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    this is democracy watch Mark I've gotten
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    this question more than any other
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    question especially in light of how
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    poorly JD Vance seems to the general
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    electorate right now can Donald Trump
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    have JD Vance replaced are there any
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    rules that prevent choosing a new VP
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    candidate after they're officially
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    nominated at their convention I mean
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    this guy has had the worst roll out of
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    any candidate ever I don't even just
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    mean vice presidential candidate I mean
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    it is hard to imagine a worse pick for
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    Donald Trump
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    who has done worse as his initial
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    impression I mean let's set aside the
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    fact that his policies are Bonkers and
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    the fact that he is attacking women who
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    have cats I don't even want to talk
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    about what the you know what if you
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    search on Twitter these days you find
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    about JD Vance yeah but no there's no
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    way to get him off the ballot there may
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    not even be a way to get him off the
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    couch okay but let's just stick with the
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    ballot like he is now the Republican
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    nominee for vice president of the United
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    States uh that paperwork the Republican
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    National Committee has submitted to the
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    states he's on the ballot now if he died
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    or if he was incapacitated um you know
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    some states allow for there to be a
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    swapping out there are some states that
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    would say you know that even if he just
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    turned out to be a total embarrassment
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    and with Drew he could be replaced but
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    Donald Trump has no more power to kick
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    him off like like they are stuck with
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    this guy and I'm pretty sure that he's
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    not leaving The Ballot or the couch well
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    what if for example just to game this
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    out for you're just like not going to
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    react to that to the couch I will I will
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    abstain from reacting to the uh the
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    narrative about what JD Vance may or may
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    not have done with his couch I will that
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    is between that's between you know what
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    I'm I'm firm on this position what what
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    happens between that man and his couch
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    is up to him in his couch and and I
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    unlike Republicans don't want to get in
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    between uh any sexual fantasies between
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    uh between a man and his loved ones I'll
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    just uh I'll leave it at that that's my
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    diplomatic response just just to game
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    this out for a moment what if JD Vance
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    himself seeks to to step aside to drop
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    out yeah like I said then you get into
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    this ma uh this Matrix of time and
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    reason right so like you know the
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    earlier he decided to drop out the more
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    likely it is that some states would
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    allow him to drop out and be replaced it
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    obviously gets progressively harder as
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    you get closer to the election because
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    ballots get printed ballots get sent out
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    right and so one of the things is like
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    when does it happen the other question
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    is what's the reason for it happening
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    right at one end of the spectrum if he
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    dies and you know I hope he doesn't I
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    mean that seriously like I don't wish
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    any ill on him um uh but you know if if
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    a candidate dies then a lot of states
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    have permissive rules in that
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    circumstances some place below that is
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    like incapacitated and below that is
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    just like I feel like I'm a laughing
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    stock and I no longer wish to run the
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    fewer States right because it's a it is
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    a burden to the state after after the
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    candidates have been certified and the
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    ballots have started to be printed now
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    you know In fairness the Democratic
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    National Convention hasn't taken place
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    yet so they have not yet had to submit
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    their nominee so ballots haven't yet
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    started being printed but JD JD van so
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    I'm going to give you this advice you're
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    really not popular and there's probably
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    nothing you can do about that but just
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    like sit on like a straight back chair
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    that's my advice that's good advice uh
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    do you think that Donald Trump at this
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    point regrets choosing JD Vance as his
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    running mate oh he definitely regrets
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    choosing JD Vance as his running mate
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    for two reasons first of all Donald
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    Trump only chose JD Vance because he
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    thought he was running against Joe Biden
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    right like let's just take you know take
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    all of the sort of fun out of this and
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    just look at this as a straight
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    analytical matter like he thought JD
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    Vance was the right matchup when he was
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    running against um against Joe Biden JD
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    Vance makes no sense where he is running
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    against uh KLA Harris I mean KLA Harris
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    is a much more and I this is not a knock
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    on President Biden by the way I he's
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    been a great president but but K Harris
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    has a range a much broader range of
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    skills in terms of public speaking and
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    and Prosecuting the case against Donald
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    Trump and so if Donald Trump knew that
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    that that this was going to be Harris
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    almost certainly he would have picked
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    someone who um who would be a more
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    effective speaker I mean JD Vance is not
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    a compelling speaker he is not a
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    compelling deliverer of a message and he
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    runs very hard to the right so I think
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    he's I think he regrets that the second
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    thing really quickly Brian is that
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    Donald Trump doesn't like to be upstaged
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    you know Donald Trump if there's going
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    to be a scandal he wants it to be about
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    him right he doesn't want anyone else
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    taking the Limelight and I'm sure he's
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    very unhappy right now you know one
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    thing Mike Pence was good about doing is
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    he'd get like a fly on his head but he'd
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    otherwise like blend into the the
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    backdrop and JD Vance is right now not
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    not doing that man who ever would have
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    guessed that Donald Trump would have uh
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    regret over not choosing Doug beram
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    right point right yeah now far from
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    being a a boon to the ticket do you
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    think that Vance actually drags Trump
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    down considering he won Ohio his own
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    state by a smaller margin than Donald
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    Trump himself did oh yeah there's no
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    question he's going to drag Trump down I
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    and and and I actually think they
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    probably assumed that when they were
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    running against Biden that that this was
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    not a candidate who was going to be a
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    creative in the vote share right I mean
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    he is running I mean JD Vance is an
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    unpopular figure um in an unpopular
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    party um and so he was never going to
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    add a state he was never going to add a
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    new segment of Voters but I think they
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    thought they had that room they now
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    don't have that room right they are now
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    running neck- and neck with with u with
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    vice president Harris see Donald Trump
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    by the time this weekend's over maybe
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    trailing uh KLA Harrison in some of the
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    critical swing States and JD Vance is an
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    anathema to those those key that key
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    Block in the middle he is also extremely
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    motivating of younger voters and voters
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    on the left who have to be motivated
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    yeah yeah uh and and by the way to those
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    all of those points you've been hitting
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    those hard in democracy docket which is
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    here on the screen and also in the post
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    description of this video Mark Vance has
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    actually called for outright ending
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    abortion and has even entertained the
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    idea of banning Interstate travel for
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    women seeking reproductive care in other
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    states how do you think that that's
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    going to play in Battleground States and
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    just as a as a piggyback to that can you
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    talk about the
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    constitutionality of of this effort by
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    Republicans to advocate for the Banning
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    of Interstate travel right so as you
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    know by your question that is actually
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    directly spoken in the Constitution that
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    you cannot do right so the right to
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    Interstate travel is one of the rights
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    uh guaranteed in the in the Constitution
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    its plain text so so that's a
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    non-starter but the fact that he thinks
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    that that is a political winner for him
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    just tells you how bad his judgment is
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    you know and let's remember here Brian
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    he is a senator from Ohio what have we
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    been talking about happening in Ohio a
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    ballot initiative on abortion right
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    where where Republicans are losing that
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    ballot like they have they have
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    systematically been losing on the issue
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    of abortion in Ohio I mean forget about
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    in the swing States JD Vance's position
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    is is is on the Deep defensive in his
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    home state and it is extremely unpopular
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    elsewhere and like I said that is just
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    the tip of the iceberg of the nonsense
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    and crazy extreme positions he Advocates
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    yeah Mark why do you think the fact that
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    Donald Trump tried to have his last vice
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    president killed uh doesn't seem to
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    matter to this long line of supplicants
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    who were vying for his uh VP spot look I
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    mean it has occurred to me that maybe
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    the reason why he chose JD Vance is
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    because like his last vice president not
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    just div fight him but objected to being
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    potentially murdered and maybe Vance has
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    made some assurances like look boss if
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    it comes to it you know like you know
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    like you know do what you got to do I
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    mean I don't know but is it is a
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    remarkable thing that that that JD Vance
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    was a Senator and you know that's not a
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    bad gig by the way right you know you're
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    get runaround you get called Senator
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    Senator Senator right and he decided to
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    trade that in for a job that let's just
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    say the Actuarial tables don't really
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    favor when it comes to the top of the
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    ticket thinking highly of you in the
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    cases of a failed election so you know I
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    I think that he is willing to humiliate
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    himself for sure um and I have no idea
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    what motivates him to do it well on the
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    uh on the humiliation front I think that
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    we're that we're just seeing the
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    beginning of that and I'll hearken back
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    to the uh to the uh couch Saga the
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    dolphin Saga if you don't know what I'm
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    talking about then uh then either either
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    either don't look this stuff up or you
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    don't you really don't want to look this
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    up guys all right well with that said
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    Mark and I will continue to stay on top
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    of this stuff as it continues to play
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    itself out for better or worse when it
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    comes to JD Vance again for those
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