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oh my gosh what is this thing it's my

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mini split folks what we're going to

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take a look at today is my friend Carrie

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here just installed a mini split air

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conditioner onto her van and we're going

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to learn a little bit about that and how

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you guys might want to consider getting

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something like this because it is

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amazing so Carrie thank you so much

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looking forward to it we're starting our

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timer we just turned on the air

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conditioning unit it is 86 almost 87° is

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inside indoor sensor while the control

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is our outdoor sensor right by my

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sliding door where it's 84 in the sun I

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just turned on the unit it's set for 22°

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C and we're going to leave it alone my

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solar is currently off and I have about

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300 amp hours of lithium batteries

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available to it so I can already feel

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the coolness coming back towards me how

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how long does it usually take for you to

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cool it down in here I mean it can be a

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matter of minutes depending on where in

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the van I'm at how cold I'm trying to

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make it um for instance if I was just to

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lay here wanting to take a nap with a

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cool breeze I just turn it on and forget

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about it if I want to leave it for a

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little bit um it can take half an hour

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to bring it down

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10° um but I haven't done that's why

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we're doing some of these experiments to

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find out just how long it actually takes

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yeah that makes sense I mean it was

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stuffy in here up until about 30 seconds

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ago and it it like as soon as you turn

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that on it already feels so much nicer

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in here so K what what is the number one

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reason that you wanted an air

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conditioner um I've got two dog or I had

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two dogs when I first got on the road um

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now I have one little doubled coat mini

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Ai and she's the light of my life and I

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want to make sure that she's comfortable

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uh and safe when I go on Hikes or when I

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go into the grocery store second to that

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I work in my van full-time I often have

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a lot of meetings and in my first couple

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years on the road I can't tell you how

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many times I parked found a wonderful

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spot I'm in four hours of meetings 4

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hours later it's 90 degrees in my van

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and I haven't had a minute to move to

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something shadier I have been on the

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road off and on for six years I've been

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in my van for four all right and uh this

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is not your first foray into air

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conditioner so what are the other

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options that you you had and tell me

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maybe some good and bad points about

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them so I have tried four other air

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conditioners they fall into two major

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categories one was a window air

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conditioning unit which a friend of mine

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helped me contrive a frame it was

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hanging out of my passenger window it

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was not a permanent install so you could

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see that as a pro or a con but I

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certainly couldn't drive anywhere with

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that even Rec even reposition my van a

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couple feet because it would fall out

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and it did fall out several times the

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second type that I used and I had

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different versions of it uh were

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portable units those are the big ones

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that you can buy at Home Depot that are

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usually a couple hundred bucks I try to

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a 12vt 4000 BTU one that one was

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woefully underpowered um I tried a 7,000

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BTU from Home Depot again it didn't even

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put a dent it wouldn't even maintain the

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temperature under similar situation

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eventually what I got was a 13,000

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BTU uh unit which while it was able to

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cool my van they're all wildly

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inefficient you take two big tubes one

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is an input one is an output and so you

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have this really hot air that comes out

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of the portable unit that needs to be

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vented

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outside and one problem with both of

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those Solutions was that it

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required the cooling unit to be at the

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front in the cab which is actually

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fundamentally also the greatest source

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of heat whereas I spend most of my time

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back here and I actually have some

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thermal curtains that I can block off

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but I wasn't able to do that and so it's

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just a inefficiency in the design of of

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the system because it's both fighting

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against the hottest air that's coming in

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and trying to heat that area as opposed

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to compartmentalizing the van which this

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solution allows me to do and to cool the

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area um that I need to live in while

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also sectioning off the uh hottest part

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of my van this is on my door compared to

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the other ones which were temporary

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installations and took you know at least

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I don't know two or three square feet in

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my van when I really only have about 20

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or 30 square ft to live in and they were

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all bulky and you had to deal with the

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storage so some people might think it's

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a pro to have a Mobile Installation or

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something that can be removed I found it

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was actually a big con because it

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required me to like find space for it so

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you've been very happy with this latest

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edition this latest generation oh yes I

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have a what's known as backpack mini

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split this is an Alibaba special in

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other words I got it off of a second a

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reseller on eBay um you can find

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versions of this on Amazon but I bought

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it directly from eBay on the

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recommendation of a friend and that

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friend has a 70 lb Malamute 200 amps of

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lithium battery um and I think about 300

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watts of solar and I saw it when we were

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down in Baja and we had a couple 90°

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days the brand that he had was something

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called a tree Lego his was a

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24v uh mine is the 12vt version and it's

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a 12v uh compressor that's attached to

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the back of my van I'll show you a

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little bit later but it's all installed

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in one on one door I still have access

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to the door I can open it it's right by

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my head so it cools me um exactly where

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I sleep yeah and it really doesn't take

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up much room it doesn't stick out very

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far no how much did you end up paying

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for this unit it all told so I spent

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more than other people need to and in

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part I was so excited to get it I didn't

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do a lot of comparison shopping um

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because I got it through a reseller you

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can get them as cheap as for or $500 on

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eBay I've seen them the exact same unit

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uh for as expensive as $2,000 on Amazon

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depending on which uh reseller you get

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it from um I would say plan to spend

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around probably

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$700 uh for someone that actually has

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more than a couple review on eBay after

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you do the install there's an extra

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piece that they have to do uh with a

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specialized piece of equipment I just

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went to an AC an auto AC specialist it

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was $100 maybe 45 minutes to drop the

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van off they vacuumed it um added all

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the free on made sure all the

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connections were sound uh and I was on

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my way the thing that really sold me on

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this was that my friend had a somewhat

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minimal uh lithium based system and

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could keep his dog really

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happy and so what would you say would be

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the bare minimum that someone would need

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for a system like this regarding solar

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in lithium well if you want to run it

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all day certainly the 200 amp hours I

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think is a minimum I would say at least

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300 watts of solar on the roof as well

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that's not a huge system that you need

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and you just have to make decisions of

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what you need to use and in what time

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and just to cool it off would would

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really help out just a take down that

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heat right um I mean we're down it's 80

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degrees

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uh I'm down 20 amp hours in total and

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it's that with my inverter and my the

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rest of my setup is pulling about 650

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Watts right now which is about what that

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window unit pulled so it's been running

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for about 25 minutes and it's 80° in

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here uh and actually it's increased in

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temp outside it's 88° on that

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thermometer outside so it's still it's

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still fighting against that increase in

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temp the other thing we're doing here is

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all my windows uncovered like I wanted

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this to be kind of a realistic

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simulation for if you just wanted to run

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into the run into the uh grocery store

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or something like that if I were to

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actually close off my cab cover that

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window right there which is right in the

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sun um it would probably cool down even

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faster okay so one of the downsides to

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having something that is

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thermostatically controlled at its

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source is that it's actually you can

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probably you might be able to hear it a

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little bit in the background but the

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compressor is cycling off and on because

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it because over my bed it's actually

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reached the 72° that it wants right and

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so it's just cycling on as needed to

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maintain the temperature however over

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here it's 80° what I would normally do

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is turn a fan on um because this pulls

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about two or three Watts uh and it runs

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on battery this was another cheap RV

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living recommendation from a couple of

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years ago um and this

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actually makes it a huge difference to

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cool off that side of the van and

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distribute the distribute the cool air

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so we just turned the unit off it was

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running for 30 minutes and it pulled a

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total of 22 amp hours with no solar

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turned on it ended up being about 80° in

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there at the end um had I ramped up the

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fan the whole thing would have been 72

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Dees really comfortably the mini split

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unit itself really just consists of an

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air conditioner

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compressor and uh some cooling there's a

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fan in there and a couple other

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components um and the reason it's called

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a mini split is because the um

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compressor is outside and it is split

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from the blower or the head unit which

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is mounted on the inside of my door okay

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and so you still have refrigerant lines

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that are normally internal on other

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units but one there's a couple lines

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here for positive and negative electric

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and then we have a high pressure and a

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low pressure um refrigerant line and we

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also have um an electrical uh

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communication basically for the

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controller inside to send electrical

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signals to the unit out here my friend

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and I spent a couple of days uh on the

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install um frankly the thing that took

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the most time was going back and forth

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from the hardware store trying to figure

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out what bolt sizes we wanted to use

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always um I'm one of those people that

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likes to you know measure once and try

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to fit it three times and it usually

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works by the fourth the outdoor unit

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itself is actually mounted on a piece of

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plywood it's just simple three ply that

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I got at the local hardware store that I

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mounted directly through the sheet metal

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um I put the holes in I sealed the holes

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with some Rustoleum paint just to make

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sure that um we don't get any um rust on

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the rough edges where we put them in I

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also once we mounted it I sealed the

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inside with silicone again just to make

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sure that we don't have any um any

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moisture intruding go ahead and open it

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so you guys are in luck you get to see

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all of the all of the install oh wow

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yeah so these are the refrigerant lines

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I bought a one-size fits all with

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flexible lines if you um have a little

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bit more planning involved in your

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install you can actually measure the

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distance of how you know you're going to

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put it together and some of the

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manufacturers will probably cut the

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lines and adjust the fittings for you in

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this case this is just a kit that had 10

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ft of flexible line um for your benefit

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you get to see the install but you could

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imagine it wouldn't be that hard to

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actually recess some of this stuff

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inside the door and have a neat panel in

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front of it so um this is the inside

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gasket we have um the high pressure and

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low pressure refrigerant lines right

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here we have that communication line

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that goes to the head unit right here

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the power is supplied by these really

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big um 4 a uh cables that go right to my

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bus bar the positive one is has a

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resetable circuit breaker that I added

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um just because it never hurts to over

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fuse this is actually the line that goes

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to the head unit and this is where the

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signals from the thermostat up there

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travel out outside and control you know

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turning off and on and how much the fan

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needs to throttle on other things that's

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always a little bit of a complication

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with any of these units is that they uh

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produce condensation right and so this

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one in particular has two ports that the

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water can come out so when I installed

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it I installed it at a slight angle and

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what's cool about installing it on my

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back door is that these

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you don't really want water in them but

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they have wheat holes built in and so we

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have the condensation line come down and

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actually Feeds out to one of my weep

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holes right there it's one less hole I

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need to put in my door basically thing

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about the install was one trying to

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figure out how to um fit it on the back

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we thought it would just be easier to

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put a board on it because then we got to

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choose where we put the different the

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different bolts in okay um and so that

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actually made the install quite a bit

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easier because we had a lot more

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flexibility in how we wanted to position

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it one of the funny things about

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this is that I wanted obviously to be

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legal I wanted my license plate to be

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visible but I also didn't want to lose

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my beautiful view on my back window all

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right and so it actually fits really

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neatly uh on that side I still have full

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access to my entire garage um I get in

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here on a regular basis um and it's all

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contained in one neat install and at

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some point I'll probably clean this up

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but for now it's been fine so car I

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thought that the experiment went really

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well what did you think of it I think it

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performed uh just as well as I expected

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um I kind of wish that I had turned it

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up on high when we walked away from it

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for half an hour because I think that we

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would have been able to demonstrate that

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it cools the entire rig down to 72 Dees

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like it get oftentimes when I'm I've got

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it on all day I'll actually need to put

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on like a jacket or something or turn it

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up a little bit because as you said it

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actually gets pretty chilly it does once

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you get Once you turn it up and have

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fans help project that air across the

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length of the van that is an interesting

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point you have to keep that in mind that

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any thermostatically controlled thing I

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have the same issue with my furnace

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which is at the front of my van that

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often times what you set the thermostat

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to is not necessarily going to be

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equivalent on both ends of the van and

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so having those portable fans or other

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ways to move the air across the van

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regardless of what air conditioning unit

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you have is really important so Carrie

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thank you so much for giving us a full

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explanation of this unit and also going

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through the science with us with us for

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that unit um so we really appreciate

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your time and just taking a look at this

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thing you're welcome Brian I mean it's

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been a real game changer for me it's

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been a long challenging effort for me to

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try to figure out the right cooling unit

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and so I'm really happy to share the

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solution that I found after spending

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lots of time and

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effort uh excluding other options now

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folks out there what did you think of

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this unit is this something that you

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guys could incorporate into your Vans

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into your vehicles do you think this

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would work for you or better yet do you

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have experience with a unit such as this

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and have your own review or ideas about

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it please let us know in the comments

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below if you got anything out of today's

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to the channel and until next time we'll

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see you all down the road bye guys what

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I would normally do is I would

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