you don't

03:50:42

really see anymore I think the last time

03:50:44

we saw something like this was like

03:50:45

Psychonauts 2 so it really feels like we

03:50:48

are tapping back into an early era of

03:50:51

gaming and hopefully it's it's here to

03:50:53

stay because I do think that Sony's

03:50:55

gotten a little bit stale in regards to

03:50:57

their first party titles being you know

03:51:00

your cinematic third person over the

03:51:02

shoulder story about uh two people um

03:51:05

obviously ghost of uh y looks to kind of

03:51:08

be in that same vein but I'll give it a

03:51:11

pass because that game looks really

03:51:12

impressive from what we've seen so far

03:51:14

but to kind of bring the conversation

03:51:15

back to the Horizon zero Dawn

03:51:18

remaster yeah I'm not a huge Horizon fan

03:51:21

but that said I do think it makes sense

03:51:24

for them to remaster it despite it being

03:51:26

really early they have the tech for

03:51:28

forbidden West which whether you like

03:51:30

those games or not you got to admit it's

03:51:31

very impressive and the thing that

03:51:34

Horizon zero Dawn does not do that

03:51:36

forbidden West does is those uh dialogue

03:51:40

cutcenes that are kind of stilted and

03:51:42

clunky in the original game very shot

03:51:45

reverse shot whereas forbidden West uh

03:51:47

kind of added a lot more cinematography

03:51:50

and a lot of camera movement it felt

03:51:52

more like you were watching a movie in

03:51:53

Forbidden West so for them to kind of

03:51:55

retroactively put that in zero Dawn

03:51:58

makes so much sense and Hey look it's

03:52:01

another thing to show off how pretty

03:52:03

your PlayStation 5 Pro looks so uh I

03:52:05

think it's an easy win for Sony I I

03:52:08

think

03:52:09

it's no go for itead no go go go Brian I

03:52:12

was gonna say very quickly that this one

03:52:14

uh I think depicts the power of what

03:52:18

what they're doing with the remaster

03:52:19

more than um some of the other recent

03:52:22

remasters have from PlayStation

03:52:23

specifically like seeing this I was like

03:52:26

okay I'm not interested in playing this

03:52:28

game again maybe but uh and I did love

03:52:30

it but damn it looks good like very very

03:52:34

clearly like there were some shots in

03:52:35

this where I'm like okay they they have

03:52:37

definitely put a ton of power into this

03:52:40

thing and it's it's looking way better

03:52:42

do I need to play it again probably not

03:52:43

but if you have played it yet like yes

03:52:46

this this is the way to do it yeah this

03:52:48

what I'll say about Horizon is it's one

03:52:50

of Sony's best selling franchises since

03:52:53

the PS4 generation like this game moves

03:52:56

numbers regardless of what people on the

03:52:59

internet be like this game is bad I

03:53:01

don't like this game whatever this game

03:53:03

sells a lot it is it is one of their

03:53:05

more profitable I believe franchises

03:53:08

Sony has been putting out and the fact

03:53:10

that they're going in and I think they

03:53:11

said what 10 hours worth of new moap

03:53:14

scenes and dialogue re-recorded that's

03:53:17

just going to really help sell just how

03:53:20

great this game was when it first

03:53:21

launched on PS4 it's G and even better

03:53:23

than it it's going to be even better now

03:53:25

there is just so much in this game and I

03:53:28

can't wait to see what it looks like I

03:53:30

don't think it's going to be a pick up

03:53:33

and play right away for me especially

03:53:34

with it dropping on Halloween the same

03:53:36

day as Dragon Age Veil guard but it's

03:53:39

definitely something that I will be

03:53:40

looking to do the the $10 upgrade

03:53:43

probably next year during a down spell

03:53:45

When there's less stuff to play I'll be

03:53:47

like okay cool let me re-experience this

03:53:50

game because I haven't played it since

03:53:52

it launched on the PS4 so it's been a

03:53:54

minute for me that's what seven years

03:53:56

now I want to say something like that so

03:54:00

it's I suspect that $999 is going to be

03:54:03

much easier to spend when your fancy new

03:54:05

PS5 Pro is sitting there looking for

03:54:08

something to play on it and that's going

03:54:09

to be like an easy well I already have

03:54:12

the original game so I might as well

03:54:14

what it looks like on the PS5 Pro so I

03:54:17

can see that kind of um that kind of a

03:54:20

like straight to Consumer style yeah one

03:54:23

more thing here's a little cheap add-on

03:54:24

for you Ju Just Just so you know nick uh

03:54:28

usually you're looking to play something

03:54:30

on the PS5 or or consoles not it looking

03:54:33

for you for it to play be played on that

03:54:36

you know you you kind of hey man if you

03:54:39

get if you're one of the lucky people

03:54:40

who gets one of those 12,000 PS5 retro

03:54:43

consoles you're going to be looking for

03:54:44

anything to play on it I assure you now

03:54:48

I want to talk I want to talk about this

03:54:49

this remaster uh a little bit more uh

03:54:51

just because I feel like well not even

03:54:53

just the remaster but just with uh The

03:54:55

Horizon series I feel like we're it's

03:54:58

kind of just being like we're just being

03:55:00

thrown a lot of horizon content like

03:55:03

we're get we're also getting a Lego

03:55:04

Horizon game uh J you mention there was

03:55:07

a horizon level in astrobot which yeah

03:55:10

yeah but but J Jay mentioned how

03:55:12

profitable franchise is uh for uh for

03:55:16

PlayStation but I I mean like I don't

03:55:19

think do do you really think we needed

03:55:21

this remaster so soon I mean there's

03:55:23

other games that could have gotten the

03:55:25

remaster treatment you know that are in

03:55:28

dire need um name one what one yeah

03:55:30

one's coming to mind

03:55:32

um I'm not sure what what's the name

03:55:35

what's the name of that game Brian AP

03:55:37

Escape Legacy of no um Vib

03:55:41

ribbon well we have to hope that this

03:55:43

that bloodborne's on the on the you know

03:55:46

it's on the assembly line on the long

03:55:48

list or what the short list I don't know

03:55:49

if there's a short list yeah the short

03:55:51

list I just get a couple more of these

03:55:52

through uh and then there'll be some

03:55:54

clear runway for the bloodborne 60fps 4K

03:55:58

remaster but we can hope and dream and

03:56:01

set up our summoning circles every time

03:56:03

for bloodborne I I hope we get it

03:56:05

eventually but man it is looking less

03:56:08

and less likely as time goes by but yes

03:56:10

to your point AE I do think as great as

03:56:13

these advanced ments are for Horizon and

03:56:15

I love seeing Horizon getting the love

03:56:17

because I love that franchise it it does

03:56:19

feel a little bit too soon a little bit

03:56:22

just a little bit too soon for me uh

03:56:24

which you know but to be fair I I don't

03:56:27

remember if the Horizon franchise is

03:56:29

still on for like their TV shows I think

03:56:32

they have like an animated show with

03:56:33

Netflix if I remember correctly I can't

03:56:35

remember if that one I believe that's

03:56:36

still going on I don't know if it's

03:56:37

animated or or live action I think it

03:56:39

might be it's they're working on a

03:56:41

series though supp pre Series right

03:56:44

believe so so I know some of those I

03:56:46

know some of the Sony things got canell

03:56:48

or got pushed into development hell or

03:56:50

whatever when it comes to you know

03:56:52

making TV shows movies whatever so I

03:56:55

don't remember if that one is but if

03:56:57

that is coming around could also make a

03:56:59

really good case for them redoing this

03:57:02

one and putting it out for the current

03:57:03

audience the current generation audience

03:57:06

just like they did with Last of Us and

03:57:07

The Last of Us HBO show so it does it

03:57:10

does kind of line up and make a lot of

03:57:12

sense oh and it turns out this just in

03:57:16

the uh Horizon zero Dawn show is dead

03:57:19

for now yeah okay so that one was that

03:57:21

one was I couldn't remember if it was

03:57:23

that one or another one so who knows but

03:57:26

uh yeah I think I think a lot of fans

03:57:29

will or a lot of newcomers to PS5 will

03:57:31

enjoy this one and get a chance to play

03:57:33

it in the best way possible yeah I I

03:57:36

think it's it's sort of a square peg

03:57:38

Grand hole with the the Lego situation

03:57:40

I've talked about this before like that

03:57:42

aloy is not like a fun character in fact

03:57:46

none of the characters in this world

03:57:48

really are n get out of here she's so

03:57:50

much fun she tells you all those things

03:57:52

she puts in her bag and she's got to she

03:57:53

got put things in her

03:57:55

stash great it's it's okay like it's

03:57:58

it's interesting to take this world and

03:58:00

just make it into a Lego game like I I

03:58:02

get the the I get the the 4K remasters

03:58:05

or sequels or spin-offs or whatever like

03:58:07

there was a leaked uh multiplayer uh

03:58:09

Horizon game at some point in the last

03:58:11

few years like they're they're very

03:58:13

clearly like like hey this is our big

03:58:15

new franchise we're going hard with it

03:58:17

we're going to do everything with it and

03:58:18

it you know like you said it sells well

03:58:19

enough that it's like it justifies all

03:58:21

of that but um I don't know I don't know

03:58:24

if it it all necessarily works for me I

03:58:27

bounced off the second game pretty early

03:58:29

because it just didn't didn't click the

03:58:32

same way and this this Lego version like

03:58:35

I guess sure like it doesn't it doesn't

03:58:37

fit for me if if they can find a way to

03:58:39

get kids into this franchise or kids

03:58:43

into PlayStation I've said that for

03:58:44

years like as as a dad now like that's

03:58:47

important and that and and astrobot are

03:58:49

really good entry points but I'm I'm

03:58:51

like I'm not saying like it's Horizon

03:58:53

fatigue but I'm I'm I'm also kind of

03:58:55

like okay enough with this for a little

03:58:58

while like just it's it's funny and I

03:59:00

kind of I kind of see what you what you

03:59:02

mean Brian like I feel like I don't know

03:59:05

if the Lego treatment really fits like

03:59:08

Horizon like it would have been great if

03:59:10

they did this maybe to like God of War

03:59:12

because that you know that J position

03:59:13

like of this like this very like serious

03:59:16

you know I don't know I mean if I was an

03:59:20

adult I'd be like God of Warf for Lego

03:59:22

God of War I don't know if I want my kid

03:59:24

to play that but it probably have that

03:59:26

quirky it'll probably have the quirky

03:59:28

tone that we we the light hearted quirky

03:59:30

tone that we're seeing right now with uh

03:59:32

with that's what I'm assuming because

03:59:33

like you know it's it's Lego like they

03:59:35

they have an IP to Pro to to protect

03:59:38

themselves as well or or a brand I

03:59:39

should say Lego

03:59:41

so Horizon has never felt particularly

03:59:44

dark or mature in any way shape or form

03:59:47

yeah there's death that happens but like

03:59:50

if I had a kid and they happen to play

03:59:52

Horizon I think I wouldn't really bad an

03:59:54

eye it's not like God of War where

03:59:55

there's this hyper realistic violence

03:59:58

but uh to kind of echo what Brian saying

04:00:00

I I kind of agree it feels like Sony is

04:00:03

forcing Horizon down everyone's throat

04:00:06

and say hey this is going to be the new

04:00:08

popular kid stop trying to make fetch

04:00:10

happen it feels very in that in that

04:00:13

same vein but to play Devil's Advocate I

04:00:16

will say that the burning Shores DLC for

04:00:19

Horizon forbidden West the sequel was a

04:00:22

PS5 only expansion for the game and I

04:00:25

think the tech behind that expansion

04:00:27

really showcases what the PS5 is capable

04:00:30

of so if they kind of uh kind of

04:00:32

transplant that technology the

04:00:34

volumetric cloud work and all that jazz

04:00:37

into the original game I could see that

04:00:39

being as a a justification for why this

04:00:42

remaster should exist cuz if nothing

04:00:44

else forbidden West felt slightly

04:00:47

compromised by the fact that it was

04:00:48

released on both the PlayStation 4 and

04:00:51

PS5 so the fact that we are finally

04:00:53

getting a PS5 only version of a game

04:00:56

that is a known quantity feels like

04:00:59

it'll look nice if you like Horizon but

04:01:01

if you don't well too bad you're getting

04:01:03

one anyway I mean so I will I will agree

04:01:06

on the point of Sony trying to like

04:01:08

really make fetch happen and put Horizon

04:01:10

in everybody's hands that's definitely

04:01:11

what they've done it you know they

04:01:13

bundled it with conso for a while with

04:01:14

the PS4 what I will say for the Lego

04:01:18

portion I think Horizon is besides

04:01:21

Ratchet and Clank I think Horizon is the

04:01:23

best franchise for them to do a Lego

04:01:25

experience for there's so many great

04:01:28

creatures that they can build out of

04:01:30

giant machine the giant machines that

04:01:33

are just great look great as Legos and

04:01:35

are great for destroying and they come

04:01:37

apart just like they do in the game

04:01:39

you're literally knocking off Parts off

04:01:41

of the different machines to craft and

04:01:43

upgrade and do different things so

04:01:45

Horizon for me makes perfect sense with

04:01:47

going the Lego route just because of how

04:01:50

their monster and their enemy uh designs

04:01:53

have been done since day one so I think

04:01:55

it definitely makes sense I just think

04:01:58

it's I think in a vacuum if it was just

04:02:02

on its own and it wasn't so close to

04:02:04

these remasters I think everybody would

04:02:06

be a little bit nicer about it but I do

04:02:08

think it's all of it so soon all

04:02:11

together is kind of hampering the

04:02:14

in the

04:02:16

like just enjoying it by just out you

04:02:19

know out yeah I I don't know I'm moreing

04:02:21

up to aim's idea of Lego got of war the

04:02:24

the game my

04:02:26

goodness dies let's just go let's just

04:02:29

go Lego BL bloodborne let's just get a

04:02:31

Lego bloodborn is in fortnite so stop

04:02:33

trying to poo poo this idea of of there

04:02:35

being a Lego god of war

04:02:39

okay mamir works perfectly as a Lego

04:02:42

head so I I get you he yes thank you he

04:02:45

does all right well um there there were

04:02:47

a lot of other games revealed Let's uh

04:02:49

let's move on we're also going to check

04:02:50

in with our audience um as well I

04:02:52

believe you know uh Jay you know we we

04:02:54

asked the qu we pulled the uh the

04:02:55

audience on our Facebook group so we're

04:02:57

gonna we're going to do that but I want

04:02:58

to talk about one game before we do that

04:03:00

uh and that is hell is us that's right

04:03:04

it's right there on your screen

04:03:05

facebook.com

04:03:07

groups podcast beyond but hell is us now

04:03:10

before we we saw the re the one last

04:03:12

thing which was uh ghost y Nick you were

04:03:15

saying that hell is us is was your your

04:03:17

game of of the show and just to kind of

04:03:20

give people a refresher uh this is a

04:03:22

third person action adventure game

04:03:24

combining like intense melee combat uh

04:03:27

with the thrill of exploration and a

04:03:29

bunch of horrible garbage and evil evil

04:03:33

cre I love yeah I love it I I think

04:03:36

despite ghost of yote being very

04:03:38

exciting I still think that this is my

04:03:40

game of the show this goes back to and

04:03:42

again I keep harping on evoking old Sony

04:03:46

because I do think that's what made

04:03:48

Playstation as a brand like so special

04:03:51

was it was this era of experimentation

04:03:53

and this is what it feels like it is

04:03:55

evoking a third person action game uh it

04:03:58

just a really pulled back view which is

04:04:00

a little bit unusual it's not that God

04:04:02

of War perspective and it just looks

04:04:04

like a capital V video game in the best

04:04:08

possible way that is going to uh push

04:04:10

you to the Limit it's going to test your

04:04:12

reflexes and just have really unique

04:04:14

combat with a really cool setting that

04:04:16

is kind of hard sci-fi with like an

04:04:19

alien HR Gyer Vibe I I'm I'm really

04:04:23

digging everything I'm seeing about this

04:04:25

game whether it be art Direction combat

04:04:27

technology all of the above this looks

04:04:30

like a Nick lamone video game and I

04:04:33

cannot wait to jump in I'm right there

04:04:35

with you this is this is evoking a lot

04:04:38

of the weird old just experimental

04:04:40

PlayStation that I grew up playing and

04:04:43

all the all the horror designs and

04:04:45

sci-fi designs are are coming together

04:04:47

and coalescing in ways that are singing

04:04:49

to me like this is exactly what I want

04:04:51

when I play a video game I wish the

04:04:53

Drone didn't look as much like a drone

04:04:54

but that's you know I'm nitpicky

04:04:56

everything else wait a minute are you

04:04:57

serious Brian I mean everything else Dr

04:05:00

to look like well I I don't know

04:05:02

everything else looks so weird and

04:05:03

inspired I'm just gonna be I'm gonna be

04:05:05

just a picky you got to buy one thing

04:05:08

cheese always Brian would not make it

04:05:10

long in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory

04:05:12

he would just not make it long no um I

04:05:15

think that this should get a Lego game

04:05:16

too especially the shot the overhead

04:05:18

shot of all the bodies in the ditch I

04:05:19

think would go you just fill that with

04:05:20

mini figs um no this this looks awesome

04:05:23

I I can't wait to play it uh we didn't

04:05:25

get a release date for it this is from

04:05:27

it's coming out in 2025 yeah we didn't

04:05:28

get a release dat yeah so we got a year

04:05:31

so I'll take that um because it's from

04:05:33

developer Rogue factor which has I'm

04:05:36

looking them up right now and it looks

04:05:37

like they've only made two previous

04:05:39

titles necromunda underhive Wars and

04:05:42

morheim City of the dam which are both

04:05:45

games that feel like you wouldn't pay

04:05:48

attention to them so the fact that they

04:05:50

are getting uh you know front placement

04:05:53

in a state of play is uh truly saying

04:05:56

something about what Sony sees in this

04:05:59

game and I think that this is a going to

04:06:01

be a breakout this looks like a breakout

04:06:03

title for this development team and I'm

04:06:05

very excited for them to finally get a

04:06:07

chance to shine in the in the spotlight

04:06:09

on that in that Sony Spotlight yeah I

04:06:12

love it I love it I'm all in

04:06:14

now of course uh you know I mentioned we

04:06:16

we got a few other games I want to I

04:06:17

want to kind of just do round table and

04:06:19

then Jada we're gonna we're going to

04:06:20

check in with our audience uh Brian what

04:06:22

were outside of ghost of yote uh and

04:06:24

Hell Is Us were there any other games

04:06:26

that kind of like stood out to you um

04:06:28

the midnight walk which uh first of all

04:06:31

shocking amount of psvr2 stuff uh in

04:06:33

this show today so remembered so

04:06:36

remember that they sold that finally

04:06:38

yeah um this game looks awesome it's uh

04:06:41

PS5 and psvr compatible so you can play

04:06:44

it uh in VR or flat as the VR people

04:06:48

like to call it um and it's it's very

04:06:51

like sort of vintage Tim burton-esque

04:06:53

clation um it reminds me of a uh Phil

04:06:57

tibit movie Mad God which came out a

04:06:59

couple years ago I don't know if you

04:07:00

guys saw yeah it's awesome crazy movie

04:07:02

um and he he was one of the original

04:07:03

puppeteers on Star Wars and creature

04:07:05

designers he designed the rancor and a

04:07:06

bunch of other awesome stuff uh and he

04:07:08

made this experimental stop motion film

04:07:11

uh not to be confused with another stop

04:07:13

film called stop motion which just came

04:07:15

out uh this year as well another horror

04:07:17

movie it's on shutter you can check

04:07:19

those out there uh that that's that's

04:07:21

like a very specific art style and it's

04:07:24

very hard to get right in a video game

04:07:27

um just because of the way the sort of

04:07:28

frames skip around but I really love

04:07:31

what they're doing here like this is a

04:07:33

very very beautiful unique looking video

04:07:36

game it didn't look like anything else

04:07:37

I've seen this year or anything else in

04:07:39

the Showcase um in terms of games wise

04:07:42

like I don't know you know how How deep

04:07:45

the gameplay is going to be if this is

04:07:46

just going to be sort of like a visual

04:07:47

Feast for the senses um or if if it'll

04:07:51

it'll it'll get deep it just looks like

04:07:52

you're this little guy with a you know a

04:07:54

lantern head and you go around trying

04:07:56

not to die but I'm into it I'm I'm very

04:07:58

into it it's from the team that did lost

04:08:01

and random which had a decent amount of

04:08:03

combat and was a very solid game so I'm

04:08:06

very excited to see what lessons they

04:08:08

kind of learned from this to expand into

04:08:11

the midnight walk and then I think it's

04:08:13

going to be real cool in VR I think this

04:08:16

is I think this is going to be one of

04:08:18

those like must playay VR experiences

04:08:21

like or must play this game in VR over

04:08:25

just playing it standard I think it's

04:08:26

going to really benefit from having that

04:08:29

VR2 headset I know that's not going to

04:08:31

be the way most people play it because

04:08:33

obviously it's a $600 hat that Sony is

04:08:36

barely acknowledging um I really enjoy

04:08:38

my psvr2 but I you know I'm happy that

04:08:40

we finally got more stuff like this the

04:08:43

fact that we're getting Hitman world of

04:08:45

assassination is coming to psvr2 what

04:08:48

else did we have Metro Awakening Metro

04:08:50

Awakening which is going to be another

04:08:52

one of that's just GNA be fantastic VR2

04:08:55

experience so like thank you Sony for

04:08:58

you know VR2 stuff yeah but yeah but so

04:09:02

so how about for you Jada what was uh

04:09:04

what was one of the highlights oh I mean

04:09:06

my my my game of the show is Monster

04:09:10

Hunter Wilds like hands down I've been

04:09:12

waiting for that game if anybody who's

04:09:14

watched any of our state of plays or

04:09:16

Sony showcases in the last six months to

04:09:19

a year since they announced Monster

04:09:20

Hunter wild it's all I've been talking

04:09:22

about and this trailer just was

04:09:24

fantastic the setting the lighting the

04:09:28

cinematography the action just how much

04:09:30

bigger and Larger than Life this feels

04:09:32

than world was just everything it's

04:09:36

looks like they're actually putting a

04:09:39

lot more care into the story and we're

04:09:41

going to have like a bigger deeper story

04:09:43

hopefully knock on wood fingers crossed

04:09:45

because I love my monster hunter the

04:09:47

stories are a little bit on the light

04:09:49

end which is fine because the core

04:09:51

gameplay Loop about that game is is eat

04:09:54

hunt sleep repeat and you know not a lot

04:09:57

of room for story in that um but it

04:10:00

looks like they're doing big things with

04:10:02

this one and all the attention they've

04:10:04

been showing it and taking it to all

04:10:06

these different trade shows so more

04:10:07

people can play it like that shows me

04:10:09

they're very confident in everything

04:10:11

that's going on with this franchise it's

04:10:12

one of Capcom bestselling franchise I

04:10:14

think world is still their bestselling

04:10:16

game of all time now if I'd have to

04:10:18

double check that those numbers uh since

04:10:20

but at one point it was but yeah I

04:10:23

cannot wait for Monster Hunter Wilds

04:10:24

this game is going to be fantastic and

04:10:27

man 2025 is going to be a banger of a

04:10:30

year for game releases already between

04:10:32

this goote and potentially GTA 6

04:10:36

potentially GTA 6 we don't know rock you

04:10:41

you know how how secretive Rock star is

04:10:43

with their stuff they'll they'll they'll

04:10:45

let it they'll have it out when it's out

04:10:46

when they're ready but it's coming out

04:10:48

next year 100% all

04:10:50

right coming out according to aem's

04:10:54

diary aem's timetables I love it no it's

04:10:57

coming out next year um but y'all

04:10:58

already know what I was excited to see

04:11:01

um and it was a DLC uh for uh Sonic X

04:11:05

Shadow generations of course Keanu

04:11:08

Reeves he's going to be voicing I mean

04:11:10

this isn't even a surprise but he's

04:11:11

going to be voicing shadow obviously in

04:11:13

the upcoming movie but he's also going

04:11:15

to be uh voicing him uh in the video

04:11:18

game for for the DLC uh which uh that's

04:11:21

included in the digital deluxe edition

04:11:23

um and uh that we also get the his skin

04:11:26

from the movie like look he's all fuzzy

04:11:29

and that's I'm excited for this I I'm

04:11:33

super excited for this uh the movie

04:11:34

comes out uh December 20th uh I believe

04:11:38

I don't think this is I don't know if

04:11:39

this is coming out day one when the when

04:11:41

the game drops uh December 12th for the

04:11:44

forc this yeah because I mean obviously

04:11:47

there I'm assuming there might be some

04:11:49

movie spoilers in there uh but no I'm

04:11:51

super excited for this uh I also very

04:11:54

smart move very smart move from Sega uh

04:11:56

doing this there they they time things

04:11:59

uh very uh perfectly uh with this with

04:12:01

this particular release obviously the

04:12:02

movie coming out in December and then

04:12:04

this coming out Sonic is always a money

04:12:06

maker for Sega Sonic was always good he

04:12:09

was never bad and he's G to continue to

04:12:11

be good especially moving on to 2025 we

04:12:14

just got that Sonic Central I forced

04:12:16

Brian to watch it and uh he nodded his

04:12:18

head yes he enjoyed it when I asked him

04:12:19

if he did yeah I know are we remastering

04:12:22

the debate we had about

04:12:25

this just changing the history books

04:12:27

don't remake anything these days um no

04:12:29

this is this is definitely very cool and

04:12:31

I'm happy for you AE this this is this

04:12:33

is what you've always dreamed of it is

04:12:35

it's one of the smartest bits of

04:12:36

marketing I think I've seen in a video

04:12:38

game in a long time of actually relying

04:12:41

on a movie release that Co inides with

04:12:43

the release of a game that used to

04:12:45

happen a whole lot more and it doesn't

04:12:47

really happen anymore so thankfully this

04:12:50

is the first time since Sonic Mania

04:12:52

where I'm like I should give this uh

04:12:55

Sonic game a chance so they me to be

04:12:59

fair to your point Nick back when we

04:13:01

used to get license games based on

04:13:02

movies that's when the license games

04:13:04

were absolutely terrible nine times out

04:13:07

of 10 they were just so bad so it's good

04:13:10

that they're coming back and it it's

04:13:12

good that they're

04:13:13

pairing it with something that's

04:13:14

basically already been done because this

04:13:16

is a remaster with more content with new

04:13:19

content added to it so it makes sense

04:13:21

for them to tie it in and use the kind

04:13:22

of movie license uh features with Keana

04:13:26

voicing it so but we'll see if we see

04:13:28

more of those coming and if we you know

04:13:30

repeat the the past of bad license games

04:13:33

I was going to make a joke about how the

04:13:35

Sonic games are terrible nine times at a

04:13:37

10 but I'm going to save AEM I'm keep

04:13:40

him happy you know I want to hear no

04:13:42

Brian please please say what you were

04:13:44

going to say about no no no we're good

04:13:45

we're good no I'm excited for you I'm

04:13:47

happy for you I think it's awesome that

04:13:48

hi Reeves keeps popping up in video

04:13:50

games like that's that's very awesome to

04:13:52

me um he seems like he seems like he's

04:13:54

like an old school video game nerd who

04:13:56

just grew up playing them he was like a

04:13:58

pivotal part of cyberp punk and the DLC

04:14:00

and it's been it's been really cool to

04:14:01

see him show up in in games where you

04:14:03

wouldn't expect him to like it there was

04:14:05

definitely a little disconnect there

04:14:07

when he started talking as the video

04:14:08

game character I'm like I don't know if

04:14:10

that totally works but I'm into it I

04:14:12

like the idea of it

04:14:14

uh yeah also I just love his vocal

04:14:16

versatility um every single character he

04:14:19

plays in a video game sounds drastically

04:14:21

different from the other um but uh you

04:14:24

know what let's let's check in with our

04:14:26

Facebook group uh Jada um you put out a

04:14:28

question to our Facebook group uh

04:14:30

obviously you know they were just as

04:14:32

excited um as we were for today's uh

04:14:34

state of play what was the question that

04:14:36

that we posed to so I I we put up

04:14:39

originally like what you were hoping to

04:14:40

see out of the state of play um but I

04:14:43

went ahead and posted another one during

04:14:45

the show of what was your favorite thing

04:14:47

from the state of play and let's see

04:14:50

what we've got so far uh so lunar

04:14:53

remastered collection from Ted darios uh

04:14:56

or darios I got that right uh never got

04:14:59

around to playing the first game as a

04:15:00

kid as it originally came out to the

04:15:02

Sega CD but I had the turbo Graphics CD

04:15:04

and wasn't going to Shell out a ton more

04:15:05

money for a second CD attachment big fan

04:15:08

of old jrpg so I'm looking forward to

04:15:10

this yeah Sega CD was a mess y'all um

04:15:13

for those who are young too young to

04:15:15

understand the Sega CD that was a mess

04:15:17

of a console it was great very good but

04:15:19

very much a mess with all the stuff you

04:15:21

needed um let's see Stephen a DA uh

04:15:25

ghost of yote do we think ghost of yote

04:15:27

is a full sequel or like a smaller game

04:15:29

like ratet and Clank Spider-Man Miles oh

04:15:31

no this is a full

04:15:32

sequel sure yeah it's a full sequel It's

04:15:34

a larger land mass just period you are

04:15:37

in Japan as opposed to a small island if

04:15:40

they reuse some some trees or leaves or

04:15:42

rocks I don't care it's fine do whatever

04:15:45

they're going to reuse what about the

04:15:46

horse Brian what if they reuse bring

04:15:48

bring the horse bring that horse back

04:15:49

give him some new some new hair or give

04:15:52

give me my pre-order horse back Su

04:15:54

pre-order horse I want that pre-order

04:15:57

horse um and then let's see I got one

04:15:59

more uh uh devlon Doug Douglas all the

04:16:03

Hitman games for psvr 2 Metro Awakening

04:16:05

VR getting a release date shockingly

04:16:07

even earlier than the Behemoth which we

04:16:09

didn't see today which is kind of

04:16:11

interesting uh mid walk getting psvr2

04:16:14

support was thinking the whole time the

04:16:15

art style would be terrifying in VR I

04:16:17

agree um but yeah lots of lots of VR

04:16:20

stuff being showed off so yeah like I'm

04:16:23

very happy for because we get a lot of

04:16:27

criticism on the show because we're very

04:16:29

critical on Sony and their psvr2 and how

04:16:31

they've been releasing games and how

04:16:33

they've just been handling it since

04:16:34

launch and so I'm happy that we're

04:16:36

starting to get these things and

04:16:38

showcase these things the way they

04:16:40

deserve to be showcased for this $600

04:16:43

peripheral that Sony convinced people to

04:16:46

invest in so I'm very happy that we're

04:16:48

starting to see these more mainstream

04:16:50

bigger things like psvr2 has been

04:16:52

launching a bunch of titles throughout

04:16:54

the year but they've been for the most

04:16:56

part smaller things and so it's nice to

04:16:58

have this these examples front and

04:17:01

center finally and larger experiences

04:17:03

because I do think like VR really shines

04:17:06

in the intricacy of your hand movements

04:17:09

like like halflife Alex is so impressive

04:17:11

because of all the minute details you

04:17:13

can manipulate with your hands and I

04:17:15

think that Metro the Metro universe is

04:17:18

perfect for that because there is so

04:17:21

much Nuance in how you approach a given

04:17:23

situation in any of the Metro games that

04:17:26

feel right at home in VR whether it be

04:17:28

checking how much ammo is left in your

04:17:30

clip because your ammo is also your

04:17:32

currency or as we see in Hitman you

04:17:34

could you know strangle someone from

04:17:37

behind or poison somebody's coffee it

04:17:39

just seems like developers are starting

04:17:42

to see

04:17:43

hey let's just get Nitty Gritty with VR

04:17:46

because that's really what makes it such

04:17:48

an impressive Medium as a whole so I'm

04:17:51

very excited for people to get wild in a

04:17:55

in psvr2 yeah Hitman looks fantastic

04:17:58

cannot wait for that one yeah those

04:17:59

Hitman games are are incredible and if

04:18:01

you somehow haven't played them and you

04:18:03

have a psvr2 like I obviously haven't

04:18:05

played this version yet but I can't

04:18:07

imagine it not translating well because

04:18:09

those games are a perfect combination of

04:18:13

violence and comedy and you get some

04:18:16

very very silly results playing games

04:18:17

like this in VR uh especially if you're

04:18:20

just going to be you know smacking

04:18:21

people around or stabbing them in the

04:18:23

back or throwing them over a balcony and

04:18:25

you can do all that with motion controls

04:18:26

and VR dude you're gonna have a blast

04:18:29

I'm gonna have so much fun backstabbing

04:18:31

people in this game it's gonna be great

04:18:33

I'm gonna have to get video footage for

04:18:34

you guys oh please do of both uh

04:18:37

gameplay and of you just IRL uh playing

04:18:40

because I I want to see how goofy you

04:18:42

look

04:18:43

swinging just that the air but you know

04:18:45

no this was a great showing uh for the

04:18:47

psvr to I'm so happy uh that we got uh

04:18:50

some some more releases coming so I can

04:18:53

dust the dust off of my uh my psvr too

04:18:56

um but I just want to shout out our

04:18:57

Facebook group again so thank thank you

04:18:58

so much everyone that uh submitted uh

04:19:01

their responses to Jada's uh question

04:19:03

that's facebook.com grroup podcast

04:19:06

beyond become a member uh we we do these

04:19:10

things all we're try we try to do these

04:19:11

we're going to try to do these every

04:19:12

single week uh for you all and uh

04:19:15

showcase uh your responses during the

04:19:18

show uh now the the first question the

04:19:20

initial question that you asked Jada um

04:19:22

was uh like was there

04:19:24

anything missing uh or or what do you

04:19:27

want to see from uh the the state of

04:19:30

play so I'm going to ask the question to

04:19:31

you all was there anything that you

04:19:33

think was missing uh from uh the state

04:19:35

of play that you wish you had seen or

04:19:38

that PlayStation had shown off Brian

04:19:40

I'll start with you um I I feel like we

04:19:43

needed to see The Last of Us Part One

04:19:44

remastered part two again thinking the

04:19:48

same I think they need we need a PS5 Pro

04:19:51

patch for that the the PS4 version did

04:19:53

get a pro patch so I'm kind of

04:19:55

disappointed um I want them to be like

04:19:57

bundled together so like literally when

04:19:58

you finish one it just rolls right into

04:20:00

two that's what we needed no one ever

04:20:03

played that game before uh in any of its

04:20:05

iterations they didn't watch the game

04:20:06

unfold as a TV show without even having

04:20:09

to reach for a controller so I'm pretty

04:20:10

I'm pretty let down actually with Sony

04:20:13

today and naughty dog no no no I mean it

04:20:15

it's for me it's it's it's the same one

04:20:17

as ow it's it's bloodborne I want I just

04:20:20

want something from that world I I just

04:20:22

want the REM like okay playing astrobot

04:20:26

as the as a bloodborne Hunter the entire

04:20:28

time was that was awesome especially

04:20:31

like the spooky levels because I was

04:20:32

like someone remembers someone at this

04:20:35

company remembers that people love this

04:20:37

character and you know it gave me a

04:20:40

glimmer of hope and I'm I'm not going to

04:20:42

let that hope hope

04:20:43

die well you might even though it died

04:20:45

today that was a I I will say I've been

04:20:49

watching chat the whole live stream and

04:20:51

bloodborne is by far the number one that

04:20:54

anybody that they've been spamming inat

04:20:56

take a shot every time you see

04:20:57

bloodborne men oh do not do that do not

04:21:00

do that we've not held liable that will

04:21:02

you take a shot of water take a shot of

04:21:04

water is great everyone listening

04:21:06

everyone commenting if they ever

04:21:07

actually do make this thing you we all

04:21:09

have to buy like two or three copies

04:21:11

each like we have to re we have to we

04:21:13

can't just be loud in the chat we got to

04:21:14

be loud in the

04:21:16

stores the wallet W see Tik toks I need

04:21:20

to see Tik Tok you guys got to get the

04:21:21

collector's edition whatever the premium

04:21:24

you know $300 I want the PS5 Pro

04:21:27

bloodborne Edition yep sacrificing buy

04:21:31

the art books in in multiple languages

04:21:33

all that do it do it support support

04:21:35

your Hunters buy a little little bag of

04:21:37

pig blood and spill it to show your

04:21:42

get any M from

04:21:44

that I don't want to figure out where

04:21:45

you can buy Pig blood but but J what

04:21:49

what did you want to see that that you

04:21:50

didn't so I don't know if it's that I

04:21:53

wanted to see but one that I was very

04:21:55

much expecting to see Wolverine like I

04:21:58

was gonna say that yes Wolverine is a

04:22:00

big one we've already it's been

04:22:02

announced we've been waiting for it we

04:22:04

got Deadpool and Wolverine this year we

04:22:06

got Xmen 97 this year I feel like it's

04:22:09

never been a better time to start

04:22:11

promoting Wolverine than right now but

04:22:15

you know obviously Insomniac had the the

04:22:17

hack and the leaks and all that type of

04:22:19

stuff and that has probably complicated

04:22:21

things so I'm not surprised we didn't

04:22:24

see it but I would have really loved to

04:22:26

see a little bit more than just Logan

04:22:28

sitting at that bar 100 waiting for

04:22:32

whoever to come in and greet him who

04:22:34

knows and and funny thing I was actually

04:22:36

thinking when when cery came out and

04:22:37

said we're going to show off some more

04:22:40

games that we haven't shown off yet I

04:22:42

was I was hoping to see just a Slither

04:22:45

of Wolverine game play yeah I was

04:22:47

thinking this would be a this would be a

04:22:49

great way to drop it we did like like

04:22:50

you said we got like extensive

04:22:52

unfortunately we got extensive uh

04:22:54

gameplay uh footage leaks and and and uh

04:22:57

cinematics as well uh this would have

04:22:59

been a great just like give us like a

04:23:00

three second Slither of you know don't

04:23:02

we don't need a release date I just want

04:23:04

to I just want to see it even though I'm

04:23:06

not gonna lie I did show me that it

04:23:08

still exists a little exactly yeah but

04:23:11

how about for you Nick

04:23:13

uh for me it was two things one the easy

04:23:15

layup was Spider-Man 2 DLC that felt

04:23:18

like a given I know that there's a lot

04:23:20

of

04:23:21

speculation um won't dive into the how

04:23:24

how verifiable any of them are but like

04:23:27

Venom DLC for Spider-Man 2 Felts like a

04:23:31

where is it at come on like a Insomniac

04:23:34

for being as prolific as they are with

04:23:37

you know game after game for the

04:23:39

PlayStation I'm just again uh take your

04:23:41

time I'm not trying to rush you

04:23:43

Insomniac everything you put out for

04:23:45

PlayStation is cooking I love it I'll

04:23:47

eat it up with a big spoon but just a

04:23:49

little surprised that we didn't get

04:23:51

Spider-Man 2 DLC uh in yeah that that's

04:23:55

the the big one and uh I think the other

04:23:57

one is seeing whatever Sony Bend is

04:23:59

working on because they've been kind of

04:24:01

radio silent for a long time uh days

04:24:04

gone I thought we might see a remaster

04:24:06

given all the rumors but uh no it

04:24:09

doesn't look like that's happening

04:24:10

anytime soon so Sony Bend again not

04:24:12

trying to rush you but just curious what

04:24:15

what are you guys cooking over there you

04:24:16

know uh Sony has a history or Sony

04:24:19

Studios have a a real good history of

04:24:21

supporting each other and I do wonder if

04:24:23

today they were all kind of like hey

04:24:25

this is this is sucker Punch's day like

04:24:27

let's give them that let's give them

04:24:29

that big Focus because a lot of the

04:24:31

other stuff was kind of smaller Studios

04:24:33

from Sony and updates from things we

04:24:35

already know exist and third party games

04:24:37

and I think like their one big one more

04:24:40

thing being the you know go yoai I I

04:24:43

think that was maybe them just being

04:24:45

like hey you have this moment you you

04:24:47

take this yeah 100% I I'm assuming they

04:24:51

wouldn't want to cannibalize all of

04:24:52

their giant you know unveils because you

04:24:54

know as even though a lot of the Sonni

04:24:57

first- party titles do feel thematically

04:25:00

similar they all are you know gargantuan

04:25:04

Blockbuster Games so it really does feel

04:25:07

like they all want to kind of get out of

04:25:09

the way of each other in order for it to

04:25:11

kind of really make the impact that

04:25:14

Sony's hoping for so I get it but still

04:25:17

I'm greedy I want

04:25:18

more I'm right there with you I'm I'm

04:25:20

extremely greedy I'm so greedy I was

04:25:22

hoping to see some Resident Evil 9 yes

04:25:26

and I didn't get that didn't even get a

04:25:27

remake or you know like a a I mean like

04:25:29

re5 Co Veronica nothing like that but I

04:25:32

feel like if if we did get a reveal like

04:25:34

that that might have you much uh to to

04:25:37

Nick's point you know like I feel like

04:25:38

it I I don't know it might have like

04:25:40

overshadowed uh like what the the one

04:25:42

last thing that we got you know ghost of

04:25:44

yoai like if we got a you know re9

04:25:47

announcement or even like one of like a

04:25:49

remake I don't know I think a lot of

04:25:51

people would have been more excited for

04:25:53

that than ghost to yoai just because of

04:25:55

the I mean the you know the Legacy the

04:25:58

the the long Legacy of of Resident Evil

04:26:01

um I don't know I wna I I want to I want

04:26:03

to see what what's going on with the

04:26:04

winners family you know think that I

04:26:07

have to think that they're keeping resid

04:26:08

Evil 9 for a Capcom presentation there

04:26:10

we've got TGs what this weekend so I

04:26:14

wouldn't put it past Capcom to hold that

04:26:15

on to that for themselves then again we

04:26:18

did get that first re4 remake during a

04:26:20

PlayStation state of play what 2022 I

04:26:24

want to say so it's not it's not

04:26:26

uncommon for Sony for Capcom to put

04:26:29

their big their big uh big guns on uh

04:26:32

Sony but I think I think with TGs I

04:26:34

think around the corner I think it makes

04:26:36

more sense for it to get announced there

04:26:38

now are we thinking are we thinking we

04:26:41

might get uh like either a a remake

04:26:44

announcement or uh an official sequel

04:26:47

announcement what are we thinking I

04:26:49

think nine is up next I think the the

04:26:51

well at least the last few years they've

04:26:52

gone remake new game remake new game and

04:26:55

you know the remakes have been uh the

04:26:57

really goodlooking Recreations of their

04:26:59

old third person games and the new games

04:27:01

have been first person um I'll take it

04:27:04

all I'm a huge Resident Evil fan I I'm

04:27:07

ecstatic to see what they do next they

04:27:08

did Resident Evil 4 Justice that's one

04:27:11

of my favorite Gam of all time and the

04:27:13

fact that they crushed it makes me just

04:27:15

go sure cook whatever you want to cook

04:27:17

I'm in yep whatever next I you got me

04:27:20

you got me at least for one next game

04:27:22

like 100% in on your next game um yeah

04:27:26

I'm I'm kind of curious about re9 like

04:27:29

if it is continuing the story of Ethan

04:27:31

Winter's daughter whose name I can't

04:27:32

remember right now um I I I have a

04:27:35

suspicion that it's gonna kind of

04:27:36

tonally change the direction of Resident

04:27:39

Evil moving forward because you know as

04:27:42

as we all know because we all played

04:27:44

that uh Resident Evil Village dlc about

04:27:46

starring the daughter she's like a

04:27:48

psychic so it it's going to feel very

04:27:51

much like control but from a Resident

04:27:54

Evil perspective so I I'm curious how

04:27:56

they can kind of maintain resident

04:27:59

Evil's like artistic and Creative Vision

04:28:01

while being side by side with something

04:28:03

like Jesse mcf or Jesse faden's uh

04:28:06

control like remedies control yeah I

04:28:09

don't I don't Nick I don't want that at

04:28:10

all I just want like a I want like a

04:28:12

dumb cop to come in that's what the

04:28:14

character I know but like that's what

04:28:16

she is I know but I I just want them to

04:28:19

be like okay we did her story in that

04:28:21

DLC it's done the winters family is is

04:28:23

we're g to put them away maybe there'll

04:28:25

be a note in a in a desk somewhere in

04:28:27

Resident Evil n give me give me Leon or

04:28:30

Chris or uh or Jill or anyone else who

04:28:33

just walks in they're like huh I don't

04:28:35

get it what's happening here this has

04:28:37

only been happening for 30 years of my

04:28:38

adult life and it keeps happening every

04:28:40

year but still

04:28:42

Brian I I love what they've been doing

04:28:44

though with the OG cast they just pop up

04:28:46

like you know hey what's up it's me yeah

04:28:48

I just I don't want to I don't want to

04:28:49

psychic in I get that I get that

04:28:52

technically Jill Valentine is Immortal

04:28:55

and she will always look the same

04:28:57

because she is infected with whatever G

04:28:59

or T Virus so I guess in theory she

04:29:01

could always come back whenever yeah and

04:29:04

that that was in re5 right where she

04:29:06

correct she was the there was an evil

04:29:08

Jill um I barely remember that game but

04:29:11

I I I did enjoy it all right so let's uh

04:29:13

I think we're we're running short on

04:29:15

time so uh I want to I want to do the

04:29:17

tried and true thing that we we tend to

04:29:19

always do at the end of these uh special

04:29:21

uh episodes and uh from a on the the the

04:29:25

patented IGN scale of one to 10 what do

04:29:30

we rate this state of play oh they get

04:29:32

so mad at us when we do this they're

04:29:34

going to do it they're gonna do we're

04:29:35

doing it right now okay uh man do I

04:29:39

think first chat let us know what you

04:29:40

think as well for those drop your

04:29:42

numbers in the chat you love tell us

04:29:44

what tell us what you think what this

04:29:46

what this was I love everything I do not

04:29:48

love everything um also we didn't get

04:29:51

Kingdom Hearts 4 today which is sad I

04:29:54

was hoping for that one I know I know

04:29:55

we're running L on time uh I'm gonna

04:29:58

pick a random number that I see in chat

04:30:00

and look look there's a couple sevens so

04:30:03

looks like we're giving it a seven out

04:30:04

of 10 it was a good showcas is the

04:30:07

numbers I saw when I was looking at chat

04:30:09

after asking thank you chat you have

04:30:11

chosen that it is a seven um that is the

04:30:14

number you guys have to live with now

04:30:16

yeah I'm looking at 0 two two three and

04:30:20

why would you give it a a zero I don't

04:30:23

know there's no way the Showcase could

04:30:24

be a zero we had we got we got so many

04:30:26

good games out of this quick quick shout

04:30:27

out to that sell blade near crossover

04:30:29

because that looks rad um I I will say I

04:30:33

will say seven also eight eight closer

04:30:36

to r eight because of uh go yote like

04:30:39

that is that that is one of my favorite

04:30:42

video game announcements of the year I'm

04:30:43

very excited for that game everything

04:30:45

else is just icing on the

04:30:47

cake how about you

04:30:49

Nick as for me I'm gonna give it a six

04:30:52

overall I mean I was pretty happy with

04:30:54

what I saw um hell is us is looks

04:30:56

outstanding ghost of yote looks cool but

04:30:59

for me no Kingdom Hearts 4 tragic uh no

04:31:04

Final Fantasy 7 remake part three or

04:31:06

whatever again I'm being unfair here

04:31:09

there's no way we're getting that today

04:31:12

I also feel like uh compared to a lot of

04:31:14

other competing companies who whenever

04:31:16

they have presentations there just feels

04:31:18

like a an avalanche of jrpgs that I'm

04:31:21

getting everywhere except PlayStation so

04:31:24

uh sadly uh not quite a presentation for

04:31:27

me well don't worry I'll make up for it

04:31:29

because your boy ate his Frosted Flakes

04:31:31

this morning I'm giving it an eight this

04:31:32

was great I loved it I loved it yeah you

04:31:36

sure you didn't have the Kingdom Hearts

04:31:37

but that's totally cool man y y'all made

04:31:39

up for it in in other ways and some of

04:31:41

the new games that showcase and the pspr

04:31:43

too y'all didn't forget about that uh

04:31:45

that as J calls it a fanciful magical

04:31:48

hat what you call it you call it

04:31:49

whatever you call it it's a a wonderful

04:31:51

wonderful 7 $600 hat it keeps getting

04:31:54

more expensive every time you I know 700

04:31:56

damn okay well you know what that's all

04:31:58

the time we have this was you know this

04:32:00

was I I would I would say great overall

04:32:02

I want to thank Brian and Jada and Nick

04:32:04

uh for joining me uh on breaking down

04:32:06

this state of play and and on that note

04:32:10

Beyond Beyond

04:32:13

still no bloodborne

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