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I find that I'm [music]00:00:05
leaving.00:00:08
Ever since David Betts emerged on the00:00:10
scene with a series of interviews00:00:13
screaming about civil war, I have poured00:00:17
cold water on the idea and even wrote an00:00:21
article about it in Chronicles magazine00:00:23
to which he responded on Twitter calling00:00:26
it a silly little article to which I00:00:29
responded, "Okay, but when there's not a00:00:31
civil war, will you come back and00:00:33
apologize? I mean, you're the one making00:00:35
the outrageous claim, not me. I simply00:00:39
look at the logistics, the organization,00:00:42
and ask, "Well, who's going to make it00:00:44
happen?" When it turns out that there is00:00:46
more to this story than meets the eye.00:00:50
Uh, two buddies of mine, friend uh,00:00:53
Scrump and Eivelyn, they did a stream00:00:57
last week, an excellent stream, even by00:00:59
their standards. I think it was a00:01:01
mustwatch where they really went to town00:01:04
uh looking at the backgrounds and the00:01:06
detail on Bets and what he's been up to.00:01:10
Another00:01:12
uh interview uh took place. I've already00:01:15
mentioned it, the Nick Griffin one. We00:01:17
did a video on him versus Steve Laws00:01:20
recently, but the Nick Griffin uh00:01:22
interview, he also went into detail on00:01:26
bets. And in this video, I'm going to00:01:30
just share some of the info and play a00:01:32
couple of clips to direct you uh and00:01:35
encourage you to watch these two00:01:36
streams. Um before we get going though,00:01:40
pick up a course at the academic agency00:01:42
trivia. Buy it now. When we come back,00:01:45
we're going to talk all about the Civil00:01:47
War SCOP.00:01:57
>> [music]00:02:04
>> logic00:02:07
writing00:02:12
rhetoric00:02:16
driven by00:02:21
order now from the academic agency. Here00:02:31
we need to come on to Professor Betts00:02:32
because this actually fits in. That's00:02:33
true. >> So I don't know what proportion of your00:02:35
audience will know about him.00:02:36
>> No. So Professor Betts is a um scholar00:02:39
in King's College London. You tell the00:02:41
people a bit more about him.00:02:42
>> Right. Well, he's more than just a00:02:43
scholar. He's the head of the war and00:02:45
something rather sociological type um00:02:48
faculty there.00:02:50
>> And King's College London has a special00:02:51
relationship with the British Ministry00:02:53
of Defense.00:02:54
uh again with the figure of some 40 I00:02:56
think 42 million uh contract to provide00:03:00
all the political and sort of00:03:02
geopolitical education for the officer00:03:05
class for the British military00:03:07
intelligence and for high level civil00:03:09
servants uh and he's a key figure in00:03:11
that now a few months ago he started00:03:13
going on all the main right-wing00:03:15
podcasts and so on and then being picked00:03:17
up by the likes of Tommy saying there's00:03:18
a civil war coming yeah00:03:20
>> with the Muslims and the rest of us uh00:03:22
and his analysis I'm Now whether it's00:03:24
right or wrong we must come on to. So00:03:26
>> professor David Betts who in the00:03:27
department of war studies at King's00:03:29
College London. >> Yeah.00:03:30
>> So his position is there going to be a00:03:33
civil war and he says that because it's00:03:35
not just Britain but also France uh00:03:38
Belgium, Germany, Sweden, there's so00:03:40
many countries unstable according to him00:03:42
with this uh Muslim others divide that00:03:45
it's going to kick off in one of them.00:03:46
When it does it will spread. So00:03:48
therefore he says basically it's a a00:03:49
racing certainty we're going to have a00:03:50
civil war war within the next five00:03:52
years.00:03:53
Uh now if he'd said that and he was just00:03:58
speaking off the top of his own head00:04:01
that would have been very rapidly00:04:02
stopped. Someone would had a word with00:04:04
him. So he can't be saying this. But00:04:06
he's continued saying it. Uh and he said00:04:09
in more and more extreme terms over the00:04:11
last few months. So the latest stuff00:04:12
he's coming up with uh he's endorsing a00:04:15
an online document which is positively00:04:18
psychotic about what it's it's no longer00:04:22
a a prediction of civil war. It's00:04:25
telling uh the side which he describes00:04:26
as pitchfork the indigenous Brits. It's00:04:28
telling them how to fight it and00:04:30
actually also telling them if you read00:04:32
it carefully it's basically telling look00:04:33
as long as you start this you're going00:04:35
to win for this for reasons A B C and D.00:04:37
I don't think it's right.00:04:38
>> Crown Cresant Pitchfork. That's it. By00:04:40
by a gentleman called Eling.00:04:42
>> Yes. Uh it's to be found on a website,00:04:45
the Gates of Vienna, which I uh fingered00:04:49
back in 2012. It was very close to the00:04:51
early stages of the Tommy Robinson00:04:53
thing. It was created by the exact same00:04:56
uh center of vigilant freedom, which was00:04:59
a one of the sub things run by a man00:05:01
called Frank Gaffne00:05:02
>> who was a gopher for Dick Cheney. So00:05:05
yes, it's Zionist neocon, but it's much00:05:07
closer to the uh the American deep state00:05:11
than say the multi-millionaire liquid00:05:14
nicks who now back Tommy and the00:05:16
Heritage Foundation, etc., etc. So00:05:17
there's something quite deep going on00:05:18
here.00:05:19
>> I'd say in this context that, you know,00:05:21
he is the counter in insurgent00:05:22
propagandist and00:05:24
>> yes, >> what is all this civil war stuff about?00:05:26
It's about making people It's about00:05:27
ident it's it's getting people to00:05:29
identify themselves basically.00:05:30
>> Yes. Insurgency. And in 2023, he00:05:33
something changes. He pops up with quite00:05:37
frankly one of the most ridiculous00:05:40
social science papers I have ever seen.00:05:43
I'm not going to read this through. I'm00:05:45
just going to read this bit which I put00:05:47
out earlier as the prime. You talked00:05:49
about this before I think on the stream00:05:50
about it00:05:51
>> because like David Betts is David Betts00:05:54
thinks you are [ __ ] [ __ ] and and00:05:56
the problem is that many of you are00:06:01
>> you know I'll put it I'll put it on00:06:02
screen with [ __ ] yeah there it is. I00:06:04
have attempted to assess the mood and00:06:06
amorphous plans of inseparate00:06:08
revolutionaries as cons through00:06:10
consistent lurking over a decade on the00:06:12
anonymous image boards 4chan and 8chan00:06:15
poll a range of Twitter and telegram00:06:18
channels and websites and surprisingly00:06:20
usefully the user review sections of00:06:22
controversial books on Amazon and good00:06:24
readads. Uh00:06:25
>> well admittedly unsistatic at least he's00:06:28
not reading them from wlings. My00:06:30
impressions are broadly in accord with00:06:32
those of other researchers of extremist00:06:34
groups, notably the Southern Poverty Law00:06:37
Center and the International Center for00:06:39
the Study of Radicalization,00:06:40
>> which is just his little vertical at00:06:42
King's [ __ ] College. [laughter]00:06:44
>> He's self-referencing there.00:06:46
>> Dissolved September 2025. That though,00:06:49
that's interesting.00:06:50
>> Folded into another little department.00:06:52
>> I was going to see what that be00:06:53
reformulated into. But this yeah this is00:06:55
where David Betts you know Mary00:06:58
Harrington everyone who platformed David00:07:01
Betts David Betts got his civil war00:07:04
framework from reading 4chan eight the00:07:08
hacker known as for who is this hacker00:07:10
known as 4chan uh 8chan uh Twitter00:07:14
telegram basically he's re he's00:07:16
repackaging [ __ ] posts to say there's00:07:18
going to be a civil war stupid if you00:07:20
read the literature what a lot of these00:07:22
people say is that well you can't use00:07:25
this not during wartime. What's David00:07:27
Betts doing? He's going out there and00:07:30
reframing disorder and the disaffected00:07:32
opinions to do with immigration as an00:07:35
insurgency. There is no organized00:07:38
resistance to mass immigration in00:07:40
Britain and that's a huge problem. But00:07:43
David Betts would like to not only00:07:44
portray it as organized but so organized00:07:47
that it would cause a civil conflict.00:07:49
The reason that David Betts says civil00:07:52
war is that so he can portray it as an00:07:55
insurgency because he is a00:07:57
counterinsurgency expert and his00:07:59
insurgency comes from [ __ ] posts on00:08:02
4chan. That's how [ __ ] stupid you00:08:04
are. All of you out there who are David00:08:07
Betts, David Betts, you're wrong about00:08:09
David. Look at this. Look at how stupid00:08:12
you are. If you listen to David Betts,00:08:16
look at what you got hoodwinkedked with.00:08:18
He's either an idiot. He's a boomer00:08:20
who's sat there reading for 4ch going,00:08:23
"Oh, well, I think there's going to be a00:08:24
civil war." Or he's a counterinsurgency00:08:27
expert who's trying to get you to have a00:08:30
controlled reaction because what is a00:08:32
counterinsurgency00:08:34
without an insurgency?00:08:37
All right. So, what is the story in a00:08:40
nutshell? Well, it turns out that David00:08:42
Betts works in some capacity for the00:08:46
British state and not just the British00:08:48
state, the security state. He has the00:08:50
same sort of like counter intelligence00:08:54
background as Goodwin and and various00:08:56
other uh containment agents really. And00:09:01
Betts um has published a few papers that00:09:06
are quite alarming. you know, he's I00:09:10
mean, from the from what Nick Griffin00:09:12
was saying and from what Scrump and00:09:13
Evelyn have said, he's actually00:09:16
detailing tactics and battle plans and00:09:19
telling people, you know, well, if it00:09:21
came to it, here's exactly how you'd do00:09:24
it. Here's how you'd knock out the00:09:25
electricity grid and all this sort of00:09:27
stuff. I mean, if if [clears throat]00:09:29
anybody if any normal person was posting00:09:32
this sort of stuff, let's say they were00:09:34
doing it on Telegram or they were doing00:09:36
it on Twitter, they'd very quickly be00:09:39
arrested by MI5 uh or, you know, they'd00:09:42
have a knock on the door, they'd have00:09:43
their equipment confiscated and they'd00:09:45
be like, "Well, hold on a second. You're00:09:48
probably going to get nicked for, you00:09:49
know, encouraging terrorism or something00:09:51
like that." But David Betts, he's doing00:09:53
it in broad daylight and he's doing it,00:09:56
you know, on fairly mainstream uh00:09:58
platforms as well. He's be he's being00:10:00
signal boosted. He's being amplified.00:10:03
You know, everybody has this narrative00:10:05
in their mind now. Everybody's seen him.00:10:07
Everybody knows his name. Everybody00:10:09
everybody uh kind of, you know, is on00:10:12
this narrative course of saying, well,00:10:15
yes, now there's going to be a civil00:10:16
war, which all is extremely fishy. And00:10:21
uh00:10:23
what I think now is absolutely certain00:10:27
is that there is some sort of operation00:10:31
to try to encourage this to happen or at00:10:34
least try to like will it into00:10:37
existence, give it a nudge. Okay. Um,00:10:40
what was interesting about the Griffin00:10:43
uh interview is that he suggested that00:10:46
it was the it wasn't necessarily00:10:49
a Zionist plot. It wasn't like the00:10:51
Tommy, you know, the same people that00:10:53
Tommy works for. Wasn't necessarily the00:10:55
Israeli government. Griffin thinks that00:10:57
it is the American00:11:00
uh defense, the American uh military00:11:04
that is pushing this. And of course, if00:11:06
it's the American military, the British00:11:08
military is attached to it. So the00:11:10
American defense and British defense are00:11:12
like that according to Griffin. And he00:11:15
thinks that this is where this is coming00:11:17
from. So I mean it's kind of like like00:11:20
why would any00:11:23
military wish to foster civil conflict00:11:27
within their own country? Kind of like00:11:29
quite baffling if you think about it.00:11:31
Um, but it does seem like they're00:11:34
encouraging something like this.00:11:36
Griffin's idea is that it is a divide00:11:40
and conquer strategy that they don't00:11:42
want people looking they want people00:11:45
facing at each other rather than facing00:11:47
at the elites. Maybe that is true. Um,00:11:53
who knows? I mean, it could be uh uh00:11:59
more of a kind of ins snare policy where00:12:02
you get you kind of scop people into00:12:05
this sort of mindset and then it makes00:12:07
them easier to arrest down the line or00:12:08
makes them easier to round up or to00:12:11
censor or to target or to I mean one of00:12:15
the things um that they used to do in uh00:12:20
I mean a lot of people have been talking00:12:21
about Frank Kiten and counter00:12:24
intelligence and I think the Scrump and00:12:26
Evil stream was uh was about that. Uh00:12:30
they used to keep uh Kitson used to keep00:12:33
a codeex index of all of the people. So00:12:36
if you can imagine, you know, you're00:12:38
you're you're setting up this counter00:12:40
gang and you keep tabs on all of the00:12:44
people. You know, here's Johnny and00:12:45
here's Dave and here's uh you know, Paul00:12:49
Paul Smith or or whatever. And you keep00:12:52
an index of every single person and he00:12:55
and he had it, you know, in those days00:12:57
it was in paper. He had it like on a00:12:59
roll on a roller deck. So there was a00:13:01
there was a card index of every single00:13:04
operative who was involved. They had the00:13:07
entire network mapped. So then if they00:13:12
wanted to damage the operation, they00:13:14
could target. Well, look, this Paul00:13:16
Smith, he is going off the reservation.00:13:18
He's causing a problem. isolate Paul00:13:21
Smith, make sure we get him in a prison00:13:24
or something that will damage those00:13:26
operations, then we can steer it in this00:13:28
direction. Okay, that is the nature of00:13:31
counterinsurgency.00:13:33
Okay, and the the kits and doctrine. But00:13:36
of course, in the modern era, uh there00:13:41
it's not going to be card indexes. It's00:13:43
going to be digital. Okay, the digital00:13:46
mapping, the network of digit digital00:13:49
networks. They're going to keep the kits00:13:51
and map in that sort of way. And what00:13:56
better way to do it than to encourage00:13:58
everybody to go on Elon Musk's X site,00:14:02
Twitter, so that they can track in real00:14:04
time who talks to who, what sort of00:14:07
plans are being made, etc. And then what00:14:10
you've got is a perfect network map of00:14:13
all of the different nodes. And then it00:14:16
will be very easy to insert00:14:19
narratives into that. And the whole00:14:22
purpose is not to break the network00:14:25
apart, but to use the network to further00:14:29
whatever ends it is that the British00:14:31
state has in mind. So let's say you've00:14:34
got the I'm going to I've got my00:14:36
whiteboard here. Maybe I'll uh I'll do00:14:40
it in real time. Hold on. Let's say00:14:44
So, let's say you've got like a network00:14:48
of individuals on Twitter that's a00:14:50
little bit like this. This is the00:14:52
central hub of it. You isolate that00:14:55
person there. You get your own guy in00:14:58
there. You or you, I don't know, start00:15:01
get it like Yeah. get this guy to attack00:15:03
this guy to cause a you know, to cause a00:15:06
conflict or something. There's all sorts00:15:08
of ways they can disrupt it. But even00:15:10
more uh importantly, if you can get that00:15:15
guy there on side, now you control the00:15:18
network. And and this is this really is00:15:23
the purpose of doing a lot of this00:15:25
counter insurgency stuff. It's how they00:15:28
think. And what's interesting if you00:15:30
watch the Scrump and Evening stream is00:15:33
that uh Betton Co. directly are citing00:15:37
the likes of uh Frank Kitson uh in their00:15:41
in their writings. At some point the00:15:43
references to Kitson go away, but it's00:15:45
the exact same uh playbook. 77th Brigade00:15:50
uh comes to comes to replace Kiten, but00:15:53
it's the exact same idea. You you know00:15:56
you you find it I mean you you find a00:16:00
group of people incidents whatever and00:16:03
then slowly over time you gain control00:16:06
over those things for your own nefarious00:16:08
nefarious end whatever they may be. And00:16:12
one of the ways uh to bring it all out00:16:15
into the open is to foster some sort of00:16:18
conflict, some sort of civil conflict,00:16:22
low inensity conflict, whatever you call00:16:24
it. But that is, you know, you could00:16:27
summize what the bets idea is up to. Uh,00:16:31
you know, so this is a a slightly00:16:33
different idea from Griffin's divide and00:16:36
conquer uh strategy, although it is a00:16:38
also a form of divide and conquer. If00:16:41
you imagine00:16:43
um that this is going on, let's say00:16:46
these are right-wingers, okay? One of00:16:49
the one of the groups that the British00:16:51
state doesn't like. And then you have00:16:54
over here, this is a Muslim network. So,00:16:58
we've got a Muslim network over here.00:17:00
And I talked recently in a different00:17:02
video about the Muslim network and about00:17:05
how00:17:07
um you know, they keep the Muslim00:17:09
council out and and things like that.00:17:11
Well, you can bet your bottom dollar00:17:14
that let's say this is some Muslim00:17:16
network over here. you know, they didn't00:17:19
like Nick Griffin talking to the Muslim00:17:21
guy two years ago. That was something00:17:23
that was mentioned. So, they don't want00:17:25
these two groups getting together or00:17:28
making plans or, you know, they want00:17:30
these two groups at odds with each00:17:33
other, but also00:17:36
they need to also control this middle00:17:39
Muslim guy here and get that under00:17:42
there. So in the end you've got two00:17:45
counter gangs fighting each other which00:17:47
is the always the ideal for uh you know00:17:52
the permanent security state. That's00:17:53
their ideal state of affairs. So um yeah00:17:57
and they'll use a variety of methods to00:17:59
get there. So very interesting stuff. I00:18:03
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video is direct you to watch the00:18:06
Scrumpant Evening Stream and to watch00:18:08
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How can I save a frame from a video "David Betz and The Civil War Psy-Op"?
This feature is available in the UDL Helper extension. Make sure that "Show the video snapshot button" is checked in the settings. A camera icon should appear in the lower right corner of the player to the left of the "Settings" icon. When you click on it, the current frame from the video will be saved to your computer in JPEG format.
How do I play and download streaming video?
- in video formats, hover your mouse over "Streaming Video**";
- right-click on "Copy link";
- open VLC-player;
- select Media - Open Network Stream - Network in the menu;
- paste the copied link into the input field;
- click "Play".
- copy the video address (URL);
- select "Open Network Stream" in the "Media" item of VLC player and paste the link to the video into the input field;
- click on the arrow on the "Play" button and select "Convert" in the list;
- select "Video - H.264 + MP3 (MP4)" in the "Profile" line;
- click the "Browse" button to select a folder to save the converted video and click the "Start" button;
- conversion speed depends on the resolution and duration of the video.
For this purpose you need VLC-player, which can be downloaded for free from the official website https://www.videolan.org/vlc/.
How to play streaming video through VLC player:
To download streaming video via VLC player, you need to convert it:
Warning: this download method no longer works with most YouTube videos.
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