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    Donald Trump's improbable return to the
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    White House took another huge step
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    forward of the weekend as he crushed
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    Nikki Haley in the Republican primary in
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    a home state of South Carolina the
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    former president didn't even need to
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    turn up for the results choosing instead
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    to give another one of his barnstorming
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    rally speeches to the conservative party
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    action conference and as usual he didn't
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    hold back a vote for Trump is your
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    ticket back to Freedom it's your
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    passport out of tyranny and it's your
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    only escape from Joe Biden and his gangs
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    fast track to hell and in many ways
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    we're living in hell right now well
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    Nationwide poll suggests Trump is on
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    track to beat President Biden November's
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    election so can anything stop him and
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    what will Trump the sequel mean for
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    America and the world here's a debate we
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    have one of Trump's most vocal critics
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    the hugely influential YouTube political
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    commentator Destiny and the host of
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    fearless on outkick Tommy Len okay
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    Destiny um you voted for Joe Biden last
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    time I think it's safe to to assume you
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    won't be voting for Donald Trump this
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    time but are you comfortable voting for
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    Biden given the state that he now
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    appears to be
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    in every time somebody attacks Biden on
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    his senility I feel like that is a
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    stronger indictment of Trump's own
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    failure as a president I do agree that
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    Biden definitely seems to have slowed
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    down in his older age but I mean he
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    passed so much more legislation than
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    Trump I think our foreign policy aims
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    are better than they were under Trump
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    and I think the way that he manages the
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    rhetoric and the overall attitude of the
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    country is way more responsible than
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    Trump as well and he's not facing 90
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    plus criminal indictments so that that
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    may well be true uh but the reality is
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    perception is often half the battle with
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    election campaign the perception is that
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    Donald Trump is a little bit younger but
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    has twice the energy twice the dynamism
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    and all the stuff that's being thrown at
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    him far from defeating him as is usually
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    the case of politicians has empowered
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    him and made him stronger what are the
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    Democrats going to do about that come
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    November
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    I think all Democrats can kind of hope
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    for is that the perception of the
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    economy continues to increase uh
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    consumer sentiment is starting to climb
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    again I think that Trump is also
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    stumbling into a few misspeaks on his
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    own I think there was that clip of him
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    mixing up uh Nikki Haley and Pelosi
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    there was him talking about I think it
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    was the deserts of Vietnam uh both of
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    these guys are definitely uh I'd say
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    hitting their older age their golden
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    years so I don't know if Trump is going
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    to be free of any of the misspeaks that
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    Biden has found himself stumbling into
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    recently as well well Tommy let's just
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    play a clip this is of trump doing his
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    his Biden impression uh the other day
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    when I imitate Biden who can't find the
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    stairs ever she goes like this thank
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    you where am I thank you and then he
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    goes and he
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    points and
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    then you see Tommy the interesting thing
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    with me about Trump I've done him a long
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    time I look at him ws and all good bad
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    ugly there's plenty of all of that with
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    Trump um but his supporters love him and
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    one of the reasons I think that he's so
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    popular with so many Americans is
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    because he makes some laugh uh and I
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    watched that speech the other day he was
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    very funny uh not always and some of it
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    as always with Trump some of the
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    hyperbolic rhetoric was a bit alarming
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    but actually he was an Entertainer
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    entertaining the that's why they like
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    him that's why they vote for
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    him they like him because he has
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    Charisma I like him because he has
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    Charisma I also like him because when
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    Donald Trump was my president the
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    economy is doing well we ended endless
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    Wars we started no new Wars there was
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    relatively peace around the world with
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    Donald Trump at the Helm of the United
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    States of America people didn't like
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    what he tweeted people didn't like the
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    way that he spoke maybe they didn't like
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    the way that he dressed or the way that
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    his hairstyle was or his fake tan but
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    none of that mattered because the United
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    States was doing well our border was
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    Secure the world was a better place with
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    Donald Trump at the helm and when
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    Democrats talk about Joe Biden and they
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    say oh you know he's slipping a little
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    bit my goodness we know that they are
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    obviously gaslighting us because we can
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    clearly see that Joe Biden is not just
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    slipping he was slipping in 2020 he has
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    slipped all the way now that we're in
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    2024 and it's not just little miss here
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    and there everybody has misspeaks they
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    mix people up for Joe Biden you have a
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    special counsel report that quite
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    plainly says we can't go after this man
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    for his classified documents because
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    he's a well-meaning elderly man with a
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    poor memory that says it all right there
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    maybe we can't indict him 96 times we
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    can't charge him with 96 things because
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    he simply is not cognitively there
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    enough to be able to withstand it that's
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    the leader of the United States that's
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    the best the Democrats can do for their
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    party I'm sorry you guys better be
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    shaking in your boots if that's what
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    you're going to go with in November I
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    mean Destiny you know I I know your view
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    of trump but it's hard to argue with all
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    of what Tommy just said isn't it I mean
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    the Democrats seem to me to be
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    sleepwalking in to a complete disaster
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    if they're not careful Biden does look
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    from here across the pond anyway like
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    someone who can barely string a sentence
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    together or stay on his own two feet How
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    would how would anyone vote for someone
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    given they have to do four years more
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    from November as president pres of
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    United States the toughest job in the
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    world I mean it depends on what you're
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    pushing for I mean if you want to elect
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    a comedian because he's got good
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    Charisma then I agree that Trump
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    definitely has better stage presence
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    than Biden does um I think if you're a
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    Democrat you want to support Biden you
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    just have to try to stick in the realm
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    of fact Republicans inhabit a totally
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    separate world right now I just heard
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    Tommy lawen say that we're doing better
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    on on the foreign policy front because
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    Trump was better for for being an
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    endless war as I mean he bombed Syria he
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    abandoned Kurdish allies he kicked the
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    can down the road in Afghanistan he hit
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    had Yemen drone strikes from us he was
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    still part of the Saudi lit coalition to
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    bomb Yemen uh he didn't do anything
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    about Russia's takeover of Crimea I mean
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    like the idea that Trump was better on
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    any of these areas of foreign policy is
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    ridiculous the idea he was better
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    Dom
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    completely by the way that was OB my
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    that was that's that's great Trump still
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    didn't do anything about it um even if
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    you think that Trump does have good
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    ideas for the country he is just failed
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    as a leader he's he's a failure of a
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    businessman he's a failure of a leader
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    he can't get people together to right
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    legislation uh Joe Biden and his
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    senility was somehow able to pass the
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    same infrastructure bill that Donald
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    Trump said for four years he was going
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    to get done he didn't Donald Trump
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    couldn't even repeal and replace
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    Obamacare which is what a lot of
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    Republicans literally voted him to do
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    like the idea that Trump is a competent
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    leader is anything more than just a
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    comedian or a guy that has funny
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    onliners on Twitter is delusional I mean
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    can blame him for many things but as
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    Tommy said you can't blame him for the
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    Takeover of Crimea because that was that
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    was years before Trump came into Power
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    no no I'm not blame him for the Takeover
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    of crime I'm saying that Trump has never
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    made a good but difficult foreign policy
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    decision if you look at the Doha
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    agreement that he made with the Ben he
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    kicked the can down the road he says
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    that he would be strong on Ukraine the
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    only thing he cared about for Ukraine
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    was trying to get information about
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    Hunter Biden what about what about what
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    Joe Biden did in Afghanistan which was
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    the most shameful and disgraceful
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    overnight fleeing of a country and
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    throwing millions of Afghan women back
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    to the Taliban walls now you can blame
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    Trump all you like for that but the
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    bottom line is it happened under Joe
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    Biden on his watch he was President it
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    was a catastrophic failure
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    that evacuation so many allies and
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    Friends of the Americans uh were left in
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    its wake many people died that day and
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    women in Afghanistan have gone back to
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    the medieval Dark Ages that's on Joe
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    Biden isn't
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    it no um if you read the special yeah if
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    you read the special Inspector General
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    report for Afghanistan the whole reason
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    why that pull out happened on that
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    timetable because because it was because
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    of the Doha agreements that Donald Trump
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    signed he drew our troop levels down to
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    Historic lows in Afghanistan for when
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    Biden came into office because Donald
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    Trump put America on a timetable to
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    leave that country if Biden wanted to he
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    could have come in and undone that but
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    then be clear though Destiny you're
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    blaming Donald Trump for a decision that
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    was taken eight months after he left
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    office that decision was taken under
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    Donald Trump the timetable was
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    established under Donald Trump have to S
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    to it Joe Biden's a big boy he's a
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    president of the United States I mean
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    Tommy it seems to me that the desperate
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    attempts is he a big boy Pierce is he a
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    big boy I'm not so sure he has use the
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    kitty stairs but I just have to jump in
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    here because I don't think anybody
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    wanted to stay in Afghanistan that
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    wasn't the point the time table that
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    Donald Trump negotiated there was
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    nothing wrong with the timetable Biden's
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    withdrawal from Afghanistan was
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    catastrophic he didn't have the support
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    that he needed he didn't have the
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    strategy that he needed it wasn't about
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    staying in Afghanistan in perpetuity
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    nobody wanted that I'm sure Democrats
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    didn't want to be in an endless war in
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    Afghanistan either it was the way that
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    Biden handled it and every since every
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    time since then he has failed when it
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    comes to foreign policy now we've got
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    Israel at War we've got Ukraine still
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    and heading into year what two and a
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    half of war that we are still funding
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    the world is a much more dangerous place
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    and that doesn't even bring me to my
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    Southern border where we have 10 million
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    illegal immigrants who have invaded on
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    Biden's watch I'm sure my friend is
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    going to tell me that that is Donald
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    Trump's fault as well even though he
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    oversaw the most secure border that we
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    believe in American history that we know
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    of so there is no disputing the record
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    you can say that Joe Biden was able to
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    sit there as a shadow president while
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    things got passed through Democrat
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    Chambers Chambers but you can't sit here
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    and tell me that the man is cognitively
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    well or that he's done anything on his
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    own on his own accord to better the
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    world of the United States well let me
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    ask Desy know this let me ask Destiny my
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    favorite question of all my liberal
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    friends uh which is do you know how many
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    illegal immigrants Barack Obama deported
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    in eight years how many illegal immigr
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    immigrants did did he Deport or did they
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    have like um cont he deported thrown out
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    thrown out of the country uh I don't
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    know the number of that have have a
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    guess for when you say Deport you mean
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    somebody that was already in the country
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    and they were caught by in the country
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    and removed my guess is those numbers
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    are always fairly low I probably less
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    than a million I have no idea I truly
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    have no idea three three million which
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    is the greatest number Prat of any
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    president in history and earned him the
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    monik in Mexico of deporter in Chief and
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    yet oddly whenever I talk to my liberal
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    friends they never know this they never
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    made a fuss at the time they were quite
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    comfortable about that happening and I
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    look at what's going on on the southern
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    border now apparently Biden's going down
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    the same day as Trump on Thursday which
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    would be fascinating but he hasn't been
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    there all I don't think he may have been
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    once before in his time as president
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    which is insane given how obviously
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    problematic the the the southern border
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    has become
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    what whichever side of the toal Divide
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    you're on would you accept
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    that would I accept that the border is a
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    problem well not only a massive problem
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    but that President Biden to date in his
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    tenure has done absolutely nothing but
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    make it
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    worse I don't know about absolutely
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    nothing but make it worse I think one of
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    the issues right now is Republicans are
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    holding up funding to actually uh a
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    portion more money to border security uh
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    I think that there are definitely border
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    problems that exist right now uh that
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    definitely need attention but I think
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    comparing it to Donald Trump when he was
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    able to utilize uh the emergency of
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    covid and the fact that the immigration
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    numbers were at historic lows over the
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    co period and then to say that well look
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    he did a way better job than Biden did
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    where once Co ends and then everything
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    starts to open up again you see a huge
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    surge of immigrants isn't the most fair
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    comparison but obviously yeah something
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    needs to be done with the border of
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    course and I hope that Republicans
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    approve funding in Congress for
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    something to actually be done well Tom
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    me that's an interesting point where I
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    would be critical I think of your
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    position on this because I absolutely
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    believe that Ukraine UK has got to be
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    helped to defeat Putin or at least hold
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    him off because the alternative for the
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    West it seems to me is extremely
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    dangerous and alarming which is that
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    Vladimir Putin seizes large chunks of a
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    sovereign Democratic country and is
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    allowed to keep it and the idea that
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    won't embolden him to just go and do the
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    same elsewhere I think is for the birds
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    I also think it's for the birds that
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    China looking at this won't then
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    immediately think about invading and
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    taking back
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    Taiwan well I would also say this if
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    Donald Trump were our president right
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    now Putin would have never done that
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    because he didn't When Donald Trump was
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    in office we mentioned earlier under
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    Obama they go in take Crimea under Biden
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    go in and try to take Ukraine so Donald
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    Trump uh will just say he started no new
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    Wars and the world was either respectful
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    of Donald Trump or fearful doesn't
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    matter which I would also say this we
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    don't on on my side when I talk about
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    not funding Ukraine anymore it's not
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    because we want Putin to take Ukraine
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    it's because we understand that here in
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    the United States of America we have
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    more problems that we have to attend to
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    we've got homeless veterans we've got a
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    border invasion of our own so the
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    thought of sending Doone I to UK I keep
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    hearing this but it's a I find it really
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    odd to hear any American
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    conservatives almost saying Putin should
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    be allowed to just take what he's taken
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    that would never have happened 20 years
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    ago in American political discourse
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    there's been a massive sea change in
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    conservative mentality to how to deal
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    with a Russian dictator um but but
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    secondly on on The Wider point about
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    Ukraine surely it comes down to this if
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    we applied the same mentality to Adolf
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    Hitler and World War II we'd all be
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    likely speaking German why are we so
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    weak about standing up to him in Ukraine
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    it's the same as when Hitler invaded
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    Poland appears it's not the same because
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    Ukraine is a corrupt country so we also
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    have to deal with that there are many
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    Americans that you'll talk to that
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    initially supported aiding and assisting
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    Ukraine and then as we sent more and
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    more money and as the Pentagon couldn't
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    account for a billion dollars in weapons
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    and as we're not really sure where the
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    accounting is going for this we have a
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    lot of concerns as we should because
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    we're sending our hard-earned tax
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    dollars to a corrupt why corrupt but
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    guess what's the number two Ukraine but
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    why can't you help Ukraine and fix the
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    southern border why does it have to be
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    one or the other America has the money
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    to do this it has the military Firepower
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    to help ukra and it also has the ability
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    if it really focuses to sort the
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    southern border out I don't understand
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    this argument America can't do two
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    things at once it's the number one
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    superpower in the world isn't it I mean
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    it would be nice if we could do two
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    things at once with a stroke of a pen
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    President Biden could help solve the
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    Border crisis he is not going to do that
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    it's not a matter of Ken you it's a
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    matter of are our Le leaders able to and
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    unfortunately they're not but when you
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    look at Ukraine which is a corrupt
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    country and we're sending our tax
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    dollars over there for now going on over
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    2 years it's problematic for a lot of
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    Americans a lot of Americans don't know
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    where our money is going we don't know
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    how it's being accounted for we don't
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    trust our government or Theirs to tell
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    us where it's going so that's where the
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    problem Lies We also believe if we
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    really want to squeeze Putin and we want
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    to squeeze Russia but appears I want to
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    say this we should be focusing also on
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    American Energy Independence because
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    when you have strong American Energy
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    Independence that's another way America
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    America broadly has America has broadly
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    more energy Independence than most
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    countries in the world so that's not a
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    big problem your Independence for energy
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    is very strong compared to most European
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    countries Destiny you've listening
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    patiently to this uh I want to play a
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    clip this is Trump talking about foreign
    00:15:48
    policy in his speech at the
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    weekend Victor Orban somebody I respect
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    greatly a lot of people respect him
    00:15:56
    tough guy smart guy he made the
    00:15:58
    statement recently he said uh you bring
    00:16:01
    back Trump it'll all stop they all
    00:16:04
    listen to Trump they respected Trump he
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    actually said it stronger than he said
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    they were afraid of trump I don't want
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    people to be afraid of me but he said
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    China was afraid Russia was afraid they
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    were all afraid of trump bring him back
    00:16:15
    and it'll all go
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    back what do you think Jess I mean there
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    is an argument to say that Trump's
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    irratic unpredictable Style on the
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    global stage did make people think twice
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    I mean not much of any serious gravity
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    happened on his watch he did not as
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    Tommy says he didn't launch a new war
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    anywhere um is there is there some Merit
    00:16:39
    to the madness if you like no uh people
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    seem to want to give Trump credit for
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    some things like people not starting
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    Wars or people not uh engaging in
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    certain types of I guess uh
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    International armed conflict decisions
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    but the reality is that if you analyze
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    any of the actual particular things that
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    he did when it came to foreign policy
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    most of them were the precursors for the
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    conflict that we are now blaming on
    00:17:01
    Biden for instance I brought up before
    00:17:03
    the round of Doha talks that happened
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    between the Taliban and the United
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    States the Afghanistan government wasn't
    00:17:07
    even included in those talks if you look
    00:17:09
    at what's happening right now in Israel
    00:17:11
    and Palestine the whole Abraham Accords
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    where Donald Trump was heralded as
    00:17:14
    having peace in the Middle East the
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    whole reason that was done uh in a way
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    uh was to avoid Israel annexing the west
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    bank and to undermine the Palestinians
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    there that wanted to negotiate with
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    Israel for peace the whole Abraham
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    Accords completely cut them out of the
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    conversation it's one of the reasons why
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    Hamas felt so slighted is one of the
    00:17:29
    reasons why Palestinians are engaging in
    00:17:31
    more violent activity against Israel is
    00:17:33
    because nobody's ever been negotiating
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    with them so there's like this very
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    superficial view that you can take you
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    can say oh Donald Trump was good for
    00:17:39
    foreign policy because no new wars
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    happened to start under this four-year
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    time period but if you look at what he
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    was actually setting up in any of the
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    countries where the conflict is going on
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    all he was doing was setting the stage
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    to Kick the Can down the road for future
    00:17:50
    conflict to which it has all right
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    Destiny what would you give Trump credit
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    for what I what domestically or
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    internationally anything give him some
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    credit for
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    something let's see if I had to give
    00:18:02
    Trump credit for anything I mean our
    00:18:04
    economy was strong under Trump I do
    00:18:05
    think sometimes that uh Democrats are
    00:18:08
    too heavy-handed when it comes to uh
    00:18:10
    things related to welfare or things
    00:18:11
    related to taxation I don't like the
    00:18:13
    idea of demonizing success I think that
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    Republicans typically do a better job or
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    did do a better job at things like
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    patriotism or championing wealth or uh
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    people that were making money so I guess
    00:18:22
    I would give Trump I guess General
    00:18:23
    credit for things like that I mean I Sav
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    money on my taxes and Tommy just to
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    return the favor can you think of
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    something good to say about Joe
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    Biden uh you know when I look at my
    00:18:36
    country right now there's not a whole
    00:18:38
    lot that I could say about Joe Biden um
    00:18:40
    I think he seems like a nice man he
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    seems like perhaps a good husband um
    00:18:46
    perhaps a good father supporting
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    obviously Hunter Biden so he seems like
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    he is I'll use the words of the special
    00:18:53
    counsel well-meaning elderly man with a
    00:18:55
    poor memory I don't think he's a bad
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    person I think that he's uniquely bad at
    00:18:59
    this job and I think it's time for
    00:19:02
    someone to come and make America great
    00:19:04
    again and that's I think Destiny wi one
    00:19:07
    of the most exploding economies in the
    00:19:09
    history of the United States and the
    00:19:10
    recovery from covid and all there's not
    00:19:12
    in all of the foreign policy guidance we
    00:19:14
    have related to Ukraine and Israel
    00:19:15
    there's not a single positive thing that
    00:19:17
    we can say about Biden's presidency
    00:19:18
    right now well no I here's what I would
    00:19:20
    say to you again it comes down to
    00:19:21
    perception Destiny which is you're not
    00:19:23
    wrong to say that the economy is in
    00:19:25
    pretty good shape in America comparative
    00:19:26
    to most other countries the problem is
    00:19:28
    people in America aren't giving Biden
    00:19:30
    the credit because his approval ratings
    00:19:32
    are in the tank because they basically
    00:19:34
    see a a guy who's senile and they don't
    00:19:38
    want that person to carry on being
    00:19:40
    president 2third of Democrats don't want
    00:19:43
    him to run again it's not even a
    00:19:45
    republican issue his own party don't
    00:19:47
    want him
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    to I definitely agree there's perception
    00:19:51
    issues but I mean Hey listen we're in
    00:19:52
    the media the goal is to fight the
    00:19:54
    perceptions because I think the
    00:19:55
    perceptions are crafted here and again I
    00:19:57
    just I question the auth authenticity of
    00:19:59
    people that are calling Biden's job
    00:20:01
    performance you know into question
    00:20:02
    because of his senility When Donald
    00:20:04
    Trump got almost no major legislation
    00:20:06
    passed when Donald Trump kicked the can
    00:20:08
    down the road on every single large
    00:20:09
    issue uh I also think that a lot of the
    00:20:11
    perceptions of Americans right now in
    00:20:12
    terms of voting for Biden and his
    00:20:14
    favorability is having to do with the
    00:20:16
    fact that apparently a lot of Americans
    00:20:17
    aren't even sure who's going to be on
    00:20:18
    the ballot I think a lot of Americans
    00:20:20
    still have questions about Biden running
    00:20:21
    because of his age a lot of Americans
    00:20:22
    still have questions about Trump running
    00:20:24
    because of the incoming indictments I
    00:20:25
    think it's the month start to creep
    00:20:27
    forward I think we might see sentiment
    00:20:28
    change especially if the special
    00:20:30
    election history over the past few years
    00:20:32
    in America has been any indication about
    00:20:33
    where American sentiments are feeling in
    00:20:35
    terms of supporting Democrats or
    00:20:36
    Republicans all I would say in response
    00:20:38
    to that is that if you look just at the
    00:20:40
    Iowa caucus he didn't even win that in
    00:20:44
    2016 but he won it this time by a
    00:20:46
    landslide that says to me the support
    00:20:49
    for Trump is increasing and remember he
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    got 10 Mill nearly 10 million more votes
    00:20:54
    in 2020 than he got in 2016 that was
    00:20:56
    after four years of if you listen to
    00:20:58
    Democrats after four years of the most
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    hellish presidency in history 10 million
    00:21:03
    more Americans went out and voted for
    00:21:04
    him um I just want to switch gears to to
    00:21:06
    Tommy I know youve got to go um quickly
    00:21:08
    about uh Prince Harry and what Donald
    00:21:11
    Trump said about him saying that this is
    00:21:13
    in relation to this court case where the
    00:21:16
    Biden Administration has been defending
    00:21:18
    Harry over an attempt to try and have
    00:21:20
    his Visa uh immigration papers made
    00:21:24
    public to see whether he admitted his
    00:21:27
    drug abuse that he revealed in his book
    00:21:29
    because that might disqualify him for
    00:21:31
    his right to stay in the country and the
    00:21:33
    and it seemed to me the Biden
    00:21:34
    Administration through the uh the
    00:21:37
    immigration people they put up went out
    00:21:39
    of their way to defend Harry saying that
    00:21:41
    he may not have even meant what he wrote
    00:21:43
    In the book it wasn't facts almost
    00:21:45
    basically say look he probably lied so
    00:21:47
    we can't take it seriously which is
    00:21:48
    pretty damning given it was his
    00:21:50
    autobiography but when Trump was asked
    00:21:52
    about this he said I wouldn't protect
    00:21:54
    him he betrayed the queen that's
    00:21:56
    unforgivable he would be on his own if
    00:22:00
    it was down to me I would say that's
    00:22:02
    quite ominous because if Trump was to
    00:22:03
    win the election and win back the White
    00:22:05
    House given the way Harry and Megan have
    00:22:08
    talked about Trump uh in a very
    00:22:10
    disparaging manner I could quite see
    00:22:13
    Trump being petty enough to put Harry on
    00:22:15
    the first boat out of out of China or
    00:22:17
    out of
    00:22:21
    America well I'll tell you this there
    00:22:23
    are a lot more people that need to be
    00:22:25
    deported that have come to our country
    00:22:27
    illegally a lot for Donald Trump to do
    00:22:29
    on day one to get our country back on
    00:22:31
    track but I will say this Donald Trump
    00:22:34
    is not somebody who coddles people he's
    00:22:36
    not somebody who is going to coddle
    00:22:39
    Prince Harry and Megan obviously they've
    00:22:41
    said bad things about him and and the
    00:22:43
    Biden Camp the Democrats like Harry and
    00:22:45
    Megan because they feel like maybe
    00:22:47
    they're some kind of liberal Superstars
    00:22:49
    but you know I think Donald Trump is
    00:22:51
    going to tell it like it is and he
    00:22:52
    doesn't care how much money you have and
    00:22:54
    he doesn't care how many books you've
    00:22:55
    written or what your status is Donald
    00:22:57
    Trump is is going to do what Donald
    00:22:58
    Trump's going to do and Law and Order is
    00:23:00
    going to make a comeback if that uh
    00:23:02
    unfortunately negatively impacts Prince
    00:23:04
    Harry I don't think I'll be crying
    00:23:05
    myself to sleep at night I don't think
    00:23:06
    you will either Pierce well we don't
    00:23:09
    want him back here this is the problem
    00:23:11
    uh this could be a nightmare for for the
    00:23:12
    Brits he's so unpopular here Tommy you
    00:23:15
    got to go thank you very much indeed for
    00:23:16
    joining us I appreciate it good luck
    00:23:18
    with your own show uh which you're going
    00:23:19
    to tape now and thank you for joining us
    00:23:22
    um Des you're going to stay with me
    00:23:23
    because I want to talk to you about uh
    00:23:25
    your response to last week debate on
    00:23:28
    uncensored between Professor Norman
    00:23:30
    finlin and Rabbi schooly I think it's
    00:23:33
    fair to say you weren't massively
    00:23:35
    complimentary let's take a
    00:23:37
    look oh my God is there any debate is
    00:23:40
    this actually a real debate or is who
    00:23:41
    the is this loser this is embarrassing
    00:23:44
    Rabbi schoy is he like a Twitter guy how
    00:23:46
    am I going to survive in a real
    00:23:47
    one-on-one debate this is just real
    00:23:48
    talking speed this is just stupid debate
    00:23:51
    G I can do an interview thank
    00:23:53
    you I can't believe he's giving push
    00:23:55
    back to Norm on this debate and he let
    00:23:57
    this guy yap on the most adoms
    00:24:00
    for like 20 minutes oh my God but he's
    00:24:02
    not going to answer it oh it's just like
    00:24:05
    it's a stupid argument on so many
    00:24:06
    different levels I don't equivocate
    00:24:08
    either with the other sound the uh
    00:24:10
    incorrect use of equivocate alarm oh oh
    00:24:12
    my God these are the types of posts I
    00:24:13
    Bann for my subreddit we get it oh my
    00:24:17
    God just on a technical point I think I
    00:24:19
    was using the word equivocate correctly
    00:24:21
    there and that's I'm wrong uh I'd have
    00:24:23
    to go back and analyze use of the word
    00:24:25
    equivocate let me be clear the uh stuff
    00:24:27
    we do on stream is obviously way more
    00:24:29
    relaxed than this environment but the uh
    00:24:31
    the main criticism yeah the main
    00:24:32
    criticism that I basically have with all
    00:24:34
    with almost all of the Israel Palestine
    00:24:35
    debates is both sides have this hyper
    00:24:38
    specific narrative that tends to Omit
    00:24:40
    every single exculpatory thing from the
    00:24:41
    other side and it drives me crazy so
    00:24:44
    whether it's a rabbi on here that's
    00:24:45
    talking about like the Innocence of
    00:24:47
    Israel or even the guy you had on right
    00:24:48
    before saying like well Israel doesn't
    00:24:49
    like to fight we don't like to do that
    00:24:51
    it's like really because Israel has
    00:24:52
    taken advantage of every single military
    00:24:53
    opportunity they've had in the history
    00:24:54
    to expand their territory to saying they
    00:24:56
    don't want to fight is really silly but
    00:24:57
    then on the other hand you get Pro
    00:24:58
    Palestinian people who would say things
    00:25:00
    like well Hamas can be a partner for
    00:25:01
    peace and October 7th was just in
    00:25:03
    response to the horrible concentration
    00:25:05
    camp like conditions of a region of the
    00:25:07
    world that really isn't even doing that
    00:25:09
    bad compared to other places in the
    00:25:11
    region so I just hate how hyperbolized
    00:25:13
    both sides of the argument are address I
    00:25:15
    actually don't disagree with you and I
    00:25:16
    thought Rabbi schmo's ad hominum attacks
    00:25:18
    on the professor were completely over
    00:25:20
    the top uh but actually quite
    00:25:22
    Illuminating about him and his start of
    00:25:25
    debating I don't think he play well with
    00:25:26
    the audience at all and I had a lot of
    00:25:29
    Israelis uh tweeting me saying why do
    00:25:31
    you keep having this guy on he's so he
    00:25:33
    talks in such an inflammatory manner
    00:25:35
    that it doesn't make us look good so I
    00:25:37
    think that he let himself down a bit
    00:25:38
    there um and on The Wider point I kind
    00:25:40
    of agree I've had so many of these
    00:25:41
    debates about Israel it's very hard to
    00:25:44
    do anything that doesn't immediately get
    00:25:47
    dragged to the extremities in terms of
    00:25:49
    the debate uh very hard to reach any
    00:25:52
    point of consensus you know and I find
    00:25:55
    that that's the dispiriting thing about
    00:25:57
    that debate and it may explain why the
    00:25:59
    whole conflict in the Middle East
    00:26:01
    between Israel and Palestine has beg
    00:26:03
    gone 75 years and appears so completely
    00:26:05
    intractable nobody gives an
    00:26:09
    inch yeah I mean I think there there's
    00:26:12
    on the ground in Israel Palestine you
    00:26:14
    have that issue where both sides have
    00:26:16
    their basically their myths that Israel
    00:26:19
    fashion themselves as these poor people
    00:26:20
    these poor Jews that wandered into the
    00:26:22
    Middle East and had to fight these
    00:26:23
    impossibly huge Arab armies that had
    00:26:25
    domineering and overwhelming forces
    00:26:27
    power and coordination when in reality
    00:26:30
    uh post 48 Israel was always in a decent
    00:26:33
    position to fight and that was pretty
    00:26:34
    obvious in their performance in 48 uh in
    00:26:37
    ' 67 in 73 it was pretty obvious that
    00:26:39
    they had the military capability to
    00:26:41
    survive but then on the other hand you
    00:26:42
    get you know the Palestinian Narrative
    00:26:44
    of they were a poor dispossessed people
    00:26:45
    in their lands who only ever wanted
    00:26:47
    peace I think I saw a tweet saying we
    00:26:48
    welcomed Israelis with open arms that's
    00:26:51
    absolutely not true uh I think that the
    00:26:53
    on the ground narratives contribute to
    00:26:55
    the conflict feeling intractable but
    00:26:56
    unfortunately I think inter nationally I
    00:26:58
    think we feed into the intractability as
    00:26:59
    well because people are that that
    00:27:02
    conflict is so perfect for everybody to
    00:27:03
    have a really strong opinion you've got
    00:27:05
    brown people and white people you've got
    00:27:07
    Jews and Muslims you've got oppressed
    00:27:09
    and oppressors you've got Western
    00:27:11
    Colonial and Middle Eastern country like
    00:27:13
    everybody can have an opinion about this
    00:27:15
    conflict because of the different parties involved and people are so not
    00:27:18
    level-headed when it comes to evaluating
    00:27:19
    what's going on that they end up hyping
    00:27:21
    up both sides and they elevate the
    00:27:23
    expectations to unrealistic levels which
    00:27:24
    means neither side is really willing to
    00:27:26
    actually settle for a realist
    00:27:28
    resolution that might make both sides
    00:27:29
    feel a little bit good and a little bit
    00:27:30
    unhappy what do you think a realistic
    00:27:32
    resolution looks
    00:27:35
    like H it I think it's a it's a
    00:27:38
    multifaceted thing but I would say that
    00:27:40
    it has to be some kind of two-state
    00:27:42
    solution and both sides need to be
    00:27:44
    willing to negotiate for peace and this
    00:27:46
    is the hard one both sides probably need
    00:27:48
    to be willing to sacrifice a little bit
    00:27:50
    for peace that means that not every
    00:27:52
    Palestinian is going to be happy with
    00:27:53
    the final resolution it means that a
    00:27:55
    boss might have to suffer you know even
    00:27:57
    more loss of his popularity or whatever
    00:27:58
    Palestinian leader Rises might have to
    00:28:00
    suffer more loss of popularity it might
    00:28:01
    mean on the Israeli side uh you know
    00:28:04
    similar to uh toan or rine you know
    00:28:07
    negotiators for peace in the past you
    00:28:08
    might have to pay a political price for
    00:28:09
    being a negotiator for peace because
    00:28:11
    sometimes the Israeli people or your
    00:28:13
    canessa doesn't always support you when
    00:28:14
    you're negotiating peace against either
    00:28:16
    Arab states or Palestinians but you need
    00:28:18
    the leadership has to be there that has
    00:28:20
    to be willing to suffer a setback or
    00:28:22
    some loss initially for the peace
    00:28:23
    agreement and then both people need to
    00:28:25
    have some kind of tolerance to say Hey
    00:28:27
    listen we might not get everything we
    00:28:28
    want on the old city that applies to
    00:28:30
    Jews and Muslims or that applies to
    00:28:32
    Israelis and Palestinians or hey we
    00:28:33
    might have to do a lot of land swaps in
    00:28:35
    the West Bank hey all of these uh
    00:28:37
    settlements that are outside of directly
    00:28:38
    near the green line maybe these do need
    00:28:40
    to be torn down uh it's but yeah that
    00:28:43
    the conversation we not even a place we
    00:28:44
    could start the conversation on that yet
    00:28:45
    because people don't even know if hamash
    00:28:47
    should exist or not or if Israel has a
    00:28:48
    right to defend itself or if maybe
    00:28:50
    murdering 12200 civilians is a
    00:28:52
    reasonable response to the supposed
    00:28:53
    concentration camp conditions that exist
    00:28:55
    in Gaza yeah I mean you did a debate
    00:28:57
    with uh Jak yugu who's been on this show
    00:29:00
    many times in you said about deaths and
    00:29:02
    Gaza the ratio of Hamas to civilians
    00:29:05
    kill were good ratios but I'm not I'm
    00:29:08
    not sure about that I'll tell you why
    00:29:10
    the problem I have with the whole death
    00:29:12
    rate in in Gaza especially when there's
    00:29:15
    a comparison made to World War II and
    00:29:17
    how many uh German civilians were killed
    00:29:19
    and so on is that there is a unique
    00:29:21
    population in Gaza of 50% children now
    00:29:25
    50% of of the 2 million under 18 that's
    00:29:28
    a million kids running around in Gaza
    00:29:32
    and already we've seen 30,000 civilians
    00:29:35
    killed with 70,000 more wounded many
    00:29:38
    many of whom are children and that that
    00:29:41
    is something I've not seen in any recent
    00:29:44
    conflict and that's what makes it
    00:29:46
    uniquely horrific to
    00:29:49
    people I agree that it makes it uniquely
    00:29:51
    horrific to people I think it's really
    00:29:52
    important to have a good understanding
    00:29:54
    of why uh International humanitarian law
    00:29:56
    or more specifically international law
    00:29:58
    of armed conflict exists I think that
    00:30:00
    people have a really poor understanding
    00:30:02
    that the law of armed conflict exists to
    00:30:04
    make it so that the fight is even on
    00:30:05
    both sides but that's not true it exists
    00:30:07
    for two very important reasons one is to
    00:30:09
    protect civilians and the second is to
    00:30:11
    ensure that Nations have a right to
    00:30:12
    defend themselves if either one of these
    00:30:14
    fail nobody would care about the law of
    00:30:16
    armed conflict I think the difficulty
    00:30:19
    that Israel has right now in conducting
    00:30:20
    their war against Hamas is that their
    00:30:23
    cause for war wanting to do something
    00:30:25
    about Hamas I think is undeniable
    00:30:28
    righteous that if you've got a
    00:30:30
    organization that comes in they kill uh
    00:30:32
    you know some 1100 1200 citizens and
    00:30:34
    then they you know capture hostage 200
    00:30:36
    more U not only has Hamas not had a good
    00:30:38
    cause for war not only have they
    00:30:40
    committed multiple war crimes and the
    00:30:42
    actual Commission of the October 7th
    00:30:43
    attack it gives Israel a justification
    00:30:45
    to attack now Israel's conduct in war is
    00:30:47
    a second question it's a very difficult
    00:30:49
    question to answer when people try to
    00:30:50
    evaluate if the conduct is good or bad
    00:30:52
    they often times just look at the number
    00:30:53
    of Civilian deaths but when you're
    00:30:55
    actually evaluating from a legal
    00:30:57
    perspective on whether or not attacks
    00:30:58
    are good or not the obligation for the
    00:31:00
    belligerent for the attacking party is
    00:31:02
    just to try to do what they can to
    00:31:03
    reduce civilian casualties now civilian
    00:31:06
    casualties are tragic they absolutely
    00:31:08
    are but Hamas also has a responsibility
    00:31:10
    as the sole administrator in the region
    00:31:12
    to Shield their population not use them
    00:31:13
    as human Shields to make sure their
    00:31:15
    population is allowed to flee not tell
    00:31:16
    them to stay in their homes when Israel
    00:31:18
    roof knocks when they make phone calls
    00:31:19
    when they drop leaflets uh when they
    00:31:21
    give advanced notice when they give
    00:31:23
    whole region wide uh text messages right
    00:31:25
    Israel is doing what they can more than
    00:31:27
    other country has in any type of armed
    00:31:29
    conflict to try to warn the civilian
    00:31:30
    population to flee but for a variety of
    00:31:32
    reasons they're not doing it some due to
    00:31:33
    Hamas some maybe due to their fears of
    00:31:35
    getting attacked anyway because
    00:31:36
    obviously there have been tons of places
    00:31:38
    that have come under attack even places
    00:31:39
    in the South but I just think it's
    00:31:40
    important to note that when we're
    00:31:41
    criticizing Israel it can't be on the
    00:31:43
    absolute number of deaths uh it has to
    00:31:45
    be on things like when the three
    00:31:46
    hostages came out and they were shot by
    00:31:47
    the IDF those are things we like well
    00:31:49
    hold on these guys were wearing white
    00:31:50
    flags why are you shooting at these
    00:31:51
    people that's not good it can't just be
    00:31:53
    on the absolute number of casualties
    00:31:54
    because if that's the fixation then in
    00:31:56
    the future no nation is going to
    00:31:58
    consider any laws of armed conflict when
    00:31:59
    going to war they going to say oh well
    00:32:01
    they don't care what the ratios are they
    00:32:02
    don't care our targeting decisions
    00:32:04
    they're just upset that civilians are
    00:32:05
    dying which unfortunately and tragically
    00:32:06
    always happens in the course of War if
    00:32:08
    you were the parent of one of the 12,000
    00:32:11
    or so children who've been killed by
    00:32:14
    Israeli air strikes would you willingly
    00:32:19
    and quickly buy into a Brave New World
    00:32:21
    of living peacefully side by side with
    00:32:24
    Israel or would you be impl determined
    00:32:28
    to exact revenge for the slaughter of
    00:32:30
    your
    00:32:31
    child feel like on a personal level uh
    00:32:33
    especially somebody that has a child I
    00:32:35
    feel like I would want to fight till the
    00:32:36
    end of the until the end of time that's
    00:32:38
    my point so so that that is the natural
    00:32:41
    human reaction which surely tens of
    00:32:45
    thousands of
    00:32:46
    Palestinian fathers mothers brothers
    00:32:49
    sisters grandparents they're going to
    00:32:51
    have to this Slaughter of the children
    00:32:54
    and so I don't understand why Israel
    00:32:56
    thinks it's not just building for itself
    00:32:58
    a potentially even bigger problem down
    00:33:01
    the line in terms of the radicalization
    00:33:04
    through deaths of children of the people
    00:33:07
    who love those
    00:33:08
    kids I understand what you're saying but
    00:33:11
    after World War II I mean we all got
    00:33:13
    along after that in a surprisingly short
    00:33:15
    amount of time given how horrific some
    00:33:17
    of the Japanese crimes were in China
    00:33:19
    given how given how horrific Germany's
    00:33:21
    crimes were around all of Europe or
    00:33:23
    relating to concentration camps or death
    00:33:24
    camps like it is possible to mend those
    00:33:26
    brid I do agree right now that Israel
    00:33:28
    might be contributing towards more
    00:33:30
    hatred of them of Jewish people of
    00:33:32
    Israeli citizens in the Gaza Strip
    00:33:33
    that's undeniable but then the question
    00:33:35
    becomes well who's responsible for
    00:33:37
    managing Israeli uh public relations in
    00:33:40
    the Gaza Strip if you ask an Israeli
    00:33:42
    citizen like hey aren't you worried that
    00:33:44
    you're going to radicalize people in the
    00:33:45
    gaza's trip what Israeli citizens are
    00:33:46
    thinking of is they're either thinking
    00:33:48
    of uh watching the video of that girl go
    00:33:51
    back on the back of the truck where
    00:33:52
    everybody's like clapping and cheering
    00:33:53
    and they're thinking well they hate us
    00:33:54
    anyway or they're thinking of the second
    00:33:56
    into with our four or five years worth
    00:33:58
    of attacks from 200 to 20045 and Israel
    00:34:01
    think well they already hate us anyway
    00:34:02
    in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip
    00:34:03
    they're thinking of the Martyr fund
    00:34:05
    they're thinking there are so many
    00:34:06
    different aspects of this conflict that
    00:34:08
    I agree Israel is giving Palestinians
    00:34:10
    good cause to hate them the Palestinians
    00:34:11
    have given Israelis good cause to hate
    00:34:12
    and not trust them either and this is
    00:34:14
    one of the problems that we talked about
    00:34:15
    the very beginning the Mythos run so
    00:34:17
    deep on both sides that they're both
    00:34:18
    infinitely Justified morally if they
    00:34:20
    want to hate each other forever but
    00:34:21
    obviously that's not a conductive Road
    00:34:23
    forward towards anything peaceful J I
    00:34:25
    know you got a big uh debate coming up
    00:34:27
    yourself with Professor Norman finlin
    00:34:29
    hosted by Lex Freeman that is going to
    00:34:30
    be huge you feeling ready for
    00:34:33
    that uh the three people involved are
    00:34:36
    all Giants in this field I am definitely
    00:34:40
    a newcomer I'm definitely like a
    00:34:41
    YouTuber streamer person uh I hope that
    00:34:43
    rhetorically I'm able to hang on to the
    00:34:45
    conversation obviously I've done a
    00:34:46
    decent amount of research and reading
    00:34:48
    but obviously the three of these figures
    00:34:49
    involved uh yeah have have a much
    00:34:51
    greater background than me in this issue
    00:34:53
    so I'm not going in with any illusion
    00:34:54
    that I'm I'm the subject matter expert
    00:34:56
    here my debate partner for this is Benny
    00:34:57
    Morris and this guy knows more about
    00:35:00
    anything related to you know 48 history
    00:35:02
    and everything so I'm probably going to be leaning on his historical knowledge
    00:35:04
    quite a bit rest assured I will be live
    00:35:07
    commentating uh to return the
    00:35:09
    favor I look forward to the uh to the
    00:35:12
    back and forth videos and the reaction
    00:35:14
    videos Destiny great try to use
    00:35:16
    equivocate incorrectly so yeah yeah
    00:35:18
    thanks for having me nice to see you
    00:35:19
    take
    00:35:25
    care

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