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our first caller man that's what's up00:00:02
thank you for that I'm going to turn the00:00:04
mic over to you first question I'm going00:00:06
ask you is ly and deception okay and00:00:09
then you can just go ahead and and let00:00:12
us know what's on your mind concerning00:00:14
this final experiment and everything in00:00:16
the Flat Earth00:00:19
Community well respect to everybody out00:00:22
there enough love flat00:00:25
power power thank00:00:27
you the any time I'm going to do them00:00:30
type of things as if to save my life so00:00:33
if my life ain't on the line and I don't00:00:35
need to do no lying or no00:00:38
deceiving it's as simple as that and00:00:42
regards to what's going on out00:00:45
there I can't keep up anymore I only00:00:47
know what I know I I can't explain00:00:50
what's going on with all00:00:53
these these experiments because it's00:00:55
like one experiment explains this this00:00:57
one does this this one does that00:01:00
it's like all I can do is when I walk00:01:03
out there to me it's00:01:06
flat and to anybody else who don't think00:01:09
it's flat You' had to been taught the00:01:11
opposite if it was just down to you and00:01:14
your senses you'd be saying it's flat so00:01:17
that's all I can really say on them ones00:01:19
well we appreciate that input and if00:01:23
there's anything else man go ahead the00:01:25
floor is on you and when you're done I'm00:01:28
going to take over and I'm going to go00:01:29
ahead ahe and start you know what00:01:31
whatever I got for him I got a couple of00:01:33
things but yeah what whatever on your00:01:36
mind we haven't done this in a while00:01:38
I've been gone for a minute so I decided00:01:41
to uh you know and then if you if you00:01:45
want to stand by we can wait for the end00:01:48
man and we can get you in on a round00:01:50
table at the end so thank you00:01:54
Dwayne uh yeah it's been crazy when00:01:56
you're on not on it's like there's00:01:58
nothing to click on like00:02:00
I'm I'm looking I've been hearing that00:02:04
it's it's a weird one to explain because00:02:06
it's00:02:07
like you go on to your channel and00:02:09
there's nothing there and you're like no00:02:11
you almost have a little breakdown00:02:12
thinking what else can I go and look for00:02:14
and you try and look for other stuff and00:02:17
there's a few things out there but00:02:18
nothing that's as real as this so it's00:02:21
one of them but um as regards to00:02:24
anything else on my mind it's just over00:02:27
here I'm from the00:02:28
UK so to the00:02:31
UK for some reason don't know what's00:02:34
going on out here but everyone's losing00:02:36
like energy everyone just feel sluggish00:02:38
everyone just got no motivation00:02:41
like normally I'm up in the morning but00:02:44
right about now I just can't be bother00:02:46
to get up I don't know what's going on I00:02:48
don't know whether it's00:02:49
just energies and frequencies but00:02:52
everybody's just tired and sluggish and00:02:56
back pains00:02:57
and not wanting to do what they normally00:03:00
do but yeah anyway I'm gonna I'm Gonna00:03:03
Keep on here for a bit okay thank00:03:07
you I will be rotating callers in and00:03:11
out I will be rotating callers in and00:03:17
out so just stand by if you're in a00:03:20
waiting room um a lot of people saw a00:03:24
post that I put out in the community00:03:26
section when I said jiren officially00:03:28
denounced Flat Earth00:03:30
cuz a lot of people still don't get it00:03:33
all right the man is officially a glob00:03:37
birther and he's not no admitted Globe00:03:41
earther he's just saying he's not a flat00:03:43
earther but he's using his he's00:03:47
basically debunking Flat Earth now and00:03:51
um when he's debunking Flat Earth he's00:03:54
making the same Globe Earth argument00:03:56
that the Earth is just a big old ball00:04:00
and yes everywhere you measure on this00:04:03
Earth is going to be flat but that's00:04:07
because the ball is so big which is why00:04:10
he said 25,000 Home00:04:13
Depot 25,000 Home Depots everywhere you00:04:18
measure inside those 25,000 Home Depots00:04:22
is going to be flat right you I've00:04:25
measured it flat so he've measured it00:04:28
flat there is no C curvature on Earth00:04:31
okay and he said that even though it00:04:35
ain't no curvature on the earth why00:04:38
because Earth would be the inside of00:04:40
those Home00:04:42
Depots and we would measure everywhere00:04:45
inside of their flat but he said what if00:04:47
those Home Depots was on top of a big00:04:51
ball you would never measure the curve00:04:54
because inside of the that Home Depot00:04:57
it'll measure everywhere flat and if00:05:00
inside the Home Depot is00:05:03
Earth that's Flat Earth like come on man00:05:07
like come on bro00:05:09
stupid so here is00:05:11
[Music]00:05:13
a I don't know if y'all can see this00:05:16
let's go big00:05:19
screen all right so one thing I want to00:05:22
say is00:05:23
this I don't like what I don't like is00:05:27
this right00:05:30
it's so much that I got to say I don't00:05:32
know where to start so I'm taking my00:05:34
time hit the like and share button on00:05:36
your way in now let me say say this00:05:39
about the AE map I want to say that the00:05:42
AE map has not been debunked Sanchez00:05:46
what you mean man Flat Earth ain't been00:05:49
debunk but the AE map been debunk00:05:52
Sanchez listen the AE map has not been00:05:56
debunked here is what's been debunked00:06:01
we got to be clear that the AE map has00:06:05
not been debunked and that the circling00:06:08
Sun have been debunked what I don't like00:06:11
about jeranism he's so egotistical00:06:16
narcissistic that he can't say I was00:06:19
wrong about the circling sun over the AE00:06:22
map he got to try to tear the whole AE00:06:25
map down as if he invented it now hear00:06:29
me00:06:30
out if someone take this map right here00:06:34
and they put a sun and moon over it00:06:37
that's something that they're doing the00:06:40
man that made this map he didn't put a00:06:43
sun and moon over it so how you debunk00:06:45
in this map how you that's the question00:06:49
you got to00:06:50
ask now people think that I'm G to stop00:06:54
rocking the AE map you're wrong I'mma00:06:58
show you why man00:07:00
every time y'all see me using the AE map00:07:04
guess what you don't see a sun and moon00:07:09
over you see that map right there it has00:07:13
not been debunked you know00:07:15
why do you see a circling sun over it00:07:20
no do you see a sun00:07:24
circling over the flat power gear you00:07:27
don't you can't you can't can't debunk00:07:30
this map unless you put the circleing00:07:33
Sun and Moon over it why because if00:07:36
Sanchez make a crime rate map if I come00:07:40
out with a map and it got the statistics00:07:42
of crime rate on the map and the map is00:07:46
just to show you the crime rate in this00:07:50
particular area just say the world crime00:07:53
rate all over the world and it's going00:07:55
to be red if it's more crime blue if00:07:59
it's less and it'll fluctuate with00:08:01
colors right boom that's the00:08:03
map now if somebody say I'mma take the00:08:06
crime rate map00:08:09
right00:08:11
and I'mma take the crime rate map and00:08:14
I'mma put a sun and moon right over this00:08:18
crime rate00:08:20
map and if the Sun and Moon don't work a00:08:24
certain way over that crime rate map00:08:27
then the hell with that crime rate map00:08:30
that ain't the way it work the hell with00:08:32
your sun and moon over00:08:34
it that map is accurate when it comes to00:08:38
the purposes of why the map was built00:08:41
now guess what the map is y'all it is a00:08:44
asmal equidistant projection map this00:08:49
shows how all of the magnet magnetic lay00:08:53
lines go to the North Pole and expand00:08:56
outward and that's correct that's00:08:59
correct00:09:00
the person that made this map the00:09:02
purposes of why they made it they got it00:09:05
correct let me give a shout out to00:09:08
Leonard Robinson thank you so much for00:09:10
that Super00:09:13
Chat appreciate that my brother we00:09:15
appreciate the love right00:09:17
there00:09:20
and he says salute brother Sanchez flat00:09:24
power Mobile Alabama in the house that's00:09:26
what's00:09:28
up so thank y'all so much for all of00:09:31
your support we do have a goal that we00:09:36
trying to reach uh to keep the show00:09:39
extended as you can see little icon00:09:42
should be in the top of the chat room00:09:44
but back to what I was00:09:46
saying the man that made this map he00:09:50
made this map just to show you the ASM00:09:54
ofal equidistant projection and he got00:09:58
that right00:10:00
he he he didn't get that wrong listen00:10:02
people if Sanchez make a a map to for00:10:06
one purpose and that map served that00:10:09
purpose ain't nothing wrong with that00:10:11
map man and people got to quit instead00:10:14
of somebody saying you know what I was00:10:17
wrong for putting a sun and moon on this00:10:20
man map cuz he didn't put one on00:10:23
it you see what I'm saying he didn't00:10:26
cons was considering that when he see00:10:28
different Maps serve different purposes00:10:32
and they only got to be accurate for the00:10:34
purpose of what the map serves there are00:10:37
certain maps that won't be accurate on00:10:41
certain things but it'll be accurate on00:10:44
others you see what I'm saying00:10:47
and it's just whatever kind of map that00:10:50
is let me give a shout out00:10:53
to Big Dog Philly thank you for the00:10:57
Super Chat appreciate that00:11:00
[Applause]00:11:03
so people00:11:05
um I'm just saying it's very00:11:09
clear this map still going to serve the00:11:12
purpose of the ASM of equidistant00:11:16
projections is right about that and00:11:18
that's the name of the map it ain't the00:11:20
circle and Sun map it ain't the jism map00:11:25
or the Flat Earth model or none of that00:11:29
and the crazy thing about it the dude00:11:32
that made this00:11:35
map he he didn't even make it with flat00:11:38
Earth in mind even though it it is you00:11:42
know Flat Earth he didn't name it the00:11:44
Flat Earth a map or nothing like that he00:11:48
name it the ASM of equidistant00:11:50
projection why cuz the most important00:11:52
thing about this map is these lines that00:11:55
you see on it these lines that you see00:11:58
you see see those00:12:01
lines those are the ASM of the00:12:03
projection00:12:05
lines they're equally distance apart00:12:09
that's why it's called equidistance equi00:12:12
is equal equality distant is showing you00:12:16
each one of these magnetic lay lines is00:12:19
perfectly me they they equal in measure00:12:23
so the Earth is intelligently designed00:12:26
because when you study the way the00:12:28
magnet ISM flow with the Earth is like a00:12:32
spider web and if we look at a spider00:12:35
web in nature we know that something00:12:38
intelligently designed a spider00:12:41
web so why wouldn't we think the same00:12:44
about the universe when we get all of00:12:46
these sacred geometrical shapes that00:12:48
come from intelligent Consciousness00:12:51
sentient Consciousness00:12:55
so this right here has nothing to do to00:12:58
man made this probably have no clue on00:13:01
how the Sun work or Moon work that's a00:13:04
whole another conversation within00:13:07
itself the conversation that we should00:13:10
be having about this map is did he get00:13:13
the aimal equidistant projections right00:13:17
because if that if you can prove that00:13:19
this man who made this AE map got the00:13:23
ASM of the projections wrong we got to00:13:26
throw this map away but just cuz Jer00:13:30
put a sun and moon over this00:13:33
thing just cuz jiren did that and he got00:13:36
that wrong man we ain't got to trash00:13:39
this man's work he didn't the man that00:13:43
made this map didn't put no sun and moon00:13:45
over shout out to Dolph Obama said00:13:49
welcome back Sanchez salute to you Fam00:13:52
thank you so much00:13:55
[Applause]00:13:59
let let's let's let's do uh00:14:03
another another poll and if someone00:14:08
think Lyon and immoral is okay then come00:14:11
on up click the link and explain we'll00:14:14
be letting callers on throughout the00:14:16
show00:14:18
um so what was I going to do I'm gonna00:14:20
make another poll00:14:24
right we got two questions is the AE map00:14:28
debunk is lying and deception00:14:37
immoral is lying and deception00:14:41
immoral is the AE map debunk let's take00:14:45
a caller and then I'll hop back to some00:14:47
of my AE map ranting and we'll play some00:14:50
Jaren clips and we'll go to00:14:53
reading jiren's message that he put00:14:57
where he's denouncing flatter Earth00:14:59
that's all coming up right here in a00:15:02
minute that's all coming up right here00:15:04
in a minute let's take another caller00:15:07
25,000 Home00:15:09
Depot let's take another00:15:16
caller we going to take another caller00:15:19
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channel salutes to everybody the chat00:15:37
room we taking another call a zaetic00:15:40
warrior H are you able to cam00:15:45
up Mike check you able to cam up thank00:15:49
you yeah let me uh let me see what I got00:15:51
here but yeah you can take over the00:15:53
floor it's a pleasure to have you on00:15:55
your name definitely ring bells around00:15:58
here you already know I know who you are00:16:01
and and that you already been fighting00:16:02
on the side of the truth you don't need00:16:04
a big introduction we respect you over00:16:07
here my brother so I'mma turn the mic00:16:09
right over to you and let you give us00:16:11
what you got for us we all00:16:13
ears blessings to you br Sanchez and00:16:16
blessings to the00:16:19
audience where to begin let's start off00:16:22
with the AE map that you were just00:16:25
showing the showing00:16:27
everybody agre read a map is basically a00:16:32
projection of a grided longitude and00:16:36
latitude and that one in particular was00:16:39
showing the latitude lines is nothing00:16:42
more nothing less any model that has00:16:46
been ascribed to that map was merely00:16:49
placed on it by what I dub the Flat00:16:52
Earth gatekeeping community that we have00:16:55
seen here prominently on YouTube since00:16:58
201500:17:00
prominent among that Community is of00:17:02
course one Mr jiren00:17:04
Campanella now one of the goals I00:17:08
believe of this so-called final00:17:10
experiment was to00:17:14
basically uh debunk or in some way00:17:18
devalue this map along with the Flat00:17:23
Earth community in00:17:26
general now when we look at a00:17:29
map we associate it with time zones and00:17:34
of course uh00:17:36
navigation this AE map seems to be the00:17:41
best map for Celestial navigation okay00:17:45
but one thing we know about the00:17:47
celestial bodies is basically the point00:17:51
I've been trying to make to jiren for00:17:52
months now and the point that you made00:17:55
to jiren at the same time I did is that00:17:58
the celestial bodies whether it's the00:17:59
Sun the moon the stars or the so-called00:18:02
planets cannot be triangulated from any00:18:06
map or any Globe meaning to say the00:18:09
celestial bodies are what is called00:18:12
apparent the way we view these bodies is00:18:16
dependent on your position on Earth00:18:19
nothing more nothing less so whether one00:18:22
ascribes to a globe or any Flat Earth00:18:26
maps we know that the celestial bodies00:18:29
and the heavens we observe are not as00:18:32
simple as these Flat Earth Gatekeepers00:18:34
would like us to believe now I00:18:38
conjecture that these Gatekeepers00:18:41
promoted a map and a model for certain00:18:45
purposes one obviously financial and we00:18:48
can go from there because once you have00:18:50
a model you can brand flat Earth you00:18:53
become flat Earth Inc you can then00:18:56
promote things like apps like the clock00:19:01
uh the app that David Weiss promotes and00:19:04
which is supported by all of these00:19:08
Confederates among this gatekeeping00:19:10
community jiren primary amongst those so00:19:13
this final experiment was merely an00:19:16
attempt to present a false dichotomy in00:19:19
which they strawman each flat earther00:19:22
into a particular model and then based00:19:24
off a Celestial observation which cannot00:19:27
be substantiated cannot be proven cannot00:19:29
be measured cannot be repeated debunk00:19:33
this basically reified begging the00:19:37
question model in an effort to smear all00:19:41
flat earthers in general now we have the00:19:45
next stage in their plan with jiren now00:19:49
coming out yesterday saying that the00:19:51
Flat Earth Community is a quote00:19:54
dangerous cult now this I believe has00:19:59
been the plan all along with jiren since00:20:02
at least the beginning of his00:20:03
association with Will Duffy and00:20:05
potentially prior to00:20:11
that the the whole thing about him00:20:14
coming up saying we're a dangerous cult00:20:17
now is going to seg way into another00:20:19
topic that I wanted to point out was hey00:20:23
man you took a map you put a sun and00:20:27
moon over it no one told you to do that00:20:31
you found out you were wrong okay00:20:35
and because everyone in the Flat Earth00:20:38
Community don't want to just readily00:20:42
accept the Antarctica footage we're a00:20:45
dangerous cult now you know and the00:20:48
crazy thing about it is he was saying00:20:51
that the globe birthers were a dangerous00:20:53
cult right and if you feel like we're a00:20:58
dangerous cult why would you now go and00:21:00
be cool and in collaboration with the00:21:03
glob birthers if you don't like00:21:06
dangerous coats you wouldn't mess with00:21:08
neither side you wouldn't mess with us00:21:10
or them if you felt like we're both a00:21:12
dangerous coat but my thing is this00:21:15
right here about this final00:21:18
experiment you you want to comeback and00:21:20
everyone that don't accept the footage00:21:23
and we want to scrutinize it and00:21:25
investigate why it ain't no Footprints00:21:27
why it ain't no breath coming out of00:21:29
wisit mouth well all of our00:21:31
investigations what you think was going00:21:34
to happen once you do something that00:21:36
everyone can't verify for themselves00:21:39
this is the purpose of us doing00:21:41
experiments that everyone can do versus00:21:46
just like NASA a few men going to space00:21:50
and and when a few men go to space and00:21:52
say well it's a globe what you think we00:21:54
going to do we're going to scrutinize00:21:56
the F the videos we're going to sift00:21:59
through the photos and say hey what00:22:00
about this what about that because why00:22:03
we didn't go to space they did and human00:22:06
beings don't just take stuff like that00:22:09
front but that'll be I'mma tell you what00:22:11
I don't get right if I went to00:22:14
Antarctica and I know that I didn't do00:22:17
nothing wrong and I was an honest person00:22:20
and this is this footage is legit you00:22:22
know what I would tell people00:22:24
investigate it all you want to I don't00:22:27
care I I'm glad you investigating you00:22:30
ain't going to find nothing because I00:22:33
know that the footage is legit that's00:22:35
how a person talk when the footage ain't00:22:37
legit but the way they acting make00:22:40
people want to investigate it more00:22:43
because it's it's like hey man why are00:22:45
y'all looking into it and all that the00:22:48
same reason jiren was looking into00:22:50
NASA's footage when he was a flat00:22:53
earther I mean we want to prove all00:22:56
things right Christians then the B say00:22:59
that so the fact that you got a pastor00:23:03
that funded this trip who teaches lying00:23:06
and deception and when you scrutinize00:23:09
the footage they get00:23:11
defensive remember that the Bible say00:23:14
prove all things so a pastor who really00:23:17
teaching the Bible should be telling00:23:20
Christians prove that the video footage00:23:23
is00:23:24
fake I'll wait and he should be00:23:26
confident if he's honest00:23:29
not scary and defense00:23:31
defensive so zic Warrior if you want to00:23:36
stick around you can you can you know00:23:38
co-host or whatever if you want to stick00:23:41
around with me man yeah I'll stick00:23:42
around I got time all right and yeah00:23:44
I'll keep you on the call and we'll00:23:46
bring in some more people U one at a00:23:50
time uh as we go out through the show00:23:53
but I want to share some more stuff we00:23:54
want to unpack this with me if you want00:23:58
to00:23:59
so what I'm saying about Jaren is he's00:24:02
acting like a baby before I read this I00:24:05
want to point something00:24:07
out if you found out you was wrong about00:24:10
your circling son over the AE map okay00:24:14
man like you said go back to the drawing00:24:16
board and figure it out don't get mad if00:24:20
every flat earther don't want to go back00:24:22
to the drawing board and figure it out00:24:24
with you because when you came out with00:24:27
the circl and sun claim you was by00:24:29
yourself so you need to go back to the00:24:32
drawing board by yourself and see jiren00:24:35
is looking for a reason to turn on a00:24:37
flat Earth community and the Flat Earth00:24:39
Community ain't really giving jiren a00:24:42
reason to do that because I was shocked00:24:45
at how many flat earthers still love00:24:48
jiren after this whole final experiment00:24:52
jiren went live and I ain't gon to lie00:24:54
to y'all I was kind of in my feelings00:24:56
cuz I was like you know what flat00:24:58
earthers ain't missed a beat it's like00:25:00
he haven't done nothing they still like00:25:03
it's like he haven't done nothing wrong00:25:05
you know the flat earthers are still00:25:07
like just wait till the footage come out00:25:09
man you know they rocking with jiren and00:25:12
jiren is just talking so much crap about00:25:16
the flat earthers like and I'm like well00:25:18
dog that's kind of crazy because even00:25:21
after all this the flat earthers rocking00:25:23
with you and you still talking crap00:25:26
about them and then it hit me00:25:29
yep they paid Jaren off they paid him00:25:32
off to turn on this community it ain't00:25:34
enough just to do a hit piece what jiren00:25:37
got to do after this hit piece he got to00:25:40
go on The Joe Rogan he got to make his00:25:43
Rounds Around the big platforms and you00:25:45
know what he going to be the Flat Earth00:25:48
victim that would fa victim to this00:25:51
dangerous cult and he was so brainwashed00:25:55
right by this dangerous cult and it's so00:25:58
many other people in in in it that and00:26:01
then it's it that's what it's going to00:26:03
be it's not going to stop Jaren is00:26:06
putting himself in a position to be a00:26:09
combatant against Flat Earth versus a00:26:12
person that says well I thought the00:26:14
Earth was flat but I saw something that00:26:16
got me scratching my head let me go back00:26:19
to the drawing board he ain't going back00:26:21
to the drawing board he going to the00:26:23
battlefield against the people who00:26:25
before he went on that trip he was cool00:26:28
with00:26:30
he was cool with him so something on00:26:32
that trip was like okay we got to hit00:26:35
this Pro this campaign after this he's00:26:38
been briefed on how to move after this00:26:40
don't do no more interviews with flat00:26:43
earthers you are now the00:26:45
media you know puppet and I'm telling00:26:48
you I think that he's going to make his00:26:50
rounds and he's going to be the crybaby00:26:54
flat00:26:55
earther who goes around and say how he00:26:58
get bullied by Flat Earth that's how00:27:00
it's so dangerous and violent and00:27:03
they're just such a you know stubborn00:27:07
cult that should be stopped that's what00:27:10
they're horrible people is what Jaren is00:27:12
about to go on you know and it's going00:27:15
to be oh Jarry come Cry on My Shoulder00:27:18
we got to stop those bad guys that's00:27:21
what this is about to be now let's let's00:27:25
read let me turn my heater down a little00:27:29
let's read um it says what my Hope was00:27:34
once I saw it was a fact that the sun00:27:37
circles The Observer I thought Fe would00:27:40
realize we were wrong and step back stop00:27:43
right there who is we who is00:27:46
we why don't he say I thought that all00:27:50
of the flat earthers who believe in the00:27:52
circling sun was wrong right there is00:27:55
the part where I say he's a agent00:27:58
because you're trying to throw the whole00:27:59
Flat Earth Community under the bus with00:28:03
your00:28:04
mistake everyone in the Flat Earth00:28:07
Community know that every flat earther00:28:10
in the world didn't go with the dog on00:28:13
circl and Sun model I know that because00:28:16
I've debated several flat earthers and00:28:20
defended jiren's model why because I00:28:23
didn't never question jman's model but I00:28:26
wasn't stuck to no model only thing I'm00:28:28
stuck to is that the Earth is flat now00:28:31
there are several different models when00:28:33
it come to what the sun do and I don't00:28:35
shoot either one of them down I would00:28:37
share multiple ones on one stream and uh00:28:41
let the people decide which one is best00:28:44
cuz I never really thought we had to be00:28:46
accurate about what the stars do a flat00:28:49
earther just got to be accurate that the00:28:51
Earth is flat that's why you're called a00:28:53
flat00:28:54
earther so you know we going to break is00:28:58
down but that first sentence is00:29:02
very very much so a red flag and showing00:29:06
you how everything he's doing is to00:29:09
throw this whole Community under the bus00:29:12
what a mistake that he made and what00:29:15
jiren is trying to make it like we're so00:29:17
stubborn we won't admit the truth but he00:29:19
won't admit the truth that not everybody00:29:22
was going along with the circle Sun00:29:25
that's the deceptive and and dirty part00:29:28
like if jiren want everyone who went00:29:31
with the circle son to be honest I feel00:29:33
him on that I'm with him on that if you00:29:35
was teaching a circle son over the AE00:29:38
map you need to admit to your people hey00:29:41
man that was wrong maybe some of the00:29:44
claims that these other flat earthers00:29:46
were saying about the son we should00:29:49
consider him now because people was00:29:51
telling jaring different concepts about00:29:54
the son other than what he was saying he00:29:56
just kept shooting him down and it's one00:29:59
thing to shoot him down but to act like00:30:02
they don't exist is satanic man that is00:30:05
wicked bro to get in front of the public00:30:08
and act like every flat earther was just00:30:10
following you and your model when people00:30:13
was trying to debate you on your model00:30:16
bro it's is and that's when I say well00:30:19
jiren is acting like a agent right now00:30:23
and I don't care what how you feel about00:30:25
that00:30:26
so this net C00:30:30
says he thought that we would get some00:30:32
Zoom meetings together and start00:30:35
figuring it out instead they just yell00:30:38
fake well think about this man you had00:30:42
high expectations and again that's your00:30:45
fault jiren jiren the same community00:30:49
that you talk the question all video00:30:52
footage Jaren you remember this when we00:30:54
were when we're debunking NASA and ISS00:30:58
when we going through all of this space00:31:01
footage we are very critical of this00:31:05
footage that we're getting from NASA and00:31:07
stuff and what I don't like about flat00:31:10
earthers like jiren they want us to be00:31:14
very critical of NASA's footage but not00:31:17
theirs why why do you and and see if we00:31:22
are wern't00:31:24
critical of this anarctica footage then00:31:27
guess what extic Warrior we would be00:31:30
acting like a cult then because jiren is00:31:33
saying we're acting like a cult but I00:31:35
think it's just the opposite if flat00:31:38
earther is scrutinized and we're very00:31:41
critical of NASA's footage but we don't00:31:46
do that to a flat earther then we'll cat00:31:49
but the fact that flat earthers are00:31:51
questioning jiren's footage just like we00:31:55
do with00:31:56
NASA we ain't a cult we're00:31:59
equal you want us to be a cult so we00:32:02
don't question you yeah go ahead00:32:04
go exactly right the globe is the00:32:09
cult a cult is basically a group of00:32:12
individuals however small or large that00:32:14
follows a leader follows a Doctrine00:32:18
Orthodoxy without question without00:32:21
scrutiny that's the00:32:23
globe the entirety of society is00:32:27
following the acade the academics the00:32:29
so-called the so-called00:32:32
scientists the00:32:35
priests NASA and everything else from00:32:37
the top down that's the00:32:40
cult we're the community who is00:32:43
scrutinizing the information using our00:32:46
god-given abilities of critical thought00:32:49
logic00:32:51
reasoning to actually examine the world00:32:53
around us objectively00:32:58
the globe is the cult the Flat Earth00:33:00
Community is the complete00:33:01
opposite what jiren is evidencing is00:33:05
classic controlled00:33:07
opposition what you do is you00:33:11
basically00:33:13
F uh an issue a00:33:17
problem okay then when there's a00:33:21
reaction you then play the victim all00:33:25
right it's just like an NFL football00:33:27
game00:33:28
the referee usually doesn't see the00:33:30
initial penalty it's the00:33:34
retaliation this is what jiren and00:33:38
whoever his co-conspirators are up to00:33:42
it's classic gaslighting classic00:33:44
controlled opposition it's exactly what00:33:47
one would do if there's information that00:33:51
would be let's say delicate and00:33:54
threatening to the control structure so00:33:57
what what else to do implant your00:34:01
basically00:34:02
agents have them become endeared to the00:34:06
community let them build popularity and00:34:09
then of course change the narrative to00:34:13
suit the agenda of the00:34:15
controllers this is what we're seeing00:34:17
here in my00:34:18
belief yeah we're definitely seeing that00:34:21
I can I can go along with that he he00:34:25
said that we should get some Zoom00:34:28
meetings together and start figuring it00:34:30
out and my thing is this man came back00:34:35
from anarctica with a poem that was so00:34:39
long it was so crazy something it's like00:34:42
bro that poem was longer than the00:34:45
Mariana's Trench dude it's like and it00:34:49
was so boring and00:34:52
just oh man don't even get me thinking00:34:55
about it but I'm like00:34:58
how do you get right back from00:35:00
Antarctica with a long porn what were00:35:02
you doing over there writing porry I'm00:35:05
I'm a poet y'all I'm literally a00:35:08
published poet you can Google my work00:35:11
online and the crazy thing about it is I00:35:14
know that if you're writing poetry it00:35:17
takes a minute you get in your Zone and00:35:19
all that and I'm like when you had time00:35:22
at in Antarctica to write porty at you00:35:26
come back with this long whack ass poem00:35:29
sir you know and he just he just came00:35:33
back a Home Depot earther and if there00:35:36
are any Home Depot earthers that are00:35:39
among us we would like to hear from you00:35:42
guys let me acknowledge some of these uh00:35:46
super chats real quick if y'all don't00:35:48
mind 25,000 Home00:35:51
Depot uh let me see00:35:54
here shout out to my brother one world00:35:58
one Hood thank you so much for your00:36:03
support appreciate you og1 world shout00:36:08
out to Sana said grateful for you00:36:12
brother holdiness and balance vibrations00:36:14
to you yours and ours thank you so00:36:18
[Applause]00:36:21
much if anybody with any intelligence00:36:24
realizes that the sun cannot be going00:36:26
around somebody an Arctica and the Earth00:36:28
be flat okay so let00:36:31
me finish uh hold on a second let me00:36:34
finish reading this if y'all want to00:36:37
join click the link that's pinned to the00:36:39
Top If you are in the waiting room I'll00:36:41
be with you in a00:36:46
minute all right so this says00:36:51
that instead they just yelled fake okay00:36:57
not everybody yell fake too by the way00:37:00
there uh that's another thing that the00:37:02
Flat Earth Community is split up about a00:37:05
lot of people is saying is all fake and00:37:08
half of the community saying it's not00:37:10
fake but it still don't prove nothing so00:37:14
um I don't know why jiren want to make00:37:16
it like all flat earthers saying it's00:37:19
fake and all flat earthers was going00:37:21
along with it that's what the media00:37:24
would love for it to be and he just00:37:27
painting this thing in such a way that00:37:29
make me really think he's a double agent00:37:33
especially when you consider the fact00:37:35
that he has an IMDb and he has a history00:37:39
of doing hit pieces so it goes on to say00:37:44
they accuse me of the worst crime00:37:47
against humanity what faking footage he00:37:49
acts like a little baby I swear he acts00:37:53
like a little baby00:37:55
man they accuse me of the the worst00:37:58
crime again that how is that the worst00:38:00
crime against humanity that maybe they00:38:02
fake the footage especially when a00:38:05
pastor who teaches lying and deception00:38:09
funded the whole thing shout out to00:38:12
Astro 40K thank you so much you guys for00:38:15
the donations I really appreciate00:38:21
it Astro 40 said welcome back flat power00:38:25
salutes camera looking Crips can dro the00:38:28
link by the way okay yeah I'll drop the00:38:30
Callin link once again and we will be00:38:33
bringing people in to the bill00:38:35
throughout the show I want to get00:38:36
through this crybaby ladder this is00:38:42
crazy he's acting like flat earther is00:38:44
doing so much to him we ain't done00:38:46
nothing to you that you ain't do to00:38:49
globers and00:38:50
NASA all right and you don't get special00:38:54
treatment we're going to be critical of00:38:56
anything get given to us and we ain't00:38:59
letting our guard down just cuz it's00:39:02
Jaren like and you shouldn't want us to00:39:05
because guess what whatever happened to00:39:07
don't take my word for it prove it00:39:10
yourself and do your own research00:39:12
whatever happened to that we went from00:39:14
that to oh you don't believe us then you00:39:17
guys are ridiculous you guys are00:39:20
dishonest you're horrible people we00:39:22
that's where we at now so00:39:27
he said and they refuse to admit they00:39:29
are wrong and apologize think about this00:39:33
right he's trying to flip it this some00:39:34
reverse00:39:35
psychology he's wrong about the fact00:39:39
that a son observation changes the00:39:42
measurements that he measured on the00:39:45
ground you measured it flat you have00:39:46
measured it flat there is no curvature00:39:48
on Earth there is no curvature on Earth00:39:50
there is no curvature on Earth okay all00:39:53
right so if jiren measured it flat and00:39:56
there is no curve on Earth is the earth00:39:59
just going to ball up cuz you saw the00:40:01
sun do something so flat earthers are00:40:05
still going to be flat earthers until00:40:07
you measure the curve and how is that00:40:11
dishonest see what's going on is jiren00:40:14
really ain't got no beef with the Flat00:40:16
Earth Community but he got to create00:40:18
some beef because he's a double agent00:40:21
that's about to be activated and he's00:40:23
about to be making his rounds to throw00:40:25
this community under the bus after this00:40:28
experiment and in order for him to00:40:31
really sell us out and and to follow00:40:33
along with this he got to make beef this00:40:36
is the second phase of the final00:40:38
experiment to come back and now wage war00:40:44
from within and that's what he's doing00:40:46
see a lot of people don't know how00:40:48
agents00:40:49
work it says well you're about to hear00:40:53
it here first I am no longer a flat00:40:56
earther00:40:58
now if you want proof that Flat Earth is00:41:00
a dangerous cult Watch What Happens00:41:03
because I said those words think about00:41:05
it I'm saying this one seven-word00:41:08
sentence I no longer a flat earther and00:41:11
you're about to see people flip the E00:41:14
out now think about this y'all and he00:41:16
said they will call me names yeah think00:41:19
about this Jared I was raised in the00:41:22
Christian00:41:23
church and the moment I left the church00:41:26
and turned my back on the Bible guess00:41:29
what they call me zetic warrior they00:41:32
call me a00:41:35
backslider you think I'mma be mad at00:41:38
Christians for having names for people00:41:40
who don't stay with them if you join00:41:44
anything and you turn on that thing and00:41:47
that thing then turn on you first there00:41:50
are names that go along with it man even00:41:53
in the United States military if I join00:41:57
the military and all of a sudden I hop00:42:00
ship and now I'm over on the enemy side00:42:04
and I'm talking crap about America yeah00:42:07
they going to so many people going to00:42:09
say he a traitor he a turn coat it's one00:42:12
thing to say I no longer rock with00:42:15
America no more but to go stand with00:42:18
America's enemies and talk crap about00:42:20
America makes you a traitor00:42:23
sir it's okay to say I don't rock with00:42:26
America no more I don't think my country00:42:28
is all that people it's a lot of00:42:31
Americans that think that we can do00:42:33
better but to go with the Enemy and talk00:42:37
crap about America yes that goes what00:42:40
you think see jiren think he's so00:42:43
special he think he's so special man00:42:48
welcome to the world sir people have00:42:51
titles for people that do stuff that00:42:54
what you did it's okay if you're a00:42:57
Cowboys fan and you say I don't rock00:43:00
with the Cowboys no more and you go to00:43:02
the Packers and you go to talk and crap00:43:04
about the Cowboys what you think people00:43:07
in Dallas going to call you a he a00:43:09
traitor man he used to be with us now he00:43:12
with them but let's just say you're a00:43:15
Cowboys fan and you say I don't like the00:43:18
Cowboys no more and you just ain't00:43:20
nobody else fan you just don't take no00:43:23
sides after that you just say man forget00:43:25
about it now ain't no nobody in Dallas00:43:27
going to call you a traitor because you00:43:30
was a Cowboys fan and you don't really00:43:32
like them no more but if you was a00:43:34
Cowboys fan and now you with the Packers00:43:37
because that's they00:43:39
rival and now you talking crap about00:43:42
them then yeah Dallas people gonna say00:43:44
you're a traitor now and you can't be00:43:46
mad at them for that you00:43:49
know because I'm a Green Bay Packers Fan00:43:53
and the day that I become a Chicago00:43:55
Bears fan I know that all of my cheesee00:43:59
head people going to say a he's a00:44:01
traitor and I'm going be okay with00:44:04
that I trade it to the opponent's00:44:08
side00:44:10
so uh he you know people are calling00:44:13
them names and he's acting like a little00:44:16
boy like dude flat earthers get called00:44:20
more names than anybody welcome to life00:44:23
dude so he's saying that people are00:44:26
dangerous cult because they call you00:44:28
names but he's friends with the guy who00:44:31
coined the word Flur make that make00:44:35
sense he's friends with a bunch of guys00:44:39
who call us00:44:41
Flur and he's so00:44:43
mad that people calling him a00:44:47
traitor like that people calling him00:44:50
names if if the pastor of a church say00:44:54
he's no longer a Christian00:44:57
that's one thing but if he say no longer00:45:01
not not I'm not also you know I'm not a00:45:04
Christian but I'm a Satanist now and I00:45:07
don't even rock with Christ and he start00:45:09
blaspheming Christ yeah they G to say00:45:12
man he's a00:45:14
traitor00:45:17
so but jiren cares a lot about what00:45:20
people say too and I think that's why he00:45:23
don't want to be a flat earther no more00:45:25
because when he was lashing out on the00:45:27
Flat Earth Community it was all about00:45:30
how stupid we00:45:33
look and I you know it was just a bunch00:45:37
of Crybaby stuff you know hey salutes00:45:40
bro can you hear me good I can hear you00:45:42
good salute hey man salute bro welcome00:45:46
back glad to see you on these YouTube00:45:49
streets um I want to speak about the00:45:52
situation with the guy who um you know I00:45:55
think he been an agent from the from the00:45:57
beginning a lot of people don't00:45:59
understand the differences between um00:46:03
who's who in the Flat Earth Community00:46:05
you know we got the other Flat Earth00:46:07
Community people who came in with the00:46:09
whole Christian Movement thing that's a00:46:12
whole another different Society even00:46:14
though some of those people understand00:46:17
the way we understand it's a this a00:46:20
different type of Flat Earth you know00:46:22
this comes with the cosmology we believe00:46:24
it as As Above So Below so we can take00:46:27
the cosmology from the earth and we can00:46:30
actually start to understand things00:46:32
about00:46:33
ourselves if we looking that as above so00:46:36
below and other00:46:38
scientific U methods that we can put00:46:42
together we looking at the stars above00:46:45
and then observing those with things00:46:47
below or we can observe things below and00:46:50
correlate those with things above you00:46:52
understand what I'm00:46:54
saying rather than coming into this00:46:57
thing with a00:46:58
terminology of yo this is Flat Earth and00:47:01
I think that's become more of people00:47:03
represen flat earth like a football team00:47:06
instead of having an understanding to00:47:08
over understand with what this is all00:47:10
about and I think that's the difference00:47:13
and we should we shouldn't allow agents00:47:17
to be able to uh come into our community00:47:21
and00:47:22
separated with these uh put together00:47:27
tactics that they have because this is00:47:29
some agent stuff and we supposed to be00:47:31
able to recognize this if we claiming00:47:34
Flat Earth so this shouldn't be no um00:47:36
you know division or distraction amongst00:47:40
us but it is and man it's a teacher00:47:42
moment so I'm glad for you showing this00:47:44
man and this flat [ __ ] power00:47:46
salutes to y'all man much love and00:47:48
respect bro you already know I00:47:50
appreciate that love my brother you know00:47:53
it's love right back to you much respect00:47:55
to you and key I'mma have a round table00:47:58
in a minute with every caller on and you00:48:01
already know I'mma bring you right back00:48:03
in after I review these clips and [ __ ]00:48:07
salutes00:48:09
salute shout out to my brother Thug Rob00:48:12
thank you so much for the support my00:48:18
brother he said have a good day big bro00:48:22
appreciate that man people I saw a globe00:48:26
Earth in the chat room say jiren did00:48:29
experiments and prove that it's flat00:48:32
well and prove that it's not flat what00:48:35
about the experiments with that he did00:48:37
that prove that it is flat like I said00:48:40
you can't trust a person that keep00:48:43
proving both sides and that when the00:48:46
flat earthers are supporting and lacing00:48:48
his pockets he proving his flat and then00:48:51
when the globe birthers are Lac in his00:48:53
pockets he proven it's a globe00:48:57
it seemed like both sides ought to00:49:00
realize he just doing what the money say00:49:04
do my whole thing is you can show an00:49:08
experiment right now like the final00:49:10
experiment but that ain't really00:49:11
experiment that's a00:49:13
observation a couple of people went to00:49:16
Antarctic and saw the sun do something00:49:18
that they thought it was not going to00:49:21
do but I never saw the ground do what I00:49:25
didn't think it was going to do do the00:49:27
ground still Level you00:49:29
dummies when the ground stop doing what00:49:32
I think it's going to do which is stay00:49:34
flat then I I'll denounce Flat Earth00:49:38
I'll denounce Flat Earth when you make00:49:40
the ground do a cur uh you know when you00:49:44
when you measure a curve on the ground00:49:46
so you didn't measure a curve on the00:49:49
ground but we did see a 24-hour sun in00:49:52
Antarctica but the 24-hour sun isn't a00:49:55
measurement of the curve on the ground I00:49:57
don't know why y'all think it is that's00:50:01
very00:50:02
weird what's happening Bros how you00:50:05
feeling I'm feeling pretty good man good00:50:07
to hear from you you got00:50:10
the yeah n bro uh definitely been00:50:14
tapping in recently just seeing what you00:50:15
was on with the uh exposing the jism00:50:18
situation and [ __ ] like that cuz M you I00:50:20
had been away for a little minute so I00:50:22
ain't even know all that was going on00:50:23
and then once I seen you you know what00:50:26
I'm saying show what buddy ass been on00:50:28
I'm like hell no it's like another one G00:50:31
one of the [ __ ] you think solid00:50:33
[ __ ] then Cole came over here00:50:34
and told us one thing then went back00:50:37
totally in the reverse fashion and it's00:50:39
crazy to do that cuz it's like I00:50:42
wouldn't even have a issue with that if00:50:43
these was all your same arguments before00:50:45
you became a flat earther but it wasn't00:50:48
like you can't just flipflop SIDS and00:50:50
[ __ ] like that like [ __ ] can't00:50:52
be like oh I see this as a lie wait n00:50:55
know I don't I don't see it's not a lie00:50:57
it's like that's a lie it's like all00:50:59
right now your ass just00:51:00
disingenuine and it's like you're not00:51:02
credible at that point like at this00:51:04
point this [ __ ] credibility is killed00:51:07
you can't believe what [ __ ] he00:51:11
saying no profanity but you good I'm00:51:14
sorry yeah my00:51:16
bad yeah know you00:51:18
can't like basically it's and and it got00:51:22
to be Integrity in you in the words and00:51:24
what you saying and people can feel BS00:51:27
when they hear it it's like if it don't00:51:29
come from the soul it ain't hard felt00:51:32
and it's like we knew we knew you was00:51:34
telling the truth when you came to us00:51:36
with the I know the Earth is flat stuff00:51:39
based on how you was attacking the00:51:41
people that was claiming it to be a00:51:43
globe you went on many debates and all00:51:45
that other kind of stuff proving this a00:51:47
flat now all of a sudden all those00:51:49
debates that you won was in vain huh00:51:51
really the other people that you was00:51:53
going against one is what you00:51:55
saying mhm00:51:57
you know it's like all Jaren been a flat00:52:01
earther for dog on near a decade and in00:52:04
this decade he's done extensive00:52:07
groundwork research to show that it's00:52:10
flat and he telling me00:52:13
one experiment know I can't keep calling00:52:16
it an experiment he telling me one00:52:20
observation now click the light bub on00:52:23
in his head where he's like oh it is is00:52:26
a big old ball so after all these years00:52:31
you now making the same Globe birth00:52:33
argument that you was ripping apart you00:52:36
was tearing it up debunking it now it we00:52:40
measure things flat but it's a big ball00:52:44
you just can't see the00:52:46
curve that's the argument he making now00:52:49
that yeah of course we're going to make00:52:51
everything's going to be flat I've done00:52:53
these experiments and guess what he said00:52:55
out of his own mouth measured it flat00:52:57
you measured it flat you measured flat00:53:00
he measured it flat right so he measured00:53:03
it flat but he saying it's still a big00:53:07
ball and because it's so big you're00:53:10
going to measure it flat everywhere now00:53:12
think about this y'all when we measure00:53:15
something flat do we go with the00:53:18
measurements or with what we believe or00:53:20
whatever speculate when what's the00:53:23
purpose of measuring it flat for me to00:53:25
measure something00:53:27
and say well it could be a big ball we00:53:29
don't make measurements and takee00:53:32
measures to do what could be the as men00:53:37
that's the reason we got tape measurers00:53:39
so what we don't got to what could be if00:53:42
somebody come to me and say man this00:53:45
pool table could be off balance give me00:53:48
my level son I ain't F to do no could be00:53:51
with you I can measure this thing right00:53:53
now and tell you if it's flat and if00:53:55
it's balanced ain't going to do know00:53:57
what could bees as a man with tools that00:54:01
ain't what if these guys that's building00:54:03
your buildings did what could be but00:54:06
they got the tools to measure it right00:54:09
but what if you don't what if when you00:54:11
can measure something flat00:54:14
so he's go he's getting R now truth is00:54:18
that which can be proven that which can00:54:20
be measured once you measure something00:54:23
and get the proof which is okay it00:54:25
measured flat how do you get rid of the00:54:28
truth with a belief well it could be a00:54:31
big ball that's just appearing to be00:54:34
flat which is what he's saying right now00:54:36
so forget what the facts is let's go00:54:39
with the what could bees and y'all think00:54:42
that's science and y'all think that the00:54:44
wet could bees and the observation in00:54:47
the sky is going to change the flat the00:54:50
flat facts on the00:54:51
ground and that's what the whole final00:54:54
experiment was about it's because00:54:57
they're scared of the flat verse Globe00:54:59
Earth debate they know they can't prove00:55:02
span or curvature so now they want to go00:55:05
skygaze and Su00:55:08
gaze they're hoping that the debate will00:55:11
stop you know who losing because the00:55:14
flat earther still want to debate we00:55:17
still want to debate the shape of the00:55:19
earth and the ground arguments but the00:55:21
glob birs are saying man it's over you00:55:24
guys are lost give up the Griff leave it00:55:26
alone alone that's a cop00:55:28
out if you can't prove the curvature00:55:31
just say you can't we ain't going to go00:55:33
away we're going to keep asking for the00:55:35
curvature we don't care what the sun did00:55:38
I care what the ground doing I'm not a00:55:41
24 Sun earther I'm a flat earther show00:55:45
me the Earth being a curve and I'll be a00:55:49
glober so right it it it's that simple00:55:54
so with that being said you know and00:55:56
that's what they doing they're00:55:58
running and they was running ever since00:56:01
the Chicago skyline was brought up years00:56:03
ago they had to go on the news and say00:56:06
that this whole city of Chicago was a00:56:09
projection it was holographic00:56:13
Roba right Rob ska got on a boat and00:56:17
sailed to it so guess what I'mma do I'm00:56:20
I'mma actually replay Rob ska's trip we00:56:22
going to talk about the Chicago skyline00:56:26
I'm going to have a stream with nothing00:56:28
but Chicago people I know you going you00:56:30
got to holl at me with that one Quinton00:56:33
because hell yeah got you people got to00:56:36
really if you from Chicago and you're a00:56:38
flat earther you got to be insulted cuz00:56:42
somebody really think you a fool listen00:56:45
to me my00:56:46
Chicagoans and you a flat earther from00:56:49
Chicago the glob birthers are saying00:56:52
that when my Chicago and brothers go to00:56:55
Lake Michigan00:56:56
when they see beautiful shot town across00:56:59
the lake that ain't the real00:57:02
City y'all can't let them play with you00:57:04
like that if you from that Great Lakes00:57:07
area and that whole area because they00:57:10
telling you you a00:57:11
fool you don't really see Chicago00:57:15
skyline you see and that's the stuff00:57:18
that we got to deal with now think about00:57:20
this it is cheaper for us to book a trip00:57:23
to Lake Michigan and see if that Chicago00:57:27
is refraction if we're going to sail00:57:29
right through it it's cheaper to do that00:57:32
than to go to00:57:35
Antarctica now every every Global keep00:57:38
saying you flat ears can go to anarctica00:57:41
guess what Global globalist you can too00:57:46
and guess what the globalist don't00:57:48
realize if they didn't go to Antarctica00:57:51
they self they just believe in somebody00:57:54
that said they did just cuz it's they00:57:56
model so when they tell a flat earther00:58:00
they can go to Antarctica you can too or00:58:03
you ain't proving nothing yourself00:58:05
especially if you're a Christian prove00:58:07
all things so check this00:58:10
out we can go to Chicago and to Lake00:58:14
Michigan so when the news reporter said00:58:17
that the city of Chicago was just00:58:20
refraction why did y'all globber do00:58:22
believe him instead of go prove it cuz00:58:25
the flatter when and proved it think00:58:27
about this y'all if I was a globe00:58:30
birther and I believe that the Chicago00:58:33
skyline is just refraction I would go to00:58:37
it before I let a flat earther do it and00:58:39
prove that the flat earther is stupid I00:58:42
would get in the boat and I would sail00:58:44
right through it I'll say look you dumb00:58:46
flat earthers this ain't real it's just00:58:49
refraction aha debunk but the fact that00:58:53
all these globalists00:58:56
believe that the Chicago skyline is00:58:59
refraction and they debating flat00:59:01
earthers and they're saying it is00:59:03
refraction but they live right there and00:59:06
won't get in the boat and go see now the00:59:08
flat earthers got in a boat and found00:59:10
out it ain't00:59:12
refraction and they still saying it is00:59:15
even though no Globe birther will get in00:59:17
a boat in Lake Michigan and prove it for00:59:20
themselves the only people that got in a00:59:23
boat to debunk the Chicago marage claim00:59:26
with flat earthers and we prove that the00:59:29
news reporter was lying like they always00:59:33
doing so a globalist can say well a00:59:37
Chicago skyline is a mirage well you00:59:40
can't prove it flat Earth is proved it00:59:42
we did a real experiment not a00:59:48
observation so a globalist can say well00:59:52
it is refraction but if you didn't go00:59:54
out there and get on the lake you can00:59:56
shut00:59:57
up and so when a flat Earth is say well01:00:00
that sun was fake in Antarctica and a01:00:03
globalist say well you didn't go to01:00:04
Antarctica so shut up till you01:00:07
go and think about that if a globalist01:00:11
telling me when I say that the sun is01:00:14
fake right the globalist is saying you01:00:17
didn't go to Antarctica so shut your01:00:20
mouth but think about this the globalist01:00:23
should be saying the same thing if I say01:00:25
it's real too if I say the 24-hour sun01:00:30
in Antarctica is real guess what the01:00:33
globalist should be saying how you know01:00:35
is real you didn't go shut your mouth01:00:38
why you going to do me like that when I01:00:40
say it's fake it got to be both ways if01:00:44
you so concerned about a person proving01:00:46
something for themselves you should be01:00:49
still concerned even when they say it's01:00:51
fake or is real right or wrong see what01:00:54
I'm saying so01:00:58
yes sir yes sir hey I'm I'm I'm I'm01:01:02
great bro man I've been listening to you01:01:04
for a long time following you on YouTube01:01:07
Follow Rob skeba follow all that stuff01:01:10
man and and the way I see it the way it01:01:11
break downs breaks down for me man is we01:01:15
we live on a flat plane of existence and01:01:17
then we have a toroidal field or call it01:01:20
a firmament call whatever you want to01:01:23
that can spin and rotate and and reveal01:01:26
the consolations and all those things01:01:28
and and be viewed as what it wants to01:01:31
from a globe from an outside perspective01:01:34
why can't they both coexist you know01:01:37
because because and if you go back and01:01:40
that's the thing about Rob skba and and01:01:43
guys like him who come from a from a01:01:45
Biblical Christian Perspective like01:01:47
there's truth in in in in the Bible but01:01:51
it's been it's been construed in and and01:01:55
adult alterated to serve certain01:01:57
purposes but the truth is there and it01:01:59
still remains and you can't have it's01:02:02
like the squared Circle you know you can01:02:04
have the four corners of the Earth where01:02:06
the winds blow and the angels that guard01:02:09
those things but you can still have the01:02:11
plane and the toroidal so I don't01:02:13
understand how it's got to be one or the01:02:15
other to me it makes perfect sense that01:02:18
it's it's01:02:20
both and I that's kind of my persp I'm01:02:23
gonna let you have your perspective um01:02:26
I'm not really in a combative move you01:02:29
know we both know the Earth is flat and01:02:31
so that's the only thing moving forward01:02:34
that I care about with with you know01:02:36
because to me E I saw flat ears getting01:02:40
into too many side the baits other than01:02:43
the shape of the earth and people think01:02:46
that stuff really matter to us when01:02:48
really that's just a bunch of flat01:02:49
Earths having a pissing contest we all01:02:52
know it's flat and they would blow that01:02:54
up though like it Prov move something01:02:56
when that's just extracurricular stuff01:02:59
if you will but I do want to give a big01:03:02
shout out to your sweet place for that01:03:05
$50 donation appreciate the love my01:03:09
sister01:03:12
appreciate right bro well it was nice01:03:14
talking to you man it's it's good01:03:17
talking to you man I follow you a lot01:03:19
and and take care and keep on doing what01:03:21
you're doing man it's it's good stuff01:03:23
thank you so much for calling in and if01:03:26
you in a waiting room be patient we01:03:28
going to get to everybody let's go to01:03:30
cap Kappa01:03:36
Vine I got a lot of edited videos or01:03:40
documentaries that's going to be01:03:42
uploaded along with live stream content01:03:45
I got other channels that you guys can01:03:47
follow me on sit down with Sanchez live01:03:51
podcast we got flat power TV Golden01:03:55
Wings me01:03:56
and beats by01:03:58
Sanchez all of those channels you should01:04:01
follow me on them because I will be01:04:03
going live on those I had to take a01:04:06
minute to get my my uh monetization01:04:09
status back right and to uh tweak my01:04:13
setup and get a little bit more you know01:04:17
upgraded so I will be doing that for all01:04:20
of my channels sifting through content01:04:22
making sure you know everything right01:04:25
and then I'm going keep going on with01:04:27
good content hit the like and share on01:04:29
your way in we do got a go to01:04:33
meet if we can get 14 more orange super01:04:38
chats we will be extending the show for01:04:41
an extra01:04:42
hour right now we got one out of 15 we01:04:46
really got more than that but the goal01:04:49
um joint started late so appreciate01:04:53
y'all everyone who sent in super chats01:04:56
um let's go ahead and bring in Ka ofine01:05:00
how you01:05:02
doing okayy what's up01:05:04
bro I'm good appreciate you can you hear01:05:07
me yeah I can hear you go01:05:09
ahead um the whole Flat Earth debate um01:05:14
has been sidetracked by agents as you01:05:17
said um I believe that Jaren if he just01:05:20
just takes a lie detector test and just01:05:23
gets the lie detector test out there to01:05:25
say he's not lying then you have more01:05:27
credibility but the fact we have to01:05:29
actually um mention him taking a l01:05:33
detector test shows that he is an agent01:05:36
and he I guarantee he wouldn't do it um01:05:39
it'll be thrown out lies all around the01:05:42
liex test but um in terms of um jiren01:05:47
this this is about jiren in particular01:05:49
isn't it just about this topic is about01:05:51
jiren in particular this whole live I01:05:54
take it because I left a comment on your01:05:57
previous post on YouTube about um how01:06:00
there's actually been a misdirection of01:06:03
the whole Flat Earth movement in terms01:06:05
of what we actually what we're actually01:06:07
residing01:06:09
on the plat Earth and I said I mentioned01:06:12
that you should get someone called Dell01:06:14
theond imaginary curve and01:06:16
flatheadedgorilla01:06:25
who actually reside under the01:06:28
in yeah01:06:31
so I think that the Flat Earth Community01:06:34
was getting too deep and I ain't trying01:06:36
to be so01:06:37
egotistical but once you start talking01:06:40
about what happens when you die the AP01:06:43
the life the ethers the01:06:45
firmament now we start getting shut down01:06:49
see when it was just flat vers when it01:06:51
was just flat verse Globe birth they was01:06:54
cool with that was on the flat earth01:06:57
side boom boom boom I believe he was01:06:59
just there to keep this [ __ ] at one01:07:02
level which is flat verse globe and not01:07:05
getting into free energy and then once01:07:08
you start talking about the firmament D01:07:10
you stepping on the papacy toes you01:07:12
stepping on the church toes now you step01:07:15
the whole thing about NASA and the01:07:19
Vatican is01:07:21
that01:07:22
um they both teaching that you can lead01:07:26
the01:07:27
earth and the Bible said that you can01:07:30
only get out of this place by mastering01:07:33
yourself and G Christ Consciousness so01:07:37
ain't no way off the Earth you trapped01:07:40
if you want to get out of this world the01:07:42
world got to get out of you the only way01:07:45
out the world is to get the world out of01:07:47
you and that's the rule that the01:07:49
ancestors said that the only way off the01:07:52
Earth is good deeds and righteousness01:07:55
but see what happened was NASA came01:07:57
along and said well no you can get off01:07:59
of the Earth with the good with01:08:01
technology and all this stuff so that01:08:04
that's why they got the serpent symbol01:08:06
because it's a direct opposition it's01:08:09
deeper than the Flat Earth it's about01:08:11
the firmament Dome and getting off of01:08:13
the Earth the old spiritual systems was01:08:16
all about how to meditate get your01:08:19
energy right to so you can get off of01:08:21
the Earth but if you look at the church01:08:24
they going with the new world order the01:08:26
papacy they out of line no control and01:08:30
just like the Bible say they on their01:08:32
way to Hell great Apostles I don't know01:08:34
if you saw okay that's good to take on I01:08:37
don't know saw the speech by um01:08:40
Netanyahu he mentioned something about01:08:43
anti um Israel flatter Earth Society in01:08:46
a speech I feel like there's going to be01:08:48
a loaded Flat Earth is going to be a01:08:50
load of term for like where it could be01:08:53
um equal to uh terrorism or or um01:08:58
someone who's um anti-establishment so01:09:00
to speak I feel like it's going to be01:09:02
quite dangerous be label the Flat Earth01:09:04
because of the way um it's been it's01:09:06
been um mentioned in this01:09:08
um Al jazer Netanyahu mentioned it01:09:11
something about attacks actually says01:09:13
attacks on un as anti-israel Flat Earth01:09:16
Society I don't know why he mentioned it01:09:17
it was just so Random why he I saw that01:09:20
I saw that I feel like I feel like it's01:09:22
gonna be quite dangerous being a flat01:09:23
earth now because that's the way the01:09:24
mainstream want to want to you know want01:09:26
that um to to to go um it's well listen01:09:30
yeah let me just interject if you don't01:09:33
mind netan haou is a01:09:37
Zionist yeah and the Zionist agenda01:09:40
can't be promoted without NASA and the01:09:43
globe01:09:44
model because their excuse for why we're01:09:48
going around the world to colonize01:09:51
people is so that we can advance01:09:54
everybody it's basically so that we can01:09:58
our what they not telling you is01:10:02
that we're not trying to go to space we01:10:05
trying to go to World War01:10:08
III and that's the whole agenda and they01:10:11
saying well we got to go over here to01:10:14
this country to that country you know01:10:17
and they got resources we may need boom01:10:20
boom boom this is what's holding us back01:10:22
from being a space age and from going to01:10:25
space01:10:26
and then before we can go to space01:10:28
you're going to find out we got to go to01:10:31
war yeah that's necessary and we never01:10:34
going to get to space because after the01:10:36
that war going to be a great01:10:38
reset and the next generation are be01:10:42
forgetting about the promise of space01:10:44
and all that but space is just them01:10:46
expanding their territory and getting01:10:48
more land that's what they mean by space01:10:51
yeah space is the ocean they ad that01:10:54
noted it is the ocean um yeah fair play01:10:58
all right my bro um that's L I wanted to01:11:00
touch on but like I said it would be01:11:02
nice to have I keep mentioning it they01:11:04
beond the imaginary curve and01:11:06
levelheaded William on on a show like01:11:08
this because they have a lot to touch on01:11:10
about what we actually listen do me a01:11:13
favor yeah tell them I want them on01:11:17
whenever they got time email me and01:11:20
let's set set it up I've I've had shows01:11:23
with everybody man and that's I'm down01:11:26
I'm down with it man I love01:11:29
collaborations yeah thank you bro01:11:32
Sanchez I would also confirm that they01:11:34
would be really good guests topics that01:11:37
they discuss are01:11:39
uh pretty interesting and you know01:11:42
definitely something that should be01:11:44
talked about more in this community and01:11:46
something that has been suppressed by01:11:49
the Flat Earth Gatekeepers01:11:51
consistently wow thank you for saying01:11:54
that let me give a big shout out to Nai01:11:57
ke I see your super chat I ain't going01:11:59
to miss nobody thank01:12:04
y'all nak cheetah said Jared and wit are01:12:10
one second Naki cheetah said jiren and01:12:13
wit are traitors to Flat Earth and01:12:15
should be exposed as agents Against01:12:18
Humanity the fire is rising higher and01:12:21
higher I second01:12:23
that go ahead go ahead who who you01:12:26
wanted to say one more thing Capon and01:12:28
Capon I'm going to get more callers but01:12:30
stick around for the round table go01:12:32
ahead you got something else more n01:12:34
thank you bro naita is also a very good01:12:36
um talking point I like Nikita's01:12:40
uploads naita I'mma go and subscribe to01:12:43
you he's top01:12:46
quality top I appreciate all you know01:12:49
what this going to sound crazy but I'm01:12:52
kind of it it ain't all bad with this F01:12:55
experiment because you know I'm meeting01:12:57
a lot of real ones that I didn't know01:13:01
behind this it's basically ganizing the01:13:03
real from the fake you know that's01:13:06
actually needed01:13:09
so but but the the whole thing is I'm01:13:12
I'mma go ahead and bring in some more01:13:14
people real quick um if you want me to01:13:17
drop the link drop a one and we going to01:13:21
Hayden Hayden thank you for joining us01:13:25
we're gonna let pton01:13:27
join Hey Brother Sanchez how you doing01:13:30
bro I'm doing good people um we we're01:13:33
trying to get a goal met you can see the01:13:36
goal in the top of the chat room and01:13:39
we're going to keep the show going for01:13:41
another hour with me taking calls and I01:13:44
got some video clips of Jaren to review01:13:47
and to respond and react to pton take01:13:50
the floor thank you for joining thanks01:13:52
for having me on I little bit nervous to01:13:54
tell the truth Tru um thought about01:13:56
calling through for a while I was in the01:13:58
military many years ago and I was posted01:14:00
ter in tactica in 2001 to 2002 the01:14:03
summer and I actually witnessed the sun01:14:05
of how they show it in their footage so01:14:09
I I thought I lived on a ball spinning01:14:11
through space you know back then so I01:14:13
just didn't think anything of it and01:14:14
never thought to really observe it fully01:14:17
but um and in the later years I come to01:14:21
to realize things are not as they seem01:14:24
and um all is is is quite deception but01:14:28
um whether we're trying to figure out01:14:30
the01:14:31
physicalness of it or not um by by01:14:36
various01:14:37
methods it's kind of uh it gets very01:14:40
conf confusing and paradoxical because a01:14:43
lot of it is from the mind and the01:14:45
perceptions that we all have of our01:14:49
surroundings and our01:14:50
upbringings um like I I asked the01:14:52
question to jiren the other week when he01:14:54
was on his live I said um why don't you01:14:57
get people to triangulate the Sun from01:15:00
you know while you were down there all01:15:02
and he said oh you can't triangulate the01:15:05
sun when you're on a globe so I'm01:15:07
thinking well you know every single01:15:09
individual human with a standing they01:15:11
have a a location a set location of01:15:14
where they are right so all you need to01:15:16
do is have a SE the sea level and the01:15:18
angle pointing directly to the Sun so01:15:20
what's that angle and the direction that01:15:22
you're facing right from that specific01:15:25
position and you got another person in01:15:27
another specific position they're01:15:29
they're triangulating right you get a01:15:30
few of those and then where where those01:15:33
points meet that's where the the sun01:15:35
should appear in the sky well I I I um01:15:39
estimate or hypothesize that that would01:15:40
be the same as trying to find the01:15:41
location of a rainbow in the sky right01:15:44
if if someone's looking at a rainbow01:15:46
from one side of the harbor and then01:15:48
they go to the other side of the harbor01:15:50
it's not going to appear in exactly the01:15:51
same location in the right vicinity it01:15:54
might but then um when we see hot spots01:15:58
and clouds from the sun right the01:16:00
sunlight is um lighting up a specific01:16:04
area of clouds and we're like oh look01:16:06
there's a hot spot on the on the clouds01:16:08
there where we're looking between us and01:16:10
the Sun but if we were to go 3/4 of a01:16:12
mile across to another Direction and01:16:14
look at the Sun Well a different01:16:17
particular cloud is going to have that01:16:18
hot spot and so it's it's like well that01:16:22
cloud when we see it from a different01:16:23
position doesn't have that hot spot so a01:16:25
lot of it is paradoxical in the mind and01:16:28
not necessarily uh let's say physical I01:16:31
like what your your guest uh Lindsay01:16:33
Harris had to say about it all the other01:16:36
week and um Vibes of Cosmos and and01:16:39
Jason brashers of love a combination of01:16:42
all of the above um yeah there's some01:16:46
interesting fascinating things that I01:16:48
experienced in my life that I probably01:16:50
won't go into too much cuz I've recently01:16:52
lost everything and uh it's it's a01:16:55
little interesting this paradoxical01:16:56
existence and that's all I have to say01:16:58
thanks brother I i' like to speak on01:17:01
that MH yeah so regarding his first01:17:05
statement about the uh Antarctic sun and01:17:09
matching the current observations uh01:17:11
that they're01:17:12
reporting interestingly enough the the01:17:15
Flat Earth Community known as01:17:17
ztics 120 years ago01:17:21
sorry the Flat Earth community over 12001:17:25
years ago recognized the 24-hour01:17:28
Antarctic Sun it was being reported to01:17:30
them via a British Expedition from01:17:34
1898 in which the Midnight Sun was01:17:37
apparently observed in the astral summer01:17:39
so this topic of the 24-hour Antarctic01:17:43
sun is not new to the Flat Earth01:17:44
Community by any means right this was01:17:47
addressed over 120 years ago now01:17:51
interestingly enough that information I01:17:53
believe was was suppressed by these uh01:17:57
Flat Earth leaders so-called leaders and01:18:01
um only Now is really coming to light01:18:04
even though it's mentioned in one of the01:18:05
prominent zetic books from 1902 called01:18:09
zetic astronomy by Albert Smith and lady01:18:13
blout so this 24-hour antartic sun is01:18:16
not new yet jiren will have us believe01:18:19
that we never were presented with this01:18:22
information and that if we had been we01:18:25
should have never become flat earthers01:18:26
in the first place and that's the first01:18:28
point the second thing I wanted to01:18:30
address is the idea of the optical sky01:18:35
and that as uh the caller stated the Sun01:18:38
or any of the celestial bodies Cann not01:18:41
be triangulated whether it's a globe or01:18:45
any common conception of a flat Earth01:18:47
Map this has been recognized and01:18:50
admitted to by Popular Science that's01:18:53
why we have something called the mean01:18:55
Sun okay and this is known by science01:18:59
that we the sun is what's called a mean01:19:01
sun and we use civil time and anybody01:19:04
could look this up if you research what01:19:06
civil time is this is something that01:19:08
needed to be imposed to track time01:19:11
because the sun cannot be triangulated01:19:14
whether it's a globe or any conception01:19:16
of Flat Earth so it begs the question01:19:19
what are the heavens what are the01:19:20
celestial bodies these are questions01:19:23
that have perplex mankind for all01:19:26
recorded history to think that any one01:19:29
of us in these times would be able to01:19:32
answer these questions so01:19:34
simplistically is not01:19:36
logical this is the problem with jiren01:19:39
and his fallacy in the way that he01:19:41
thinks and reasons because he has set up01:19:45
this final experiment as what he has01:19:48
dubbed a mutually exclusive observation01:19:51
that he feels will either prove the glob01:19:54
or the Flat Earth but again this is01:19:57
completely fallacious the Optics of the01:20:00
sky cannot be01:20:02
substantiated the evidence cannot be01:20:04
proven we can only observe the sky and01:20:07
we can conjecture and theorize on its01:20:11
operation anything other than that must01:20:14
be basically relegated to the ground and01:20:18
the physical world that we can measure01:20:21
the physical world that we can test and01:20:23
the physical world that we can repeat01:20:25
and in reality the globe is01:20:28
impossible so for jiren to give equal01:20:32
Credence to the globe arguments as the01:20:34
Flat Earth enough to pose this as a01:20:36
mutually exclusive observation is01:20:39
completely wrong and again facius the01:20:42
globe is simply impossible based on01:20:45
applied physics and practical01:20:48
demonstration to merely flip to the01:20:51
globe as he has done based off this01:20:53
observation is is simply an appeal to01:20:57
consensus that's all it is it's an it's01:21:00
a logical fallacy based on no01:21:05
evidence when we measure the sun it's01:21:08
two angle measurements first of all you01:21:10
have the Asam monal uh angle which would01:21:13
basically be a 360 degree uh scale okay01:21:19
based on the horizontal plane that's01:21:21
easy to understand then there's the01:21:23
elevation angle which would go from 0 to01:21:26
90 as long as you know where North is01:21:30
based on those two angles right you can01:21:32
apply those to whatever map you choose01:21:35
to try to triangulate the sun now here's01:21:39
something that was presented to jiren01:21:41
and the rest of the Flat Earth01:21:42
Gatekeepers in01:21:44
2017 that if you look at the uh the sun01:21:49
angle measurements on the Equinox okay01:21:53
you will find very quickly that it01:21:55
debunks their simplistic circling Sun01:21:59
model over the AE map that they have01:22:01
been promoting for years you can also01:22:03
look at the southern Sun observations on01:22:08
the south Solstice and you will find01:22:11
very quickly that their simplistic model01:22:14
promoted on David Weiss's app and by The01:22:17
prominent Flat Earth Gatekeepers is01:22:19
completely debunked yep the sky cannot01:22:23
the celesti Ste bodies cannot be01:22:26
triangulated and any attempt to do so01:22:28
will debunk any model that has come01:22:30
across including the globe01:22:32
model yeah and and just to give an01:22:36
example guys this is how a bunch of01:22:39
people would look at the sun let's say01:22:42
each one of these people is on a01:22:45
different part in a different part of01:22:47
the world where it's01:22:49
daylight and they all looking up at the01:22:51
sun we would think that this is what's01:22:55
going on right here but I think01:22:58
according to what I'm learning now and I01:23:00
may you can correct me it's more so this01:23:03
is what's going01:23:08
on it's almost if it's everyone is01:23:11
projecting their own Sun I know that01:23:13
sound crazy but if you got a hundred01:23:17
people looking at the sun you would01:23:18
think all of their line of sight would01:23:20
triangulate to the Sun every person but01:23:24
every body's lying of sight going01:23:26
different ways and that's kind of weird01:23:29
do I have this right is this what's01:23:31
going on with the sun in our01:23:34
reality yeah basically that's exactly it01:23:37
yeah okay this the sun cannot be01:23:40
triangulated by any known map and um01:23:45
that's again now this has been brought01:23:48
up to jiren for many years and not only01:23:52
did he ignore this information but he01:23:54
viciously attacked those promoting this01:23:58
information okay and you know why01:24:00
because I'mma not to cut you off but01:24:03
when you start thinking about this sun01:24:05
thing it really opens you up to a whole01:24:08
another Paradigm that's deeper than Flat01:24:10
Earth and now it makes me now want to01:24:12
study the sky more and I think once we01:24:15
start doing that that's when we find our01:24:18
way out of here on some Enoch type stuff01:24:20
and that's really what they trying to01:24:22
stop01:24:24
yeah but maybe I'm just you know getting01:24:26
ahead of myself but go ahead I didn't01:24:28
mean to cut you01:24:30
off well see the issue I have with jiren01:24:35
is that although he claimed to be a flat01:24:38
earther a decade ago he never really let01:24:42
go and abandoned his secular mindset a01:24:46
mindset that looks at the world through01:24:48
the lens of the pseudoscientific world01:24:52
that we're indoctrinated with he sees a01:24:55
world of01:24:56
particles he sees a world that lacks the01:25:00
mystical the spiritual conscious this to01:25:04
me has been jiren's problem from the01:25:07
beginning so of course somebody with01:25:10
that type of mindset would fall prey to01:25:14
again the faulty reasoning that he is01:25:18
displaying because when we look at the01:25:21
heavens with an eye of the mystical01:25:24
we find that it goes beyond mere men and01:25:30
women we cannot conjecture and01:25:33
understand something that was made for01:25:35
and by the gods the Bible says this01:25:39
consistently throughout many books01:25:42
especially the Old Testament the throne01:25:45
room of the Creator is said to be in the01:25:48
heavens it was the luciferian dream the01:25:52
luciferian goal to usurp the Creator in01:25:56
the heavens and to become as Gods we01:26:00
find this message01:26:02
consistently throughout the Bible and01:26:04
other religious texts that we can point01:26:07
to the heavens seem to be something01:26:09
special something beyond the physical01:26:12
world something beyond what we con can01:26:16
conjecture beyond what we can01:26:19
theorize this is the Folly of the Modern01:26:21
Age this is the New World Order01:26:24
agenda and this is what we're seeing in01:26:27
this Flat Earth Community we're seeing01:26:30
um a group of people steering us back01:26:33
towards a01:26:35
mindset of control tyranny and01:26:38
domination because once man is convinced01:26:42
that he can Define the heavens and01:26:44
Define the01:26:46
cosmos then there's no longer any room01:26:50
for God creator or Source once Humanity01:26:53
has lost a concept of01:26:56
God then Humanity loses all conception01:27:00
of morals values integrity and01:27:03
principle this is the luciferian agenda01:27:06
this is the New World Order agenda and01:27:09
again this is what we're seeing01:27:10
perpetrated in our01:27:13
community I totally01:27:18
agree I totally agree with that let me01:27:21
let me see if um we can get anybody else01:27:23
in and Hayden we going to get you w in a01:27:26
few minutes for the round01:27:29
table um good stream everybody hit the01:27:33
like and share button at this time we01:27:36
got to bring on GL a glow berther by the01:27:41
name of Rob01:27:43
notes and uh yeah I just I'm just don't01:27:46
want to be trolled today man I just01:27:48
don't want no crazy01:27:50
energy uh Rob can I ask you a question01:27:55
welcome to the show first of all how you01:27:57
doing salutes bro Sanchez you got with01:28:02
me you you good you gotta have your01:28:04
camera on if you can oh yeah you know01:28:08
what I do01:28:09
okay and um um is it okay is it immoral01:28:16
Rob to lie and01:28:17
deceive oh thank you for asking me that01:28:20
question man you are the man let me get01:28:21
this off let me say this if I if a01:28:24
lady's running down the street screaming01:28:26
help me help me help me someone's going01:28:28
to kill me and you let her in the house01:28:30
and then a couple seconds later a man is01:28:32
running behind her says have you seen a01:28:34
lady I'm gonna kill her would you tell01:28:37
that man she's in your01:28:39
house uh say bro she's in here I'm01:28:42
protecting her and I dare you to breach01:28:44
my do step see I'm let me just answer01:28:47
you I'm a bad boy Rob I'mma always try01:28:50
to act tough I'mma always run my mouth01:28:53
I'mma always01:28:54
so but but I'll say this though rob you01:28:57
get my point hold hold on let me let me01:28:59
let me answer you my point is if we got01:29:02
to make a life or death situation to01:29:05
make lying and deception immoral that's01:29:08
desperate to me because well what it's01:29:12
trying to do is open up the doors for01:29:15
lying and deception and and I think it's01:29:18
common sense that if a if you're going01:29:20
to lie to save your life then yes but a01:29:24
but a pastor that's teaching that he's01:29:27
really trying to open up the door for01:29:28
lineing and deception all together01:29:31
because hold up let me finish every01:29:34
human ain't in a life of death situation01:29:36
a prison of War situation every day so01:29:40
what's the point the point is it's too01:29:42
much lying and deception in the world01:29:45
for a pastor to be teaching that is not01:29:47
immoral so the thing is he should have01:29:50
said it's not immoral if you're in C01:29:54
situations that to save your life but01:29:57
I'll even say this hold on if listen I'm01:30:01
about the land man so Jesus right Jesus01:30:05
never lied one day in his life and he01:30:08
could have lied to save his life but he01:30:10
didn't so if we want to be like Christ01:30:13
we wouldn't even lie to save our life if01:30:16
you want me to be honest with you but go01:30:18
ahead so the bottom line is this you're01:30:21
taking a clip of his supposedly ser if01:30:24
you go back and watch the entire thing01:30:26
of it which he recommends people do and01:30:27
you can see exactly what he was talking01:30:29
about he's talking about the exact01:30:30
situations he was not talking about or01:30:32
justifying lying under the eyes of God01:30:35
he was saying in situations in life01:30:37
there is times where a lie would not be01:30:39
immoral and show me some show them to me01:30:41
when you're when you're show you01:30:45
what listen give me some demonstrations01:30:48
and examples when lying and deception is01:30:51
is okay but don't make it no life or01:30:53
death situations like that's a cop out01:30:55
right there well no it's not a cop out01:30:57
that's an EXA that's an example of if01:30:59
that's the if the only one listen if the01:31:02
only example only one only give me one01:31:05
outside of some life or death stuff cuz01:31:07
to me that's like a cop out perfect okay01:31:10
so this is no death no one's dying in01:31:12
this okay uh there there there's a kid01:31:15
in the street he comes up to you and01:31:16
says hey this guy's following me he's01:31:18
trying to take me and you put the kid01:31:20
that's a life of death situation though01:31:22
well no that no no I didn't say he's01:31:24
going to kill him he just say he's going01:31:26
to kidnap him well okay how about this01:31:27
you don't like that one I got a whole01:31:28
bunch of what about the drug dealer who01:31:31
says Hey I want to sell this guy some01:31:32
drugs have you seen him all day he01:31:33
called me earlier and you know your01:31:35
friend could possibly die from that and01:31:37
you say no I haven't seen him when he's01:31:39
actually in the house and you just told01:31:40
the guy you didn't see him he left01:31:42
that's I'm saying you're you're trying01:31:43
to play a game here and the game The Jig01:31:45
Is up we know what's going on and01:31:46
anybody in their right mind knows that01:31:48
sometimes lying is not only I I I don't01:31:50
I don't I don't get the drug Dylan I01:31:53
don't get01:31:54
you don't get any of them because you're01:31:56
just hold on hold on bro hold on bro01:31:58
hold on bro I don't I think it's01:32:01
grifting when you got a pastor out there01:32:04
teaching people lying and deception is01:32:06
okay it don't get no bigger of a grift01:32:08
than that man if you get out there and01:32:11
say you a man of God when God said he01:32:14
hateth a lying tongue and you're looking01:32:17
for ways to say well what about can I01:32:19
lie this way God that way God you01:32:22
playing a dangerous game with God and if01:32:25
only examples you can give if is a life01:32:28
or death situation then guess what it's01:32:31
not good to lie and deceive then cuz the01:32:34
average human ain't in a life of death01:32:36
situation every day so what's the point01:32:39
that's what I was saying so to me I've01:32:42
never saw a bigger grifter in my life01:32:46
than a pastor that's getting millions of01:32:48
dollars and teaching that lying and01:32:50
deception is okay not only is he a01:32:52
grifter he's01:32:54
satanic it ain't no excuses you can give01:32:57
to make it okay it's always some like01:33:00
you said with the little boy if a little01:33:02
boy run to my house and the man knock on01:33:04
my door I'mma say yeah he up in here01:33:06
what you what's good get off my property01:33:09
I'm a man see my thing is if a woman01:33:13
seeking protection from me now some men01:33:15
may say I'm a lie and I'm a Hider and01:33:18
I'mma call the police right but I know a01:33:21
lot of men that are that are you know if01:33:24
if I'm going standing away and protect01:33:26
you I'm going do it all away and I'm01:33:28
going assume the authority position like01:33:31
what the police would do when they come01:33:33
they ain't going to Sugar foot about01:33:35
they going to let every man on the scene01:33:37
know who got the biggest kahunas that's01:33:40
going to be established so I can't you01:33:43
know so my thing is this right01:33:45
here um you can make all of these01:33:49
situations where it's life or death to01:33:52
where it's okay to to lie but it still01:33:56
say thou shall not lie in the Bible and01:33:59
when it when the only person I heard01:34:01
that said lying and deception is not01:34:04
immoral was Pastor Duffy you can't show01:34:07
me in the Bible where the bible say that01:34:09
y'all can make these little scenarios01:34:12
and play these games but he's still01:34:14
wrong because if you saying that it's01:34:17
only okay to lie if my life on a line01:34:20
that mean it ain't okay to lie then01:34:24
because my life is never until my life01:34:27
on the line I should be teaching people01:34:29
man be be a honest person now if your01:34:32
life on the line I get it but if you so01:34:35
but just by you saying well if your life01:34:38
on the line you would have to lie so01:34:40
lying ain't eil I didn't say your life I01:34:42
didn't say someone else no I'm talking01:34:44
about Pastor Duffy I'm G to say one more01:34:46
thing and land and you can get the floor01:34:48
Rob what I'm saying is this a pastor01:34:52
should be saying if life ain't on the01:34:54
line you ain't got no business lying01:34:57
because it's evil but he's saying well01:35:00
what if your life is on the line okay01:35:03
then lying is okay now it ain't evil no01:35:05
more and that's a lie right there lying01:35:08
is still evil now if I told a lie to01:35:11
save my life I get that I get it but01:35:14
that don't make lying good now there are01:35:17
exemptions right killing ain't good but01:35:21
if I'm killing somebody to save my life01:35:24
right then there's an exemption there01:35:27
that's a no-brainer but I'm not going to01:35:30
say killing is good just cuz I defended01:35:33
myself and killed somebody I'mma feel01:35:35
bad about it and still teach that hey01:35:38
unless you got to save your own life01:35:41
killing is bad is never good even when01:35:44
you defend yourself is01:35:48
bad so I feel the same way about01:35:51
lying um unfortunately that a pastor01:35:54
don't but again he's not your typical01:35:58
Pastor so but but now that we're we're01:36:01
we're Beyond can can I can I get in go01:36:04
ahead go ahead go ahead yeah just the01:36:05
bottom line is this that's not what will01:36:08
Duffy preaches if you go watch this01:36:09
sermon you know you understand the01:36:10
context of what are he was speaking01:36:11
about youd have a 5-second clip of him01:36:13
just saying those words in sequence and01:36:15
it sounds like what he's saying of01:36:16
course it doesn't a quick quick burst01:36:17
over and over in someone's ears but the01:36:19
reality is if you go listen to the01:36:20
sermon you'll see damage control you01:36:22
don't it's not Dage control it's reality01:36:24
control man I mean you're just talking a01:36:26
lot of stuff about a lot of people01:36:27
tonight jiren and where jiren listen01:36:30
what I'm saying bro because I don't want01:36:33
to make this messy I really want to get01:36:35
on something that's not really childish01:36:37
this feeling trollish now so let me just01:36:39
say I'm not though I'm trying to be real01:36:41
man before you get the Jared and wi set01:36:43
though cause hold on CUA I don't care01:36:46
what you think about where I stand on01:36:49
them guys right they come from among my01:36:52
community right so now they're one of01:36:55
yours I don't care what where you you01:36:57
stand with them I don't care about you01:36:59
and jiren's relationship you shouldn't01:37:01
care about me and jiren's relationship01:37:04
so uh one thing I'll say about will01:37:07
Duffy because I do care about pastors01:37:09
that's teaching lying and deception I01:37:11
come from the Bible Belt and one thing01:37:13
I'll say about will Duffy I did not take01:37:17
his stuff out of context Rob I did say01:37:21
that he made the argument if your life01:37:24
is on the line and I joked on that I01:37:26
said If a person want to lie bad they01:37:29
will make every excuse bro I made a01:37:32
video and uploaded it I don't know if01:37:34
you watched it it's called Uh of course01:37:36
I watch all your video in the video I01:37:39
said boy these people really want to lie01:37:41
bad because they making all these01:37:43
scenarios about when your life on the01:37:46
line and it stuff and I ain't say01:37:48
nothing what's wrong with that I joked01:37:49
on it though I said okay they they I01:37:53
said they making every excuse to lie01:37:56
which is the excuse of Li on a lie01:37:59
that's the video that I said well I01:38:01
ain't going to prove it to you I'll kick01:38:03
you off now I know what I said bro the01:38:06
video is there it's an hour and a half01:38:09
and yeah I know what I said in the video01:38:12
I joked on it twice I said these people01:38:15
really want to lie bad because the only01:38:17
example they can give is when you're01:38:20
life in danger drop a one in the chat01:38:22
room if you watch watch that video and01:38:24
you remember me mentioning that plenty01:38:26
of times that's why I say I'm not going01:38:29
to be trolled if you didn't watch the01:38:31
video and you don't remember it quit01:38:34
drinking that cheap moonshine that them01:38:36
red Nets drinking down there where you01:38:38
at01:38:39
Rob uh now let let me get let me see who01:38:42
we got01:38:48
on Rob drinking he said this not01:38:52
moonshine it's j Jer01:39:03
shine let's get the next caller01:39:07
on and it was brooded under a full moon01:39:12
what's up01:39:16
Beezy01:39:19
yoz man what's up to the community01:39:23
flat power what do flat power F hudon01:39:26
what happened to you man hey shout out01:39:29
to you beey talk to him hey um yeah01:39:32
because first when I came on I wanted to01:39:35
say something about jiren and Wiston but01:39:38
now I W to address Rob man if you don't01:39:41
mind right because like when you look at01:39:44
the Bible just the Bible in general um01:39:49
God like talks about liars all the time01:39:51
people with lie in tongues Jesus right01:39:55
um Revelations 29 I know the one the01:39:58
people who say they are Jews but they01:40:00
are not they are liars and they worship01:40:03
in the synagogue of Satan so um when you01:40:07
look at what Duffy is doing Duffy is01:40:10
playing semantics right to say if I said01:40:13
God is talking about liars he would say01:40:16
well and this is according to his um his01:40:20
the the thing the speech that he that R01:40:22
Sanchez talk about because I watch [ __ ]01:40:24
um what what he do if I say look at this01:40:26
page right here God is talking about01:40:28
these people that Worship in the01:40:29
synagogue of Satan that they Liars he01:40:32
would come back and say well he didn't01:40:34
say that lying was wrong he called them01:40:37
Liars but he didn't say that lying was01:40:39
wrong now when I talk about specific01:40:41
passages in the Bible versus what Duffy01:40:44
said R comes in here and add something01:40:48
to it you're adding a life or death01:40:50
situation when none of that [ __ ] is01:40:52
being talked about in Duffy spee versus01:40:55
what's being said in the Bible so when01:40:58
Duffy is talking he is basically saying01:41:01
that the Bible is not saying I can't01:41:04
find nowh what the Bible is saying that01:41:07
lying is morally wrong and that is evil01:41:11
that is wicked and for somebody to come01:41:13
in here and try to justify by saying01:41:16
wait a minute let me put some semantics01:41:18
on it and say well what if life of that01:41:22
situation Rob like I don't know you like01:41:25
that personally and no disrespect but01:41:27
when people do what you're doing that01:41:29
[ __ ] is evil that [ __ ] is wicked01:41:34
bro no01:41:37
doubt yeah it is man I can't do nothing01:41:40
but01:41:41
agree yeah he didn't even say what ra01:41:45
like it took Rob to come in here and to01:41:47
say oh this is what he was saying but01:41:49
that man never mentioned nothing about01:41:51
life of that situation bro he was01:41:53
basically trying to say that hey man01:41:56
lying is just normal it's the way of01:41:58
life it ain't wrong not even according01:42:00
to the Bible and for a p to see some01:42:03
[ __ ] like that [ __ ] wicked as hell bro01:42:06
it's so crazy Rob lying like that01:42:08
because I got a whole video of a globe01:42:11
earther that's saying there are several01:42:14
instances where it's actually being01:42:16
deception is a good thing like if01:42:18
somebody like he he was think going into01:42:21
examples like lying at somebody's smart01:42:25
when they dumb you know how people01:42:27
that'll tell you like yeah man you look01:42:30
good cuz they don't want to hurt your01:42:32
feelings and they tried to use that01:42:34
excuse I'm like that ain't nice that01:42:36
ain't a good thing that's a fake friend01:42:40
so you really can't make no example you01:42:43
know everybody talking about Sun01:42:46
observations but we going to act like01:42:48
The Sun Ain't in them clouds we just01:42:51
going to act like the sun ain't within01:42:54
the clouds like the Hebrews said it like01:42:57
the Hebrews said it so we everybody can01:43:00
go and observe the Sun for themselves01:43:02
bro outside and you can see that the sun01:43:06
is right there within the atmosphere01:43:08
inside the firmament Dome like the Bible01:43:10
said and if anybody want to come up here01:43:14
and debate me on whether or not we are01:43:17
enclosed in a firmament Dome uh we can01:43:21
we can do it but um01:43:24
Rob is in that tent smoking all them01:43:27
Paul malls and that Pastor is The Lion01:43:31
King and Jaren is01:43:34
SBA let's let's go ahead and and get the01:43:37
let's get the next caller01:43:43
in um salutes to everybody okay so01:43:48
that's everybody that's as far as calls01:43:50
go so at this time we're going into the01:43:55
uh Round01:43:58
Table remember guys let's keep the01:44:00
profanity let's let's no profanity01:44:06
and um we caming up we need cameras on01:44:10
everybody we need cameras on everybody01:44:12
we need cameras on yeah smok bro sanche01:44:17
we got the cameras on we got the round01:44:19
table01:44:20
going and uh01:44:23
salute so yeah let's let's go ahead01:44:27
and get everybody so I01:44:31
think with with everybody on right here01:44:34
it's just whoever want the mic01:44:36
first uh welcome back everybody to the01:44:39
round table so yeah whoever want the mic01:44:41
first I wanted to uh like put my take on01:44:45
something I wanted to say about Jaren01:44:47
and um uh wit it you know what I'm01:44:50
saying because I I follow wit it a01:44:51
little bit um now jiren I remember01:44:54
saying on this01:44:56
um on this show while back like I never01:44:59
really had to trust for jiren ever since01:45:01
that uh that fied experiment or whatever01:45:04
you know what I'm saying that's just was01:45:06
my my thought that was just my opinion01:45:08
on I felt that he wasn't he wasn't01:45:10
sincere about what he was doing um so01:45:13
when I heard about um the the whole uh01:45:15
final experiment [ __ ] like I really01:45:17
wasn't GNA pay too much M bro but then01:45:19
when I started kind of listening to it01:45:21
and then he started naming the people01:45:23
that was going to be on there right um01:45:25
so when they mentioned Jaren jiren I was01:45:28
like I just kind of I had my feelings01:45:31
about it I was like you know I don't01:45:32
know how what this [ __ ] gonna do01:45:34
whether he see a 24 hour son or not and01:45:36
then they they mentioned this this chick01:45:38
Li never really heard of01:45:40
her and uh and wit it so when they name01:45:43
wit it I was like well damn I said I01:45:45
don't think wit it would go over there01:45:48
and let these01:45:50
people uh do some fake [ __ ] without him01:45:52
coming in exposing or whatever you know01:45:54
what I'm saying so uh my whole thing01:45:56
about wit it is that I was wondering01:45:58
what he said because I saw I heard you01:45:59
read the comment about somebody saying01:46:01
something about wit it too and I was01:46:03
wondering what did wit it do that would01:46:05
suggest he's a shell like jiren because01:46:08
on the live stream while they was over01:46:10
there he was the one that said that yeah01:46:13
I see we seen the 24hour son but it01:46:16
doesn't Pro prove that the Earth is a01:46:18
globe and we probably just need to01:46:20
figure out how how [ __ ] work on Flat01:46:21
Earth or whatever you know so my two01:46:24
things with wi it and jarn is that I01:46:26
think jiren is a total sellout because01:46:29
you saw a 24hour son and all of a sudden01:46:31
you dismiss every [ __ ] thing that you01:46:34
did as a flat earther like how this dude01:46:36
could have these debates right and then01:46:39
come and act like I guess he's I guess01:46:41
he's ready to have debats against the01:46:44
Flat Earth is now and what he's going to01:46:47
do to prove his Globe when a 24-hour son01:46:51
doesn't even prove it01:46:53
right let's talk about wit it you know01:46:56
firstly regardless of wit it and his01:46:59
intentions or01:47:00
otherwise his association with01:47:03
jiren compromises him off the01:47:07
rip okay because01:47:10
rid he01:47:13
has Rob let's not start he has01:47:18
continually all right continually01:47:20
supported jiren from the beginning01:47:23
jiren jiren uh labels wit it as his01:47:27
business partner his words not mine all01:47:30
right wit it obviously has a dog in the01:47:33
race so we can sit here and we could01:47:36
conjecture on whatever wit's motives are01:47:38
or otherwise but his simple association01:47:41
with jiren compromises him off the bat01:47:44
because they had nothing to G they had01:47:46
nothing to gain by doing this all they01:47:48
did was put they did yes they did I I01:47:51
tell you what I tell you what can never01:47:53
talk for more than 10 here here's here's01:47:55
what you just cut somebody off who was01:47:57
talking I just want to say this real01:47:59
quick instead of you saying they didn't01:48:02
have nothing to gain how about you let01:48:06
people tell you what they had to gain01:48:09
and you can rebuttal and see if that's01:48:11
fair or not that's all I was going to01:48:14
say cuz it we can tell you what they had01:48:17
the gain you don't got to agree with it01:48:18
but to to say that you know they didn't01:48:21
have nothing to gain that's a live so01:48:23
yeah we can do that all01:48:29
day uh I don't believe you01:48:34
could so think about this01:48:39
right if I'm a01:48:43
IMDb member meaning I'm a registered01:48:47
actor I make money01:48:51
by acting in in in Netflix movies um on01:48:56
mainstream media like let's not act like01:48:59
jiren ain't different than us he's an01:49:03
actor and when you dealing with a actor01:49:05
Rob part of you got to say how much is01:49:09
this just an act to him01:49:12
because what separates a actor from01:49:15
everybody else in the room a actor can01:49:18
be anything at any time a actor is01:49:21
literally a shape01:49:23
shifter let me finish let me finish a01:49:26
actor don't got to know how to be a01:49:28
lawyer a actor don't got to be a lawyer01:49:31
a judge a police a dentist a actor can01:49:36
just be a actor and he's all of those01:49:38
things a actor can be a judge one day a01:49:42
police the next day a dentist the ne and01:49:44
convince you he's that and these are01:49:47
people you really got to watch people01:49:50
with let me tell y'all something if you01:49:52
want to take over the world you don't go01:49:54
to school for Warfare economics none of01:49:57
that you go for acting you go and I and01:50:00
I'll debate anybody on that I'll de now01:50:03
watch this01:50:05
right the fact that he's a actor and01:50:08
every time he end up on TV doing his job01:50:12
as an actor he's proving a01:50:15
globe So eventually I'm going to say is01:50:18
he's acting like he's failing because he01:50:21
know the Earth FL and it's easy to prove01:50:24
that it's flat he does it all the time01:50:26
when the cameras ain't on01:50:28
him and and I have to ask myself is this01:50:32
actor felling this on purpose like a01:50:35
quarterback throwing a game because01:50:37
somebody paid him off and I would say01:50:41
hey man if this guy is always ending up01:50:44
on some big Hollywood stage and he's an01:50:47
actor and when he get on that stage he01:50:51
misrepresent the community embarrass us01:50:53
and all that I'm going say you know what01:50:56
it must all be an act because every01:50:58
other flat earther that ain't an actor01:51:01
we don't get the opportunity that this01:51:03
IMDb member got so you're acting like01:51:07
we're wrong for putting two and two01:51:09
together you're acting like we're wrong01:51:12
for saying hey maybe this actor just01:51:14
acting he is an01:51:19
actor well just because you're on IMDb01:51:22
does not mean an actor this means you01:51:23
just played a role I didn't say that I01:51:25
just named a whole bunch of stuff01:51:27
besides that bro but he's not an actor01:51:29
though you have no proof that he's an01:51:30
actor you're just saying yes I did I do01:51:32
got proof bro he's idea I can pull it up01:51:35
right now I know but I just told you01:51:37
that if you can be an imdp and not be an01:51:39
actor you can just be part of a a01:51:41
documentary or something doesn't mean01:51:42
you're an actor you know what I'm saying01:51:43
you're just part of a documentary so so01:51:45
check this out bro once you are once you01:51:50
part of a Netflix documentary01:51:53
I don't know how much of it is a act or01:51:55
not that's just the same I can say the01:51:57
same with reality TV like I don't know01:52:01
how much of a Netflix documentary01:52:04
is scripted and acted I can tell you01:52:07
this much it's very suspicious and it01:52:10
seemen scripted in like an act of me01:52:13
because it's flat as a flat earther01:52:16
right I've seen Jaren prove Flat Earth01:52:19
on his worst day with his eyes closed01:52:22
but every time he's on the mainstream01:52:24
media he fails now you acting like it's01:52:28
wrong for us to be suspicious is no01:52:31
different than a quarterback that does01:52:33
hella good in practice the quarterback01:52:36
does hella good all season and then the01:52:41
same team we was blowing out all year he01:52:44
throw 20 interceptions and he don't just01:52:47
do it one season he do it three seasons01:52:51
Every Time We him out every other day01:52:53
and it's like if the team start saying01:52:57
you think he getting paid off as he01:52:59
throwing it on purpose you can't fault01:53:02
the01:53:03
team that's suspicious that our01:53:06
quarterback is doing a good job all the01:53:08
time but when it really01:53:10
counts and we know that's how people act01:53:13
when they're throwing stuff on purpose01:53:15
cuz they got a01:53:18
bag that happens in sports it happened01:53:20
in sports all the time and I don't think01:53:23
that that suspicion that people got is01:53:26
wrong so I think I think y'all ought to01:53:29
be like you know what y'all got the01:53:32
right to be suspicious but let's get to01:53:35
the scientific debate we ain't having a01:53:37
debate about your suspicions right if I01:53:41
would do I would do that if I was you01:53:43
yeah yeah but jiren never said the Earth01:53:46
is a globe he just said he's not a flat01:53:47
earther so you're actually he said it is01:53:50
Globe he said it's a glob you're wrong01:53:52
Rob Rob his quote was quote was the01:53:55
globe the globe now has the better01:53:58
evidence and the Flat Earth01:54:00
is hold on sythetic I'm not saying that01:54:04
he's not inferring something but got a01:54:06
video clip hold on bro I'm right in the01:54:08
middle what's the difference between01:54:09
inferring something and saying it01:54:11
outright it's the same message Rob you01:54:14
know that I got one question what he01:54:17
said he was doing search for01:54:19
truth to findu I ain't tripping I'm I'm01:54:22
trying to give you the problem I'm hold01:54:25
up bro I'm trying to give you the01:54:27
problem you being chaotic relax take a01:54:29
deep breath listen here's the problem01:54:32
you're making false claims jiren said01:54:36
that the Earth is a big ball I got the01:54:39
clip he said we measured it flat because01:54:44
it it's we're inside of a Home Depot and01:54:47
it's flat everywhere inside that Home01:54:49
Depot but he said what if that is on top01:54:51
of a big ball and I told him jiren the01:54:56
big ball ain't the Earth that would be01:54:58
space that'll be outside the earth I01:55:00
debated the man I know what I said and01:55:02
what he said I know I was there too I01:55:04
was there and bro Sanchez let me get01:55:06
this off please and he's still saying01:55:07
that he measures things flat he just01:55:08
saying that if we're gonna go with a I'm01:55:11
sorry we're if you guys are gonna go01:55:12
with a 20 a 24-hour or whatever a m a01:55:15
map or a model of a flat Earth how can01:55:17
he can't explain through his research01:55:19
and his stuff that how that Sun's going01:55:21
to circle that Union Glacier area like01:55:24
that because even on your a map you01:55:26
brought up earlier they had son in01:55:28
Antarctica all the time there for like01:55:29
four days they were there but the people01:55:31
in Australia still had Sun so you can't01:55:33
bring01:55:34
up let let me land yeah but you're just01:55:37
gonna go on and on and not I got 10 more01:55:39
seconds I got 10 more seconds I got 1001:55:41
more seconds because there's no way you01:55:43
can show that 24-hour sun down there01:55:44
circling and have the sunshine and R01:55:47
Sunrise can I ask you a question one01:55:50
question am I I got you I got you no01:55:53
it's not no it's not I'mma show you why01:55:55
I'mma show you why if you're saying I01:55:58
got you bro if you're saying that the01:56:01
circling Sun and Moon Over the map don't01:56:03
work the way that jiren presented it I01:56:06
agree with you that's dead but the ASM01:56:09
of equidistant map still has the right01:56:12
ASM of equidistant projections it's01:56:14
right and the man that made that map he01:56:17
didn't put a sun or moon over it if01:56:19
someone take that map and put hold on01:56:21
bro01:56:22
yes it is because it got the ASM of01:56:25
equidistant projections right if I make01:56:28
a heat map for this for the weather01:56:30
right now and my heat data is right it01:56:33
don't matter if Jaren son don't work01:56:35
over my map my map got the heat data01:56:38
right and it's a heat map and people01:56:41
still going to use the AE map for what01:56:43
it was made for just because Jared01:56:46
misused it and put a son over it the man01:56:49
that made the map didn't do that and it01:56:51
don't debunked the map it debunked what01:56:54
he thought the sun NOP when I'm done it01:56:57
debunked what he thought the sun would01:57:00
do over it and you got to be patient man01:57:02
we can't talk over each other I'm going01:57:04
get when you talk I'm going to let you01:57:05
go so here's what you got to realize01:57:09
right um I'm not a 24hour son earther01:57:14
I'm a flat earther and you just said01:57:18
Jared said he still measures it flat you01:57:21
agree you said well he didn't say he's a01:57:23
glob birther he still said he measures01:57:25
it flat and that's what I'm saying until01:57:28
he measure it a curve Rob I'mma Be A01:57:31
flat earther I don't care what the sun01:57:33
do until jiren say well I measured it a01:57:37
curve and prove that then I'm a I'm a01:57:40
flat earther because guess what let me01:57:42
show you why I'm a flat earther bro you01:57:44
have measured it01:57:45
flat I know I know I heard it man we01:57:48
heard it all all day long right can I01:57:49
get can I get in can I get in now01:57:52
right until you measure the curve then01:57:56
it's so so you say so you say the a the01:57:59
AE map there as a m projection01:58:01
equidistant map or whatever you say it's01:58:03
a projection you say it's a real map or01:58:04
whatever but if you bring it up on01:58:06
screen right now you'll see that the01:58:07
distance between Australia and South01:58:09
America where critical think one of the01:58:11
guys who went on a trip flew that exact01:58:13
flight path there's no way that it's at01:58:15
that distance disingenuous I just01:58:16
disorted your model again your model01:58:18
doesn't work the a you have no Model A01:58:20
map ain't ain't my model though it's01:58:22
it's just a map it's just a map listen01:58:25
dude I'm telling you I'm a flat earther01:58:27
not a AE mapper I don't know why y'all01:58:30
trying to do that bro my whole thing is01:58:32
this you're a glob birther you don't01:58:35
agree with the path shaped Earth but01:58:37
that's some people out there that say01:58:39
the Earth is par shaped there's some01:58:41
people on your side that say it's an01:58:43
oblate spiroid there's some people that01:58:45
say it's a perfect Spirit y'all can't01:58:48
really make up your mind on which out of01:58:50
the three it is but I don't I just let01:58:52
y'all have your three types of Ty no bro01:58:56
we ain't gonna make it like a Paris a01:58:58
basketball it's not a Spirits a path01:59:00
shaper and to be that's what I'm saying01:59:03
bro we not going let you that's what's01:59:05
going to get you put um you gotta be01:59:07
honest man like come on bro they're01:59:10
different shapes man and my whole thing01:59:12
is this if we go to space and take01:59:15
pictures of the earth and they give us a01:59:18
perfect spear why do you have P shaped01:59:20
earthers and oake spiroid earthers so my01:59:24
thing my whole point that I'm making is01:59:26
this right01:59:27
here you're talking about the AE map but01:59:30
when it come to Flat Earth all I use the01:59:33
AE map to prove is that the ground is01:59:35
flat I don't say what the sun do over it01:59:39
which is why if you look at my gear I01:59:41
don't got the sun or moon on01:59:44
that so I don't put the Sun and Moon01:59:47
over it jiren did and the fact that01:59:50
y'all trying to throw us all under the01:59:52
bus with jiren that's kind of messed up01:59:54
that you won't let every man speak for01:59:56
himself because there are several flat01:59:59
earthers that don't subscribe to what02:00:01
jiren subscribed to y'all want to throw02:00:03
everybody02:00:05
down and that's crazy understand that no02:00:07
I'm not doing that I don't do that bro02:00:09
honest I agree with you on that but I'm02:00:10
saying you as I watched you guys for at02:00:12
least you know four years now three02:00:14
years and I know that you been down with02:00:15
J for a long time yeah I mean what did02:00:17
he really hold on please let me just fly02:00:19
for a second man I I ain't interrup at02:00:22
the end of the day I I am a glob I'm a02:00:23
not just I come out here to debate you02:00:24
and prove you wrong but at the end of02:00:26
the day I just don't understand like02:00:27
what did he do that's so wrong for you02:00:30
to do this to him I mean hold on I'm02:00:33
almost done he said he's seen it son for02:00:34
24 hours big [ __ ] deal man I mean02:00:36
find a way to deal with it but why do02:00:37
you got to destroy him he didn't do02:00:39
anything wrong he wenty thought was02:00:41
right because you're acting like02:00:43
everything he did is some kind of s off02:00:44
and he's like disingenuous I mean the02:00:46
guy the guy did what he did jiren's a02:00:48
different type of character man hey Rob02:00:51
let me explain myself you you can get it02:00:55
back let me let me let me let me let me02:00:57
you're really making it like you know02:00:59
he's going out and doing things and you02:01:01
guys hating on02:01:03
him here here here's what I'm hating on02:01:06
right here bro a man that told me this02:01:09
25,000 Home02:01:11
Depot a man that is now a Home Depot02:01:15
earther I'm baffled at that and I don't02:01:18
know if you ever know what it's like to02:01:20
have a friend that says you I've02:01:23
measured it flat there is no curvature02:01:24
on Earth you I've measured it flat and02:01:26
now say but hold on bro I'll let you02:01:30
talk let me talk here's what he's saying02:01:32
now though that he's measuring it flat02:01:35
because we're in 25,000 Home Depots02:01:39
we're inside of a Home Depot and that02:01:41
Home Depot is on top of a globe he02:01:45
didn't measure the globe that the Home02:01:47
Depot sitting on but he said he measured02:01:49
the Home Depot measured it flat02:01:52
I don't I'm baffled at that like come on02:01:55
rob you got to take a minute and laugh02:01:57
at that a Home Depot Rob come on man rob02:02:00
I listen to that show I remember that02:02:01
show I remember that that was not only02:02:04
that Rob he's lashing out on flat02:02:07
earther going in on him yes he is Rob02:02:10
yes he is Rob don't make no excuses02:02:13
don't make no excuses for why Rob cuz02:02:15
you ain't jarn jiren Rob jiren has been02:02:19
dishonest you guys02:02:22
listen treating them like a little baby02:02:26
it's unbelievable the reality is jiren02:02:28
has been dishonest consistently over the02:02:32
course of a number of02:02:34
years the information regarding the02:02:37
celestial data that contraindicated his02:02:40
model was presented to him seven years02:02:44
ago he not only ignored the data but he02:02:47
vilified anybody presenting it he now02:02:50
today pretends as though he never heard02:02:53
of this information even though I've02:02:55
witnessed multiple people explained it02:02:57
to him including02:02:59
myself jiren knows very well that the02:03:05
sun angles do not fit the model that02:03:08
he's been promoting yet he claims that02:03:12
that's the only model possible and if he02:03:14
had ever known it he would have never02:03:16
became a flat earther all right he's02:03:18
lied consistently so where sitting here02:03:22
seeing a man who has betrayed the02:03:24
community one of the worst things you02:03:25
can do is to betray somebody lying in02:03:29
gaslighting strawmanning us all into02:03:31
model with an obvious agenda no this is02:03:35
true you just don't want to hear this is02:03:36
slanderous this is slander dude you have02:03:38
nothing to back it up do y'all hear this02:03:40
crap this man saying that we slandering02:03:43
this man just cuz we questioning his02:03:45
footage and we think that it's some02:03:47
fishy about the footage we scrutinizing02:03:50
it we saying that the Sun and Antarctica02:03:52
also don't debunk the Flat Earth that's02:03:55
all people telling jiren what I don't02:03:57
like right now is that jiren is a grown02:04:00
man and y'all really treating him like a02:04:02
little girl right now bro like ain't02:04:05
nobody hurting the man like y'all trying02:04:07
to blow this thing02:04:09
out bro bro relax bro a person ain't got02:04:13
to watch your content we're all adults02:04:16
man you wouldn't teach your children02:04:17
that we teach our children words don't02:04:20
hurt son if they don't put your hands on02:04:23
you you keep minding your business and02:04:25
get your lesson but y'all want to hold02:04:27
this grown man hands just cuz we using02:04:30
the internet for the same thing we've02:04:32
been using it before because when he was02:04:35
a flat earther he was going in on02:04:37
globers and NASA and all that so now if02:04:40
he want to debate the same community02:04:43
that was going in on the globe and he02:04:45
want to defit in the globe let him02:04:47
debate us without holding his hand dog I02:04:49
don't mind you rocking with02:04:52
but quit acting like nobody challenging02:04:54
him and everything we doing or say to02:04:56
disagree with him is some kind of02:04:58
slander or something bro we can have our02:05:01
opinion not you so listen I'm just02:05:03
saying it's borderline man it's get to02:05:05
that line where it's like you're not02:05:07
even you're not even now we're to the02:05:09
point now slander suit02:05:11
in you're not but now we're to the point02:05:13
where you're we're not even looking at02:05:15
what he did or what he did down there02:05:17
and all we are looking at it that's what02:05:19
we're that's what we're criticizing no02:05:21
you're no criticizing his character and02:05:22
now he's saying he Li for no we're not02:05:24
criticizing his character bro how are we02:05:26
doing02:05:28
that02:05:29
how I'm trying to explain I02:05:32
get you guys are saying all how can a02:05:35
guy lie for first of all why why am I a02:05:37
glober up here defending jiren Capell02:05:39
this is crazy exactly hey Rob hey Rob02:05:41
stop for a minute that's just what I was02:05:42
going to talk about do like I think like02:05:45
you're the worst because you're doing02:05:46
them dirty you guys are doing listen02:05:49
hold up hold up hold up wait a minute02:05:50
wait wait wait wait wait you telling me02:05:53
we doing this man dirty when I'm going02:05:55
tell you right now if I played for a NFL02:05:58
team and my quarterback kept throwing02:06:01
the game for the Ops he doing the team02:06:04
dirty and if he don't take02:06:06
accountability that every time you on a02:06:09
spotlight and the team depending on you02:06:11
it's a hit piece and you fail even if he02:06:14
say well it's an Hest mistake where the02:06:17
team still can be critical on you if02:06:20
everybody else holding they wait and the02:06:22
mainstream camera is always on you and02:06:25
you the one keep making a mistake in02:06:27
front of that camera but everybody else02:06:29
can't get that camera and we ain't02:06:31
making no mistakes everything we doing02:06:34
is like Flawless Victory so my whole02:06:37
thing I'm I'm like bro I just don't get02:06:39
it with jiren that every time this man02:06:42
go on02:06:44
mainstream it's a failure now listen you02:06:48
ain't a flat earther so you listen02:06:51
listen though but bro this what you not02:06:53
going to do this is the Flat Earth02:06:56
Community right jar and come from among02:06:58
this community you ain't going to tell02:07:01
me about a teammate of mine who I said02:07:05
fail to play because you don't practice02:07:08
with us you don't know how we run our02:07:11
plays and what our coach say I know he02:07:14
missed his assignment and that he02:07:15
felling and I know how he felling I'm on02:07:18
his team you don't play for his team so02:07:21
but I'm telling you sometime you talking02:07:24
about stuff that like you shouldn't be02:07:28
talking about because when you say well02:07:30
he didn't fail according to Flat02:07:33
earthers it's a failure with us you02:07:35
ain't on this team though so you make02:07:38
the rules how is that a failure bro02:07:39
sanche I don't because I'm trying to02:07:41
tell you right now bro on behind the02:07:44
curve when they did the experiment to02:07:48
prove that the Earth was flat guess what02:07:50
they ended up saying oh what and it then02:07:54
they ended up proving it's a curve and02:07:57
my whole thing is guess what jiren told02:08:00
us jiren02:08:03
said you can't measure the curve of the02:08:05
Earth because it's too big he's saying02:08:08
it's a big ball now and jiren was saying02:08:12
yeah it could be a big ball that we just02:08:15
can't measure the curve cuz it's too big02:08:17
now listen if we can't measure the curve02:08:20
cuz it's too big big and that's what02:08:22
globalist teach how come we miraculously02:08:25
measure it on behind the curve we can02:08:28
always seem to measure this curve from02:08:30
the ground when it's a hit piece on TV02:08:34
but in a flat Earth debate on YouTube02:08:37
you can't measure the curve from the02:08:39
ground because you know we you can't02:08:42
pull that on us though but the mass is02:08:44
so dumb down they'll take the hit pieces02:08:48
just like this one with the final02:08:50
experiment got you so pretty so pretty02:08:52
much anytime someone proved at the02:08:54
sphere you they get no no no no here it02:08:57
is right here I'm trying to tell you02:08:59
what it is here's what I'm trying to02:09:00
tell you if a02:09:02
person say this right here there is no02:09:04
curvature on Earth there is no curvature02:09:06
on Earth there is no no curvature on02:09:08
Earth and they tell me that for years02:09:11
and they say there's no way you can find02:09:13
curvature on Earth they say even if it's02:09:16
a ball you can't find a curvature cuz02:09:19
the ball too big but they find the02:09:21
curvature on a Netflix Netflix02:09:25
documentary and guess what I know about02:09:27
Netflix documentaries they known for02:09:30
doing hit pieces so check me out bro02:09:34
okay when you say that if a person prove02:09:38
the globe does that make them02:09:40
untrustworthy when they say that you02:09:42
can't prove the globe but fake like they02:09:46
did to people who we know don't know no02:09:48
better and they know and I know that02:09:50
they did that02:09:52
what am I to say if a man say there is02:09:55
no curvature on Earth and you can't even02:09:57
find no curve on the earth because it's02:09:59
too big but he keep finding one when the02:10:02
lion me see Tupac said it yeah he said02:10:06
the metor full of dirty lies and tricks02:10:08
and they02:10:09
are and and I keep saying some of these02:10:13
lies and tricks I'm not going to turn my02:10:15
blind ey to it yeah talk to it man let's02:10:17
let's let's let's get it out so yeah I02:10:19
mean you made Fair points but my whole02:10:21
but my I have a point for you then if02:10:23
that's true and you said the one he did02:10:24
the Bedford level whatever it was the02:10:26
the holes in the wood I mean that's02:10:28
something that you could have did on02:10:29
your channel you could have got your02:10:30
your results the holes in the what you02:10:32
which one the one on the Netflix where02:10:35
he said oh yeah there it is that LE the02:10:37
[ __ ] yeah we no it wasn't yeah we all02:10:39
watched it it was a light that went02:10:40
through the holes in the let me ask you02:10:41
a real let me ask you a question real02:10:43
quick have you ever done the Puget laser02:10:46
sound test what D marble did because02:10:48
I'mma tell you something out out of all02:10:51
the tests that I've seen done the spirit02:10:54
level joint and the Puget level laser02:10:57
test is pretty kick kickass I ain't02:10:59
going to lie and it's so I wonder why02:11:02
the mainstream media never wanted to get02:11:05
on that but check this out right have02:11:08
you ever done a laser test like what d02:11:11
Marvel did nope I have not done no laser02:11:14
okay now let me ask you another question02:11:15
let me ask you another question uh02:11:19
then do you think that Marble's laser02:11:22
test prove Flat02:11:24
Earth no now watch this right you didn't02:11:28
do the test yourself but you don't think02:11:30
it prove Flat Earth and you telling me I02:11:34
could have done the same test jiren did02:11:37
right that's what I don't get you02:11:39
telling me I could have done jiren test02:11:41
right when jiren did a test that I agree02:11:45
with Jaren you measured it flat jiren02:11:47
measured it flat and I agree with jiren02:11:50
I don't got the do the test myself cuz I02:11:52
got other ways to know that it's flat02:11:55
and his test just backed up hold on his02:11:58
test just backed up what I already knew02:12:01
that it was flat so when I when when he02:12:04
got the results it confirmed what I02:12:06
already knew right so my thing is this02:12:10
the marble test results don't02:12:13
confirm what you agree with so you02:12:16
should go behind him and see if it's02:12:18
true for you say I don't agree with it02:12:21
me on the other hand I agree with de02:12:24
marble test I knew that he was GNA that02:12:26
he was gonna measure the difference the02:12:28
difference being I'm sorry can I can I02:12:29
get in real quick the difference being02:12:31
would be that you can do the you can do02:12:32
the [ __ ] or I'm sorry you can't swear02:12:34
right here now you got you can do his uh02:12:36
Juran experiment what they did you can02:12:37
do that in a field you know what I'm02:12:39
saying I can't go to pugin S I could go02:12:41
to pugin sound but it's a lot more it's02:12:42
a lot more realistic and easy to do in02:12:44
real life situations I mean you're just02:12:47
I do have Lake St Clair and I I have02:12:48
done site tests across Lake St Clair I02:12:50
can't see Canada that's 21 miles across02:12:53
so you can't see Canada but have you02:12:54
done well have you done have you done J02:12:58
have you done jaren's test the one you02:13:00
telling me to02:13:01
do yes the Bedford level test yes I've02:13:04
done the Bedford level test and you02:13:05
didn't record it and put it up to show02:13:07
flaters that they was wrong bro I got 5802:13:11
subscribers man you got 150,000 dude but02:13:14
I want to watch the video right now02:13:16
let's watch it oh [ __ ] oh I don't have I02:13:19
don't have it on me right now myop oh no02:13:22
no no02:13:23
no that's02:13:26
crazy wow I haven't I don't I my02:13:30
Channel's about coming on panels man I02:13:32
don't put up wow02:13:34
fatality no it's not a fatality it's a02:13:37
it's reality it's okay02:13:40
bro if you if you did it if you did it02:13:43
we don't know we gotta believe you and02:13:46
and here's the thing here's the thing02:13:48
about yeah exactly I don't have no proof02:13:49
for I don't have no proof right now02:13:51
and what's the point of doing test to02:13:53
show up with no proof go ahead my02:14:03
brother02:14:06
that's here's how it's a f here's how02:14:08
it's a fatality bro and and the sad part02:14:10
about it is that you're doing put your02:14:12
camera on hey bro you gotta put his02:14:13
camera on right yeah all cameras on I02:14:16
have my camera on yeah when y'all02:14:18
talking if y'all talking cut your camer02:14:21
on but you know just so people can see02:14:23
my ugly ass gota be on here you gotta be02:14:25
on02:14:26
here go ahead get in though get02:14:29
him yeah you right you are I'm just02:14:32
playing with you but uh yeah here's how02:14:34
is a fatality bro ra we've been knowing02:14:36
you for a long time right and just like02:14:39
all the times you've been on this02:14:42
platform um you're the same way now you02:14:45
are hard everything that you're02:14:49
doing hear me out hear me out you're02:14:52
consistent right at doing what you're02:14:54
doing and you're so hard about it you02:14:56
standing on it and everything you're02:14:58
literally here trying to convince us not02:15:01
to call out somebody who we think just02:15:04
might be a fraud in the community we do02:15:07
all the time to the FL Earth you know02:15:08
he's not a02:15:10
fraud man quit cutting people off bro02:15:13
you don't know what people know man02:15:15
I'mma tell you something right now Rob I02:15:18
I don't know it it's starting to seem02:15:20
like they sent you now you need to knock02:15:23
it off a little bit if if it start you02:15:26
overdoing it a little bit now brother02:15:28
with your with your D riding let's go go02:15:30
ahead come on man I'm passionate bro02:15:31
don't do that come on brother yeah02:15:35
brother let them man finish man go ahead02:15:38
man hey hold up the reason why I say is02:15:40
a02:15:42
fat everything I about you like an02:15:47
experiment that proves the flatter Earth02:15:50
that's wrong but that to me your02:15:52
demeanor it it it says that you would be02:15:55
the main person to want to provide that02:15:58
evidence you on this channel all the02:16:00
time speaking hard about what you02:16:01
believe in and you actually have02:16:03
evidence that I guess you're holding as02:16:05
a wild card or something or it's too02:16:07
precious to just reveal02:16:09
to that could just prove them wrong but02:16:12
you don't have that evidence that says02:16:15
right there dog that when BR Sanchez ask02:16:17
you that question yes it's a it's02:16:19
fatality dog because no it's not I have02:16:22
all the evidence02:16:24
why do you see do you information hey do02:16:28
you see the information that bro Sanchez02:16:30
about all this [ __ ] that he talking02:16:32
about excuse the profanity that's02:16:34
somebody who willing to do not only do02:16:36
the research but to show and prove it02:16:39
ain't about going on his word it's about02:16:41
showing02:16:44
evidence globers and this and that bro02:16:47
that [ __ ] crazy Bey what's up you there02:16:51
oh y'all Y y' think I got I think I got02:16:55
yeah but I was saying like just just02:16:56
like bro Sanchez if you look at02:16:58
everything that he do with all the02:16:59
information that he provide to show what02:17:01
he talking about and this and that and02:17:04
and you know what I'm saying that's02:17:05
passion it seem it seem like you got so02:17:07
much passion into convincing flat Earths02:17:10
that we live on a ball and you just02:17:12
admitted that you have proof that we02:17:13
kind that that should uh convince us but02:17:17
yet there's no passion into delivering02:17:19
the evidence it's kind it's just kind of02:17:21
crazy to me and and that's far as that02:17:23
the 24-hour Sun like like you say the02:17:26
thing I think you are sick here because02:17:29
what's happening is you're trying to02:17:30
paint the picture that uh Flat Earth is02:17:34
or it's basically like the headline that02:17:36
flat is a uh in a meltdown and this and02:17:39
that and they turning on their own02:17:41
people you know what I'm saying it's02:17:43
kind of crazy for people to do that and02:17:45
then you mention that it's happening02:17:48
because uh y'all Pro that the Earth was02:17:51
and nobody Prov that the Earth was02:17:58
because I just I just gotta make you02:18:00
understand what I'm saying like Ro02:18:01
Sanchez and I'm sure you watched the02:18:03
video before they even took the trip he02:18:07
was on that in the main uh topic no he02:18:09
was not no he was not BR Sanchez did not02:18:13
men Flat Earth again until after02:18:14
Christmas because the last time jiren02:18:17
was on the last time he FL I'm talking02:18:19
about02:18:21
Hey listen bro listen to me cuz I'm sure02:18:23
you watch this you ain't listening was02:18:26
that was a show that he came on with02:18:28
talking about the trip that they was02:18:30
taking to Antarctica right and I think02:18:32
the guy Lindsay was uh the guy Lindsay02:18:35
was uh was on that uh on that show02:18:38
explaining how a 24hour son does not not02:18:42
only does it not um prove a globe it02:18:46
don't make sense on a globe it's02:18:47
impossible on a globe but he also but he02:18:50
also gave you why uh what's happening02:18:53
with the uh or the reason why you see in02:18:55
a 24-hour son or whatever so in that02:18:57
video what I'm what I'm basically saying02:18:59
is that bro Sanchez was on that already02:19:01
saying we was already saying that a02:19:04
24hour son does not prove the globe and02:19:07
y'all it SP that money took02:19:10
that had to to look at a 24hour02:19:13
something because y'all the point is02:19:16
yeah02:19:18
there hold up the point is we've already02:19:23
stood on the fact in the Flat Earth02:19:24
community that Sky observations don't02:19:27
change the shape of the ground even02:19:29
jiren Tau that at one point so this02:19:32
wouldn't be no different go ahead so02:19:34
that's why but that's my whole point so02:19:35
why are you so mad at him just because02:19:37
he said he's seen a 24-hour son nobody02:19:39
mad at him for that listen I want I02:19:43
want stop stop yo I want y'all to yo yo02:19:47
I'm talking bro chill out man listen no02:19:50
body mad at him cuz he saw a 24-hour son02:19:54
what we mad at him is that he saying02:19:56
it's now a globe and the Earth can't be02:19:59
flat because of that it's a big ball02:20:01
that's his current stance and he he said02:20:05
that if you do that again I'mma boot you02:20:07
bro you talking to a person that talked02:20:10
to the man myself I'm about to kick you02:20:13
off man like because you lying right I02:20:16
talked to the Man twice he double down02:20:18
on it more than one time he still saying02:20:21
it on this channel like what are you02:20:23
doing that's what I don't get about you02:20:26
what like why do that just deal with02:20:29
what he's saying versus try to do that02:20:31
bro that's that's02:20:34
stupid he it would don't understand that02:20:39
I like it's a desperate claim like02:20:42
globers are desperate to say that if you02:20:45
see a 24hour son in that AR that02:20:48
that Destro the we're not mad at him02:20:52
that we not mad at him for that that's02:20:55
what we mad at him about that's false02:20:58
dichotomy you telling me that the that02:21:01
it only works this way that's what's a02:21:04
lie right there that's the LIE right02:21:07
there show me that there are several exp02:21:09
okay check this out right are you aware02:21:12
of that the sun doesn't triangulate that02:21:15
when different people look at the sun02:21:17
there is no single triangulation from02:21:20
from their line of sight toward the sun02:21:22
all of those people are you aware of02:21:24
that cuz if not you can't even have this02:21:26
conversation yeah yeah I definitely I'm02:21:28
aware of the fact that you can't show me02:21:29
any map or model that will show me okay02:21:31
see what I'm saying y'all 25,000 Home02:21:35
Depots that's how you get that's what02:21:37
you get from these Home Depot ERS man02:21:40
you see what I just told him because he02:21:42
know that that's real and he got to02:21:45
admit to it and when he admit to it he02:21:47
realized what where this is about to go02:21:49
come on now dog Daddy Sanchez come on02:21:54
man Sanchez I'm02:21:57
rolling camera's on everybody appreciate02:22:01
you so much for that talk to me though02:22:03
Bren what you what you got for me camera02:22:07
on we gotta let Bren go I'm not really02:22:10
trusting Bren account I'm be I don't02:22:12
trust him either bro yeah we letting you02:22:19
go I'm WR here to get his ass up out of02:22:22
there no hey bro Sanchez I've been02:22:23
holding my phone for like two hours man02:22:25
if I put my phone phone up will you02:22:26
please not mute me because I can't reach02:22:27
in and mute I'm02:22:29
muted I'll be quiet though you good you02:22:31
good what's good my sister yeah so peace02:22:35
and02:22:36
love Yeah anybody want the mic just02:22:39
interject but Rob trying to make and02:22:43
that's what my thing like everybody from02:22:46
that side coming with a false02:22:48
dichotomy of that it can only work this02:22:51
way and no way else my whole thing about02:22:54
a 24-hour son in Antarctica if jiren02:22:58
agreed that he measured it flat and I02:23:01
don't even hear no Global going at jiren02:23:05
for that I don't hear no glober going02:23:07
and saying Jaren ain't no way you could02:23:10
have measured it flat man cuz it's a02:23:12
curve they letting him have that they're02:23:16
maintaining they're maintaining look02:23:19
they maintain cuz Global are saying yeah02:23:22
you going to measure it flat that's cuz02:23:24
it's such a big ball and that's what02:23:26
jiren saying02:23:28
now but ain't no ain't02:23:31
nobody saying this in the first place02:23:34
I'm like ain't nobody saying if you just02:23:36
thinking of this now it was other Globe02:23:38
earthers making the argument that he's02:23:40
making now then02:23:44
yeah because you want to know what02:23:46
happened was but even before they got02:23:48
there they had trouble working a basic02:23:50
compass on their phones and even the02:23:51
compasses they brought when they got to02:23:52
Antarctica they realized that the02:23:54
globers that came there were very02:23:56
prepared there's over two dozen02:23:57
experiments done over there on the02:23:59
Antarctica so it was an experiment it02:24:01
was the final experiment they did02:24:02
multiple of them all the videos are02:24:04
coming out the next few weeks here will02:24:05
Duffy is going to just delightfully02:24:09
delightfully release this and just laugh02:24:11
as you guys try to cope with hey man02:24:14
sh this if he think releasing footage of02:24:18
a 24-hour son and anarctica debunks Flat02:24:21
Earth then you know what that lies just02:24:25
as big as that Gap in his mouth I don't02:24:29
understand why Rob coming up trying to02:24:31
change the debate from the shape of the02:24:33
earth and that it don't spin we don't02:24:36
care what the sun doing we ain't going02:24:38
to let y'all change the narrative Rob02:24:40
and try to make it like when he releases02:24:42
this footage of that son doing that man02:24:45
if he don't release No footage or the02:24:47
curve then he ain't showing me what I02:24:49
want see y'all think y'all slick we ask02:24:53
for a curve bro we are called Flat02:24:55
earthers not 24-hour sunners I never02:24:58
asked you for they meas the curve there02:24:59
too don't worry it's coming out soon02:25:01
they measure the curve what you should02:25:03
be a hold on hold02:25:06
on why you got to go to Antarctica to02:25:09
measure the curve if it's all around02:25:11
earth right oh they were there why not02:25:13
they were02:25:14
there that's hey that's02:25:16
Des experiment02:25:21
Des experiment now watch this though02:25:24
I'mma show y'all I'mma show y'all howly02:25:27
I'm show yall I'mma show y'all right how02:25:30
silly Globe birthers are right don't you02:25:33
know in Antarctica they got sheets of02:25:36
ice that go for the size of big cities02:25:39
and states now now watch this right they02:25:43
got they got big SE I'm talking about02:25:45
ice seats right that goes for Miles bro02:25:49
the of cities and states you know you02:25:52
been there check this out right this is02:25:54
what the globe Earths teach though so02:25:57
check this out I'm using their own02:25:58
teachings against them it don't matter02:26:01
if I believe it or not or if I've been02:26:03
there I'm going to show you how what02:26:05
they say debunk what they say so you02:26:07
can't play me with that and if you02:26:09
interrupt me again I'mma put you out now02:26:12
check this out right you got ice sheets02:26:16
that go for the size of cities states02:26:19
this what they tell us right I want02:26:21
y'all to show me a ice sheet that's able02:26:23
to arch up because you know how brittle02:26:26
ice is and you know a sheet is what a02:26:29
plane right it ain't ice Bowls because02:26:32
on the globe they got Antarctica as this02:26:35
big Ice Bowl but guess what though if we02:26:38
want to deal with ice I want y'all to uh02:26:43
you know reduplicate this so my whole02:26:46
thing is this Rob how can you be in02:26:49
Antarctica with your shirt off Rob how02:26:53
because the last time I take my shirt02:26:55
off right now man it's 10 degrees out02:26:57
I'll take my shirt off right now let me02:26:58
tell you something Rob I watch let me02:27:01
tell you something Rob I watch many02:27:05
survival videos is what I do I was in02:27:07
the Infantry right and I'mma tell you02:27:09
what I02:27:11
know okay so let me go ahead and take02:27:13
you off man02:27:16
because he just hating right because my02:27:20
life is more successful than his you02:27:23
know Rob lives in a tent somewhere in02:27:25
Backwoods backwat Flint02:27:28
Michigan and you know he got a big old02:27:32
bucket where he just probably spits02:27:34
chewing tobacco in it all day and don't02:27:36
dump it and it fills up and overfloweth02:27:39
with chocolate milk so we going to leave02:27:43
Rob alone because Rob don't know how to02:27:47
behave and you know Rob give me the vibe02:27:50
of a dude that'll let snot run down and02:27:53
then lick it off the top of his top lip02:27:56
so let's get him up out of here let's go02:27:57
to the next02:28:01
caller what's going on02:28:05
man right to y'all let me grab it right02:28:08
quick I'm GNA give it right to y'all a02:28:09
couple sentences to me a um a 24hour son02:28:14
right to me is still more logical on a02:28:18
flat plane than it would be on a a globe02:28:21
spining so even by them saying that I'm02:28:24
like okay well let's say it's not02:28:26
spending it wouldn't it be easier to be02:28:28
a 24-hour son at that location if ain't02:28:32
nothing spinning versus everything02:28:35
spinning going through the Galaxy and it02:28:37
does that so regardless what they talk02:28:41
about it's it's a flat plane and the the02:28:45
world move around us the only thing02:28:47
that's round is the thing that move02:28:49
around02:28:51
ain't nothing else wrong it's the cosmic02:28:53
a but yeah I'mma let y'all get the mic I02:28:55
just wanted to punch in y'all got it02:28:58
yeah yeah cuz my whole thing my whole02:29:02
thing is you know just to pigy back on02:29:06
what drop saying if we observe a 24-hour02:29:09
son why not if you want to move the gold02:29:12
post what I like about flat earthers02:29:15
will'll let you move the gold post if02:29:17
you don't want to deal with the shape of02:29:19
the ground no more if you want to talk02:29:21
about what the sun doing we'll debate02:29:23
you on that and we'll come with more02:29:25
better explanations of how the Sun work02:29:28
on the Flat Earth than the globe Earth02:29:30
but they don't want to do that they just02:29:32
want to say it can only work on our02:29:34
model and not yours therefore let's end02:29:37
the debate and that's coward y'all want02:29:39
to stop fighting so bad if you thought02:29:42
you was winning this fight why would you02:29:44
want to stop fighting the losers want to02:29:47
stop not the winners they they was02:29:50
hoping that this final experiment would02:29:52
end the debate but we like no we got an02:29:55
explanation for that and they like d02:29:57
y'all do no it can only work our way on02:30:00
our globe we don't want to hear your02:30:02
explanations that ain't02:30:04
Fair we letting y'all change the gold02:30:07
post at least let us have an argument02:30:09
about the Sun and how it work on ours02:30:11
too which you now they said nope if it02:30:15
works if we see it in Antarctica we02:30:17
don't want to hear nothing you got to02:30:19
say about it because it can only work on02:30:21
the globe see they was looking for some02:30:23
kind of scop to end this whole debate02:30:26
anyway and this is what the final02:30:28
experiment is so here's here's the02:30:32
reality all right once they Chang the02:30:36
cosmology to a heliocentric model they02:30:39
had two problems one you had to make it02:30:42
a globe so oceans have to02:30:44
convex and two the Earth has to be02:30:47
rotating and orbiting in ellipse the02:30:52
fact is both of those things are02:30:54
physically02:30:55
impossible plain and simple so they're02:30:58
going to do everything they can to02:31:01
distract from that very simple point and02:31:04
keep our eyes on the sky which cannot be02:31:08
substantiated which cannot be measured02:31:11
see this is the issue the globe is02:31:14
debunked once you debunk the model it's02:31:17
gone there really is no flat Earth model02:31:19
model the original ztics over 120 years02:31:23
ago laid it all down no matter what you02:31:26
observe in the sky all physical02:31:29
observation shows that standing bodies02:31:32
of water are Level whether it's your02:31:35
bathtub your swimming pool the lake down02:31:38
the street or the Pacific02:31:40
Ocean that's facts so just to say that02:31:44
this observation and somehow proves02:31:46
their impossible model makes zero sense02:31:49
whatsoever ever it's simply an appeal to02:31:52
consensus and an appeal to Authority02:31:55
it's not backed by any evidence02:31:57
whatsoever this is the elephant in the02:31:59
room this is what globers consistently02:32:02
ignore they want to take us to Theory02:32:05
conjecture constantly but consistently02:32:10
ignore physical demonstration practical02:32:13
reality and applied physics that's the02:32:16
issue until they can show how Rivers can02:32:19
flow uphill Against Gravity there's no02:32:22
Globe as soon as they can show how there02:32:25
can be a rotating Earth without02:32:28
displacement of matter there's no Globe02:32:31
until they can show how you can have an02:32:33
atmosphere without a container there's02:32:36
no Globe these are the facts the globe02:32:39
never gets off the ground so to argue02:32:41
these points really make no sense the02:32:44
fundamentals remain that's why they02:32:47
spend so much energy on the02:32:50
Nation whether it's Hollywood NASA02:32:53
Academia on and on and on because the02:32:56
globe can only exists in your mind it's02:32:59
fanciful because it's literally02:33:00
impossible that's the facts plain and02:33:04
simple these are02:33:07
facts you cannot have a atmosphere02:33:10
that's based of gases on a globe and we02:33:14
ain't en closed just a lot of things02:33:16
that disprove the globe and one little02:33:19
observation is not going to stop all of02:33:22
that they don't want to deal with the02:33:23
things that we point out they want to02:33:26
make their own little you know false02:33:29
dichotomy go ahead salutes to02:33:31
every I something drop real quick yeah02:33:34
you got it hey hey bro they they losing02:33:38
so bad with this with this debate now02:33:40
and and you know the mainstream media02:33:43
makes it look like they winning this02:33:44
debate though but they losing this02:33:46
debate so bad bro like they're starting02:33:49
to put02:33:50
you know how um they had to had to02:33:53
change Admiral bird what he said after02:33:57
when he said it like they made a whole02:33:58
whole uh Story the hollow Earth theory02:34:01
after he died and [ __ ] but they starting02:34:03
to they starting to push that [ __ ] on02:34:05
Netflix right now bro like they're02:34:06
trying to push different um cosmologies02:34:10
because they don't even realize that mad02:34:12
people are realizing that the globe just02:34:14
don't fit it don't work it doesn't work02:34:17
in so many ways it it it it's it's02:34:19
flawed so they're trying to throw out02:34:22
different cosmologies out there they're02:34:24
trying to throw out different02:34:25
cosmologies out there right now they're02:34:27
uh like if you go to Netflix and look at02:34:28
that new Godzilla movie bro they're02:34:30
trying to they're trying to push the02:34:31
hollow Earth theory right02:34:39
now sometimes I believe sometimes I02:34:41
believe this is some Abyss type [ __ ] I'm02:34:45
above so below big a oh my bad sorry02:34:49
about that02:34:50
um where you know it's like the abyss or02:34:54
whatever and we in a big air pocket and02:34:56
this is all water and I could see the02:34:59
air pocket being a a globe but we still02:35:03
would be inside of the air pocket so02:35:05
still would be a cosmic egg so there's02:35:08
no way you can make the land and water02:35:11
round regardless now this just my theory02:35:14
and I'mma pass the mic here go my theory02:35:17
it's infinite it never end you go left02:35:21
right far as you want to go and you02:35:24
it'll never be a ending you know how02:35:26
they would say yeah would you fall off02:35:28
the side of the you'll fall off the side02:35:30
of no that's just when I look at the02:35:32
Flat Earth model that's just a little02:35:35
piece now I'm saying take that forever02:35:38
take that little disc we showing on with02:35:40
the ice wall and then make a billion ice02:35:44
walls meters apart from each other not02:35:46
meters but miles we can we can say a02:35:49
million miles and the ringer keep doing02:35:52
the ripple effect forever but yeah y'all02:35:55
got02:35:56
itute to the yeah Sal to the pan hey bro02:36:00
what's up man you know um you know this02:36:02
your boy EF man first of all I want to02:36:04
say Hey Big Ups on the new setup man I02:36:06
see you doing big things man02:36:09
um you know I I really I'm really not02:36:13
big on the The Flat Earth globe Earth02:36:15
debate in general but I am big on02:36:18
debates and um you know the ethics of02:36:21
debate um a lot so the the the point02:36:27
that I really had in the whole takeaway02:36:29
is is is there any level of concern02:36:35
about the shape of the Earth in the mind02:36:36
of flat earthers now here's my stance my02:36:39
stance is um on on on both sides there's02:36:43
a group of people who just won't been or02:36:46
won't even consider the other02:36:47
alternative02:36:49
false that's false that part false no no02:36:52
what I'm saying on both sides there are02:36:54
people I'm not saying that both sides02:36:56
neither would be in I'm saying on both02:36:58
both sides there are groups of people02:37:01
that won't be right well well hold up02:37:04
that's false though because the reason02:37:06
I'm saying that is because every Flat02:37:08
Earth that was born into the globe it02:37:11
ain't the other way around every flat02:37:14
earther was a globe earther before so it02:37:17
ain't like that we won't been is that02:37:20
that's all we ever knew and the moment02:37:22
we challenged it we found out just like02:37:24
everything else they lying to us about02:37:27
that so it ain't like we want being it's02:37:30
like saying a person that know two plus02:37:32
two you can't tell them it's five now02:37:36
now I know people don't if you don't02:37:38
think the earth flat you might not go02:37:40
with that analogy but that's what I'm02:37:42
saying it ain't like flat earthers won't02:37:45
B I mean most flat earthers know the02:37:47
globe better than the glob ber you know02:37:50
what I'm saying it was all we knew it02:37:52
was the first thing we were we was glob02:37:55
birthers for longer than we was flat02:37:57
earthers in our02:37:59
life so you that's true02:38:02
um you know yeah you know and I guess02:38:06
you know just for the sake of saying you02:38:07
can kind of say that every Globe earther02:38:10
was a flat earther when they was before02:38:13
they knew where the globe was no that's02:38:17
that's crazy02:38:20
bro that's crazy out my no bro no no bro02:38:25
hold up bro no hold02:38:28
up wait up what he just say bro02:38:33
he hold one second listen listen bro if02:38:36
a person born and raised in the church02:38:39
and that's all they know is the02:38:42
Bible you can't say that's the same as a02:38:47
person that didn't man like you you02:38:49
can't flip that around like the thing is02:38:53
we W born with nothing else but the02:38:56
globe and the flat earther know what02:38:58
it's like to be a globe earther but the02:39:00
globe earther don't have no idea what02:39:02
it's like to be a flat earther we've02:39:04
been on both sides and they haven't so02:39:07
you can't make that analogy the point is02:39:10
I've been on both sides it's like a02:39:12
Christian that left the church and found02:39:14
out hey that was a lie or found out02:39:17
something truth about it to took them02:39:20
Beyond being just a church believing02:39:22
Christian right I'm just saying though I02:39:26
I don't really want to go into a whole02:39:29
spill about how a globe birther is a02:39:32
flat earther because that is like to me02:39:35
is insulting because Globe hter hate us02:39:39
so much that they censoring us and02:39:42
spending millions of dollars to silence02:39:44
this thing and this is would be such a02:39:47
theoretical place to go when it to me I02:39:50
would rather you get back on cuz you was02:39:53
going somewhere originally you not you02:39:56
ain't gonna convince me that a globe bir02:39:58
or nothing like me but you can try I'm02:40:00
just telling you wasting your time on02:40:02
that okay okay hold on let me go look I02:40:05
got I got I got I got 10% battery I'm on02:40:08
my way to work I'm I'm gonna shoot this02:40:10
spill and I'm I'm G mute up and I'm G02:40:12
Drive okay I'm sitting in the parking02:40:14
lot me02:40:15
next here I go like I said you know for02:40:18
me this is in the of conversation just02:40:21
good conversation for me right I I don't02:40:24
have a dog in the fight I wouldn't care02:40:26
if the the the the the shape of the02:40:27
planet is a02:40:29
triangle here here's my02:40:31
thing by by the by the understanding02:40:34
that I've gain from listening to you02:40:37
mainly to you the Flat Earth um02:40:42
observation is that we see why would it02:40:45
be an observation because based off of02:40:48
what I've heard you say oh02:40:50
10 what eight n years you heard me02:40:53
definitely say it's the truth yeah it's02:40:56
it's the truth based off of what You02:40:57
observe whenever I talk to you about I I02:40:59
didn't say that I say it's the truth02:41:01
based on what I can measure and prove02:41:04
right that's what I say okay okay well02:41:07
based on what you can measure and prove02:41:09
now me and you had a debate and I said02:41:10
show me a model you pulled up pictures02:41:13
of the Earth being flat am I correct yep02:41:17
right I'm glad you brought that up cuz I02:41:19
didn't pull up the AE map when you asked02:41:21
me that I pulled up Horizon Lines you02:41:24
pulled up Horizon Lines I'm not going to02:41:26
lie on you I'm going keep that's my02:41:28
model and they and jar and them try to02:41:30
make it like the AE map my model that's02:41:33
just a symbol I use to show that hey the02:41:35
Earth is a flat circle we're enclosed in02:41:38
I after I say what I'm gonna say I'm02:41:40
gonna get into what uh zetic Warrior02:41:43
said it's gonna be quick it's gonna be02:41:44
like a minute I'm gonna give you one one02:41:46
quick minute okay so and and and other02:41:49
thing that you talk about is when you go02:41:52
outside the Earth is flat when you walk02:41:55
the Earth is flat when you walk around02:41:57
the corner you walk around the corner02:41:58
these are things that I hear you say so02:42:00
the reason I said that you could you can02:42:03
say that everybody was a flat earther02:42:06
because when you're young before02:42:07
somebody teaches you the globe the Earth02:42:09
is flat it's your natural observation02:42:11
I'mma tell you some I'mma tell you02:42:13
something right now I don't know how you02:42:14
was raised but when I first came into02:42:17
the world everybody my family told me02:42:20
that uh God and Jesus was real and that02:42:24
the Earth was a globe in space cuz I02:42:27
think you're trying to make it like well02:42:29
before they taught you the globe birth02:42:31
no it was no it was no before with me02:42:34
the moment and I was born learning about02:42:37
the globe it was no before they taught02:42:40
the Flat Earth that's the part where you02:42:42
making stuff up where ain't really true02:42:45
most people hold on hold on most people02:42:48
born in this country ain't no before02:42:51
they taught you the Bible bro I was02:42:53
raised with the Bible what you mean02:42:54
before all I knew was Christ the but I02:42:58
can't finish man listen the moment I was02:43:01
able to think and even formulate02:43:03
thoughts that's what they taught me even02:43:05
as a baby before I can even reason right02:43:09
so I don't understand this before period02:43:12
I just02:43:15
don't okay so as as for me myself02:43:18
personally I observed things before I02:43:20
was taught things I mean like when I was02:43:22
when I was little they wasn't teaching02:43:24
me about the shape of the earth they was02:43:25
teaching me my ABCs in one two02:43:28
threes and and when you went to school02:43:31
they taught you it was a globe right so02:43:34
that's when they taught me that's when I02:43:35
was indoctrinated into the globe but02:43:38
guess what when you when you when you02:43:39
went to school that was when you was02:43:41
able to formulate thoughts and stuff02:43:44
nobody was a li bited child saying I02:43:46
observe a flat Earth you wouldn't even02:43:48
think about no shape of the Earth as a02:43:50
child but the but the moment but the02:43:53
moment you started to think they told02:43:56
you it was a globe and I ain't F to let02:43:59
you sit up here and act like you was02:44:01
some special child that's better than02:44:03
the rest of us bro all of us guess what02:44:06
when we was children we W thinking about02:44:09
the shape of the earth and when we02:44:11
started thinking about the shape of the02:44:13
earth we thought about it as a globe02:44:15
because that's what they taught us and02:44:16
it ain't nothing else you can say ain't02:44:18
no way around that that's how it was for02:44:21
everybody and I'm speaking for you too I02:44:23
don't believe you if you say anything02:44:25
else I don't believe you man so we just02:44:27
got to agree to disagree but you can02:44:29
make your point I don't think it was02:44:32
ever a time before you knew like it I02:44:35
was born into the lie and I didn't get02:44:37
the truth to later in my life so I02:44:41
figured out I I never had a time in my02:44:44
life where I can say yeah man when I was02:44:47
a little bitty baby I had the truth02:44:49
before they taught me to lie I can't say02:44:52
that because when I was a little bitty02:44:53
baby I didn't even know what the hell02:44:55
the truth02:44:57
was I knew what toys and candy was02:45:01
that's it when I start thinking about02:45:03
what the truth is and what the Earth is02:45:05
by then I was in school and some teacher02:45:08
was telling me some bull02:45:10
crap hey the first time I ever thought02:45:13
of shout out to my brother Mar my bad go02:45:16
ahead drop uh the first time I ever02:45:19
thought of what the shape of the Earth02:45:21
was was in kindergarten I walked into02:45:24
the classroom and they had a globe and I02:45:26
was spinning it and the teacher said02:45:29
don't touch that it had ridges on Africa02:45:32
it had all kind of things and I was02:45:33
looking at it like this where we live02:45:36
that's the first time I ever thought02:45:38
about the shape of a a earth or anything02:45:42
hair drop so so so so once I saw the02:45:45
globe I was convinced I was studying02:45:48
Neptune02:45:49
Mars I was studying how all the planets02:45:52
supposed to rotate into the02:45:55
sun that's believable that's now when I02:45:58
hear a story like that I say okay I can02:46:01
relate to that that's the type stuff I02:46:03
went through but I I can't believe a02:46:06
person that try to act like they better02:46:08
like than02:46:12
was bro because I'm I'm not saying I was02:46:15
thinking about the sh you trying to make02:46:17
it like you had the truth as a child and02:46:20
you want indate I know we're not talking02:46:23
about what I'm trying to make it like02:46:24
what I'm doing is saying for the sake of02:46:27
conversation for the sake of truth bro02:46:29
for the sake of Truth for the sake of02:46:31
Truth for for the sake of Truth when you02:46:33
walk you walk on a flat when you walk02:46:34
you walk on a flat surface somebody told02:46:37
you hey you walking on the flat surface02:46:38
but the Earth is the world is round you02:46:40
didn't care about the shape of the world02:46:42
until somebody told you about it that's02:46:43
what I'm saying so about the observation02:46:46
was everything is flat then somebody02:46:48
told you but yeah but it's round and02:46:50
then you like okay your mind is blown so02:46:52
let me let me move on from that because02:46:53
this is a my new point but what I'm02:46:55
talking about is different the02:46:58
construction listen what I'm saying what02:47:00
I'm talking about is the construction of02:47:01
a conversation follow me without the02:47:04
argument you neglect our journey when02:47:05
you do that bro no no no no no you you02:47:08
neglecting my journey02:47:11
because you're you're neglecting my02:47:13
journey because what I'm saying as an02:47:15
intellectual what I'm saying is I can02:47:17
have a logical conversation without an02:47:19
argument based off of rational thought02:47:22
what I'm02:47:23
saying and all I'm saying is is that02:47:26
over the progression of time we've all02:47:27
been Indo indoctrinated into lies you02:47:30
had no information about the Earth until02:47:33
the only thing you knew is that I'm02:47:35
learning how to walk my shoes is flat02:47:37
you didn't even know what flat was but02:47:39
you observed you was able to walk02:47:40
straight true that's not true though bro02:47:42
you didn't even know what the word flat02:47:44
was bro somebody taught you the word02:47:46
flat listen bro you had your senses bro02:47:49
but the word somebody you what the word02:47:52
me the point is he missing a point the02:47:56
point is we all grew up indoctrinated02:47:59
with the lie and we had to find out the02:48:01
truth later in life on our own because02:48:04
this world don't teach you the truth02:48:06
that was my point that was the whole02:48:08
point I I agree with that bro that's02:48:10
what I'm saying I I agree with that 100%02:48:13
but this is where I'm trying to get02:48:16
to just like you said you02:48:19
your02:48:20
model is what you showed me right now02:48:24
you go to a brother like uh zic Warrior02:48:27
who said there is no flat Earth model02:48:30
and the globe has a model that can be02:48:33
debunked right and long as soon as you02:48:36
debunk the model the globe is disproved02:48:39
now all I'm saying is for me for me as a02:48:42
listener as a side no in objective side02:48:47
no what I'm telling you is it is right02:48:49
they have a model we don't because the02:48:52
reason they got a model cuz they saying02:48:55
you can't see the curve from the ground02:48:57
so they got to produce an example in a02:48:59
computer to show you what the Earth02:49:02
would look like as a ball but yet they02:49:04
supposed to have a real picture of it02:49:06
that's a whole another story but they02:49:08
have excuses for why they have to02:49:11
produce a quote unquote model and we02:49:14
don't need a model because we just tell02:49:16
people look go outside and you measure02:49:19
the ground flat we not telling people if02:49:22
you get off the ground it becomes a ball02:49:25
the moment you say that you need a model02:49:27
and some math to make that make sense02:49:30
right and that's when you start going02:49:32
into all of these theories and and all02:49:34
of that stuff that we easily debunk but02:49:36
if we're saying hey it's flat because we02:49:39
measure it flat from the ground and we02:49:42
ain't making no other claims then we02:49:44
just got to go out there and prove it's02:49:45
flat on the ground now if somebody say02:49:48
what duh is flat on the ground but it's02:49:51
really just a big ball now that's a02:49:53
belief I can't prove that this turn that02:49:56
what turns into the belief part no I and02:49:59
that's and I get that so all I'm saying02:50:01
is when you having these kind of02:50:03
conversations I would I would I would02:50:06
wonder if at some point somebody who02:50:10
knows that the Earth is flat do they02:50:12
ever question that and if you never02:50:16
question it you're being disingenuous02:50:19
that's not true man that's not02:50:23
true is you the globeo like when you02:50:26
when you are indoctrinated with the idea02:50:29
of the globe just like because like when02:50:30
you said you was trying to make the02:50:32
point about we all was flat earthers02:50:34
before we were globas and that wasn't02:50:35
true and and bro Sanchez gave you02:50:38
examples why that wasn't true and then02:50:40
you had to change it right so if we all02:50:42
indoctrinated we all globers first the02:50:45
minute we have the thought and go into02:50:47
school and it got to02:50:49
globe in every classroom that's the02:50:51
first thing you see when you walk into02:50:52
the class so you can't call me02:50:55
disingenuous when I have already02:50:57
questioned what the hell I was do02:50:59
indoctrinated with and now that I didn't02:51:01
question it and I didn't did the02:51:03
research and I didn't did the study and02:51:04
I watch lectures and other people who02:51:08
you know uh give you all types of02:51:09
information as to why they you know the02:51:11
Earth is flat you're sitting up here02:51:13
telling us to question our our uh our02:51:16
thoughts of everything that we that we02:51:18
put up against the globe you know what02:51:20
I'm saying and the same time you saying02:51:22
that to us you really should be saying02:51:23
that to globers because they were the02:51:25
people who indoctrinated who were02:51:27
indoctrinated and then they're02:51:28
continuing to hold on to the02:51:30
indoctrination by not questioning what02:51:32
they was taught to believe since02:51:35
the let me get the right here real quick02:51:38
hold on a second F I gotta take a02:51:41
commercial break and uh respect the02:51:43
people that's supporting the show give02:51:45
me about 30 seconds shout out to Adam02:51:47
McMahon that Super Chat thank you sir02:51:51
shout out to uh my brother iron work02:51:53
make sure y'all sub up to iron work's02:51:56
channel to stay up to date with the02:51:58
final experiment and to follow us along02:52:01
with these with these crazy series of02:52:03
events he got a good uh you know02:52:06
community over there he building shout02:52:08
out to him he said bro Sanchez thanks02:52:10
for coming to the show please come up at02:52:12
any time and be part of the panel for02:52:15
sure shout out to ew thank you so much02:52:19
said if they are going to use your life02:52:21
on the line then that sounds like the02:52:23
government saying in the name of02:52:25
National Security we can lie and deceive02:52:28
they playing that's interesting I'm02:52:30
going have to meditate on that one more02:52:34
bar thank you so much says salutes to Z02:52:38
as well keep up the good work bro yeah02:52:41
salutes to zic Warrior shout out to chk02:52:45
dg8 said bro you're monetized hell yeah02:52:48
man congrats hey appreciate that02:52:51
man we are shout out to John 144 thank02:52:55
you so much sir shout out to flat out02:52:58
fudge as well he said also if you were02:53:00
born a certain time the movies got you02:53:03
before school and this debate really is02:53:06
just a matter of propaganda versus02:53:08
fundamental understanding thank y'all so02:53:12
much go ahead guys 25,000 Home Depot02:53:18
no I I was just saying I do pose the02:53:21
same ideas to anybody that I speak to02:53:24
about the conversation I'm not just02:53:25
because because I'm not against either02:53:27
side hold on man you're acting like02:53:29
there P I just want to push a honest02:53:32
conversation when you have a debate not02:53:35
to be one-sided and not to be one track02:53:37
mind that's all that I'm saying and and02:53:40
who are straw man and everybody here man02:53:43
look nobody's being one track look once02:53:45
you once you find out that's look man02:53:47
once you find out Santa Claus isn't real02:53:49
you can never think he's real again it's02:53:52
once I found out that Hulk Hogan and02:53:53
Macho Man were drinking beer after the02:53:55
wrestling matches I never could think02:53:57
it's real again man once you discover a02:54:00
lie is a lie it's gone so that's what02:54:03
the globe is man so you're trying to02:54:05
give it equal weight and it the same02:54:07
thing jiren's doing it's it's the same02:54:09
scop when something's impossible it02:54:12
can't be possible anymore that's it and02:54:18
and and now hold on one second let's say02:54:21
okay we found out the globe ain't02:54:23
possible and let's say well somebody02:54:26
actually think Flat Earth ain't possible02:54:28
either it still ain't equal weight02:54:31
because the flat earthers still have02:54:34
done the research on both models the02:54:36
globe Earth only done enough research on02:54:39
the flat earther model to try to debunk02:54:42
it you see that's my thing is like if a02:54:46
person know the globe model and they say02:54:48
I know the globe model in and out I'm02:54:51
fascinated with space and it breaks02:54:53
their heart because they learned ancient02:54:55
cosmology and they find out ancient02:54:58
cosmology is actually the truth for02:55:01
example like in this image The Sun Ain't02:55:03
93 million M miles away we can see it02:55:07
right there in the clouds now my mind02:55:09
start to look at the world different and02:55:12
I start to see reality the way the02:55:14
ancestors saw it and I love this new way02:55:17
of knowing that the stars is close the02:55:20
sky ain't that high up ain't no scary02:55:23
space in between me and the you know the02:55:26
heavens and all that but my whole thing02:55:28
beyond that is that it's not equal02:55:31
weight because most people know the02:55:34
globe since they was born and they going02:55:36
to die knowing that if you're a flat02:55:39
earther and even if the Earth ain't flat02:55:42
you still know something other than what02:55:44
you was told so let's say the Flat Earth02:55:47
wrong and the glob wrong you still know02:55:50
more than the global he can't say02:55:52
factually that the Flat Earth wrong cuz02:55:54
he didn't research it you can cancel it02:55:57
out and say well the Earth ain't a globe02:55:59
the Earth ain't flat but let me keep02:56:01
moving and seeing what else it is he02:56:04
can't cancel out the second one so02:56:06
either way it go it ain't an equal02:56:08
weight because one person learned two02:56:11
different things and one person only02:56:13
know what we all leared our whole life a02:56:16
globalist ain't teaching me nothing knew02:56:18
when they teach me about gravity and the02:56:21
globe like I didn't fail science class02:56:23
bro I was in the Air Force bro I can02:56:26
teach the globe02:56:27
myself I'm teaching the globalist02:56:30
something new when I'm teaching them02:56:32
about the Flat Earth so it's never equal02:56:34
weight shout out to02:56:36
Barnes and Barnes I'm about to read your02:56:39
Super Chat and I'mma turn the mic over02:56:41
says do y'all think it's possible that02:56:44
jiren and Austin we see post the final02:56:47
spirit02:56:49
okay we see post TF are really just deep02:56:53
fakes both of their personalities02:56:56
changed after the trip not just their02:56:58
perceptions change it is possible they02:57:00
are deep fakes they ain't deep fakes now02:57:03
I'mma tell you what's so funny about the02:57:05
word deep fake right they are deep fakes02:57:08
but they ain't deep fakes because when02:57:10
you think about a deep fake you thinking02:57:12
about a computer animation they ain't02:57:15
one of those but they are some fakers02:57:18
who are wolves and sheep clothes and02:57:20
they are deeply implanted within us as02:57:23
if they're one of us so they are deep02:57:25
fakes but they not deep fakes if y'all02:57:28
know what I mean drop a one on that in02:57:30
the chat room for sure for sure flat02:57:33
power bro look I want to add something02:57:35
to this uh to this to this bro hey look02:57:38
to those that don't know look man this a02:57:39
new era flat power man man we ain't02:57:42
going for all that bro look man we02:57:44
standing on this we learned the Crab02:57:46
Nebula first now we standing on Hebrew02:57:48
Cosmos bro if you don't know about the02:57:50
journey bro I mean I really don't02:57:53
understand the foundation is not coming02:57:55
down it's too late for the movement we02:57:57
are here bring on all the attacks hey02:58:00
man we run over everybody man real yeah02:58:02
a nothing that's fact hey bro hey bro02:58:06
hey salute to the panel I didn't mean to02:58:08
cut you off Lord hey look I just got a02:58:10
question man I I was looking at the02:58:13
video you got on the screen or whatever02:58:14
man I just I don't know too much about02:58:16
cameras or whatever but I just want to02:58:18
add how do they keep the sun cented you02:58:21
know I mean in that you know I mean what02:58:25
happened it's a lot of questions I got02:58:27
about that video bro I'll pull it I'mma02:58:29
pull it back up for02:58:32
y'all yeah man like like I don't know02:58:35
too much about cameras man but how how02:58:37
they keep the camera centered and they02:58:39
they following it you know what I02:58:41
mean what they got these 360 cams is one02:58:46
thing I do know and they a to do that02:58:48
but let me pull this up real quick hold02:58:51
on yeah they got them tracking cams can02:58:53
y'all hear me02:58:55
yeah hey02:58:57
man to be hold on hold on bro I've been02:58:59
waiting02:59:01
for I got I just got a quick question02:59:04
yeah go02:59:05
ahead hey uh I me personally man I don't02:59:08
even believe that they witness the02:59:10
24hour son because it's things about02:59:12
this guy that we do know for a fact like02:59:15
we do know where our GPS comes from02:59:18
comes from the vortex in the center the02:59:20
North Pole we do know that the sky does02:59:23
spin like a clock that's the wheel IDescription:
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